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40K a year is not a lot, but it depends on how smart he is fiscally. I’d prefer someone financially stable because it just makes life easier. Dating someone who’s broke and needs financial support would be difficult on me.
Really depends on where he lives, how he invests, spends, how much debt he has etc. I would not date someone that has a lot of debt, but I would date someone who is able to provide for themselves and if financially independent. If he is someone who spends lavishly and impulsively, I’d much rather not date him.. regardless of his income. I prefer men who are smart with their money.
You're 18. You don't know shit.
Who said I do not know Shit? I know Jack Shit, Awe Shit, Oh Shit, Dip Shit, Holy Shit and Giva Shit. Dip Shit and Holy Shit are twins too. So, yeah, I know the whole Shit family.
@starlessdeath. I’m laughing at this comment
I can kind of see their point
No, they would not.
The average individual US salary is $36,000 a year, and the average individual household income (usually consisting of two working adults) is $62,000 year. So most men do not make this amount, you are right.
Many entitled modern women nowadays bring nothing to the table but their bodies, if even that. Only a few women now are interested in a man for who he is, as a person, rather than what assets she can exploit off him. REALLY wish things were different, but I've woken up from the blue-pill BS for a while now.
The women who say yes to this question - AND MEAN IT - may be decent quality women. Keep phrase being they "mean it."
and people be wondering why the west is suffering heavily from skills shortage and a labor crisis. nobody wants to do these jobs because they don't get paid enough at least in the case for men to keep a woman happy.
well at least 3rd world migrants are willing to do these jobs and their 3rd world wives are happy to stick with them through thick and thin.
You still need money to go overseas to find a wife
. there aren't many of them.
Nah, I really doubt it. When you get in shit, you get dirty! These wife will end up like the western girls sooner or later and leave their husbands. Unless they are housewives and rarely leave their home and don't use the internet which is simple not going to happen. You just don't come to the west, as simple as that!
I make more than that, but I would still stay with him so long as he is stable, good with finances, and works. As long as he has a job, that is what is important to me. Too many can't hold or keep a job and then complain it is society's fault when there is a labor shortage going on.
Work a cruddy job until you can find a better one, but at least be working is my requirement.
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i can't see that happening.
Sluts, whores, achieved nothing with themselves wannabe prostitutes wouldn't stay with him. They think because they're attractive they have value when their only worth is for douchebags. As saying goes beauty is only skin deep, ugly (and they've ugly natures) cuts to the bone.
A real woman who has self respect, treats others fairly, etc would stay because she knows his personality means more than his wallet. There's also the fact he may get a better job and more money. A family friend started at a very low job when he was in his 20s... nowadays at 54 he owns 2 vehicles outright (no loan or lease) worth over 70k, has a limited edition classic worth god knows how much, owns his 4000 Sq ft house outright (no mortgage), owns his winter property in Spain outright, & has 3 rental properties. His wife & he met in high school when he waited tables.
That's higher than my standard for a guy so I have no issue there. If he wants to work and be the main provider on 40k, I'm happy with that. It's his decision and I respect it. As you said, not everyone can make ludicrous amounts of money. Most never will.
lol, I answered the poll after commenting and I'm surprised. Most of the women I know would've answered no. At most, they'd give the guy a few months to earn more since I've seen this cause many issues for couples. maybe it's just G@G or the women I know are weird 😆
It's crazy to me that if you word a question just right, you can find out how common gold digging is. But if you ask these same women if they are gold diggers they will say NO
But at the same time these same girls will be dating guys that don't live up to their standards. See what they do when their emotions get involved.
Right now their answers are all intellectual and no emotion.
But we both know that isn't how humans operate.
For if they did everyone would be doing a lot better.
No. What would I bring to the table? I would raise our children, homeschool the children, cook his meals, clean the house, support him in all of his ventures, and work part-time to help him or on a side venture if I wanted to. I can't do any of that if he is only making $40k a year. UNLESS, we live in a rural area and have a farm or something. I would be fine with that.
If he makes more than 40k a year, he could easily just hire a maid, and go date a woman who loves him, and not his money.
Difficult to say. Just Googled the conversion rate. And if what I found is true, that's about what I make, which isn't a lot at all.
I hope to get something better in the future.
But more than what he earns, it's more important to me what his relationship with money is. How he spends it, invests it. Does he have debt and why he has it.
Stuff like that.
His salary doesn't matter since I have my own money.
Can you link the stat that says less than 5 percent of men under the age of 35 make more than 40k?
Even If I would chose not to, I wouldn't particularly have to do anything special aside from being myself to date a man making more than 40k as all but 1 of the men in my life (friends and former partners) take home more than that.
His money doesn't matter there are other qualities in a guy besides money. How does he treat a woman, is he respectful? Loyal? Faithful? Willing to stay with her for better or for worse?, and of course if he is smart, mature, patient and stable with money then all should be good.
I myself earn much less than 40k a year but had opportunity with guys who earned much much more money and they offered me everything from putting a ring on my finger and buying me a house but they were not loving, loyal people so I turned down the offer.
Will you find someone who will date and marry you? Yes. However, the pool of women who will find you attractive and date you best on 40K a year is going to be smaller than if you worked out and had more money. Most women judge men based on competency, fitness level, and income first, then personality. That's just the way of the world.
Sure, I make a good salary as a registered nurse so I don’t need a man to support me. If he’s a decent guy and we have good chemistry that’s what my focus would be on.
Good answer. So you'd be comfortable with him always making less money than you?
Yeah, that would be fine, wages and salaries are not where they should be for a lot vocations and professions. A lot of people are not paid what they are worth in my opinion so a lot of seems like just the luck of the industry one is in. So for me salary has not been my focus in looking for a partner.
It depends. If we have a good relationship, I’m still working and we can both save and he’s a good man with a good heart who loves me then I have no issue with it. Just don’t expect me not to age if we can’t afford Botox and plastic surgery.
You can't even support a housewife on with 40k a year. Don't even talk about supporting the entire family. Reality is, people who make 40k a year don't end up having any children. Even if they do have children, they will suffer immensely.
That's more than seniors get on Social Security, and they are supposed to live on $18,000 a year. So, yeah, I would and most likely would be working too.
That'd be fine with me. My husband doesn't even make that much
How does that work? He makes less than 40 a year , you’re a stay at home mom and have what 4 kids?
Oh okay that makes a lot more sense
I ;live in a liberal , high tax state , one of the most expensive places to live in the world. 78000 dollars /year is the low income mark. I don't think somebody that makes 40K with no chance of advancement will have much luck.
If it means not having some man trying to put his dick in the crack of my butt in the morning and not having his money and dying alone, so be it.
No way! It would have to be adjusted for inflation, or we wouldn't be able to buy a loaf of bread.
If he was good to me and respected me then yes I would. It wouldn't matter how much he made. I am more than capable of working too, and we can pool the money we both make together, and we'd be just fine. :)
All depends on his attitude towards his salary. Would he resent me for making more. How would that effect out lifestyle.. Does he make good financial decisions. Will he be opinionated or judgmental on how careless I am with my money
Yeah, I make enough on my own to support a family. I didn’t marry his wallet I married him
Curious how you can up with that number since the median yearly income for men in the notes states is about 50k a year
That’s a normal amount and I’d don’t date for money.
That’s fine. Idc about stuff like that. I know you’re gonna say I’m young but I bet I still won’t care that much in ten years either.
40k is more than enough for him to cover his 1/2 of bills so no issue there.
Hun, I am worth more than that.
I would kick his deadbeat ass to the curb!
I don't care how much money they make as long as they can look after themselves etc
Depends? If he's a spend thrift or miser, he can kiss me goodbye!
When I met my husband he was unemployed, but anyone can improve their situation in life.
It's not garenteed though you obviously know that. Would you have stayed with him if he only made less than 40k?
It is guaranteed. You can always improve. You don't necessarily need a new job to earn more money.
That is the very reason most people girls and guys only earn about 35k per year. They see only one way.
Money is not everything main thing is love.
for his whole life? nope
Thank you for being honest. What do you bring to the table to attract the 5 percentage of men who make more?
well since i’ll be making around $120k a year i’ll be in their circles which is usually how partnerships work in high paying field. lawyers tend to date lawyers. and doctors tend to date doctors because they understand each other’s careers. and are in the same social fields a light of the time. other than that, i’m very loyal, honest, beautiful, caring, submissive (assuming the man is worthy of my submissive in the first place) and supportive. i have traditional characteristics and skills such as housekeeping and cooking capabilities. and my life goal is to be a mother so if he wants a woman who values children i’m her. but honestly i don’t even typically answer this question because majority of men aren’t worth that. they’ll ask what a woman brings to the table while they bring barely anything at all. so what i bring to the table doesn’t matter if a man can’t bring anything else to the table but his money.
but regardless of all that, as i mentioned my life goal is being a mom. im like 100% so content and so happy with how my life goes as long as i can be a mother. i can adopt or go to a fertility clinic and get a sperm donor and the best is i don’t need to be in a relationship to do that! so if i’m alone with beautiful babies in a great economic and social position because i’m making a minimum of $120k a year i’d be living the dream. kids are what matter to me. and even if i were in a relationship once i have kids they would be my #1 priority and my husband would always come after them.
sorry for the typos. it’s late where i’m at lol.
No you're fine lol. The first note I'd make is that men actually don't care about how much women make. All that other stuff is good though. I guess I'm confused how you intend to be a mom and have a full time career?
the first note doesn’t really take away from what i said. i never said that men care about it, i just said that people in high paying field tend to date and marry each other. that’s just facts. i’m going into the medical field. the chances of me marrying someone in the medical field is high.
what do you mean how do i tend to be a mom and have a career? i don’t understand this question.
Careers in general cost you a lot of your time, how are you going to be a mom when you're working 70 hours a week?
my career works around 40-45 hours a week majority of the year so no different than a normal career. are we talking about if i’m in a relationship and i’m a mom or a single mother?
it would be no different than majority of the mothers in the US who not only work because their male partners aren’t sole providers, and who also do majority of the child rearing because men don’t usually do it because it’s too much of a feminine role for them. so this is why the question is a bit funny to me.
So you think you'll have time to be a mother working 70 hours a week?
As for the other point it doesn't make sense to me because if the guy wanted a feminine home maker woman logically you wouldn't choose a career woman because she'd be too busy to raise kids or build a home.
i just told you my career doesn’t work 70 hours a week. on top of that i don’t do traditional relationships. you’re assuming every guy wants a traditional relationships when in the modern economy, that’s not a possibility.
i’ve said numerous times that doctors tend to date doctors and they both usually work. so that pretty much mutes your “homemaker” point.
You're right, I meant to say 45 hours but said 70 again, apologies. 45 hours a week isn't much time with your children either though. And you are right about dating averages, typically women date men who make as much or more than them. What I'm saying is if you are both involved in a high stress and time consuming career how will you make time for children and building a home? I mean you could higher a nanny and a housemaid but you aren't a homemaker anymore if you do that.
I mean I guess you can do it if you kill your hobbies and fun actually. But that seems kinda rough.
most Americans work around 45 hours a week or more at the less than $40k jobs so how are they taking care of their kids? that answers your question.
i’ll do what other people in the medical field do or what my parents did for me which was so perfect for my development and growth. during my work shift my children will probably be monitored by my parents, their grandparents. that’s what happened for me and it was an amazing experience as i got to grow closer to my grandmother and her caretaker, some of the most amazing people i’ve ever known. i learned so much from them. after work my husband and i would watch our kids and perform domestic duties. on our days off we’ll watch our kids and take them places and teach them things. once they hit preschool age they’ll go to preschool and from there they’ll start the cycle of school which we all know how that works.
my homemaker duties will be done on my days off and because i don’t do traditional relationships, my husband will also perform those same duties on the days he’s off of we’ll switch off to
keep things fair :) at that point in my life my kids will be my hobby and fun and that will make me happy. of course my husband and i will still go on dates and such so there’s that too.
At least you're honest about not being a traditional woman. I'm Glad you know that.
I still don't see how you'll make time for all that but okay. I wish you luck.
definitely! it’s easy to not be a traditional woman when most men aren’t traditional men and dont act as such. you wouldn’t believe how many men are working in low paying jobs but asking for submission from their partners who are also working. it’s extremely laughable haha.
Well it sounds like you're asking for a traditional man.
if you’re working a low paying job you’ll understand when you have children :)
So that's odd
nope i’m not asking for a traditional man at all. i avoid traditional men. not sure what gave you that idea.
You said you would be submissive to him and he needs to make the same or more money than you. That's a traditional man. All a traditional man is is a man who leads the household.
Nevermind. You seem to have thought about it a lot so I'm sure you're fine. Good luck with that.
i would be submissive to him because i respect the male position in a relationship. if he is doing his duty of being a good male partner then i’ll be submissive to him. the level of that submission is dependent of how much of a dominant role he plays in the relationship which often changes throughout the relationship since things happen.
also can you point out where i said he needs to make the same or more money than me? cause i read through and i can’t find where i said that.
i would even this conversation too if i were you. people tend to do that when they don’t have anything of value to say or they have no argument. good luck to you too!
i also suggest you read up on what a traditional man is. you can’t be a traditional
man if you make the same amount of money as the woman lol. i suggest reading an encyclopedia on traditional relationships!
You mentioned doctors dating doctors, I assumed you were talking about that because then make the same money bracket. Or is it less about money to you and more important that they are career driven?
no i mentioned that because people in high paying fields tend to date each other. i never said that he had to be in the same money bracket but 40k isn’t enough especially if i’m making 120k. for me being career driven is important. it is one of the mandatory traits i need in a partner. so he doesn’t have to make as much as me. i don’t mind being the breadwinner. 40k is just way below my financial caliber to the point where it’s a bit insulting honestly.
at least 75-80k is ideal for a minimum
Women date across and up economicly, men date across and down. So men will marry women who are broke but it's rare to see the reverse. I don't know about doctors specifically but ruch men don't care how much their women make, we agreed on that earlier.
I'll ask then, if he's a doctor and loves his field and career, but made 40k a year. Would you be with him?
in this economy it’s not rare because as of February 2021 in the US, 50% of women in a two partner household make the same or more than their partner.
i want to reiterate again that the only reason i mentioned doctors and lawyers is because people in high paying careers tend to date each other. this is even seen with actors and musicians. because you’re in the same social circles, you tend to have more access to each other. that’s just the way it works.
this girl is delusional
not if he’s making $40k for the rest of his life. being career driven means that you’re hustling to get to the top and constantly improving. you’re not career driven if your income never increases.
i’m so sorry sir. i don’t care about the opinion of anyone who’s post questions like “why do black girls hate white tits” at the age of 43. sorry.
Please be respectful, if you aren't adding to the convo leave or get kicked from chat
You can absolutely be career driven and make 40k a year. In fact that's most careers.
i don't believe you're even a nurse
Most military don't make more than 40. I definitely wouldn't say they aren't career driven.
people who are career drive are constantly trying to level up in their career. that’s the type of career driven i’m talking about. the one who is looking for raises. the one who applies to a higher paying job every couple years. that type of person.
and i’m only saying that because that’s what i grew up around. my parents didn’t even graduate high school and worked from the bottom up to high paying careers. they just bought a half a million dollar house in my home state california and they did that through hard work. i can’t grow up seeing that and not want that in a partner. i’m also the first in my family to go to college, i currently work two job while taking way too many classes, and i’m about to graduate soon into a six figure career. i worked hard to be where i am so i need someone who will have that same mentality.
Money is absolutely not a marker of effort in a career. Lazy people get rich, and poor people work hard.
i’ve worked too hard and put too much work to be where i am to marry a man making $40k a year for the rest of his life. if someone were to happen to me my babies would be in poverty with an income like that. absolutely not.
*something
And also, you just admitted that you care about money more than him being career driven. If you didn't notice.
40k is not poverty. That's middle class. Poverty is below 10k.
to me it is. we obviously have different definition of career driven and that’s fine. as stated i think the way i do because of my background and seeing my parents hustle to always move up in life. i can’t be with a man who won’t do the same.
So you are wanting a man for his money.
if i wanted a man for his money i wouldn’t accept a man who made $75-80k minimum when i’ll be making $120k a year. so that’s a poor argument.
I just have one question then. If you were with a man making as much as you want then when you're 30 something happens and he's now only making 30k a year, would you leave him?
not immediately. things happen and hard times hit. i’m completely understanding of that. as long as he’s hustling to move up the ladder, even if it’s gradually, i’d stay with him. the divorce comes when he’s lazy and complacent and not trying to do better in life. and i’ll be making my partner sign a prenup so it would be a very smooth divorce as they won’t be getting a dime out of me :)
If you really think like this. You will die alone. I'm sorry.
I'm done talking here. If you wanna talk dm me, otherwise Goodnight.
think like what? also would love for you to revert to my earlier comment where i said that being a mother is all that matters to me so “dying alone” is perfectly fine as long as i have my babies.
you can take your apology back as i don’t need it. dying alone is your nightmare not mine.
good night to you too. i hope you make more than $40k one day :)
*dying a single mother.
my dream💗
I hope you grow up and aren't a gold digger.
can’t be a gold digger when you’re accepting men below your pay grade as partners💕
You're 20 years old. You don't know shit. Just wait.
Sure! 40K is a decent earning
You're the only girl on here. The rest are clearly gold diggers.
40K can be a lot, depending on where you live.
It’s not a lot in the United States. Median yearly income for men in 2021 is about 50k
Which states? Because when I looked it up, Mississippi has the lowest median household income and that was still a above 40k a year
If he was right for me, yes
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Crap I make only 2200 damn social security
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