When an alpha male invites a girl out for dinner date, does he pay or split the bill?

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

I’m trying to become an alpha male and more masculine. I’m tired of getting walked over.

Yes, an alpha male still pays.

No, the alpha male splits the bill.

[nastyb]

i am dating an alpha male right now. he says that a "real man" will never let his woman pay for the meal. An alpha male feels passionately about providing and protecting. It comes naturally.

Not some beta males on GAG who claims that since women have the right to vote then he should never have to pay for a date... these aren't real men. These are just little boys pretending to be men.

[nastyb]

Alpha males are happy to pay... Beta males throw a tantrum about why he shouldn't have to pay.

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb What men deemed he was an Alpha?

[nastyb]

@Vegasrunner

He is a leader in a a couple of male organizations. Men do as he says. He also has never worked a subordinate role ever in his life. He is the type who has to take charge and make all the decisions

We only met cuz he could tell instantly i was very feminine. He asked me out. Masculine men can tell very quickly if a woman is ultra feminine on the inside. Feminine women can immediately tell very quickly if a man is an alpha. I knew he was an alpha within the first few minutes of conversation. I was attracted to him instantly

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb What are the names of the organizations?

[zeitgeist057]

Real men don't get manipulated by women calling them "little boys" , that's the kind of thing that men who are subservient to women fall for. Letting themselves get led around by their own egos; all she has to do is say something like that to get him to do whatever she wants. More like "a real slave".

[nastyb]

@zeitgeist057

Feminine women do not respect all men. feminine women only respect real men. they don't respect beta males which is why I called them "little boys". Often times women who date "little boys" have to take on masculine duties because her "little boy" simply won't man up. A woman can only truly be feminine if she is with a man who is masculine.

[nastyb]

@zeitgeist057

the more feminine a woman is, the more likely she will look down on beta men. The more masculine she is, the more likely she will date a beta male.

[nastyb]

@Vegasrunner

i dont remember all of them. but 2 of them are NYPD chaplains unit and FDNY

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb Alvin Kass is 87 years old, you're dating him?

[nastyb]

@Vegasrunner

i don't think most women are interested in men significantly older than them.

[nastyb]

@Vegasrunner

my man is 33. he's financially stable and very accomplished for his age.

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb You said your man is the "leader of the NYPD Chaplins unit correct? Alvin Kass is the head of that unit and he's 87 years old. So either your dating him or your man is not the leader. Which is it?

[nastyb]

@Vegasrunner

he's one of the leaders. Not the official head. NYPD chaplains unit has thousands of members

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb They have only one head. His name is Alvin Kass. So you boyfriend is not a leader of that organization, however you validate how much women desire Alpha Males even if their man isn't one. Not saying your man isn't but based on what you said he doesn't lead anything.

[nastyb]

@Vegasrunner

There are many department leaders in the chaplains unit. Its not just only 1 head. My boyfriend is a lieutenant in the NYPD.

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb That is good for him, and he certainly may be an Alpha, only other Alphas can decide that and I've never met him, however you made the claim that he was "a leader" a Lieutenant by definition is a subordinate position.

[nastyb]

@Vegasrunner

all department chiefs work their way up. they only get to become department chiefs when they get old. there are no short cuts. You prove yourself to get promoted all the way up.

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb That doesn't change the fact that he is a subordinate

[zeitgeist057]

@Vegasrunner much like the military, it is possible to start at a rank or two higher than the entry level with education and training. But the typical path is start at entry level and work your way through the ranks. They don't just look you over, decide you are "an alpha male" and make you captain based on your pheromones. lol it's obvious she digs her man and has him on a pedestal. You're old enough to know there are people who will be unswayed by facts and logic if they feel a certain way.

www.ziprecruiter.com/.../What-Is-How-to-Become

[nastyb]

@zeitgeist057 @Vegasrunner

A persons rank does not dictate whether they are an alpha or not. Being an alpha male has entirely to do with mentality, attitude and personality. Its not something that comes with a job, rank, or money. Either you have it or you do not

[Vegasrunner]

@zeitgeist057 TY for sharing but this has nothing to do w/ the conversation. She made a claim that her man was the "leader" of an organization. It is an unarguable fact that he is not. It's fine that you're saying words but they're not relevant to the topic.

[Vegasrunner]

@nastyb I agree. In fact I clearly stated that in my original comment to you. However like most women you got triggered because a man challenged your belief. You made the claim he is the "leader" of these organizations. The facts say he is clearly not. Whether he is an "Alpha" is something that I can only determine upon meeting him, however the fact that he has a woman online embellishing his credentials makes me skeptical.

[chrissykerdock]

to be honest the man always gets a blowjob after a dinner date... so yes he's going to pay for the dinner.

[Vegasrunner]

@chrissykerdock Lol, thats pretty funny, however I learned from experience I always want my women giving blow jobs b4 dinner.

[chrissykerdock]

@Vegasrunner a lot work it out that way... when they pick you up they kind of want it then and when they drop you off they want another one... usaully.

[Vegasrunner]

@chrissykerdock Lol, yea I could see that. I just meant for the woman's sake it's probably better. I had one of my chick's give me a bj the other day after dinner and it was pretty messy.

[chrissykerdock]

@Vegasrunner messy>? is that good or bad

[Vegasrunner]

@chrissykerdock It was good for me, and she said she wanted to prove herself so it worked out.

[coachTanthony]

If he's alpha then money shouldn't be an issue but there will always be guys who complain about money... ones who don't have any.

[Datboi65]

Yes and no. Let me explain:

First and foremost, an "alpha male" is not just a masculine man, he is the apex of masculinity. This is why I don't like using the term often, because it depreciates the value of the word, but that's a bit off topic. When you think of an alpha, you think of the CEO of the company or the leader of a particular group. The same way in nature, the alpha is usually universally seen by the other group members as being the highest form of authority for that group. You may be masculine, but someone's assistant or right hand man, then you're not an alpha.

Now let's answer your question. A masculine man is chivalrous, so he does pay for the bill. However, a masculine man is also intelligent enough to not just take any random woman on a date without vetting her. A man who is masculine is not going to pay for the dinner if the woman in question is a feminist, because she directly contradicts his views and everything that he stands for. A man who is masculine shows reciprocity, meaning that he will reward behavior that he values, and he will not reward behavior that he dislikes. If a woman is not respectful to the waiters, is constantly on her phone or is being rude to you during the date, it's not your duty to pay for her meal because then you will be rewarding bad behavior, and that's not a masculine thing to do, no matter what anyone else tells you on here.

The woman that you pick should compliment your beliefs, and a lot of western women need to earn the chivalrous behavior back again by acting more traditionally. Think about it as a test. If she behaves well in the first date, you pay for the first date. If not, you split the bill and never see her again. Your time and finances should not be expected, they should be earned.

So to answer your question, yes masculine men do pay for the date fully, provided that the woman in question is a feminine woman.

[lightbulb27]

Pay? He tells the lady whats for dinner, "fresh chickn on a skewer" with veggies. Then proceeds to catch a squirrel with bare hands, gut it with his teeth, skewer it, fry it on the fire, and pull some fresh veggies and a dandelion flower for accent.

now that's ALPHA... Women love alpha's... although there may be a reason they had to "whack em on the head" "back in the day"...

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ok... enough non sense. I have no idea... I just be my best most confident self. If it isn't good enough, move on. Give your heart and when someone worthy is in front of you, it should be reciprocated. If not, it was a low cost way to discard trouble out of your life. These women are doing you a favor by not screwing up your life for decades.

When you find a good one you will know it.

[ohsheeT]

It doesn't matter what type of mail You think You are if you ask a girl out you pay if you like a girl you pay if you're interested in the girl you pay to show her who and what you're all about don't become a cheapskate don't get caught up in society's b******* of being cheap
If you don't have enough money to take a girl out don't take her out

Because if you like her she's going to think to herself this guy can't even take care of himself how can you take care of me if we were to get together. bye

[papiC21]

You're off to a bad start. First of all don't call yourself or anyone alpha males. in my opinion if you're inviting a girl out on a date you fully plan to pay for it, of course if you can obviously see you are being used then you can change that. Or just take the L, pay the bill, and don't talk to her afterward if you had a bad date.

Don't let your insecurities cause you to overcompensate, then you just come off as an asshole. Still be a nice guy, just don't be a pushover. If you need to feel more masculine just hit the gym. Work on your physical appearance and the mental aspects will follow, you would amazed how much better you will be received when you have the confidence to not have to try and prove yourself as an "alpha". Be a man, but be humble

[Lokiion]

Not a bad start he off to a terrible start probably one of the worst you can go down

[Dan_cColt]

First you need to drop this online thinking of "alpha, beta, etc" that sh*t is cringy and most people are just your average normal person. You can change yourself for the better without having to put a stupid internet label on it. If you are more traditional and want a more traditional girl then yeah pay for it, but if you don't want to and the girl isn't one of those "guys must pay for dates" kind of girl then split it, it's more common for guys to pay but we're evolving just like everything else. If you want to be more masculine look to more traditional senses of masculinity and not this redpill crap all over the internet. I'd also say if you want to feel more masculine build up your confidence, try to better things about yourself you might feel insecure about so you seem more happy to engage in the dating world.

[Anonymous]

She invites him over for a home cooked meal and extra curricular activities and he pays nothing. Dates are for Beta Bill to prove himself, warm her up or to give her a free meal while she looks for the alpha.

I remember back in the day, this guy I knew was helping a woman with renovations and trying to do favors so he could get to be with her romantically. He would carry her bags, pick her kids up from school and help with the shopping. This other guy she knew... she would drive to his place, pick him up, drive him to her place and spend time together. He did no favors for her...

[provokeesmokee]

Lmao, "alpha".

Going hard for omegaverse fetishes, eh? Well, you do you.

Don't forget to call people "breedable" if you're a real "alpha". 🤣

You're doomed so long as you believe something even the scientist who published has spent decades disproving. Lmao. "Alpha". 🤣

[zeitgeist057]

Alpha males never pay for anything; their followers gladly pay all their bills, including food or other expenses while dating, if the server even has the nerve to charge them anything in the first place. /s

Alpha males don't follow rules like "I pay" or "we split the bill".

[Anonymous]

There is no such thing as alpha and beta males. It is all nonsense people have been brainwashed by, but people will get sucked in by anything these days.

[Chthou95]

It definitely exist. Human beings just don't want to admit that we're not that unique and pretty similar

[Shamalien]

alpha and beta philosophy is retarded, but me personally, if I invite a girl out, I’m paying. If she tries to throw me a bit of money to help cover the cost I will accept, but I’m telling the server to bring me the cheque. If she asks me out she can pay, and has

[Alli39]

The first thing you should do is worry less about the bill and more about the fact that you want to be referred to as an "alpha male".

[BigWhiteWolf87]

@captain-obvious what's an "alpha man"?

Real leaders are obvious. They don't need to bray like a jackass.

[dynamicyandere]

Right? A true leader naturally commands respect from both men and women, with or without the arbitrary label of “alpha”.

[BigWhiteWolf87]

@dynamicyandere Oh if it's not "alpha" it's "high value" man nowadays. Neither of them contribute anything in a relationship from what I've seen & heard except money.

They're not leaders, they're just those louses nobody likes but hang around to be paid.

[Mallic00]

If a woman can't even muster up the ability to split the bill on something as simple as a dinner date then there's pretty much no difference between her and a child. Right down to the fact that having sex with her will likely land you in jail.

Women who expect the man to do everything for her are completely incompetent and can't do anything for themselves and are thus dead weight.

Does that make me less masculine? Fine. Masculinity is frankly overrated.

[FreyaRed]

Self proclaimed Alpha males are just jokers but generally person who invites another person has to pay. Personally I go even further, when I invite someone to dinner I cook

[BoopBoopBeep]

True alpha males don't self-identify as alpha males, so there's that. Secondly, and more to your point, whoever made the invite should pay. Since that's you...

[Lionman95]

I would say an alpha pays because that way he shows to the woman he´s ready to take the iniative and responsibility and isn´t just talking about being strong and responsible.

[LiamJHayden]

1. Coffee type meetup to see if she is worth the effort.
2. When you go on a date, if you choose the place you should definitely be prepared to pay.

If you want to split the bill, make it clear before you go.

[purplepoppy]

Neither. At dessert an alpha lays his cards on the table and demands a blow job. Girls love that, honest.

[Billlewis]

Ideally, he knows that another guy has been trying to have intercourse with her, and he tells her to call him and have him pay for their date.

[NamerOfStars]

Neither- he tries to trick the researcher into giving him more food, because he's a captive wolf.

[Vegasrunner]

@captain-obvious Good question. You should pay the Bill, however if it's a first date it should he nothing more expensive than a cup of coffee. A true "Alpha" doesn't need to spend a lot of money to have a women attracted to him.

[BigDog1989]

Men always pay the bill BUT

Women are not entitled, nor are men. Women, please at least reach for the bill. It shows that you do not expect him to pay. If he's a good guy, he'll always pay but, you are not entitled!

[jshm2]

Whoever does the invite, pays the bill.

But a beta like you, wouldn't know that...

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

Hey little bro, I am no beta

[slatyb]

I don't believe there is such a thing as an alpha male. When I invite a woman to dinner I plan to pay.

[Sasha0426]

My god! Can we PLEASE stop with this alpha male bullshit? You’re not going to get anyone with this mindset 🙄

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

I see alpha males with women all the time

[Sasha0426]

You mean you see people in relationships? Yeah, you’re going to see that everywhere you go. It’s a normal thing to see when out in public.

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

No, I see alpha males with the most beautiful women

[Juxtapose]

The "alpha male" bullshit was debunked by the guy who came up with the very concept lol. It doesn't even exist in wolves which was the study species for that term.

[DextroShade]

It depends: if it's obvious that she isn't into you on the date or she is just on her phone for most of the date then asking for split checks is an alpha move.

[Anonymous]

Alpha males take turns paying on dates. And alpha men don't buy strangers drinks in bars. The alphas let the simps pay for the booze, and then move in for the kill, later.

[Anonymous]

Alpha male or not, the one who does the asking does the paying. I don't want someone inviting me to a ballgame, then wanting me to pay my own way when we get there. I could've invited my damn self if that was the case.

[jeffend888]

If you call yourself an "alpha male", you're not an alpha male.

[exitseven]

The A-hole will split the bill and think it makes him an Alpha male.

[Shy_Steve]

Usually he still might pay, But there's about a 40% he won't so your better off dating a Guy on your level.

[Korasones]

If it's me I pay for it in the Begenning if we are still dating and I Invite then I pay for it, but if she invites she pays for it , if you earn trust in your Relationship then you talk about it..

[Lokiion]

Wtf is an Alpha male that title sounds goofy 😂

[LimitedBenefits101]

Alpha men dont pay for SHIT and second of all only simps pay

[Chthou95]

He'll pay the first few times. But if he sees the woman just wants a free meal, toss that bitch to the side

[Kingofkings1992]

If you want to drive girls away, nothing will do it faster than calling yourself an “alpha male.”

[Anonymous]

I am alpha male and I don't spend money on women not even a penny.

[gothbxtch]

no such thing as an alpha male

[Jennz6]

He better pay

[Freyke]

He does what he wants to do.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Freyke He "forgot his wallet", so she pays. She is still so cock struck that they go back to her place and bang all night.

[MrHappy99]

If he's a gentleman ge pays the bill