Yes.
I don't think they mean to be scammers though. It's just how nature works with the 80/20-rule and they do have to make money somehow..
And ofc it's not only bad for men that it's like this, as a consequence the vast majority of men on dating-apps are or appear to be thirsty af.
Many of these thirsty are not bad people, they just aren't good at online-dating while also not cultured in off-line-dating and have been alone for too long. They get no validation and have no real confidence, it's no wonder.
And where men usually didn't have the option to go online they used to go out to become confident in trying and at least then they had a better shot at giving a good impression or learn how to. Online chats are not good for first impressions, many men are filtered away too early to tell.
Rationally, men should stop being on datingapps and embrace the harsh realities of trying to improve in the real world. Walking up-stream is the way it's always been. Some things don't change because they are our nature. (And No, evolution won't save you. It happens over 10k-100k years , not as society shifts).
I don't think scambots are a part of the economic model on dating-apps. They probably just exsist because it's hard to find and remove them and it's been too profitable for them to stop making their way there. Scambots and catfishing are exploits of a weak system.
But overall even if it never was 'fair' in dating in general, dating-apps makes it worse. While they probably aren't intentional scams their accumilated flaws makes the experience of using them more a scam than not.
So yes. It's a scam.
most of them yes...
Tbh I use to tell myself oh I’ll never online date or use a dating app well last year I noticed Facebook added a dating tab and with the state of how things were in 2021 I bit the bullet and made a profile. Got matched to a lot of guys and started talking to a bunch. Then one guy popped up and we clicked on so many levels had a lot of the same likes. Started talking and got close enough to to exchange numbers or maybe we added each other on Facebook first I don’t remember. The first real test was when he asked if I wanted to FaceTime; I freaked out and almost messed everything up thankfully he gave me a second chance ( now FaceTime is a big part of our relationship since we live an hour apart and no cars lol) . I guess if your a skeptic like I was do research before joining. I’m so glad I took the chance m My boyfriend and I are getting close to our one year anniversary and think I kind of missed out because I was always worried about getting the weirdos her some creepy older guy like while
It depends on your expectations. I met my now husband on a dating app.
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Yes, they are a scam. The only people who win are the Top 10% guys, who can have casual sex with as many women as they want. The lower 90% of guys are almost ignored, and women, who overwhelmingly was committed relationships are almost never going to get one from the men they actually pursue (those Top 10% of men).
Dating apps are designed to be as shallow as possible, basing everything on looks and perceived lifestyle, so it shouldn't be a surprise that the success rate (assuming that committed relationships are the goal) is under 1%.
in my opinion, if you are spending ANY time on dating apps, then you are setting yourself up for failure and wasted time.
Meet people IN PERSON out in the world and get off your phone.
u I do NOT think dating sites are a scam.
The problm with online dating is that it is definitely a different way to meet people but most participants don't take those differences into account. If you aren't having any luck it may be that you are using thw wrong sites, that your profile needs a substantial revision, your profile photos may be projecting the wrong image, or something else. But everyone who tries and does not succeed wants to blame the sites.
If I was not in a relationship, I could put a profile on one or two sites and start having first dates within a few weeks. However, I am currently living with my girlfriend (who I met on zoosk.) Before her, I dated a lady I met on Bumble, and I had seveal dates with women I met on POF.
Perhaps you should consult an online dating coach.
If you think using the free versions should work then yes those are a scam. If you want to get the most out of dating apps you need to upgrade the app.
Never personally used one myself, but from what I've heard, I would say it's more scammers than authentic people, although there has been some success cases, I think that's the minority not majority
It depends on your definition of a scam. If you mean money scammers, then there are some, but you'd have to have the IQ of cabbage to fall for it.
When you live in Montana, and the handsome doctor in New Delhi India says he wants to marry you, but his wallet was stolen and he needs airfare money...
I know a woman who fell for that not once but twice. She deserves to be scammed.
If your idea of a scam is the cost of membership, then you're on the wrong site. The largest dating site in the world is free.
If your idea of a scam is just that the whole thing is a crappy idea, then you are correct. The hot guys carpet bomb the site and even the plain Jane gets a nice, generic copy & pasted message. So now plain Jane thinks she's hot. So when average Alvin messages plain Jane, then Jane doesn't give him the time of day. So when the hot guy is getting desperate on a late Friday night, he agrees to meet with plain Jane. He uses her, and then she says that all guys are jerks, including average Alvin that wanted to put a ring on her finger. It's all a complete waste of time.
Not a scam, but the men generally outnumber the women on them. From my experience they work out alright if you're young, single, attractive, and looking for casual. Otherwise not so much.
Generally people are desperate to begin with on dating sites leading to women getting tons of messages, while replying to few, with guys sending out tons of messages and getting few replies. As for message content, men and women can get pretty umm, creative.
It is easier and less time consuming than cold approaching every group of women you run across in bars, though the success rate is higher that way. Finding a good relationship is tough in general regardless of your approach though *shrug*
Sort of because dating apps often times are more interested in money making than actually bringing people together.
Dating apps make guys more desperate because you´re confronted with a high number of possible female candidates and from an average guy´s point of view only a small minority of them will start a conversation with you.
So my tactic on dating apps is to keep the conversation as long as possible as interesting as possible. That might look desperate but it´s the only chance I get.
When I used the dating apps, all men would only want hookup they would not want a girlfriend. I wouldn’t even post sexy pic lol my profile was just a selfie. Nothing sexual. I don't know how women find husbands or get serious relationship on the app. Or if I talk to a guy he wants fast send dick pic. If I say to them I want a boyfriend meet parents , not sex hook up, they stop talking to me. Makes me wonder the single men that exist are single cuz they only want Sex! I don’t find one single guy that want a girlfriend, meet parents , I’m not asking for marriage lol just a normal relationship
Pretty much yeah. My buddy was bummed he got one match in a little over a month. He's an average dad bod guy around my age. The only time I made one was when he requested me to. Tinder, it was up 8 hours. I got 17 matches. I'd NEVER consider meeting someone on there where I'm at a disadvantage without body Lang, eye contact, touch etc. Id rather play with my 💪, aproaching a woman I already know is into me. I always thought of online dating as setting yourself up for the social rejects of society. That's not an attack, just an opinion.
I do i wasted so much time and money on bs dating apps only to find out that they are full of fake profiles with pictures stolen from random people on social media ig, fb, etc.. and the messages are generated from a bot or a person hired randomly with the money the stolw fooling people
100€ on JRL (scam) they actually pay people like €5-10 to write positive reviews about these apps or sites only intended to deceive people, fraud them and rip their money from them.
19€ tinder (the founder of this app made billions... fooling men that should tell something) i don't know anyone who ever met or even hooked up from tinder
100€ on dating. com (other scam), refused to talk on video said something like we can talk through pictures 😂😂😂
These apps only work for women since they have a pool to choose from and just hookup
They are a business. It is in their best interest to keep your money flowing in. If they suceed in helping you find a partner then you may decide to discontinue payments. I feel they do whatever they need to so you dont cancel your service with them. A tad underhanded but once you realize they aren't in this for you but rather your credit card the better off you will be. Find something you are interested in and join a local activity or group. A much better way to meet someone.
I just think it’s not a proper way to find your future spouse on. Most of the men on the apps look for sex sex sex and sex. That’s it. It’s a waste. I remember I tried being on there for a few days and all the men that were on there were so desperate or gave me the biggest Icks.
Just because you didn't achieve what you hoped for on an online platform, that doesn't necessarily make it a scam. The app can expose you to more people but it can't guarantee that they will be people you like.
The app would only be a scam if it was full of fake/inactive profiles that were made by the developers, or if it didn't have the features shown in the ads.
There are all kinds of people in dating app. Some are scammers some are not. Some are people who can not meet girls cause of their job and choose to find a girlfriend in social media.
some are shy and con not request from a girl for relationship so they try dating app.
Some other are mental ill and want to find a partner for unusual relationship.
Furthermore there are many fake accounts (mostly pretended Ato be a girl) are advertisig for cryptocurrency!
Overall I believe dating app is not as reliable as natural relationship but does not mean we never can not find a good partner in social media.
I believe they are. Apps are heavily catered to guys and they outnumber the women on the app 2:1 I think. At the end of the day, they are based around validation and game.
If you are good looking you will have amazing luck. Average or below you will have next to none. Apps are a crapshoot. Best bet will be to meet people in person through mutual hobbies.
I think dating apps are a scam for sure, but they benefit women more than they benefit men. Most guys on there won't even get attention unless you are a really good-looking guy. Also to your point that men are desperate on there, you are not wrong, but that is also because they dont get attention from women so once they do it's like they dont know how to act.
Every dating app, no matter how niche or what efforts they go through to seem "serious" is ultimately nothing more than a tool of hookup culture. Sure, you may get lucky, and sometimes a work schedule makes meeting people while out and about extremely difficult, but believing that you'll find a genuinely good match quickly online is pretty foolhardy.
For sure but a GREAT money making scheme 💰 . Meetup groups are so much more productive and it’s the ones you meet there that “knows someone”…. Sorry, but for the most part, dating app people are Lazy and Cheap. And, I rather be around a money-loving manipulative B- than a Cheapster…
Yes and No.
Yes for: average and below-average people who have to go through all the bullshit of wooeing someone just to get rejected anyway. Only to have algorithms of the apps work against them even further by shadowbanning unless they pay up.
No for: People like me who actually managed to have some success on it both relationship and hook-ups because we are deemed 'attractive'. The amount of mindgames we have to deal with are still there but far less.
u I don't really know... I've never had one, didn't even see how they look like
but I do think that if I ever tried one for whatever reason, there would have to be at least a few! that would be looking for something that is the same I'd be looking for... and then, I would just need one person to be right one... right?
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