Do you think most men have no clue about getting girls and then misguide the others on top of that too?

[Anonymous]

These dating advises (for men) sure as F do sell not only well but sell what they can't deliver or give guidelines about things they don't understand 😜. It should be embarrassing but I think they are more about delivering nonsense and taking our $$. Or they hope it will create a diversion , so that we scare away the girls and that lowers their competition.

How does it work? First overcomplicate it, then also say stuff like women are complicated. Then make it look easy (and hire actresses/volunteers to make a scene).

I spoke with girls and they told me the whole dating process is rather simple. The tricky part of all? Getting the girls to get out of their house.

[Anonymous]

'I spoke with girls and they told me the whole dating process is rather simple.'

Most girls talk utter nonsense when it comes to anything about that. It's girls, mothers, sisters and female friends that have dished out nonsense advice throughout a lot of men's lives that have contributed to a lot of their misunderstandings. Ultimately most women will never admit what they truly find attractive because it is not politically correct so they will lie. The dating coaches take advantage of this.

[AmandaYVR]

I follow two male... what should we call them... dating coaches? But they only give advice to young guys about how to get girls (and maybe a little about keeping them.) One focus only on how to be a great lover. He's good looking, but he's been very honest about how he has his own insecurities, and he was a lousy lover in his early years of dating, and he felt bad about his performance, selfishness, etc. He got booted off youtube (twice, actually), which I think is unfair and is a good example of youtube's unfair censorship of the last few years. Now he's been forced into a pay-only situation, so I won't both giving you his info because his internet presence kind of sucks now, and his prices are too much for what the's selling in the written word. However, he does know sex, and know women very well. Well, girls. I think he got married, but he doesn't advertise that. I actually wrote to him, and he emailed me back, and I said I'm probably the last type of person that you would think follows you, but I am actually impressed with the advice you give. He doesn't talk about relationships, just sex.

Okay, so the other guy is this black dude, who knows every trick in the book, all the classic methods other 20something players are using to bed, and manipulate girls. He's brown past all that. He has a fatherhood channel now, too, so I guess he's really moved on. I recommend watching this guy. He will specifically address the crap that is being propagated out there, and then say why it is crap, and what you should actually do instead. I like this guy a lot, and he gives a lot of free advice, and hasn't been kicked off youtube. https://www.youtube.com/c/KevHickTalksGuyswithGirls

As far as dating coaches and supposed experts, I think you have to look at the entry point. The internet has 'democratized' many things, and the lower the bar, the easier the entry point, the more opportunists will come in and try to sell the public their 'expertise.' Some people can give good advice without having formal training. I wouldn't, personally, blindly follow someone without looking into their background a bit.

Also, many gags on youtube, etc., are focused on 'getting girls', meaning, bedding them, not keeping them (happy, in a relationship long-term.) They treat females as some foreign entity (almost an irrational alien with tits that they want to touch), and talk all this smack about the lying, unfaithfulness, manipulation. But I think they're pissed off about that because they used to pretty much corner the market on this, and now some girls are acting just like them, also using them for sex.

There are always going to be players (and girls who go for them) - guys who play a numbers game. They're in a minority category (~20%ish) but they do most of the approaching because they don't fall apart when rejected most of the time. And they're giving females the wrong impression that these are who all guys are. The non-players do not approach, for fear of being seen as a creep, etc. And they're offended that this is their image, when they've actually done nothing to deserve it.

I don't think you can actually learn much from these 'pick up artists' (to put it nicely; I could be much harsher but I won't.) They don't know anything past the initial pick-up. These are the same assholes online who say "If you want to learn how to fish, don't ask the fish" - an absolutely ridiculous statement. Why? Because they're calling all females liars. "They say they want one thing, but really want another, they're just too ashamed to admit it." Fuck you. We can all learn from one another. Except, garbage in, garbage out. Don't fill your head with their nonsense. It does corrupt good minds.

[Asker]

The irony is these guys say to listen to those pick uppers, who get to bed lots of women since they have proven their success in bedding women (not keeping any!). Those pick uppers pretty much bullshit and lie to women to get them and they do so shamelessly like karma does not exist. I personally know one, who subscribes to that, told me to do the same things to women. Right in front of his girlfriend (she's a single mother, so I don't think she can be too choosy either)!

[Anonymous]

I totally agree. Most men are clueless when it comes to dating. Some of the advice they give on here is just pathetic.

[chicosuave]

Well it wouldn't hurt to ask the men who have so much success with women and who are almost never single. They know what's going on.

[FilmGuy93]

Generally speaking, yes, I do think that. Women aren't difficult creatures to figure out, and I think society does young men a huge disservice by pretending that they are.

[Iron_Man]

It’s not about picking up girls and playing head games it’s about Being yourself and speak from the heart, she’s either with you or she’s not one way or the other

[es20490446e]

Women are complicated when you address them like aliens.

[Anonymous]

Flattery will get you no where. 🤣🤣🤣