Lmao I literally got kissed by a man whom I wasn’t dating annd he made me super uncomfortable and i never signaled crap i did feel violated and guess what i did absolutely nothing the amount of times men feel the need to touch me or get comfy is insane and I can’t even do anything about it cause i know no one will believe me and i have to go through an unwanted cycle anyway i do not wanna go on stand and explain how i got violated and have to explain i am no slut. It’s embarrassing and a kiss is one of the few weak violations i am so used to it the kiss was almost ignored as i have had men literally in grocery stores put their penis on my behind when i was a whole kid how do i live knowing all that but ur biggest concern is “trusting women” well we don’t trust you either.
Absolutely. During my corporate career I used to regularly mentor, interview, and help young women. Now I realize how foolish I was. I would never work closely with a you woman in a job I care about at all.
The me too movement includes male victims of sexual assault too? But nah, you men always gotta find some bs to complain about. When y’all are the ones perpetrating majority of the rapes? Against men and women
I never said you raped someone, I just said men are the perpetrators rape more statistically? A lot male voices have been uplifted because of the me too movement, you just don’t want to consume information that you don’t agree with.
I have had adult women touch me on the arm like that and it was never a problem. My little sister back in the day had some older dude try and take her to dinner and my parents just told her to avoid people like that.
I am always very hesitant to put somebody through America's life-destroying criminal justice system.
@Juxtapose he touched her on the arm and waist. The difference is that the girl didn’t know him at all and she was walking home from school. Many predators will abduct girls from school, they had valid reasons to be scared that you seem to be blatantly ignoring.
Lastly, you want to ask them yourself to make your decision 😀 dude? Imagine how fucked the justice system would be if we just asked murderers if they murdered their victims instead of making our decisions based on the information we have to work with.
There’s nothing in the article you sent that talks about the girl sexually harassing anyone?
You just compared a man touching a woman on the arm and waist to murder & kidnapping.. what kind of paranoid, delusional world do you live in?
I have had women touch me various times will making passes at me, even back when I was still pretty prudish as a teen. I just blushed and smiled.. no way did I ever think to ruin these girl's lives just because they touched me without permission in a way that did not hurt me at all.
I'm bi and have slapped another man on the ass before, same with a female friend. Do I deserve to have my life put through the life-destroying criminal justice system?
I have also had adult women playfully flirt with me and nothing bad ever happened. If anything it was a memorable and happy time of my youth. (yes I have a girlfriend now)
You do know people in other cultures will actually kiss each other on the cheek to greet each other right?
Our culture is going to be touch starved if people view simple touches as assault.
@Hallo626262 Not quite 100% but certainly the majority of the time. The only women that seem to get caught are female teachers that molest and fuck their underage students.
@Hallo6262626 I don’t know how accurate your statistics are but most female rapist get away with it because most male rape survivors never report. Because in society its seen as “impossible” for a man to get raped by a woman even though it does happen. That’s why most don’t report and the rapist gets away with it, I think it’s sad that happens. I never said that kind of stuff was ok.
@Juxtapose yes I do know, people do that in my culture? But not with random ass strangers. Plus that’s literally just an excuse, you and I both know it’s not custom in America for people to great each other by kissing.
My point is if a stranger touches you, especially if a stranger touches your child. You can press charges.
Not even teachers are allowed to put their hands on students in that way, so why the hell would a random stranger be allowed to do the same thing?
That guy was a predatory creep. It honestly baffles me that you don’t understand that?
And I find it funny how you blatantly want to disregard the fact that he was a stranger? Do you go up to strangers and grab them by the waist. Let me know, cause you’re making zero sense right now.
Where did you get that information from? And regardless, that doesn’t make what happened any less bad. Those are two separate situations. Obviously she shouldn’t be molesting underage boys
I still like women since I can't help it (I wish I was aromantic or something) however women are actually a bunch if snakes know the grass. Not all are bad but some girls are ruining it for others. Take the Johnny Depp incident for instance.
Don't trust people. Trust yourself. A girl if she likes you then there's no problem, be with everyone but never cross the line. If you with about the slightest thing then simply don't take the first steps, let her take the first steps. You're young, let the time guide you.
Not really. I stopped dating before Me Too was a thing and I'm much happier without dating or a relationship in my life. Also I have always been a mentally and emotionally guarded person. Does not matter if you are a man or woman getting close to me on any level is a lot like crossing a WW I trench battle field and storming Normandy right after. Me Too isn't a concern of mine.
i can't b arsed to explain to people like u anymore, who have obviously inhaled too much of the popular red pill media. unless u're open to it, i'll just soak up all of the cringe XD
You are from the UK? HA! You poor girl, now I know. UK girls are easy meat even for girls like you to get picked up by Azn's in taxi's. Not sure how you people allowed your country to bend over so much to allow grooming gangs to rape so many British girls. UK... I feel sorry for the people there, so lost.
bro u have such a negative outlook on life, u seem like u'd be a funny person, just stop being so feisty LMAO wrong word but idc. there are indeed cruel women out there but i don't think that shld be a reason to label all women as crazies waiting to throw u in jail. feminists r good people, they aren't like the corrupt women you tend to see online.
& yes, gang violence is a serious problem, especially where i live, but it is also a lot worse in many other places. you're talking about how girls lie about sexual crimes against themselves whilst also supporting the fact that many girls are raped. the me too movement plays a huge part in that, it's meant to be used to keep people safe.
@doopayo and your dumbass still doesn't understand how completely fucked it is to lose everything you worked for all because some psycho bitch hates you.
Not that you would know what its like because you've never worked for anything in your life. Just being spoonfed your bullshit "statistics" to justify ignoring innocent men because "it doesn't happen as often so it's okay to ignore/disregard it."
I hope it never happens to someone you know. Though I'll bet you'll be one of the first to disbelieve his innocence because we should "believe all women no matter what."
I've seen enough guys get falsely imprisoned because women went out of their way to lie in courts. I've seen enough guys lose everything they have and become a pariah all because of a woman lied and then suffered no real consequences when it was found out later.
So your "statistics" don't mean jackshit to me or any other guy who truly knows how serious it really is and how often it happens. And before you say it, yes I also think guys who actually do commit such a heinous crime should have the book thrown at them.
sir i honestly respect your opinion, aside from the spoonfeeding comments
my dad was taken out of my life when i was young, it did a number on him & i've seen him break down between visits. this is a pretty common, mild case & i understand how serious it can be. however, the way this guy is talking about this topic is laughable when he uses these terms and biases in such a way. this is some serious stuff, not some femenazi world vs wojak stuff.
instead of ragging on people can we just talk this out? this isn't an argument about who's got it worse, or who is the worst, it's meant to be a fight for equality together.
goddamn i want equality for guys too, i also want feminism & the me too movement to be respected & people like this guy not to think that every woman in it is corrupt & digging your grave early on. it's potentially contributing to making toxic people that will grow up to be miserable & unable to trust their partners in the future. it's ok to raise awareness about the crazies but talking about women in general like they're mines on a battlefield isn't.
i don't like writing essays. in the future i'll ignore topics like these completely 🗿
@SlightlyEccentric this post ignored the fact that men are victims of rape too, but ok? You care about male victims so much, estimates of false rape accusations range from 2-10%. men falsely accused of rape are often able to dissolve these matters before spending substantial time in jail.
Instead of focusing on a meager 2-10% of people how about we focus on the fact that over 63% of SA victims never report in the first place?
@Juxtapose no, how dumb are you? Men aren’t allowed to just touch women like that, especially since the article points out he’s a random grown ass man putting his hands on a 17 year old girl when she’s walking home from school?
I’d be scared too? Do you not understand that sex traffickings a thing? Your article literally proves my point. Tf did you link it for, dude deserved to go to jail, that was assault.
Not only that but the girl told him to stop. You need to quit acting like men are physically incapable to respect women cause that grown ass man had the time to stop but he didn’t.
Well I agree with u there. Be it as it may , u would'nt want to underestimate most of those on the tread including a lot of the girls. And only a few are pos predators too boot. Sa's and rapes don't occur online. People on gag as well as online say things to inocculate others into angry oppositional subjucations to derive they're point into u as an intimidation towards wrong is right and justification of they're own inequities.
@Bakcula i'm sorry if there's any personal experience behind ur claims of women being this trash. i hope that in the future u can mab find women who won't treat u like shit. u're nearly my age & it's sad to see that there r people in my age group feeling this way towards girls
@doopayo It's implied. Feminism lays all bad things in the world at the feet of white men. The UK doesn't have the stones to stand up to brutal Muslim invaders for fear of being called "racist".
@doopayo hahaha false rap accusations make up at least 30 percent more like 50 we know that from your source. You're obviously too dumb to understand that.
At this point I’m just going to assume you’re a troll. You don’t even link evidence for your statistics 🤦🏽♀️ yet call me the dumb one. Seems like I’m just “dumb” because you don’t like what I’m saying. Calling me a feminazi just makes your argument seem more out of bias than actual fact based sources.
And for the record I’m not even a feminist. It’s so easy to just make fun of others for their beliefs but I don’t tolerate that. If you’re going to add nothing to this discussion than you can stop wasting your time and leave.
Do something better with your time than making fun of teens on the internet.
@KrakenAttackin is it really feminism or have you just been conditioned to think that way. It’s so easy to hate something you’re just programmed to hate.
Feminism isn’t bad, sure it does have bad parts but discrediting the entire movement just because of your own personal assumptions is just going to keep you in a small box your whole life. You’ll never be introduce to new ideas and opinions if you never look to find them
@doopayo I wrote it's in your source and that's how it is. The 10 percent is from the rare cases where there is actually evidence. Most don't even come to court they could all be made up. 10 percent from the rare cases that are most likely to be true is a huge number. That means the real number is at least 30 percent at least.
@doopayo feminism is bad, factually. You have just never informed yourself. Sorry that men don't agree with people who are extremely sexist against them.
It doesn't work like that, MeToo accusations don't go to the police, so you're not going to the jail because of them, but you might have troubles with your reputation nonetheless.
I would like to say no, MeToo is a good movement, but I think it mostly likely has on a subconscious level, there was one video I watched about sexual harassment, and the video gave the impression that only looking at women is harassment, I was slowly becoming afraid of even LOOKING at women on college, and that cannot possibly be good, that's paranoia in my head, which is sad.
If society acted on the rule of law, that every accused is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and burden of proof lies on the accuser than there would be no fear. Every man who sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes a woman should and must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, that isn't the case. A mere accusation or hashtag can get you cancelled, fired from your job, evicted from any govt. sponsored housing, etc. So why would men want to risk it?
now is the time for men to fear for their lives if they don't they might be doing the same things as women a few years later. a woman can singlehandedly ruin your life but not vice versa i'd say unfair as hell
I don’t understand the paranoia when it’s proven that women very seldom ever report such things. Honestly you’re a lot more likely to get away with being a creep if you were interested. So a man walking in with no bad intentions has even greater if a chance of “me too” never happening to them. The most consequence most men will receive is personal hostility. That’s nothing to complain about.
I have an anecdote that relates to this my coach when he was in college almost got a sexual assault charge beca he had a party in his dorm and a guy and a girl passed out in the same bed together and she thought he assaulted her and since it was my coaches room he was also held responsible so he and the guy both almost got sexual assault charges. The only thing that saved them was the girls friend who said she put the girl in the bed to sleep.
@Ellie-V I agree with you. Most women don't do anything and the guy gets away with being a douchebag. I see it all the time at the college I go to with Frat guys.
I've definitely seen abuse of "me too" in action, but fortunately I've been selective enough with the women I have actually spent significant time with that it hasn't been an issue for me directly. 99% of the reason I don't make an advance is because of my own volitions, based on experience and preferences.
no but being raped by someone i trusted made me much more cautious in dating men. do you think that women haven't always been scared of being alone with men? welcome to a little taste of what we've dealt with for millennia
It's been a fact that women are a little too trusting as their liberal minds blind them of the possibilities and realities of those men who don't seem to be violent. Women will always give the reason of the doubt even if they have to suffer for it. I'm sorry to say but women are usually pro open borders/ illegal immigration and pro refugee even if they are attacked/raped by the very men they want to help.
do you want us to trust you and assume good intentions or not? your post seems to be angry that women are too on edge, yet you're blaming me for being too trusting?
It’s not dichotomous. You have to live with reasonable doubt you can’t live entirely trusting and you can’t live entirely mistrusting. You’ve gotta actually think about what you’re doing, where you’re at, and how you’re portraying yourself.
Literally couldn’t have said it better. Their logic is so flawed. On one hand they are complaining about women being too cautious and on the other hand they’re saying we are too trusting.
@DeltaCharlieEcho yah, I did live with reasonable doubt. I was cautious, didn't meet with anyone i didn't know well unless it was a public space, and didn't spend time alone with guys I didn't know well. Sometimes you're just unlucky
@Hallo626262 I was pointing out that the idea of being cautious while in the same room with the opposite sex is one that women have dealt with since the beginning of time, but for very different reasons
I've been sexually assaulted several times... even by a girl. As long as you respect a woman and ask her how she feels and what she needs rather than just assuming... you should be fine, otherwise the girl is a jerk. Some of the celebrity stories are pretty bs though I gotta say.
@KrakenAttackin I believe in "rape stare." There are guys at school that look at you as if you're a piece of meat. I've actually seen guys lick their lips as they look you up and down.
@KrakenAttackin I've read studies where handsome men get away with a lot more than the average male. If a handsome man "accidentally" touches a woman's ass it's okay. But if an average man does it he gets reported.
@DeltaCharlieEcho no... not the "rape stare" lol. I have legitimately been groped, felt up on multiple occasions by a trans guy as a kid, and guy who claimed to be a "feminist" around last year. Not too long ago I was locked in a car where a guy took his dick out & jerked off for 3 minutes till he finished before unlocking the car and letting me leave. I don't know what'd you would consider that one. I don't consider comments or stares to be "sexual assault." I will tell you: I did think these people were my friends... which is majority of cases. Rapists & assaulters usually don't just appear out of nowhere.
I truly, and genuinely, do not believe anything you have to say about being sexually assaulted, abused, or any other negative thing in your life. Unless you have a police report, hard evidence, and a conviction, no man should believe women when it comes to rape. The bar is just too low these days. Remember "Mattress Girl"? Remember how it turned out that she was completely lying about the whole thing and the guy still got kicked out of school? Remember how the courts came in and told the school that they had to allow him to come back, and the school said "we're a private institution, we don't have to do anything" or whatever their exact wording was? I do. I remember my first ex telling me she got raped then finding out that she was a pill popping liar and she was never raped in her life. I remember all the false accusations that get major media coverage where women go into court, get the guy put in prison, only to find out years later that the woman was lying and that she has no negative repercussions for taking years from that man's freedom and completely destroying any semblance of a future that he has. I remember the first time I saw a woman get a sentence for a false allegation and it was literally weeks of jail time served at her convenience.
I believe 0 rape allegations now. I believe 0 abuse allegations now. Thanks to feminism, and the legal authority it gave women to lie under oath without any recourse, I believe 0 claims women make against men in court. This is the future that feminism created. If you wanna bitch to someone, bitch to them.
Metoo is a movement where women call out abusive and illegal behaviour. It's not some sort of fad. When the hell has any man been charged for something consensual?
You need to get your shit together and stay in school. Understand your arsehole behaviour is not you being " a man" or "alpha" - its you being a troglodyte and problem.
I honestly don't know what's worse, the fact that in this era women hold all the power in a relationship and can completely destroy everything you love in minutes... or the fact that so many of them seem to insist that they are somehow more disadvantaged then men are despite everything being stacked in their favor.
If you ever trusted women, you were a fool to start with. Women are human beings, and humans can't be trusted. Even your own family will stab you in the back and cast you aside if it benefits them enough.
Trust issues = naive enough to think ANYONE is trustworthy.
I have been touched improperly by men at work but I’m not like that to report that. I think feminism destroyed a lot and that those feminists are crazy
@Arabella_Rose I won’t report it because I don’t like the me too movement. But I meant that I will say to the person that I prefer not to be touched like that. But it’s hard for me to say something like that
Not really, I just have to respect her, and require the same. I will be aware of having concrete evidence when accused unlawfully at a large scale, but if me and the SO are genuinely supportive of one another, or decide to break up respectfully, I have nothing to worry about.
**I will take accountability for my own actions, and say my peace. I won't fight to be right, but will discuss the issue properly so I can get it right, and expect the accuser to do the same.
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Lmao I literally got kissed by a man whom I wasn’t dating annd he made me super uncomfortable and i never signaled crap i did feel violated and guess what i did absolutely nothing the amount of times men feel the need to touch me or get comfy is insane and I can’t even do anything about it cause i know no one will believe me and i have to go through an unwanted cycle anyway i do not wanna go on stand and explain how i got violated and have to explain i am no slut. It’s embarrassing and a kiss is one of the few weak violations i am so used to it the kiss was almost ignored as i have had men literally in grocery stores put their penis on my behind when i was a whole kid how do i live knowing all that but ur biggest concern is “trusting women” well we don’t trust you either.
Anon... at your age you are talking about college fuck and suck, not the corporate world.
@KrakenAttackin I don't know wtf u just said
Ignore him he's just trash
I'm sorry all of this happened to you. I don't blame you for not trusting us
@LeoElias Look, Captain Save-A-Hoe is here!
@KrakenAttackin
hahahahahah "Captain Save-A-Hoe"
@KrakenAttackin If this is how you treat women online I'd hate to see how you treat them in person lol
Absolutely. During my corporate career I used to regularly mentor, interview, and help young women. Now I realize how foolish I was. I would never work closely with a you woman in a job I care about at all.
The me too movement includes male victims of sexual assault too? But nah, you men always gotta find some bs to complain about. When y’all are the ones perpetrating majority of the rapes? Against men and women
I have never raped anybody and the #metoo movement certainly does not include men are you crazy?
Unless you can name me some prominent female that was "metoo'd" falsely like men are.
#metoo has weaponized the justice system's biased towards women against men.
www.news.com.au/.../79331a2ca766b2b234717e59f0128bdd
I never said you raped someone, I just said men are the perpetrators rape more statistically? A lot male voices have been uplifted because of the me too movement, you just don’t want to consume information that you don’t agree with.
https://youtu.be/Zft697iv4y0
https://youtu.be/8xF0r8D-OmA
These videos are both very popular because the me too movement supports male victims 🤦🏽♀️ contrary to whatever red pill forum you’ve been on
@Juxtapose Absolutely true.
@KrakenAttackin the dude assaulted the girl and you really think he shouldn’t have went to jail? Fuck is wrong with you
He touched her arm and waist.. ssssooooo scary!
You're soft & weak as shit.
Asia Argento, who accused Harvey Weinstein, seems to have had relations with a 17 year old boy:
www.cnn.com/.../index.html
She was Anthony Bourdain's girlfriend just before he killed himself, purportedly over her. Can you name a more toxic cunt?
@msc545 Hahaha!
Damn man.. that somehow doesn't surprise me.
She was 17?
Y’all are fucked up in the head
If you had a daughter and a stranger just randomly touched her, you’d get scared and call the cops too
No, I wouldn't, I would talk to the guy myself.
I have had adult women touch me on the arm like that and it was never a problem. My little sister back in the day had some older dude try and take her to dinner and my parents just told her to avoid people like that.
I am always very hesitant to put somebody through America's life-destroying criminal justice system.
And now that same bitch is actually sexually harassing people and you're STILL defending her.
@Juxtapose he touched her on the arm and waist. The difference is that the girl didn’t know him at all and she was walking home from school. Many predators will abduct girls from school, they had valid reasons to be scared that you seem to be blatantly ignoring.
Lastly, you want to ask them yourself to make your decision 😀 dude? Imagine how fucked the justice system would be if we just asked murderers if they murdered their victims instead of making our decisions based on the information we have to work with.
There’s nothing in the article you sent that talks about the girl sexually harassing anyone?
*will abduct girls in their school uniform
I'll post it again then. Her is the cunt being an actual molester: www.cnn.com/.../index.html
You just compared a man touching a woman on the arm and waist to murder & kidnapping.. what kind of paranoid, delusional world do you live in?
I have had women touch me various times will making passes at me, even back when I was still pretty prudish as a teen. I just blushed and smiled.. no way did I ever think to ruin these girl's lives just because they touched me without permission in a way that did not hurt me at all.
I'm bi and have slapped another man on the ass before, same with a female friend. Do I deserve to have my life put through the life-destroying criminal justice system?
The umbroken link, my baaaad.
www.cnn.com/.../index.html
*unbroken
*while making passes
I have also had adult women playfully flirt with me and nothing bad ever happened. If anything it was a memorable and happy time of my youth. (yes I have a girlfriend now)
You do know people in other cultures will actually kiss each other on the cheek to greet each other right?
Our culture is going to be touch starved if people view simple touches as assault.
We don't know how many women rape since they get away with it 100 percent of the time. You are just a uninformed idiot.
@Hallo626262 Not quite 100% but certainly the majority of the time. The only women that seem to get caught are female teachers that molest and fuck their underage students.
@Hallo6262626 I don’t know how accurate your statistics are but most female rapist get away with it because most male rape survivors never report. Because in society its seen as “impossible” for a man to get raped by a woman even though it does happen. That’s why most don’t report and the rapist gets away with it, I think it’s sad that happens. I never said that kind of stuff was ok.
@Juxtapose yes I do know, people do that in my culture? But not with random ass strangers. Plus that’s literally just an excuse, you and I both know it’s not custom in America for people to great each other by kissing.
My point is if a stranger touches you, especially if a stranger touches your child. You can press charges.
Not even teachers are allowed to put their hands on students in that way, so why the hell would a random stranger be allowed to do the same thing?
That guy was a predatory creep. It honestly baffles me that you don’t understand that?
And I find it funny how you blatantly want to disregard the fact that he was a stranger? Do you go up to strangers and grab them by the waist. Let me know, cause you’re making zero sense right now.
Do you guys realize you are arguing with a 15-year-old child?
@msc545 so women don't get more mature after that.
No, idiot, the BOY was 17. Learn to read!
I have been touched by total strangers but I never thought it was okay to put them in the life destroying criminal justice system.
If a stranger touches you, just tell them to fuck off. If they touch you again, then fair enough, take them to court.
And by the way that "victim" ended up molesting an underaged boy.. oof.
Where did you get that information from? And regardless, that doesn’t make what happened any less bad. Those are two separate situations. Obviously she shouldn’t be molesting underage boys
I still like women since I can't help it (I wish I was aromantic or something) however women are actually a bunch if snakes know the grass. Not all are bad but some girls are ruining it for others. Take the Johnny Depp incident for instance.
yh AH is a right old bitch
Don't trust people. Trust yourself. A girl if she likes you then there's no problem, be with everyone but never cross the line. If you with about the slightest thing then simply don't take the first steps, let her take the first steps. You're young, let the time guide you.
Not really. I stopped dating before Me Too was a thing and I'm much happier without dating or a relationship in my life. Also I have always been a mentally and emotionally guarded person. Does not matter if you are a man or woman getting close to me on any level is a lot like crossing a WW I trench battle field and storming Normandy right after. Me Too isn't a concern of mine.
Yes, definitely. I am less interested in trusting women.
i can't b arsed to explain to people like u anymore, who have obviously inhaled too much of the popular red pill media. unless u're open to it, i'll just soak up all of the cringe XD
'femenazi', my god.
Why did you scream "rape" to many times in school?
You are from the UK? HA! You poor girl, now I know. UK girls are easy meat even for girls like you to get picked up by Azn's in taxi's. Not sure how you people allowed your country to bend over so much to allow grooming gangs to rape so many British girls. UK... I feel sorry for the people there, so lost.
bro u have such a negative outlook on life, u seem like u'd be a funny person, just stop being so feisty LMAO wrong word but idc. there are indeed cruel women out there but i don't think that shld be a reason to label all women as crazies waiting to throw u in jail. feminists r good people, they aren't like the corrupt women you tend to see online.
& yes, gang violence is a serious problem, especially where i live, but it is also a lot worse in many other places. you're talking about how girls lie about sexual crimes against themselves whilst also supporting the fact that many girls are raped. the me too movement plays a huge part in that, it's meant to be used to keep people safe.
I agree with you, these people really don’t realize they’re more likely to be raped by a man than to be accused of rape by a woman 😂
@doopayo and your dumbass still doesn't understand how completely fucked it is to lose everything you worked for all because some psycho bitch hates you.
Not that you would know what its like because you've never worked for anything in your life. Just being spoonfed your bullshit "statistics" to justify ignoring innocent men because "it doesn't happen as often so it's okay to ignore/disregard it."
I hope it never happens to someone you know. Though I'll bet you'll be one of the first to disbelieve his innocence because we should "believe all women no matter what."
I've seen enough guys get falsely imprisoned because women went out of their way to lie in courts. I've seen enough guys lose everything they have and become a pariah all because of a woman lied and then suffered no real consequences when it was found out later.
So your "statistics" don't mean jackshit to me or any other guy who truly knows how serious it really is and how often it happens. And before you say it, yes I also think guys who actually do commit such a heinous crime should have the book thrown at them.
@SlightlyEccentric
sir i honestly respect your opinion, aside from the spoonfeeding comments
my dad was taken out of my life when i was young, it did a number on him & i've seen him break down between visits. this is a pretty common, mild case & i understand how serious it can be. however, the way this guy is talking about this topic is laughable when he uses these terms and biases in such a way. this is some serious stuff, not some femenazi world vs wojak stuff.
instead of ragging on people can we just talk this out? this isn't an argument about who's got it worse, or who is the worst, it's meant to be a fight for equality together.
goddamn i want equality for guys too, i also want feminism & the me too movement to be respected & people like this guy not to think that every woman in it is corrupt & digging your grave early on. it's potentially contributing to making toxic people that will grow up to be miserable & unable to trust their partners in the future. it's ok to raise awareness about the crazies but talking about women in general like they're mines on a battlefield isn't.
i don't like writing essays. in the future i'll ignore topics like these completely 🗿
@SlightlyEccentric this post ignored the fact that men are victims of rape too, but ok? You care about male victims so much, estimates of false rape accusations range from 2-10%. men falsely accused of rape are often able to dissolve these matters before spending substantial time in jail.
Instead of focusing on a meager 2-10% of people how about we focus on the fact that over 63% of SA victims never report in the first place?
www.nsvrc.org/.../..._Overview_False-Reporting.pdf
doopayo... What is with u about rape innuendos these days?
www.news.com.au/.../79331a2ca766b2b234717e59f0128bdd
@Juxtapose no, how dumb are you? Men aren’t allowed to just touch women like that, especially since the article points out he’s a random grown ass man putting his hands on a 17 year old girl when she’s walking home from school?
I’d be scared too? Do you not understand that sex traffickings a thing? Your article literally proves my point. Tf did you link it for, dude deserved to go to jail, that was assault.
Not only that but the girl told him to stop. You need to quit acting like men are physically incapable to respect women cause that grown ass man had the time to stop but he didn’t.
@Djaay because the posts spreading misinformation that’s harmful for victims of SA. As well as most of the other people in this thread
Well I agree with u there. Be it as it may , u would'nt want to underestimate most of those on the tread including a lot of the girls. And only a few are pos predators too boot. Sa's and rapes don't occur online. People on gag as well as online say things to inocculate others into angry oppositional subjucations to derive they're point into u as an intimidation towards wrong is right and justification of they're own inequities.
@Djaay To be honest I think she's a rape victim her self. Probably Damaged goods or something along those lines.
Bakula Who?
Bakcula... You talking about (doopayo) ? I hope not , I happen to be friends with her and she's a great person inside. just saying
It’s fine, they’re just the type of person that just says random bs to make themselves feel better about themselves
>they're just the type of person that just says random bs to make themselves feel better about themselves
That's the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it before
@Bakcula i'm sorry if there's any personal experience behind ur claims of women being this trash. i hope that in the future u can mab find women who won't treat u like shit.
u're nearly my age & it's sad to see that there r people in my age group feeling this way towards girls
@Bakcula. In the UK everything is the fault of white men, even Muslim rape gangs must somehow be linked to white men oppressing someone.
The UK is self immolating and the US is on the same track.
@siseñor. Go enjoy a Taharrush party than come back and tell me how everything is the fault of white men.
@KrakenAttackin She mentioned nothing about race
@doopayo It's implied. Feminism lays all bad things in the world at the feet of white men. The UK doesn't have the stones to stand up to brutal Muslim invaders for fear of being called "racist".
Hahaha so funny how women destroy even the last thought of being equal to men. You're just little kids. FEMINAZI.
@doopayo hahaha false rap accusations make up at least 30 percent more like 50 we know that from your source. You're obviously too dumb to understand that.
At this point I’m just going to assume you’re a troll. You don’t even link evidence for your statistics 🤦🏽♀️ yet call me the dumb one. Seems like I’m just “dumb” because you don’t like what I’m saying. Calling me a feminazi just makes your argument seem more out of bias than actual fact based sources.
And for the record I’m not even a feminist. It’s so easy to just make fun of others for their beliefs but I don’t tolerate that. If you’re going to add nothing to this discussion than you can stop wasting your time and leave.
Do something better with your time than making fun of teens on the internet.
@KrakenAttackin is it really feminism or have you just been conditioned to think that way. It’s so easy to hate something you’re just programmed to hate.
Feminism isn’t bad, sure it does have bad parts but discrediting the entire movement just because of your own personal assumptions is just going to keep you in a small box your whole life. You’ll never be introduce to new ideas and opinions if you never look to find them
@KrakenAttackin ur racism detector must b wonky, no racism over here mr
@doopayo I wrote it's in your source and that's how it is. The 10 percent is from the rare cases where there is actually evidence. Most don't even come to court they could all be made up. 10 percent from the rare cases that are most likely to be true is a huge number. That means the real number is at least 30 percent at least.
@doopayo feminism is bad, factually. You have just never informed yourself. Sorry that men don't agree with people who are extremely sexist against them.
It doesn't work like that, MeToo accusations don't go to the police, so you're not going to the jail because of them, but you might have troubles with your reputation nonetheless.
I would like to say no, MeToo is a good movement, but I think it mostly likely has on a subconscious level, there was one video I watched about sexual harassment, and the video gave the impression that only looking at women is harassment, I was slowly becoming afraid of even LOOKING at women on college, and that cannot possibly be good, that's paranoia in my head, which is sad.
If society acted on the rule of law, that every accused is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and burden of proof lies on the accuser than there would be no fear. Every man who sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes a woman should and must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, that isn't the case. A mere accusation or hashtag can get you cancelled, fired from your job, evicted from any govt. sponsored housing, etc. So why would men want to risk it?
now is the time for men to fear for their lives if they don't they might be doing the same things as women a few years later. a woman can singlehandedly ruin your life but not vice versa i'd say unfair as hell
I'd say there must be a way for these women to face consequences too.
@UncleJessieRabbit not yet i guess
I don’t understand the paranoia when it’s proven that women very seldom ever report such things. Honestly you’re a lot more likely to get away with being a creep if you were interested. So a man walking in with no bad intentions has even greater if a chance of “me too” never happening to them. The most consequence most men will receive is personal hostility. That’s nothing to complain about.
I have an anecdote that relates to this my coach when he was in college almost got a sexual assault charge beca he had a party in his dorm and a guy and a girl passed out in the same bed together and she thought he assaulted her and since it was my coaches room he was also held responsible so he and the guy both almost got sexual assault charges. The only thing that saved them was the girls friend who said she put the girl in the bed to sleep.
@Birdlegs ok and? I didn’t say it doesn’t happen at all. My point is that the paranoia is not necessary because most women don’t do anything.
@Ellie-V
I agree with you. Most women don't do anything and the guy gets away with being a douchebag. I see it all the time at the college I go to with Frat guys.
@Cathy7734 then you are blind to what woman do, ask any male nurse about harasment they get at work.
@Cathy7734 sure sis
I've definitely seen abuse of "me too" in action, but fortunately I've been selective enough with the women I have actually spent significant time with that it hasn't been an issue for me directly. 99% of the reason I don't make an advance is because of my own volitions, based on experience and preferences.
no but being raped by someone i trusted made me much more cautious in dating men. do you think that women haven't always been scared of being alone with men? welcome to a little taste of what we've dealt with for millennia
It's been a fact that women are a little too trusting as their liberal minds blind them of the possibilities and realities of those men who don't seem to be violent. Women will always give the reason of the doubt even if they have to suffer for it. I'm sorry to say but women are usually pro open borders/ illegal immigration and pro refugee even if they are attacked/raped by the very men they want to help.
do you want us to trust you and assume good intentions or not? your post seems to be angry that women are too on edge, yet you're blaming me for being too trusting?
It’s not dichotomous. You have to live with reasonable doubt you can’t live entirely trusting and you can’t live entirely mistrusting. You’ve gotta actually think about what you’re doing, where you’re at, and how you’re portraying yourself.
Literally couldn’t have said it better. Their logic is so flawed. On one hand they are complaining about women being too cautious and on the other hand they’re saying we are too trusting.
@DeltaCharlieEcho yah, I did live with reasonable doubt. I was cautious, didn't meet with anyone i didn't know well unless it was a public space, and didn't spend time alone with guys I didn't know well. Sometimes you're just unlucky
Well you're most likely to be raped by someone like that obviously. Not by someone on the street like women tend to believe.
I don't really understand how this is even relevant here. Sorry but I couldn't care less how cautious you are.
@Hallo626262 I was pointing out that the idea of being cautious while in the same room with the opposite sex is one that women have dealt with since the beginning of time, but for very different reasons
I've been sexually assaulted several times... even by a girl. As long as you respect a woman and ask her how she feels and what she needs rather than just assuming... you should be fine, otherwise the girl is a jerk. Some of the celebrity stories are pretty bs though I gotta say.
I don’t believe you.
@DeltaCharlieEcho Agreed. She is probably one who believes in "rape stare".
Every woman has a rape story. 99% of them are complete fabrications.
@KrakenAttackin
I believe in "rape stare." There are guys at school that look at you as if you're a piece of meat. I've actually seen guys lick their lips as they look you up and down.
@Cathy7734 Welcome to the real world; you are just a piece of meat.
@JamesRandiDebates True. And no man should date a girl who claims she was raped.
@Cathy7734 If you found the guys attractive you would not have a problem with this.
@KrakenAttackin
I've read studies where handsome men get away with a lot more than the average male. If a handsome man "accidentally" touches a woman's ass it's okay. But if an average man does it he gets reported.
@Cathy7734 hahahahah poor wamens. The funny thing is you're unironically serious about this. As if women don't look at men. You need help.
@Cathy7734 pretty woman also get away with more then ugly ones. Shouldn't that be obvious?
@DeltaCharlieEcho no... not the "rape stare" lol. I have legitimately been groped, felt up on multiple occasions by a trans guy as a kid, and guy who claimed to be a "feminist" around last year. Not too long ago I was locked in a car where a guy took his dick out & jerked off for 3 minutes till he finished before unlocking the car and letting me leave. I don't know what'd you would consider that one. I don't consider comments or stares to be "sexual assault." I will tell you: I did think these people were my friends... which is majority of cases. Rapists & assaulters usually don't just appear out of nowhere.
I truly, and genuinely, do not believe anything you have to say about being sexually assaulted, abused, or any other negative thing in your life. Unless you have a police report, hard evidence, and a conviction, no man should believe women when it comes to rape. The bar is just too low these days. Remember "Mattress Girl"? Remember how it turned out that she was completely lying about the whole thing and the guy still got kicked out of school? Remember how the courts came in and told the school that they had to allow him to come back, and the school said "we're a private institution, we don't have to do anything" or whatever their exact wording was? I do. I remember my first ex telling me she got raped then finding out that she was a pill popping liar and she was never raped in her life. I remember all the false accusations that get major media coverage where women go into court, get the guy put in prison, only to find out years later that the woman was lying and that she has no negative repercussions for taking years from that man's freedom and completely destroying any semblance of a future that he has. I remember the first time I saw a woman get a sentence for a false allegation and it was literally weeks of jail time served at her convenience.
I believe 0 rape allegations now. I believe 0 abuse allegations now. Thanks to feminism, and the legal authority it gave women to lie under oath without any recourse, I believe 0 claims women make against men in court. This is the future that feminism created. If you wanna bitch to someone, bitch to them.
@DeltaCharlieEcho Well said!
You should really be cautious with guys who say they are feminists.
Da fuck are you babbling about, kiddo?
Metoo is a movement where women call out abusive and illegal behaviour. It's not some sort of fad. When the hell has any man been charged for something consensual?
You need to get your shit together and stay in school. Understand your arsehole behaviour is not you being " a man" or "alpha" - its you being a troglodyte and problem.
What planet do you live on?
I honestly don't know what's worse, the fact that in this era women hold all the power in a relationship and can completely destroy everything you love in minutes... or the fact that so many of them seem to insist that they are somehow more disadvantaged then men are despite everything being stacked in their favor.
The first one is worse because its objectively true that a false allegation will ruin your reputation and get you caught up in court for years
If you ever trusted women, you were a fool to start with. Women are human beings, and humans can't be trusted. Even your own family will stab you in the back and cast you aside if it benefits them enough.
Trust issues = naive enough to think ANYONE is trustworthy.
I have been touched improperly by men at work but I’m not like that to report that. I think feminism destroyed a lot and that those feminists are crazy
Maybe you enjoy being touched at work?
@Arabella_Rose no I didn’t like it but I was afraid to say I didn’t accept it. But now I think I have enough guts
@Moimaris. Well you shouldn’t report it cus reporting it would be you support the “me too “ movement
@Arabella_Rose I won’t report it because I don’t like the me too movement. But I meant that I will say to the person that I prefer not to be touched like that. But it’s hard for me to say something like that
It may be hard to say but it´s surely worth it because he might stop trying and you´ll probably feel better afterwards.
@Lionman95 yes, thank you
@Moimaris the guy knows what he is doing is wrong. but he chose to do it because he doesn't respect you. He knows its not socially acceptable.
can you follow me moimaris, i want to dm you
Not really, I just have to respect her, and require the same. I will be aware of having concrete evidence when accused unlawfully at a large scale, but if me and the SO are genuinely supportive of one another, or decide to break up respectfully, I have nothing to worry about.
**I will take accountability for my own actions, and say my peace. I won't fight to be right, but will discuss the issue properly so I can get it right, and expect the accuser to do the same.
@Question_091. You are living in a fools world.
This is the only life I have, and I will live it wisely.