
Obviously not all women LOL just in case you were going to type that in the comments.

Obviously not all women LOL just in case you were going to type that in the comments.
I do believe women have become very masculine these days and I will stand my ground and say it is unattractive. Now I will say why women have become more masculine is because men just don't want to lead or don't lead well enough in the woman's eyes to allow her to feel and be in her feminine.
You see women going after all these things like men used to do. Career focused, dating when they feel like and sleeping with who they want with no commitment, traveling every corner of the world, etc. Sound familiar? This is what you saw men doing. Women are acting more like men these days which naturally isn't going to sit well with many.
Men are attracted to feminine women and feminine women are attracted to masculine men. Which is why masculine men won't be in a relationship with masculine women. Why be in a continuous pissing match with a woman after dealing with a bunch of dudes who are just as riddled of energy and traits like you? Miss me with that shit.
Thing is, these masculine women do the same thing. They look for men that support their career focus, can do house work and be willing to be a family dad. In other words, the seek more feminine men or men that won't call them out or are easy to control. Sometimes that works for the relationship and sometimes the women are still miserable.
Masculine people work better as friends and business partners. Not lovers. I had a fairly masculine woman as my 1SG and she and I worked well because of what we valued and focused on in terms of goals and tasks that had to be done. She had my back and I had hers. We knew each others shortcomings and balanced each other out well so we achieved success.
In short, yes. Women become the men they ideally want as their partner because it gives them the independence and freedom to get what they want without having to rely on the men they may be with and his potential. Why be disappointed when they get guaranteed success with their own power?
Yes, and no. Women have progressed economically not because they want to embody the man they want to marry, but because they believe doing so will rise the level of man they can expect to attract.
A woman will go girl-boss into a six-figure (realistically $70,000- most lie about their salary just to say "six-figure") salary, then believe she's going to be the type of girl other guys of comparable (preferably better) success want- they're not.
What's more, is that because women are hypergamous, they want a guy to make considerably more than them REGARDLESS of how much they make. So, say she's making $120k/yr; she wants her guy to bring in $200k plus. Even if they accept a guy making less than them it will only be on the condition that he let her develop him into a higher financial level.
No, but they have started demonstrating masculine traits that men don't even like amongst themselves. Aggressiveness and rigidity, yet without the same warmth as men tend to show towards their friends that women tend to lack, due to it being expected of women to be warm with others that ironically winds up making them look insencere and cold when they greet someone new, instead of warm like they're stereotypically said to be.
This is what i thought
Then does that mean men have become the women they don’t want to marry?😁🤣
Not all men. lol
Just most 😁😂(just joking people) sad you hate to add that these days
*have not hate
How dare you generalize lol
Guess being in blue the other day rubbed off on me 😁🤣
Haha, nice one.
True though. It’s almost like a lot of men and women have begun to swap places in terms on their natural feminine or masculine charm.
The most womanly man isn’t going to be attractive to most woman.
Nor will the most manly woman be attractive to most men.
Men and women have a natural charm unique to themselves that they should embrace rather than run away from.
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Some have. Some haven’t.
Also it doesn’t matter if they become what they wanted. Sometimes it’s never quite the same handing oneself flowers instead of being on the receiving end of flowers or any special token of love.
I’d say as a guesstimate- half and half. Can’t vote.
I agree with @Bethany22
Women had to develop a thick-skin to endure being mistreated and disrespected over the years. So the stereotypical warmth becomes a thing of the past.
It is a defense mechanism/biproduct that women created to endure men over the years.
Which makes it really difficult for some guys who actually want to get to know their warm side, as she constantly has the shields-up.
So, in answering you question, I don't think women have become the men they want to marry by choice, they've been forced down that road. Once they find someone they can trust that melts their heart, the shields will eventually come down to reveal the softer feminine side again.
I’m many cases women marry a guy in the hope that he is a fixer upper and soon to find than men rarely change but women do so they either leave or take that rule and say screw it.
“Men marry women with the hope they will never change. Women marry men with the hope they will change. Invariably they are both disappointed”Albert Einstein
I think a lot of men are too afraid to admit they see that, and a lot of women would say something to the effect that they're "striking the patriarchy" or something, rather than admit it's that modern feminism is worse, because masculinity never had the express goal of pushing anyone down, just survival.
Anyway, that's neither here nor there, but the truly unsustainable outcome is the older and older ages of childbirth. It's leading to unsustainable population models as well as rising infant and mother mortality rates.
I agree woman nowadays are so self obsessed with themselves and quote on quote independent that they act like they don’t need men anymore. That and their increasingly toxic and terrible attitudes and treatment towards men has made a change. The dating situation I’m the U. S is worse then ever before but who are they blaming? Men it’s like their incapable of taking accountability. I seen that as a joke guys say about girls but now it’s actually a serious issue. And how are men reacting? THEY ARE LEAVING. Going elsewhere and finding woman who actually for one want to be woman and feminine and two want us around. Woman outside the U. S have been calling out American woman on there stupid behavior and even someone woman from America as well. But I don't know it’s looking they are being overshadowed by the large majority who just hate men for no reason or cause it’s trendy. Pretty sad to see it tbh
I do think so for the majority of women. Men are going to expect women to work and also still do most of the housework and childcare, so women have started accepting the pants that have been handed to them.
Men would, as a rule, prefer that their wife/girlfriend either didn't work or only had to work part time, so that she could be home to raise the kids and take care of the house. It's women who insist on working full time, mostly because they want to "keep up" with the spending habits of the women they see on TV or Instagram (which are often not even real).
The idea that most men want to overburden their women is ridiculous - that's the opposite of what we want. But women want Prada bags and Louboutin shoes because the TV tells them to. That might be a slight exaggeration in some cases, but you know what I mean.
I'm also not discounting the truly poor who cannot survive without 2 full time incomes, but that's more the exception than the rule.
Also, a lot of women don't appreciate how a man with a mission (to support his family), and with support at home, can rise to the occasion and improve his earnings because he finds satisfaction in improving their lives. Take away the family, and most men are only interested in doing just enough to get by, because they have no one to take care of.
I've discovered that even the most resolute, independent woman still very much desires love and compassion. Its just her expectations are a whole lot higher and her Give A Shit (GAS) gauge usually runs near empty.
Being enough for the both of us doesn’t mean I have become what I look for. Then again I thought people WANT you to give whatever it is that you look to receive from a partner. Meh I don't know confusing
I´d say yes at least from an outside perspective. Maybe it´s not their intention but at least some of them have become rather masculine. While guys turn feminine or just lazy.
I´m not sure if that´s a problem though.
Feminism, the LGBTQ+ all these other ideologies have tarnished the minds of people, especially women. Feminism keeps pushing this women can do anything business. Women aren’t men, and I don’t know why women want to have masculine traits, for what? To pretend to be a man, meanwhile modern day women on GAG devalue, dehumanize men/guys. In 20 years, young women will look back at wasted opportunities and their constant pursuit of this world and the riches a job “promised” never came to fruition. It’s men who go to war and battles, it’s men doing dangerous jobs in the sea or paving roads or helping build buildings. I don’t agree with everything Andrew Tate says but he’s waking up a lot of guys to take accountability, to act like men not pussy ass simps, and I 100% agree with him.
I don't know if I want to marry again but I do want a partner again at some point in life. There I'll try and be the partner - that I'd want to be with. If that would mean I'd be like the man I did want to marry - I won't complain because he was an amazing person.
I don't it is that thought out. It has been established that no matter how wealthy a woman is, she still wants to marry a man who is wealthier still. The Cinderalla fairy story tells it all of the female dream to score herself a high status male with pots of money. And the bigger the status gap the better.
So they haven't become the man they want to marry. They want something much better!
Women have to work today because few men are willing to support them, but even so they do not surpass men in the workplace because women are economically and occupationally inferior, that being said, the majority of successful women at work They tend to be unattractive, so they are preyed on by men who seek to take their money, mostly young Mexicans and blacks.
This is more true than not among under 40 professional women. I get the impression its very much not the case among middle and working class women of the sane age.
The actual fact is that contemporary woke women are not what men want to marry today. When they think with their hearts, not with their dicques, virtue signals and wallets they want to marry TRAD WIVES!!!

Let those Phemonistas die alone, cuddled up to their rabbit vibrators.
girls have become a "little" more masculine but i don't see 80% of women being plumbers yet. this equality fad seems to be mostly about white collar job anyway. so in the jobs that really matter, there's still no women.
so really what i'm saying is that women are cherry picking the things from masculinity that they "want" for themself but reject those that actually suck about being a man. they only are masculine in ways that feel good to them.
Not from my experience. Maybe I got lucky, but the women I'm surrounded by are still submissive, considerate and a caring nature for those around them. They're not hesitant to speak up their mind, but that doesn't make them more masculine in my eyes. Just a woman who's more outspoken.
Some really have become quite masculine in their temperament and behavior, but there are many who are not that way. Just need to filter the former out along with the diggers and guys will be okay.
I think you may be wrong on this one coach.
Coach wrong? How could you ever think such a thing 🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty It can happen to the best of us once in a while. LOL
😅😂
Huh... haven't really looked at it that way, but yeah, kind of true. :)
I don’t think I’ve become the man I’ve wanted to date. However, I can say I’m not worried about being financially unstable. Maybe deprived of physical pleasure.
I've been out of the dating game for so long that I don't know. Only by what I've read, and accounts by others.
Bro these misogynistic, gender bait questions have started getting really tiresome 🙄
Yeah. Men have become the women they want to marry as well.
They obviously have. Most women today lack feminine character, which is sad.
I don't think so but this sounds funny 😆
So have men turned into 'women' then? You know like always complaining and never being happy.
I think women have mostly learnt negative traits from men that they hate about themselves.
These questions fishing for misogynistic answers are getting old, coach.
Nah. The may have become aggressive like men. But they are still just as illogical as ever. 😆😆😆
My Ex-wife was! I'm NOT interested in marrying a man.
I would say yes.
What does that mean
Not all women.
In west! Well yes.
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