An interesting MHO that I came across while on GAG
"I can't speak for every guy but I'd say a woman's RMV (relationship market value) is cut in half once she has a child with another man.SMV of men and women by ageI always like to say that a single mom to a man is about attractive as a homeless guy is to a woman. And if women would listen rather than just reacting with anger they'd understand why!Single motherA homeless guy is a gamble! He might be a good guy but something put him in that position. Same as a single mom. She's a gamble. Something put her in that position.And here's where women will make excuses such as He left her, he knocked her up and dumped her. He was abusive. Etc. What do all these cases have in common? HER. She CHOSE this "wonderful" man. In short if a woman is a single mom, it's indicative of her judgement. Why would a guy want to be with a woman who makes bad choices? Would a woman want to be with a guy who makes bad judgements? No!Homeless manTo make things worse most guys are smart enough to realize in many of those cases the biological father is never out of the picture. How would you women feel about a guys ex always being in the picture... yeah I thought so!
And I haven't even mentioned the financial aspect. It has been estimated that each child is a cost of 160,000 USD (Let's not quibble on the number).Cost of living with childThe point is if she had 3 kids you're already in the hole for a half million. Now ask each woman if they want to take a half million dollar gamble on a guy they choose. I rest my case!SMV/RMVSorry ladies make good choices and save yourself this problem. Single moms, you made your nest... sorry you have to lie in it."
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Do you agree with the view that when it comes to dating/marriage that a single mother is equivalent to a homeless man?
Assuming you mean she'd be less desirable in the dating market, then yes.
A lot of guys simply don't want to date someone and raise their kid too.
I think a woman being a high earner would probably make her situation worse too, because a lot of women don't want to date down in terms of how much they're earning and the guys earning on that level and above will have better options and won't settle for that - if she's willing to date down then yeah, she'll probably have an easier time, but being a single mother will make it harder.
This is probably part of the reason why Kevin Samuels' content was quite interesting, like I've watched a few of his videos and looking at the individual's he's talked to, he's not wrong exactly wrong in terms of stating what options those women have, especially in his most popular video 'you're average at best'.
Wow this is a confronting dualogue. I'd have to say yes.. Sorry single mothers every where. It is hard to pick the better scenario of 1/ he's a good responsible Dad who maintains the father relation ship and he pays and is always around and you have to maintain a working relationship 2/ he is a deadbeat dad who doesn't pay so you have to pay 3/ OMG there are 3+ fathers and they are all deadbeat dads so multiply 2/ by 3
I don't see the necessity of the comparison. You may not want to date a single mother, and that's completely fine. It's even completely fine if most guys don't want to date a single mother.
Everyone is attracted to different things, and that's fine. I don't have any kids, but I wouldn't be opposed to dating a single parent, so long as the other parent was okay with it. I have plenty of people I wouldn't be willing to date though, for reasons that many people probably disagree with, and that's fine. I wouldn't date someone who hunts, for example.
My point is that there's no such thing as a "sexual market value" or whatever you called it. Because people don't exist on a flat spectrum. Everyone is different, and has different preferences, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Women as a whole don't have a problem with you not wanting to date single mothers. We have a problem with the fact that you're rude, and that you evaluate women the same way you evaluate cars. I don't want a guy to like me because I check however many boxes, or because he thinks that I have a high market value or whatever else. I want someone to like me because they enjoy being around me, and they value what I have to say.
What sort of weird satisfaction do you get from putting people down? What did they ever do to you? If a single mom asks you out, just say no thank you, and move on.
This question is as retarded as it gets. Anything you get, new or used is a gamble. In fact, all of life is a gamble. The fact that you compare single mothers to homeless people is absurd, and quite frankly anyone who agrees with you is probably single too and for good reason. Homeless people are homeless for one of three reasons. Addiction, Debt, or simply unfortunate events.
Single moms aren't single by choice. Their relationship didn't work out, and they just so happened to have a kid with their previous partner. So what? You're marketing human beings like they're a car man and I hate to tell you no living thing is just an object. People like this are why the world is a horrible place. Smh
A homelesss woman for example, could end up being a perfect match for me by random chance, she might share all my interests and be physically attractive and be kind and sweet and loyal and loving.
A single mom however, has a kid. So regardless of her character, or what kind of person she is, or how she got to where she is now, I would not be interested at all, simply because I do not want to be a parent, nor do I want to deal with her ex in my life (assuming he is even around still).
There is no single mom on earth that I would date/marry, but there might be a handful of homeless women who are compatible with me.
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Wow, this is what I've been saying for the past couple years here. But you said it so much better. But here's my question for you. Do you think this'll ever get through to women? It always makes me laugh because when you tell women this they just get mad. As though you were just trying to make them angry. No! We're trying to help you! We're trying to keep you females from shooting yourselves in the foot. You can get mad at us. But reality isn't going to change. This post is VERY accurate to how guys feel. And that's not going to change. Sorry!
My mom was a single mom and is the best woman I’ve ever met. She raised me and my brother for 7 years until she remarried to a guy who was a widower. She got plenty of dates before she found him.
Although it did probably help that she had a well-paying job and a Master’s degree
Obviously the value of young single mom is less than the value a single gal but not substantially less. If a single mom is an 8, for value is equal to a single gal that is 6 or 7. More than half the men would choose to marry the single mom on the right over the single gal on the left.
Difference being women wouldn't fuck a homeless guy. Men would a single mom, I have been there myself it was not a turn-off at all. But I wouldn't marry her and certainly not take on her child financially
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