Vast majority if not exclusively all the revenue made by dating apps are from men purchasing memberships, which women seldom do. And we are not paying money to be friends with someone we find sexually attractive and interesting. A man gains nothing most of the time by being friends with a woman he finds attractive.
"Where are all the gentlemen that know how to have a conversation and don’t offer preposterous suggestions just because we matched on an app"
well just for starters I must inform you that you're never gonna find this "Noah" of yours on dating apps aka the thing that has fucked up dating for good
You're on a dating app, and people on those apps aren't, typically, searching for friendships. They desire a relationship. Hence the term, dating app. If you don't connect with him, that's completely fine, though. Also, Noah from "The Notebook" wasn't open to being friends with Allie first either.
You do realise the man you're describing isn't likely gonna be on a dating app. In general people don't go on dating apps to make friends. It's assumed that people on there are here looking for dates, not friends. You'll be better off trying to meet people outside, like a park or a club or some hobby workshop.
Pick better men and blame the friendzone for guys not wanting to get stuck in it.
If i'm looking for a partner i don't mind taking it slow, however i will not be your friend. I'm looking for a partner and will pursue one woman at a time, not tons of friends.
Usually that problem happens when there is no sexual chemistry between the two
„Friends first“ is a complete joke. Now, expecting a guy to take time to get to know you is fine, but that’s something completely different. Especially at your age, you don’t need to be on dating apps, and neither do the guys you want to date.
A lot of those women on there are extremely boring and uninteresting like I’m conversating with a dead horse like y’all expect to be entertained while contributing nothing and by the way ladies what I just described is the number one reason women get ghosted
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Because they have broken us. Try being a thoughtful and interesting guy; only to have >90% of your messages completely ignored. Why are you still swiping on guys if you have a 100 matches? Why aren't you focusing on the matches you already have and seeing if anything comes from them? At the end of the day, the point of dating apps is to find someone to go on dates with. If your not willing to do that you should probably try a different type of app.
And this is why you will never find the right guy on dating apps. You aren't selective enough with who you like and are too selective with who you've matched with. You don't have to go on a date with all of your matches, but you should be willing to give them a chance until they present a red flag or deal breaker to you. And saying "Hi" as an opening line shouldn't be included in either of those. It is a basic greeting, there is typically a lot more conversation to come if you just say "Hi" back.
So many expect immediate payout without having to put in the time to get to know someone. Many do not know how to respect others. It is just about them getting satisfied. So many do not understand how to treat women. Opening doors and stuff like that are mostly gone. I have had women be offended when opening the door for them.
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Noah is fictional. Noah does not exist. Noah was used to gross over $115M because he is every woman’s fantasy. And Noah could’ve done better instead of hanging on to Allie. Come on, he could’ve had any woman. This is why we men don’t cry when we’re tricked into watching The Notebook.
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Just falling the women's lead. I approached online dating with a hopeful, open, heart, but after a few years of nothing but games from women online I learned the true nature of online dating. Now I'm just on them for entertainment. If women are offended that's OK. It's not my fault if you have no sense of humor.
I can’t say I had the same experience. If anything all the boys I meet are always a bit too romantic for me and they cringe me out. We should swap our tinder profiles hahah.
They have options, too, and their time is just as important to them as it is to you. They know that men that you ARE genuinely attracted to won’t have to “be friends with you first”, so they don’t want to waste their time.
I think looking for Noah is unrealistic. Keep your standards, but don’t have unrealistic expectations from guys. Good luck finding the guy who feels right.
Notebook is cliche and bullshit in real life, I am saying this while being that kind of guy. The world isn't the same anymore, most women aren't looking for romantic guy or who will get to know you first or be friends. As girls keep them in friendzone as a backup for later while continuing sleeping with bad boys. Writing, taking care of your women days are gone.
I suck at conversations in general, this just gets worse with messaging and new people (much more if I find them attractive). Dating apps are horrible things and are more a thing of chance than a reliable way of meeting people to have a relationship.
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I think it's cuz when guys go on date apps it's usually cuz things IRL aren't going well so they're desperate to find someone and suppose everyone else on the app is as well.
@BarryLiverstone I'd probably say that to get a girlfriend (if they want to) they need to slow down a bit and try to really get to know her genuinely. Be a good listener and friend first cuz doing so they're showing that they truly care for her and not just about having their way on her (sex). When guy do that we tend to think they're just players wanting to fool around... Basically, I'd say to them to be a gentleman as the asker said ^^
Oh ya I totally agree if a guy only talks about sex or doesn’t listen to her that’s not going to work at all. But if he should treat her like a friend how will she know he has any romantic interest?
@BarryLiverstone Oh yeah, by "friend" I meant more as listening to her trying to get to know her genuinely first (like, don't just talking about sex and asking nudes).
But you're right, I agree that is good to make your intentions clear since the beginning not to cause any misunderstandings later on.
@BarryLiverstone Yeah, I think the same too. Some of they kept trying to persuade me into sending nudes and stuff, even when I clearly said no and that he was making me feel uncomfortable... So, that's really not nice
Sorry that sucks. Hope you reminded him porn is free online lol. I have learned to just enjoy conversations, they are a gift and you feel special learning about someone else genuinely
@BarryLiverstone Yes, I did remind them Lol. You're right, just by the action of learning more about someone feels special itself, it allows you to get to know them more as a person.
Lot of men don't really have the time to date IRL, due to work or whatever sadly. I agree with getting to know a girl first, to see if you are compatible or not.
I for example recently found a girl like that, we talked a lot, we were really clicking with each other. Then one day she just disappeared without a word and i actually have no idea what happened. Everything was going good with us, and we didn't get bored with the other either. I suspect she got banned.. So now i'm really trying to find her while also waiting for her to find me somehow...
Didn’t Noah hang from the bar of a ferris wheel and threaten to fall to his death if the woman didn’t go on a date with him? Seems manipulative to me...
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Vast majority if not exclusively all the revenue made by dating apps are from men purchasing memberships, which women seldom do. And we are not paying money to be friends with someone we find sexually attractive and interesting. A man gains nothing most of the time by being friends with a woman he finds attractive.
"Where are all the gentlemen that know how to have a conversation and don’t offer preposterous suggestions just because we matched on an app"
well just for starters I must inform you that you're never gonna find this "Noah" of yours on dating apps aka the thing that has fucked up dating for good
You're on a dating app, and people on those apps aren't, typically, searching for friendships. They desire a relationship. Hence the term, dating app. If you don't connect with him, that's completely fine, though. Also, Noah from "The Notebook" wasn't open to being friends with Allie first either.
You do realise the man you're describing isn't likely gonna be on a dating app.
In general people don't go on dating apps to make friends. It's assumed that people on there are here looking for dates, not friends.
You'll be better off trying to meet people outside, like a park or a club or some hobby workshop.
I'm also a hopeless romantic like you except I need a different kind of Noah 😅
Different kind of Noah?
I want a different personality.
Pick better men and blame the friendzone for guys not wanting to get stuck in it.
If i'm looking for a partner i don't mind taking it slow, however i will not be your friend. I'm looking for a partner and will pursue one woman at a time, not tons of friends.
Usually that problem happens when there is no sexual chemistry between the two
„Friends first“ is a complete joke. Now, expecting a guy to take time to get to know you is fine, but that’s something completely different.
Especially at your age, you don’t need to be on dating apps, and neither do the guys you want to date.
A lot of those women on there are extremely boring and uninteresting like I’m conversating with a dead horse like y’all expect to be entertained while contributing nothing and by the way ladies what I just described is the number one reason women get ghosted
Because they have broken us. Try being a thoughtful and interesting guy; only to have >90% of your messages completely ignored. Why are you still swiping on guys if you have a 100 matches? Why aren't you focusing on the matches you already have and seeing if anything comes from them? At the end of the day, the point of dating apps is to find someone to go on dates with. If your not willing to do that you should probably try a different type of app.
It’s honestly just an ego booster for me.
And you expect us to act normal when you just want us to feed your ego?
If the right guy comes along, I would be willing to give a chance
And this is why you will never find the right guy on dating apps. You aren't selective enough with who you like and are too selective with who you've matched with. You don't have to go on a date with all of your matches, but you should be willing to give them a chance until they present a red flag or deal breaker to you. And saying "Hi" as an opening line shouldn't be included in either of those. It is a basic greeting, there is typically a lot more conversation to come if you just say "Hi" back.
So many expect immediate payout without having to put in the time to get to know someone. Many do not know how to respect others. It is just about them getting satisfied. So many do not understand how to treat women. Opening doors and stuff like that are mostly gone. I have had women be offended when opening the door for them.
Noah is fictional. Noah does not exist. Noah was used to gross over $115M because he is every woman’s fantasy. And Noah could’ve done better instead of hanging on to Allie. Come on, he could’ve had any woman. This is why we men don’t cry when we’re tricked into watching The Notebook.
Just falling the women's lead. I approached online dating with a hopeful, open, heart, but after a few years of nothing but games from women online I learned the true nature of online dating. Now I'm just on them for entertainment. If women are offended that's OK. It's not my fault if you have no sense of humor.
I can’t say I had the same experience. If anything all the boys I meet are always a bit too romantic for me and they cringe me out. We should swap our tinder profiles hahah.
They have options, too, and their time is just as important to them as it is to you. They know that men that you ARE genuinely attracted to won’t have to “be friends with you first”, so they don’t want to waste their time.
I think looking for Noah is unrealistic. Keep your standards, but don’t have unrealistic expectations from guys. Good luck finding the guy who feels right.
Nope, my best friend has her Noah.
@heartbreaker007 well, that’s awesome! But finding your own version isn’t likely to happen on a dating app.
Notebook is cliche and bullshit in real life, I am saying this while being that kind of guy. The world isn't the same anymore, most women aren't looking for romantic guy or who will get to know you first or be friends. As girls keep them in friendzone as a backup for later while continuing sleeping with bad boys. Writing, taking care of your women days are gone.
I suck at conversations in general, this just gets worse with messaging and new people (much more if I find them attractive). Dating apps are horrible things and are more a thing of chance than a reliable way of meeting people to have a relationship.
I think it's cuz when guys go on date apps it's usually cuz things IRL aren't going well so they're desperate to find someone and suppose everyone else on the app is as well.
So true. You know guys like this?
@BarryLiverstone Kinda of, it wasn't a date app as I'm not 18 but they thought it was similar at least lol
Ouch, too bad they probably don’t even realize it lol. If you were their friend what advice would you give?
@BarryLiverstone I'd probably say that to get a girlfriend (if they want to) they need to slow down a bit and try to really get to know her genuinely. Be a good listener and friend first cuz doing so they're showing that they truly care for her and not just about having their way on her (sex). When guy do that we tend to think they're just players wanting to fool around...
Basically, I'd say to them to be a gentleman as the asker said ^^
Oh ya I totally agree if a guy only talks about sex or doesn’t listen to her that’s not going to work at all. But if he should treat her like a friend how will she know he has any romantic interest?
Actually my bad, this is too many questions and going away from the original q. You don’t have to answer
@BarryLiverstone Oh yeah, by "friend" I meant more as listening to her trying to get to know her genuinely first (like, don't just talking about sex and asking nudes).
But you're right, I agree that is good to make your intentions clear since the beginning not to cause any misunderstandings later on.
@BarryLiverstone It's okay lol. I'm just a slow typer😂
Wow that many guys just talk about sex in the beginning? So rude and objectifying
@BarryLiverstone Yeah, I think the same too.
Some of they kept trying to persuade me into sending nudes and stuff, even when I clearly said no and that he was making me feel uncomfortable...
So, that's really not nice
Sorry that sucks. Hope you reminded him porn is free online lol. I have learned to just enjoy conversations, they are a gift and you feel special learning about someone else genuinely
@BarryLiverstone Yes, I did remind them Lol.
You're right, just by the action of learning more about someone feels special itself, it allows you to get to know them more as a person.
Feel free to follow, I’m curious if those guys ever realized you are a person
@BarryLiverstone Okay, sometimes I wonder the same lol
Thank you ^^
Lot of men don't really have the time to date IRL, due to work or whatever sadly.
I agree with getting to know a girl first, to see if you are compatible or not.
I for example recently found a girl like that, we talked a lot, we were really clicking with each other.
Then one day she just disappeared without a word and i actually have no idea what happened. Everything was going good with us, and we didn't get bored with the other either. I suspect she got banned.. So now i'm really trying to find her while also waiting for her to find me somehow...
@ElvenMr Hope u get to find your Cinderella (or she finds u) and communicate well to work the things out and get together! ^^
Rooting for u both!
Thanks, haha, yeah it's really like that Cinderella fairy tale.
@ BarryLiverstone I'm really sorry about my behaviour.
I apologise myself for my rudeness or probably offensive previous behaviour.
That's it. Sorry.
If they were worth dating, they wouldn’t be on dating apps in the first place.
Just wondering, does that go for the women as well on the apps?
@nawtee_me more or less. But there are also girls there just to make a profit off the desperate and lonely guys.
@ms_vanderquack I agree with you totally
Didn’t Noah hang from the bar of a ferris wheel and threaten to fall to his death if the woman didn’t go on a date with him? Seems manipulative to me...