Are most Western Women even worth pursuing for marriage anymore?

[Anonymous]

As a guy who's set to earn well above six figures and is discerning marriage in the future, is pursuing western women worth it? I've met some girls from the East who are just... so much better. People tell me it's best to date from your own league, but most girls in the west are obnoxious, high body counts, not feminine, woke and just wouldn't make good wives in my opinion. I'm sure there are exceptions like 1 in 100000, but should I take that chance? At this point, the only value in women I see locally is just for hookups. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

[AmeerX]

Don't say anything about them. They're are really awesome 👍. you want an Eastern girl, be my guest.

And for God's sake, are you mad you said Western girls are only good for hook ups but truth is I love them. I knew 2 Russian women , fine they were 10+ years older than me but I value them a lot.

And I met this girl here. She took care of her husband's cousins children. So far I hate Pakistani girls more than others. I admit I avoided American girls thinking they are going to be snobs 😅. Please forgive me people.

Yes our women will be traditional, be virgins, conservative but that's not really true. They do as the Romans do. If you find a Pakistani girl in Europe, chances are she will be trying to compete with a European girl to see who is wearing shorter clothes, be hypocritical and make you feel guilty about it too. I know how my cousins are really. They can be hypocrites. They will say Pakistani men are trash and trying to get in there pants all the while trying to score a European man. Happened to two of my friends and those fools don't realize that Pakistani girls played them really nice. If you meet a Local Pakistani girl 90% of time she will be dishonest and support bribery and corruption. Even justify it too in case you are her boyfriend or husband. So, don't idolize any one Countries girl. I admit I really am good friends with a Chinese woman. She had a rough life but I know she is a good person but I am not going to generalize Chinese girls too.

So, at least your women are beautiful if nothing else. Ours look ugly inside and out both. What do you expect from them?

Every Foreign girl and woman I know of with my limited knowledge proved she was far better. If I had a choice I would have married one too. Sadly life shows us one thing and gives us something else especially Europeans. And in European, Eastern Europe, and in E. Europe Russians and Ukrainians.

Heck I did prefer a Gypsy girl over an immigrant or local Pakistani girl.

Don't get deluded take care of your women. They deserve to be appreciated for whatever they go through and still not put up with it. Feminism is not as big of a problem neither hook. Lots of European girls like traditional values

[Asker]

Eastern Europeans are Eastern women. I'm sorry, but American and British Women are horrible for the most part.

[AmeerX]

No, I know you are feeling this way but if I had one even from Britain or America, I would still say same too.

I mean come on kyyroz. Stop hating your women. They are good if not the best if you ask me 🙂.

[Asker]

They really aren't. You're free to take them. They're the most toxic, whorey women there are.

[AmeerX]

I don't regret it but if I could then I would. I did even let her have the kids adopt her religion. Work my all day everyday to keep her from needing to work same as I did do for any woman. If she has money I won't let her spend it. I would pay for dates too
You people should not think so bad about them. European women are angelic in my opinion. Too bad you don't value them like we're meant to be loved and protected and treated like princesses 🥺.
If you find a girl in your life you find weird tell them to just try their luck in my country..

[Asker]

It's simps like you who encourage their bad behaviour. If you had bad experiences with Paki women, it doesn't excuse the horrible behaviour of women from the West

[AmeerX]

Lol, now you call me a Simp. I am not a Simp if I want to treat a woman kindly. I am just telling you Paki women will be a greater hypocrite. If you want I can help you find a Paki woman and she will fall for you, and then when she has her goal of green card she will disappear quicker then you found her

[Asker]

I don't want Pakis. I'm not into Islamic women in general except to pump and dump. They are very sexually frustrated.

[AmeerX]

Kyyroz, if that's how you think of any woman then why do you even expect good from women you meet in real life. I mean I would never thought of doing this with any woman. I did rather pass if it was someone ugly then to go down her pants checking it and then telling her no.

What kind of a sick person would say pump or dump. I don't like them in general but I don't think I did ever even think about doing something like this

[Asker]

That's what they often want too. Casual sexual encounters to fulfill their physical needs. Islamic girls especially, would do anything for you in bed since they are very sexually frustrated often and want sex.

[AmeerX]

You say it as if you have been with a few lol

[Asker]

I've heard stories particularly from friends and have been led on by a few Muslim girls too, across countries. Never capitalised though. They ended up smashing other dudes I know.

[AmeerX]

But you said about Paki girls. I am curious what do you know about our girls?
Yes, immigrant girls do it quite often

[Asker]

Well I'm in England. Usually Paki girls get arranged marriages to Paki men or even their cousins often. But before they do, especially in their teens and like whatever they're like the horniest girls ever and want to experience everything. My friends told me that they are very submissive and would even eat the ass of guys if they asked if you do them good and treat them right. But yeah, they usually fling a bit before they married off to some rando.

[AmeerX]

I am speechless 😶

[AmeerX]

See but I still don't abuse them and no I don't treat them like an object

[Asker]

What? It's normal. They're sheltered and sexually repressed. So it's only normal they want to try stuff. The biggest cocksucker in my school was this girl called Zainab Qureshi. I don't know if she was Paki though. She offered to suck me off too.

[Asker]

They enjoy being treated like that since they're submissive. If you treat them like that, they do anything for you sexually.

[AmeerX]

Qureshi girls are trashy in my country too. They will try to be all prude but it's an open secret 90% of them are suckers for white men. And even Pakistani men they will do for money. Disgraceful. This does not mean it is common all round.

But like I said you were saying bad things about Western girls when in fact they are better than Pakistani girls

[Asker]

Well no. Most these girls were into black dudes too since they're hung. And no Western girls are worse.

[AmeerX]

I think if what you say was true then why is it Western countries still have been able to save there wealth. I assure you if you marry a Pakistani girl you will become poor in a single generation 90% of the time

[Asker]

Technological advancement, it's largely due to the men, not the women and the Judeo- Christian values which encouraged scientific thought. Even the Athiests in the West are deeplu rooted in those values. I wouldn't marry a Pakistani girl. Maybe an Arab. They're pretty nice.

[AmeerX]

No, you wouldn't marry anyone with pump and dump type of mind. Realize that your thought is the biggest hurdle in your relationship. You want a girl who is virgin, traditional and you think of Western girls badly but you are okay with an Arab girl. At this rate you are not going to get anyone. Lower your expectations. Your girls are by far the best. You just don't know it because you are living and seeing things mostly in a virtual environment.

[Asker]

Yes, and most western women are the pump and dump kind with double digit body counts. Arabs and East Europeans are fine.

[AmeerX]

God you are hopeless. If you find a western girl. Tell her lots of guys in Asia want them like they are. Except double digit body count. What did you expect from women if they are treated like trash :/.
We treat our women like queens and diamonds and still they turn 😔. If we treated them like you treat western girls I wonder where they would have been gone

[Asker]

Women shouldn't be treated like that. Women like men in charge, even if they deny it. It's biological. If you simp, she'll treat you like a fan. Most girls have a doubt digits here. Take them.

[AmeerX]

I like being in charge of women. I just don't see how pump and dump makes me better. I mean I don't think I didn't let any girl near a guy like that.

Think with your mind please.

They have been played with by a lot of people into thinking they love them. I don't think I did touch them before marrying them. Sure they like dating, I did date but I would not want to keep them waiting for marriage. I never did it with the girls I confessed. So,. yeah fornication might be an issue but not a bigger one if she stopped doing it for me 🙂

[Jamie05rhs]

@Kyyroz No offense, man, but you should not mention someone's name like that on a public forum. I am generally all in favor of calling out hoes, but I don't think it's right to post their names publicly. You need to have some class, man.

[AmeerX]

@Jamie05rhs he is just saying things off his back though 🤣.

And no, he is right, most Qureshi girls do as he says even in my country they have bad reputation for being too easy

[Gloree]

it's not nice to call her name here. this is public

[Jamie05rhs]

Yes. Thank you, @Gloree.

[Anonymous]

Nope.

[WonderBell99]

Not everyone will be your cup of tea, and that is okay. Now, just to be clear, I'm not from the West and there are so many men and women here who sleep around too. You cannot expect every woman you meet to be compatible with you. Sounds like you are looking for someone who is more on the conservative side. Why not try looking for women who match your values?

Where do you live? From what I know, every city has both conservative and liberal women. Heck, my city is filled with both conservative and liberal people. It's as though each and every one you meet has wildly different beliefs.

I'm not sure whether there is a nice way to put this, but from what I've read so far, it seems like you are letting your past prejudices and experiences be the judge of every individual you meet. Each and every person you meet is different. Don't label all women in your town or city or state or whatever your country is, as "not wife material" because that is not true. How are there so many married people then?

You know what the problem is? "At this point, the only value in women I see locally is just for hookups." This line of yours, right here. With this mindset, I assure you, even the most wife material woman you meet will not be the one for you. I'm not asking you to lower your standards or let go of your beliefs, I'm just asking you to treat an individual as an individual without any prejudices that you may have of them.

In most of your replies, I'm only seeing statistics that were copied off of the internet. Go on dates, meet with different women, try to get to know them. Focus less on dating and more on getting to know different people.

[Asker]

I realise that it seems like I'm demeaning women. I'm not. Most women I've met, educated women, women in Universities are only interest in casual relationships. No one wants to commit. There are many married people.. up to
90% of which get divorced. I've never hooked up with a female. Ever. I'm in London. I've not met a single white/mixed woman who had similar values. I've dated quite a few too and my prejudices were confirmed over and over. I'm sure there are exceptions. I've not found any. Nor has my friends. They're settling.

[WonderBell99]

Being the daughter of 2 married people who despise each other, let me tell you, getting a divorce is way better than staying in a miserable marriage. Why do you think divorce rates in the East are very low? Because of social stigma. Both my parents are surgeons, and they have a reputation to uphold, an extended family to answer to if they ever get a divorce. If everyone minded their own business here, the divorce rates would be similar to that of the West.

The West does not consist only of Caucasians. It also has black, middle eastern, south Asian, east Asian and hispanic people.

Those "quite a few" do not make up the whole female population of London, does it? Think of me as a good friend of yours and go out, meet different people and get to know them. Do not meet people with the sole intention of dating them. You're only 20, that's young.

[WonderBell99]

think of me as a good friend of yours and take my advice*

[Asker]

Again, as part of my University studies, events, clubs and work, I've met countless women. So has my friend group. Not ONE they've found to be decent. Yes, there are decent ones. Asians, Eastern Europeans, Africans. Precisely my point. I can only speak from experience and evidence. I'm sure social stigma plays a part, but most divorces in the West aren't due to abuse. It's more superficial.

[Asker]

And yes, I'll obviously take your advice, I'm still meeting people. Still, my mind remains unchanged.

[WonderBell99]

Well, I think my part here is done. This conversation doesn't seem to go anywhere, but I do hope you find a lovely woman you can see a future with.

Have a glorious day!

[Asker]

It's okay. You tried, the evidence and reality just don't support your position. Idealism isn't reality I'm afraid... you have a nice day too :)

[WonderBell99]

Hmm, not exactly. I just value my time and patience, and I do not waste them on people who do not have an open mind. I went through your other threads and all of them only lead to pointless squabbles. I certainly am not up for such tomfoolery.

[PrettyPriya]

Aren't you a ball of sunshine? Women to you are only worth sex is what it comes down to. Not being western myself, I cannot speak on the typical western woman. I know some and they are great girls. They are thoughtful, kind and respectful. I have really enjoyed getting to know some of these women here on GaG.

In the real world? I don't know. I married a western man. He is Aussie. I don't know what his salary has to do with anything. I didn't have a clue what he earned until we were very serious. Sure, I could have made an educated guess, but that is all it would have been.

Sounds like you are meeting the wrong women. To lump all western or any geographic location into one stereotype isn't really far. I can do the same thing I suppose if you want me to.

I can say something like all western men complain and whine about not finding good women. Now, is that true? No. Just because of my experience here with the whiney guys that hate women because of their own faults doesn't mean I should include you and the rest of the male western population, should I?

[Asker]

I never said "all" women. I said there are exceptions but this is the rule. If you want literal scientific statistics to back up that statement, besides my own experiences, I would gladly oblige. I never asked if western women were "thoughtful, kind and respectful". If you think salary has no place in a marriage that involves children potentially... please be honest to yourself. Stereotypes often exist because they're somewhat true in the larger base. Exceptions do not make the rule. Again, if you would rather accept numbers on my claims, I'd be happy to provide them too. Please ask. If you have any actual advice instead of offhanded comments and deflection, please let me know too. Thanks.

[Agape93]

If you have those numbers, why didn't you include them in the first place? Could it be that you had none, and are now searching for said info on a poorly researched Google search result?

[Asker]

Because this is a basic common sense question that usually wouldn't need stats? Do you need statistics that back up these claims or no? Where else am I supposed to find data? On your mum's basement like dude...

[Agape93]

Nonsense isn't common sense. Usually if you make a claim, you back it up with evidence. You have not, only claims and claims to have said evidence.

"Whrre else am I supposed to find data?"

Lmao I love how you admitted your data was from a poorly researched Google result xD

[PrettyPriya]

":If you want literal scientific statistics to back up that statement, besides my own experiences, I would gladly oblige."

"Again, if you would rather accept numbers on my claims, I'd be happy to provide them too."

We are waiting...

[Agape93]

I wonder how long his rapid bad research is going to take lol

[Asker]

On average, people who live in the United States have between 10 and 11 sexual partners during the course of their lives. With the average age of first time at 17. Source :
Women initiate up to 90% of divorces. fooc400,000 people in the United States receiving post-divorce spousal maintenance, just 3%we re men.

[Asker]

Again, each of these studies are based on peer reviewed journals and surveys. If you need the sources, I'd be happy to send the link to your chat as I am unable to paste links here. Now, please, talk.

[Agape93]

Lmao no links, just more claims then xD people post links all the fucking time on here, shit I do it several times a week. Try again kiddo

[Asker]

Yes, you can. Because your level is high. You need to be level 3 to post links. If you paste the text into the search engine, you should be able to get to the link of the sources.

[PrettyPriya]

@Agape93 Couldn't even name the source. I don't doubt women initiate divorce more in the US. Says a lot about the guys though 🤣

[Agape93]

Yeap lmao xD

[Asker]

See? When you get backed into a corner, you lot shift the blame and laugh at men, while expecting us to take a shit deal. Would anyone play lottery with their life that has up to 90% of failure? You can't even have a discussion without being condescending and rude. Thank you. You've only cemented by beliefs :)

[PrettyPriya]

I guess thank goodness I am Asian. I guess I have more "value" 🙂

[Agape93]

Lmfao xD still can't even provide a link xD even two bit incels can post links to stupid shit, you can't even do that. No wonder you can't get a woman.

[Agape93]

"Oh there are a lot of exceptions in Asia too. You'd be one of them. Your poor husband..."
Ah yes attacking peioles spouses, how manly of you lol

[Asker]

Oh here we go with personal insults now. As they say, slander is the tool of a loser.

[Asker]

And I didn't attack him, it was pity as a fellow man.

[Agape93]

Suuuure it was lol you slander entire populations, you slander us, and you can't handle it?
Also mocking your character isn't slander. Slander requires a claim that isn't true.

[Agape93]

Also, slander is only verbal. Some education for you.

[PrettyPriya]

My husband is perfectly happy. Just checked with him. 🙂

[Asker]

Tell that to me again in about 10 years... at most.

[Agape93]

Funny from the only one that's single here lol let me know in 10 years if you manage to con someone into liking you

[Asker]

Oh I've no problem with that. Getting girls isn't that hard. Especially in Uni. Tons of thots want you...

[Agape93]

Sure, but they don't want you lol that's why you're bitching on here

[PrettyPriya]

Not to mention you just admitted (again) that you use girls. That is pathetic.

[Asker]

I said getting them isn't hard. Not that I use them. Apples and oranges. I know you're mad that you couldn't win this argument so you're trying hard to twist my words to feel like you've got one over me. But I'm blameless. Try again.

[Agape93]

Lmfao xD hard to lose an argument when you have yet to prove any evidence for your claims at all xD

[Asker]

And no, they do. They've tried to smash and date me too. On several occasions. Especially since I'm decent physically, box, got money and am pretty intelligent. They also seem to like my snarky side all in all. So I don't really have a problem attracting women. It's pretty easy.

[Agape93]

Lmao uh huh, sure they did xD another claim without evidence

[Agape93]

Next you're going to lie and say they wanted to marry you xD at least Priyas husband is real, happy and knows how to do basic research xD

[Asker]

I don't need to prove that you. Nor is it your concern. Because I'd never date a thing like you. So it's irrelevant to me what you think of who I can pull.

[PrettyPriya]

@Agape93 Not bad for a koala, eh?

[Asker]

Well.. like I said. I pity him. He really settled... unless he's like a degenerate on the same level then it is cool. Either way, it isn't my concern.

[Agape93]

Lmao so many claims, no evidence despite saying you would provide it xD

Lmao honey, my shower head is more datable than you xD

[Agape93]

Lmao how did he settle exactly? He's leagues better than you lol

[PrettyPriya]

True that. He runs his own successful business, highly educated, healthy and a wonderful man. I will only give you this one warning to stop insulting my husband. There will not be a second.

[Asker]

Oh I'm sure he might be. That's why I said he may have settled. And sure. It's okay. I'm happy you don't consider me dating material. I consider it a compliment... I mean... imagine having to deal with this every day...

[Asker]

May I also warn you to stop insulting me? You hit me, I hit where it hurts. Simple. Stick to logic and there wouldn't be a problem. Simple. There won't be another warning.

[Agape93]

Lol he didn't settle xD like I said, he's leagues better than you could ever be. So is she, honestly

Lol I couldn't imagine much worse than dealing with you daily, my god xD

[Asker]

Again Agape, it's okay. I'm content with you not thinking I'm not up for it. Thank you.

[Agape93]

Lol glad to hear. Not the only thing you're not "up" for.

[Agape93]

But hey. We all have our faults

[PrettyPriya]

Where have I insulted you?

[Asker]

"Says a lot about you guys", misinformed claim about me "using" girls. "Women to you are only worth sex". As someone who has never used women for sex, I consider all these baseless comments deeply offensive.

[Agape93]

XD lmao none of those are insults xD

[Asker]

Using people for sex is something I feel strongly against personally and I believe I iterated that early on. If you can offend me with falsified claims of how I "used" girls, I can give you a taste of your own medicine too.

[Asker]

Nor is pity a direct insult? Why are you butting in Agape? That comment was not directed towards you. Stay in your place.

[Agape93]

Lol my place is where I decide it is, not you.

And nope it's not an insult lol second word you clearly don't know the meaning of.

[Asker]

Yes. Within your own territory. Not mine. Who hurt you?

[Agape93]

My territory is this world, so you get out of MY territory lol

[PrettyPriya]

Hahaha at least I got a good laugh tonight.

"Getting girls isn't that hard. Especially in Uni. Tons of thots want you..."

Definition:

a woman who has many casual sexual encounters or relationships.

Now, I wonder why you would want a girl like this versus someone to commit to. Is it possible you are *gasp* using them for sex? 🤯

[Agape93]

Oh my gaaawwwwd, the logic!

[PrettyPriya]

@Agape93 The magic of education...

[Agape93]

I wonder when he will get one too.

[Asker]

Or Priya... these thots disguise themselves as decent women early in the relationship and then they blurt out stuff from their past/ you hear things which they do not deny/ try to engage in sexual activity with you early on. Have you considered that angle? People lie and cheat. I know it might be a shock to you. I'm very careful with the wording I use. Just because those women want you, doesn't mean you sleep with them. Such a shocker. Right?

[Agape93]

Lmao except they don't even want you. And careful with words? Bruh you didn't even know what slander or insult was xD

[Agape93]

But hey, no need to worry. Our partners are good 😏 happy and no desire to cheat from either

[Asker]

Agape... I've nothing more to say to you. You sound pretty turned on since you are actively butting into a responses directed to Priya. Are you sure I'm not your type? You clearly seem into me personally...

[Agape93]

Lmao nah I'm good xD if I want dick, I'll get a man. But like I said, this is my territory. I'll stay :)

[Asker]

Yup. A man to you, is just dick... I see. Would you consider this comment about "using men and devaluing them to only their genitals" Priya? Just curious to see if you're consistent enough to condemn it or if you are a coward. 😊

[Agape93]

Lmao xD reading comprehension is shit too. I said if I wanted a dick, I'd get a man. Last time I checked, women don't have dicks xD how is this male devaluation xD

[Asker]

Women don't have dicks? Transphobia too. Priya? No condemnation? You're the "influencer".

[Asker]

What a transphobic comment Agape. Shame on you. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[Agape93]

Lmao xD you're really reaching xD besides, you don't get to bitch when you literally attacked someone's husband twice xD probably just scared of people with a backbone who have better relationships and partners than you could hope for.

[Asker]

Aaaand back to personal devaluation again. Gotcha. Checkmate. Waiting for your condemnation @PrettyPriya

[Agape93]

Lmfao make that 3 words you now clearly don't know the meaning of

[Asker]

I'm sorry, I respect Trans people. Trans women have dicks. Transphobes like you Agape, need to be cancelled. Reee.

[Agape93]

Lmao xD a sexist calling me a transphobe is rich 🤣
Also to educate you again, a phobe, or phobia, requires fear by definition. I don't fear anyone xD

[Asker]

Come on Priya, enlighten her if "Transphobia" only means you are scared of transpeople. See how she bailed Agape? She knows if she gets in this again, she'd be a hypocrite. 😊

[Agape93]

Lmao bruh,. Google what a phobia is and then tell me what it says

[Asker]

Thought you didn't like "Google research". Google if transphobia only means the "irrational fear of trans people". Rejecting that trans women have penises would be considered a very transphobic statement. Apologise to the trans community. Pride FTW baeee.

[Agape93]

Lmao again reading comprehension sucks it seems. I was mocking your bad Google research, which you admitted was bad xD

Lol Honey what do you think phobia means? It means an irrational fear. So transphobia is literally an irrational fear of Trans people.

Lmao nothing to apologize for. XD

[Agape93]

XD she probably muted this xD doubt she's coming back

[Asker]

@PrettyPriya Where are you? Got nothing to say? Where did all the feistiness go? Your friend here, refuses to apologise for and stands by her transphobic statement. Hypocrite.

[Agape93]

Lmao yelling to a person who has this muted is hilarious xD my god, sexists these days are hilarious

[Asker]

Oh she wouldn't if she knew what's good for her :) This is how you crush a Lion in her own den. Take Notes. And as for you Agape, you're hardly a threat to me. I see you more like a... joke I like to toy with. You've been very entertaining. Thank you. 😊

[Asker]

Entertain me more. Got anything else to say Agape?

[Agape93]

Lmao xD what did you crush exactly? XD you've been fucking up constantly on here xD goddamn this shit is funny

[Asker]

I asked for more entertainment. Give me that. Laugh at yourself later.

[Agape93]

Lmao. Someone seems a bit salty. Jealous that her husband is likely railing her at this moment. You know, in a dedicated happy relationship, despite your insults about him

[Asker]

Eh... why would I care if a randos husband maybe sleeping with her? Make it make sense. My life is my only concern. I need to bother myself with others. Not entertaining enough. 4/10. Give me another one.

[Agape93]

Lmao you clearly cared enough to insult both of them repeatedly.

[Agape93]

My my, insults people repeatedly, demands morality, but does not apologize to an innocent man. Tsk tsk

[Asker]

Pity isn't an insult. I pity any man you may be with too. I feel sad for them. They could do so much better...

[Agape93]

Lmao xD why would you even pity him? And when did I say pity was the insult?

[Asker]

A bunch of reasons I wouldn't like to disclose which I inferred from my little conversation with her in the chats and common sense associated with the same. Similar reasons for you too. At least she's a bit more respectable. I respect her for that, although she can be snarky. You're just rude and worse overall.

[Agape93]

Won't disclose, because you have no reasoning xD you only claim to have it.

You're right I am much worse. How bad am I?

[Asker]

No, she's not here anymore and has taken herself out of the convo. So I wouldn't like to speak on her further. And as for your negative qualities those are my personal perspectives. You may think you're "all that". And that's fine. You're pretty terrible. Likely a 304, likely to die alone with a bunch of cats. Hopefully you don't. I pity you too.

[Agape93]

You haven't had any issue until now about talking about people who aren't here, so that's bullshit lol.

Lmao I never even implied I'm all that.

Lmfao xD a fat cat lady xD I get plenty of pussy, but no cats xD

[Asker]

Please stop bragging about how gross you are. It's really not helping your case. So sad...

[Asker]

You're 30 right? Give it 10-15 years. Probably less. The clock is ticking. 😊

[Agape93]

Lmao clock is ticking for what? XD

[Asker]

You'll see. The wall never fails.

[Agape93]

All walls fail in time:) 90 years old and I'll still get more pussy than you.

[Asker]

Yeah... I don't see value in using women for sex, so I'm good. I think its gross. I'm cool with a stable pussy. I'll get that either way... because I always get what I want one way or another. If I wanted your pussy, I'd buy it. You seem like the type to sell anyway.

[Agape93]

Lmfao yeah, only pussy you could get is at the animal shelters adoption area.

Lmao you couldn't afford my pussy even if I gave you that privilege

[Asker]

Eh. Yeah sure. So, how much?

[Agape93]

How much you got? Lmao

[Asker]

Name your price.

[Agape93]

Your soul, 50 years off your lifespan and every dime you got

[Asker]

No one pays in gold for a toyota corolla. Be realistic. Locals charge 50 quid an hour around here. So how about 25? Half a 304

[Agape93]

No deal, and we aren't dealing in cars and gold homeboy lol you can't afford me, that's fine. Priya and her husband are my top bidders 😏

[Asker]

Yeah I'm like that... I only bid what things are realistically worth. I do good business. If they want to take you on a net loss, they can. You're not worth more than that for me.

[Agape93]

Lmao so in other words, you can only afford drunken college kids or dollar store hookers. Not surprised, you have nothing worth someone's interest

[Asker]

Yup. That's why I asked this dollar store hooker how much she usually charges.

[Agape93]

Lmfao xD I figured you were that broke

[Asker]

That's how the rich stay rich. We're usually stingey with our cash. So, how much for an hour?

[Agape93]

Lol you're not rich, so that doesn't apply to you.

Your soul, 50 years off your life span and every dime you have :)

[Asker]

Yeah. That's just a terrible deal. I can get a 10 for 1k an hour. Why would I spend so much for an unattractive 30 year old with daddy issues? 27. Final offer.

[Agape93]

Lmao nope. Look I get it, you're broke as fuck, but work with me here, I'm getting the shit end of the deal

[Asker]

Yeaaah I'm good. Stop trying to upsell used goods. It's cool. Others can have it for tinkering.

[Agape93]

Damn you're really that poor? So sad. But that's ok Priya and her husband accepted the offer :) at least now I wouldn't be slumming it with you

[Asker]

You're all they can afford? That's sad. How did you trick them into paying that much? Teach me how to upsell and lie like that too.

[Agape93]

Oh they can afford. me every day of the year if they wanted me, for non assholes like them, it's a one time fee.

Oh you have the lying down pat. But until you can be convincing, you couldn't upsell tap water to someone with heat stroke

[Asker]

Oh. The last snark was a good one. I laughed at that. So you're that cheap afterall... just like I thought.

[Agape93]

Cheap and your ass still couldn't afford me lol how's it feel to be that broke

[Asker]

Wouldn't know. The closest thing I've felt to being broke is when I fast before a fight to get set lol.

[Agape93]

So you're not self aware? Oh you poor summer child

[Asker]

Well in any case, who knows what diseases you carry in that coochie. Forget I asked lol

[Agape93]

None actually, tested and certified. :) like you, I don't pass on diseases. Unlike you, however, I'll get laid tonight

[Asker]

Dude. This is the age of tinder and nightclubs. Getting laid really isn't difficult. You act as if it is something to brag about. It's gross. Also, it's only a matter of time before you catch something.

[Agape93]

It's easy, sure, but it's not something you'll ever get to experience.

Hey that's fine. I get something that can't be cured, I take an exit from the game of life. :)

[Asker]

Oh you don't need to worry about that. I'll be fine 😊

[Agape93]

No need to worry about something that doesn't exist. Diseases are sadly all too real. But at least offing myself will sure as hell fix the issue

[Asker]

Like I said earlier... so sad, so gross. I could be a manslut and smash more pussy than you'll ever see. You can never become a good wife. That's the difference between you and me.

[Agape93]

I highly doubt you could even get your hand to consent lol and what on earth makes you think I want to be a wife? Lol

[Asker]

You couldn't. Even if you tried. That's the difference. 😊✌️

[Agape93]

Lol difference between what

[Asker]

A hoe and a human.

[Agape93]

A garden tool and me? Who marries a gardening tool lol

[Asker]

You know what you are. I don't need to say more :)

[Agape93]

No, I don't. Enlighten me :)

[Agape93]

I'm waiting

[Asker]

Sorry for the late reply. Had to go for my run. I need to keep it up or my cardiac fitness will go down. But yeah a 304.

[Agape93]

What on earth is a 304?

[Asker]

Oh sorry, you're from a different, older generation aren't you? Get a calculator and enter 304, flip it and you get hoe

[Genie23]

You shouldn't assume that every woman living in the west won't make good wives. There's always going to be some women and men in every city/town that aren't good wife/husband material, but that doesn't mean every people around them aren't worth making efforts for and being with. Be it in the west or the east.

[Asker]

I agree that there are exceptions. I really do. But the vast majority of Western Women have high body counts and wouldn't make good wives, not to mention up to 90% chance of divorce. Why would anyone take such terrible odds? I'd love to find someone nice locally but that's too risky.

[Asker]

I could automatically say you were Eastern even without looking at your picture from your comment. You'd likely have a strong maternal instinct too. This is what I want and can't find in the West.

[Genie23]

Let me tell you something. Many women from easy also have slept with number of guys too. Like I said whether someone is a good partner material or not depends on individual not where they are from. Because I've seen some reserved/conservative people everywhere. Hope you find someone that meets your expectations and you could trust somebody.

Yes, I do have that but I'm not from east. I'm from south

[Asker]

Well yes. By East, I mean Eastern Europe to anywhere in Asia. Let me guess, your body count is very low to zero, you want kids, you don't hate men, you are pretty family oriented, you're not an Athiest/ might even be quite religious, you like caring for people. Now, these are all wild guesses, how many have I got right? I'd imagine most/all of them.

[OlderAndWiser]

The latest estimate is 167,000,000 females in the US population. Maybe 25% of them are minors, so that makes 125,000,000 females. 62% of US adults are married ot cohabiting, so that means perhaps 47,500,000 females old enough and available to date. If only 1 in 100,000 s a decent woman, that means there are 475 decent single women in the US, or an average of 9.5 decent, single adult women per state.

Do you want to persist with this nonsense?

[bamesjond0069]

That sounds about right to me actually.

[Soldieronamission]

Wow great info!

It's sad to stereotype western women in such a way. I'm a white guy married to an ethnic American born conservative women who is an amazing mother and does nothing but great things for our family.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Soldieronamission I've known many women who I thought were great people. I think I've known more than 9.5 in the state of Florida!

[bamesjond0069]

@OlderAndWiser great people =/= marriage able women

[Soldieronamission]

Haha exactly!

[OlderAndWiser]

@bamesjond0069 You're right. There are only 475 women in the US worth marrying.

[Asker]

That was a hyperbole. Let's say 10% of that 100,000. And that's being generous. It isn't like your times grandpa. Times have changed.

[OlderAndWiser]

You are going to make condescending comments about age as part of your argument?

[bamesjond0069]

I think he's just used to older generation being rude to him because my experience anyways from most older men is just "man up. Do the right thing" with zero explanation or consideration of the issues men today are facing.

It's the men in your generation who created more relaxed standards leaning on society to make it work. But we no longer have society to lean on. y'all could marry a woman who wasn't quite the best wife and society would encourage her to do better. Now society encourages women to do worse so only the pinnacle of wifery is a suitable wife since she must also be strong enough to say no to her friends her family workplace TV legal system everyone.

[Guy13]

I hear you and about the only conservative, attractive, and traditional family people I can find is Asia.

[Asker]

Well, Eastern Europe is fine to an extent too, Asia and Africa is the best in my opinion though.

[JamesDiaz11]

I don't think you're wrong. You have a proportionally far higher chance of finding a girl of marriage quality overseas, but if you want to stay within the US you can start going to church and see what that nets you?

The problem with international dating is that there is a steep cultural difference. I was engaged to a girl who was born and raised in Vietnam and so many of the similarities and understandings you can have with someone born in the US are lost on them. Movies and TV shows you had growing up, and other things you take for granted you'll find differences that may cause conflict.

[Asker]

I'm willing to put up with what instead of trying to love "born again" virgins from Church. That's what most girls I've seen from Church are. Maybe you've had a different experience.

[JamesDiaz11]

I'm currently dating a virgin who is a big church goer, but I completely get your point. It's ridiculous for a girl who has gotten her cheeks clapped NSA to claim Jesus and expect to be treated like a virgin- I'd never do it.
I'm not suggesting one way or another, but if you date some girl from a relatively poor background not only will your money be her primary motive, but she may change quite a bit after you get married (this is only from what I've heard). For example, filipino girls will likely want you to support their family, which is annoying.

[Asker]

Well, I've actually got Asian descent partly so I'm aware. There are girls in my extended family circles who I've grew up with who like me. They're not poor either and they're educated. Their families are stable too. You've lucked out. I truly hope your marriage lasts. But most Church girls are messed up.

[Miristheiss]

Marriage? Western women?

No. Why sign your assets, 401K, real estate to someone else for this lousy deal when they file for divorce 60-70% of the time and people being entitled and selfish is at an all time high? Why sign up for a legal contract that could legally require you to pay alimony to another adult 60-70% of the time?

No way.

[Asker]

Precisely my thought. I'm not hating on women. It's just a shit deal for the average western man dating in the West

[msc545]

Exactly correct.

[Anemone978]

You do know you can leave a bitch and never sign the divorce papers.. just move out of town LOL

[msc545]

@Anemone978 You do know that violating court orders can be criminal, yes?

[Anemone978]

@msc545 lol yes.. and they ain't really gonna do anything over a divorce... half the time they don't even look for real criminal's

[msc545]

@Anemone978 Where I live they do look.

[Anemone978]

@msc545 I was only joking anyways but guys are so negative when it comes to marriage lol

[Asker]

It can destroy a guys' life completely dude... so we need to be serious. Marriage laws in the West are a scam.

[Anemone978]

Interesting.. I never got divorced I just left and left everything behind to start a new life by myself..
Never thought to mess over my husband because I will make my own way... its not like I hate him either so yeah...

But I guess for guys it is dangerous but just get a prenup

[Asker]

You're a good woman then. Sadly it isn't the case with many these days.

[msc545]

THIS !!

[BlackBeauty90]

@Kyyroz - Monopoly money doesn't count, just so you're aware. As for your question there are western women who make suitable wives you're likely like most men looking for a wife... thinking you'll find her at a hooker's hangout (a club or bar). As for eastern women unless they're a mail order bride with little to no say most eastern women really don't care for western men because you lack culture, you lack sophistication, and a lot of other things. The average eastern woman is someone eastern men don't want.

[BlackBeauty90]

*the average eastern woman married to a western man is someone eastern men typically don't want. Either as said mail order - so essentially a traded slave. Comes from an undesirable social group. Has bad family history, etc. The east is FAR more complex than western society for who is dating or marriagable material and western men stupidly believe they're getting a "catch" when they're getting east's dregs.

[Asker]

If you think a student of Cyber Security with several published research papers and a job offer from Meta under his kitty, isn't able to hit 100k minimum... I'm afraid your mind needs tinkering. I'm well aware of my potential and standing in the world. Now, I don't look for women in hookers hangouts. I've never been to those sort of places. I'm not fond of making whores a wife. I've Eastern Roots. So it's not like I can't move as my job goes remote and find someone. But, glad you agree that a lot of western women are no different from hookers. Thanks.

[BlackBeauty90]

ROFL your mind needs adjustments kiddo. If you were that successful you would be more intelligent than to spend time on this site full of imbeciles and incels and general society rejects.

[Asker]

By that same logic, you're hanging around the same group too. What does that make you?

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz I hang around the site for the amusment. Like you. You saying you have eastern roots means jackshit nothing. You're Americanized & as undesirable to GOOD eastern women as much as day's old dog poop would be.

[Asker]

Oh I've no worries about that. I'll be fine. I always get what I want, one way or another. 😊

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz - ROFL. Enjoy your bought slave maid order bride. That'd be about the only sort of low class / low quality woman who'd tolerate a child in a man's body.

[Asker]

Better than a thot anyday. Less of a risk.

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz - I'm not American. ROFL. I grew up in Europe where the standards & expectations are far superior than your dumpy little country.

[Asker]

And hookers on "dates" you pay for meals to fuck. Better than them too.

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz - I thought you said you had some intelligence. Try to prove it by comprehending what I'm saying

I'm not American. ROFL. I grew up in Europe where the standards & expectations are far superior than your dumpy little country.

[Asker]

Did I say I'm American anywhere? I'm also European. What will you say now? Go back to your bin.

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz - ROFL. If you were European you wouldn't be whining like the countless whiny Americans on this site. What make believe country are you from?

[Asker]

Find out for yourself if you're so interested from my previous replies on this thread. You're a woman whose hit the wall. I've nothing more to say to you. Scram.

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz - ah so you're NOT European. ROFL. See the differences between trashy American men like you and real men from Europe is European men don't whine about the same thing trashy American men do. Depending on the country - such as Serbia or Bulgeria or Russia - some men would rather cut off their dick than whine like a stupid American.

[Asker]

Feel free to vent more. I think some American pumped and dumped you maybe. I'm not interested in carrying a convo with a dried pussy so... I've nothing more to say to you.

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz - ROFL. American you don't even have the intelligence to check my profile, says Switzerland do you know where that country is? Probably not as you obviously failed college.

[Asker]

I didn't check it because I don't care about you. You are irrelevant.

[BlackBeauty90]

@kyyroz - sort of like you are in real life, huh, American? Uneducated, lower class society, coming onto this form to pretend you're someone special when you're not. It is amusing & it's people like you why I stay on this forum of social rejects.

[Asker]

I'm not from America, I'm from London, South London to be Precise. I attend a very prestigious University in the North. A Russell Group University to be precise, studying Bsc Cyber Security and working in a certain institution as Treasurer and in another as a S. O. I've no need to prove any of these statements to you, but take it as you will.

[Lionman95]

I wouldn´t say most because I don´t know all of them. But I find it hypocritical if you complain that women have a high body count and at the same time you just consider worth hook-up. Like imagine all the guys in your generation argue like this that would mean that it´s no wonder women have a high body count.
I think you could find a woman to marry if you can show her by your deeds that you can be held accountable to the standards you expect her to fulfill.
It may take time but at the end it can workout but it´s work. I´m not yet married myself but I know quite a few guys that have been for some years and they never had problems so far.
I think your problem could be that you start dating with false perceptions since if you expect all women to be trashy it´s unlikely that a woman will surpass your expectations.

[-Mad-]

From what I see from tv shows and g@g guys I would say No!

but I don’t know them in person to make this a complete judgement.

I’m religious and a virgin and they are the opposite of that and its hard for me to accept such relationship.

[Asker]

You shouldn't. Leave them be to be used up by guys as they wish, find someone nice from the East after you build yourself up and marry them. I assure you, life would be less of a hassle.

[-Mad-]

Thanks for the advice

[Lalalove11]

Well I'm a Conservative female with traditional family values and yes we do exist in the West but we do seem to be becoming increasingly rare. I find there are more of us in rural areas. Avoid the urbanised areas that attract vapid people who have no sense of true culture or nationality. These people gravitate to the big globalist capitals generally.

[bamesjond0069]

I agree. I thought I'd be married with kids by now but the last marriagable woman I met was over 10 years ago. And I date a lot.

What I've decided for myself is to have multiple girlfriends. Makes up for the fact they all have one failing or another making them unmariagable.

Liberal society breeds polygyny (ie one man multiple women). So here we are. This is my intention. I'm also quite skilled in handling difficult women so I'm comfortable enough with this option.

I've hear both good and bad things about going abroad. Good that yes the women are way better. Bad that if you bring them to America they have a high chance to turn bad. I personally know one couple like this and she turned bad pretty quick. I've heard don't marry and bring her back, move to her country and build a life there.

[Agape93]

I have a alternate question. Are men worth pursing in any sexual or romantic relationships anymore? After all I get more orgasms from women, I get more respect from women, I don't get pushed on by women etc.

What do guys bring to the table except a dick they barely know how to use at all?

[Asker]

Honestly, if you are a woman who is a lesbian and would prefer to date a woman, go right ahead by all means. There are more women than there are men anyway. Also, I hope you realise how deeply sexist your comment is. Then again, I guess it isn't "sexism" when women do it.

[Agape93]

Ah so you caught on. Funny how you point out sexism in others comments, but you cannot see the sexist ideas in what you said.

[Asker]

What did I say that was sexist? Please show me. Also, even if I was, do you think two wrongs make a right?

[Agape93]

Saying your local women are only good for hookups and women different than what you personally like are obnoxious and unable to be good wives save for maybe 1 in 100,000.

Who said I was making a right? I didn't, I was making a point and you helped prove it.

[Asker]

Is that not the case? What percentage of women you've met were willing to be married in their early to mid 20s? I can assure you, 1 in ten would be lucky. It's quite easy to refute me. Show me some "good research" in favour of the wifeability of western women, that opposes my experiences and bodycounts/divorce statistics.

[Agape93]

Lol you haven't even proven or showed any actual evidence to support your claim. No need to fight nonsense xD

[Asker]

I've made a claim. Do you have any evidence to support your position? Since you're able to paste links anyway... you should be able to. Okay forget about all that. Are you wife material?

[Agape93]

Lmao you made a claim with 0 evidence, I have no need to make a claim or provide evidence when nothing on your end exists yet. That's like you claiming bigfoot is real, me saying that's nonsense, then you listing quotes from a blog and demanding my evidence xD

[TheSpaceGnome]

I've not found any my age that are, at least ones that weren't already snatched up. But thats highly based on my own personal preferences regarding personality and hobbies in women, and despite this, I'm still looking for the exception, because I don't want immigration taking my future wife away to do some stupid legal change.

[jshm2]

Of course you are wrong, and being a dick about it to boot.

High earning does not make you a high value husband. That is something that seems lost on you. I know plenty of 8 and above figure earning professionals that are great at their job - but shit in relationships.

Business and career are a very different thing from family and relationships.

[Asker]

Well I agree. Both aren't synonymous. But a decent wage does open up much more options for you in the dating market, particularly in marriage. How am I wrong? Are you claiming that the majority of western women are worth pursuing for marriage?

[Anonymous]

I am from India, in terms of behavior western girls are far better and more polite than Indian girls. At least the ones I tend to meet, although they are not typical western girls but highly educated ones.

Indian girls to expect only date a guy with a huge bank account and way worse than western girls. Plus it's a lie that conservative girls aren't promiscuous, as per surveys Indian girls have a much higher body counts than guys on average. Plus they are highly arrogant and condescending to even have a normal conversation, in comparison my experience with western white women is far better. They are a great friend to me, smarter than Indian once and my Swedish American girlfriend is much better than Indin once as a human being.

[Asker]

Swedish? She's likely banged her entire town.

[Opinion Owner]

She's really smart and is a grad student in a top US uni like me, we both enjoy nerdy time together, so not so stupid to sleep around with everyone around you. Perhaps for you, it's hard to imagine. Anyways there are more qualities in a woman than just sex for relationships. She will earn more eventually , her family is richer than mine and she's a good person who treats me better that's all I want. Conservative girls just leech you out and still can be secretly slutty, cheat on you, and treat you horribly. As a guy I offer more than just being a wallet and expect girls to bring more than sex on the table, that's never possible for conservative girls. That's why they are good with conservative, less-educated guys only.

[Asker]

Well if she doesn't sleep around, she is by definition conservative. That is a conservative quality. What's her body count? Let me guess... double digits at least?

[Opinion Owner]

Some people can be busy in their life doing and enjoying other things in life other than just sex, you don't have any idea of conservative or non-conservative. Conservative people are supposed to be generally religious, more into home and community, husband-obeying type, and dress ethnically, it's a lifestyle, not just about sleeping around.
If you want to date eastern European /Asian girls go ahead. That doesn't mean it will be good. I know more than enough that girls who married danish guys for money/passports and made their life miserable, are now divorced and crying on social. in the recent crisis, many skin women destroyed relationships in the UK and other countries of Europe and left those guys. More than 50% of rape and abuse cases are falsely done by Indian women. Be careful what you wish for.

[Asker]

You didn't answer my question. What's her body count? Not all conservatives are religious, they are more into home and community, they don't have to "obey" their husbands nor dress ethnically, more like ethically. Being Liberal is about sleeping around, usually athiestic, general lack of morals and ethics as well. So again, what's her body count?

[Opinion Owner]

I never asked so far and don't intend to... you seem too obsessed over others body count

[Asker]

Lol. See my point? Just ask for fun. I bet you, your so called "non slutty" girlfriend, would at least be in double digits. MINIMUM. 😅🤣

[Opinion Owner]

It doesn't matter to me, I had relationships too in past and we are both still very young.

[Asker]

Ah. A cuck. Nice.

[Opinion Owner]

My dating standards are way higher just other than sex, she's better looking than many actresses, and both of us are in ivy league institute. Both of us will ever even date people less educated, without potential or garbage like you. You have no idea of a relationship or what a cuck means. I guess you never even finished high school.

[Asker]

It doesn't matter for shit if you are with a hoe. Gold ring on a pigs snout.

[wysiwyg2525]

Marriage is a thing of the past. Why do you need a piece of paper to complicate things. If your relationship is going good, then why get married. It's expensive especially if you get divorced 2 years later. Is it worth loosing half of everything you own. Marriage makes a great TV Series. Its all about that drama.

[Anonymous]

If you're concerned about body counts, search for an Asian girl, she will have a less body count and mostly you will find virgin girls whom you might like to marry

[Asker]

Yup. I know. Asian Women are amazing. A lot of them are wife material for sure and very loyal.

[lightbulb27]

Yes, but it's not so much western but "values". I think a lot of people are "corrupted", selfish, making bad choices. Those people... will be a different challenge than someone raised to higher standards.

[Anonymous]

The long and the short of it is that if you marry someone that you love unconditionally it doesn't matter what happens with your coin because you would only ever want the best for them.

There is also no requirement to be married to have children etc so there really isn't any problem.

[Asker]

No one loves anyone unconditionally. If they do, that's toxic. There's no requirement but that is what is ideal. You didn't answer the question.

[Opinion Owner]

lol unconditional love is toxic?

Ok.

[Asker]

Yes. Ask any experienced psychologist if loving someone unconditionally is healthy or toxic. They'll tell you. Besides the shallow meaning, the only one you should love like that are your children. That too, for a certain age. That's all.

[Opinion Owner]

Not interested in the opinions of retards.

[Asker]

Here goes personal insults again. Good day.

[Anemone978]

All these guys who say women are trash its because all you choose is trash women... stop going for the skanks and you might find a decent women in the pile lol

[Asker]

Honestly, no. I've dated nerdy, innocent looking ones from Uni too. Those were the craziest. You say "find decent women" like it is an easy task lol

[Anemone978]

Hahaha well true, it is hard to find but don't give up lol

[Shamalien]

I went for the best one I could find but her head was full of teenage romance nonsense and she basically went manic depressive on me anytime there was a tiny problem. Exhausting. She was like on the verge of breaking up one day, next day saying I’m the one and she’d never leave me, few days later broke up with me. I don’t even know what to think anymore…I can see why men play women because otherwise they just sabotage everything

[ThatCanucker]

There is no advantage for a man to get married in North America. You stand to lose everything if it doesn't work out since the divorce and family courts are biased against men. The court system will have you pay to have your ex remove your kids from you.