Do you think dating coaches are like snake oil salesmen?

[coachTanthony]

YUP

No they serve their purpose

see poll ( you are my favorite dating coach )

[zeitgeist057]

In some ways, in that they are trying to sell people something that is most likely going to be useless to them.

But I wouldn't say they are intentionally manipulative thieves (though some may be, I believe more are well-intentioned).

What some (most?) people do naturally, will not feel or come off as natural when taught to and practiced by someone who doesn't have a natural confidence and flow. Not that anyone is unteachable but there are some major barriers and not everyone becomes an amazing singer with singing lessons.

[EmbraceThePain]

No, not necessarily and not all of them. I think they can bring up good points and give good advice, but of course all of this has to come from something more than just opinion. I think the best dating coaches draw their content from common sense, experience, psychology, etc.

[Msputiton]

Well to me they are teaching a false narrative. Most of them teach that the opposite sex are of one mindset and if you follow these weird rules you will be successful. Yeah if you try hard and long enough you might get lucky and find someone who falls for the fake persona.

But the only rule really needed for dating is learn to get to know someone as an individual and you determine if that person is right for you.

[purplepoppy]

Absolutely. For a start what actually qualifies these people to dish out advice? Any idiot can set themselves up as a dating coach with zero training or credentials. In a world awash with misinformation and crazy ideologies that's a dangerous thing.
And just how hard is it anyway, just tell them to have a shower, get a decent hair cut, stop dressing like a child and don't be a dick head.

[coachTanthony]

I don't think it's about telling someone have a shower, hit the gym, get a hair cut etc... it's about holding the client accountable and pushing them to be their best selves much like a fitness coach. A fitness coach could say eat this and workout but they are hired to hold the client accountable and keep them on track.

[going-to-ibiza]

Sure - everyone can become a dating coach. But you can also open a fancy restaurant without any cooking skills or call yourself a business consulting without knowing Anything about business. So…:)

[coachTanthony]

@going-to-ibiza If you don't give your customer results that restaurant is going to close so I don't see that it's a good comparison.

[going-to-ibiza]

@coachTantony: why wouldn’t you think that’s a good comparison? Everyone can open a restaurant or become a dating coach. But for repeating customers you need satisfied customers - restaurant and coach. Absolutely the same:)

[purplepoppy]

Surely if a coach is any good he doesn't get repeat customers

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Don't hate me, but yeah kind of😁😘🤣

[Avicenna]

Maybe. I've never needed one.

[SoftCliff]

In my opinion yes. They’re out to make money from you, obviously, so take everything with a grain of salt. I don’t know if “dating coaches” are any different to PUAs but the latter is definitely predatory. You will be converted into a “school of thought”, most likely running a high numbers game with cookie-cutter lines. They will teach you to become immune to rejection which is vital to that strategy working, and then you will come out of a night with maybe 3 numbers out of 50 and feel like you accomplished something. Boom, there goes your $5k fee, you just paid an expensive lesson in statistics. If you increase the numbers (and have the confidence to keep approaching) then you’ll eventually get hits. It’s nothing special.

That industry has way too many snake oil salesmen. There is nothing that a dating coach can teach you that you can't teach yourself by reading and learning. Those guys charge ridiculous sums of money for questionable results.

[Iron_Man]

Most helpful award winter by far here

[SoftCliff]

@Iron_Man Thank you so much 😊

[Iron_Man]

You’re very welcome Hun

[Subarugirl]

For the most part yeah... though there are some that act more like counselors than actual coaches that will teach you some valuable life skills and give you some good information. Steer clear from the majority of male "dating coaches"... if you are trying to attract a women, chose a female "coach" with real credentials, and vice versa.

[Staximus]

I think some aren't and some are. Some people have no idea how to ask somebody out, or see the signs of attraction, build romance or act like more than a friend, etc. They need guidance because they are just fumbling. I could have used the help of a dating coach when I was a young man but there wasn't really any dating coaches. Nobody used the internet back then, except a couple of my friend's dads and the computers cost at least twice as much as my first car.

[Staximus]

I am not a fan of the dating coaches that tell guys to play mind games with girls. Yeah that might work if you just want to get laid and don't care about the girl, but it's no way to build a meaningful long term relationship if you want it to last

[Staximus]

I'm to old for games or insincere relationships. I lay it all out on the table and she can take it or leave it (it being me, an old grumpy tree stump of a man)

[Shark_61695]

In general, yes. I'd much rather see a matchmaker because my main issue these days is actually finding an opportunity to show my completely awesome and amazing dating skills (no sarcasm there whatsoever, honest...).

[LordOfThePines]

Yes, very much so. Based on what I have seen, they largely play on bitter men who seek to have sex, rather than form a meaningful bond with a woman, and tend to play into stereotypes and mysoginsitic tropes.

[NathanDavis]

I really don't know... I've never actually met one as in, their actual work, so I really can't tell about it

[Rania05]

First time I heard about snake oil so not one to judge

[OneManOnly01]

That term doesn’t literally mean a salesman who sells ‘snake oil’. It’s a special phrase, look it up.

[jillybeanns]

Some of them, yes. You can normally tell who’s full of it though.

[genericname85]

some are, some aren't. as the one that needs coaching, that's probably pretty much impossible to distinguish.

[zagor]

No, they may believe what they're doing, but I doubt it works.

[SaoirseS]

I know nothing about them so I wouldn’t know. Are they like Dr. Rick on the Progressive insurance commercials?

[Guy13]

Great Analogy

[coachTanthony]

Hey Thanks!

[Guy13]

Hey man... have a good one.

[Iron_Man]

If they charge I think so if they do it for free on the site like right here then I don’t think so

[coachTanthony]

Bahahahahaaha so they shouldn’t be allowed to make money?

[Iron_Man]

I’ve never charged anybody in my life for dating advice. I doubt anybody’s gonna pay you off of this site unless you have your own private company set up in a credit card system organized and have your own website.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

It's a scam like thearpy , but thearpy at least helps

[coachTanthony]

Glad you had some therapy that worked.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Took it personally my friend 🙃

[coachTanthony]

No therapy? My bad

[athelete_7]

Yep they are. Just he urself right ones will join ur vibe. If u fake nd get someine they won't want actual u and thats toxic.

[FreyaRed]

Glasses for blind one

[Fuentes]

Lol yeah cause if you ask me either you got it or you don't

[BJP21]

Not just dating coaches, match makers too.

[msc545]

They are just grifters.

[legalboxers]

you didn't sell ice to an Eskimo...

[engineer_weight_loss]

Aren't you a dating coach?

[MCheetah]

Some are, some aren't.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Yup.

[TheSpaceGnome]

If they gave advice on how to find your specific type in large quantities, that would change though.

Ultimately any other advice is useless, because people want someone like them, not someone different who they have to change themselves for.

[douride2]

In short yes.

[whiskeyontherocks]

Easy yes