Bumble dating app will now allow men to contact women first where before the woman had to make the first move. Good idea?

[coachTanthony]

Yes It's about time

No terrible idea

[TheRealPepperPotts]

I don't see how changing the one thing that made Bumble unique is going to help them in a competitive market.

Here's an idea: A dating app that is a social network, where you get to comment on posts and get to know someone in a larger context than just a dating profile (and what they say about themselves). You interact in a group setting and start making mutual friends... Oh, wow, that sounds a bit like GaG! Or Facebook! Or even LinkedIn! Dating apps have zero context for building relationships. It's more a product marketing format than an interactive and networking one.

[JHNS98]

It's not product marketing. The users are the product. Hey, maybe everyone using a dating app should take a marketing degree lol.

[TheRealPepperPotts]

@JHNS98 I understand that, that's my point. "It's more a product marketing format than an interactive and networking one". In other words, the users are listed in the same way products are. Scroll and select which "product" you like the best. Only in this case, the "products" pay for the privilege of being marketed...

[lightbulb27]

good ideas, and that's how I met my wife. It's much better to connect in writing, by social proof/network.

[purplepoppy]

Wasn't that it's main selling point? You didn't get swamped by guys who were blanket bombing and hoping one girl would reply.

[coachTanthony]

Correctomundo !!

[WhiteBoyChill]

Since when do women ever initiate men?

[Summeroflove]

I think online dating is stupid. It’s bad enough to meet someone in real life you never met… Now fou meet someone who could be anyone. I’ve never been into that. I like to genuinely know someone before I just jump into a relationship. Even getting to know someone over time is just…. Some people pretend to be someone they’re not.

I’ve seen so many men and women get themselves into absolutely horrible relationships that started out one way and ended another. Because someone was pretending to be someone they’re not and/or the relationship was sexual too fast.

[HawkPerception]

It was a dumb idea to think women would be messaging first in the first place. It's crazy how women expect you to initiate the conversation with some witty, elaborate, humorous message that might utilize an aspect from their profile, but only message "Hey" or "Hi" if they're the one's messaging first.

Women effort - 1%
Men effort - 99%

But now they're also taking away the one unique selling point and whole concept of their app.

Clearly the creators of Bumble did not have a good idea of women's nature.

[snowboarder720]

So much truth is in this opinion. All of the women’s first messages were “hey wyd?” but all my messages need to be a paragraph long to be ghosted?

A lot of guys really are assholes online to women that they are tough to get to know. I remember using lines like “you know that I would be okay if you were to say no, right?” Or “If you’re not okay with that I would be fine with that and make another suggestion.”

Simple lines like that leaves the door open for them to just walk through and not feel timid to enforce boundaries and allowing them to show you who they really are.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Oh yeah. The number of women I used to see with “send me your best pickup line” on their profiles, but I always thought to myself “why the f^ck do I care”?

[theycallme_jd]

@WhiteBoyChill This is so true XD

[WhiteBoyChill]

@theycallme_jd Like fr. Why tf should we want to play their dumb games?

[theycallme_jd]

@WhiteBoyChill Women who look to be entertained before accepting a relationship are a different kind of entitled fellows. Go for people who will put in equal effort and won't always expect to be treated like a queen. Life set 👍🏻

[Finchie40]

I think that’s fair to be honest , especially if the original way , was one sided before. I don’t really
Go on dating apps , but I have t heard of Bumble , just never tried it and glad I didn’t , now that I know it was one sided before , so maybe I will give it a shot now that it’s equal

[grega239]

One sided? Like all the other apps.

[Finchie40]

Yea I think the whole dating app set up with swiping is pathetic to be honest , that people are just swiping each other based off of looks and that’s pretty much it , yes being attracted to someone is important but it shouldn’t be the primary thing that someone is looking for , it’s like judging a book by it’s cover , in a sense it’s kind of rude and disrespectful,

[Chazmatazz269]

I’m surprised it lasted as long as it did.
It’s not like it was wildly successful, and then came the lawsuit. Now they gotta admit that the original business model was flawed. They probably should’ve just shuttered. It’s gonna add insult to injury if the site is notably more successful after that change takes effect.

[Chazmatazz269]

I’m interested in finding out what percentage of female users will leave the app now. I wonder if they’ll even share that information.

[Chazmatazz269]

I just read one article on the proposed change. I don’t think men can initiate conversations on Bumble yet. They have developed prompts that men can send in hopes that the women will respond. I don’t see how that is different from their “likes” and “super likes” nonsense. I’m definitely not going to download and open the app to find out. Ell oh ell!
Maybe there are some G@G users who are still using the app that can share their experience with the changes.

[WhiteSteve]

I’m not really at all familiar with online dating. From women I know, some have liked Bumble for this exact reason, because if we’re being real, dudes are thirsty as fuck, lmao, so I can’t even imagine waking up and checking my dating profile and having like 600 messages since looking the night before. Like I think that’d deter me from using it, too overwhelming. So if I’m a woman, I’d probably prefer that kind of environment where I could control the intake.

[Joshydavid25]

Kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me.. And it makes it similar to other dating apps, but at the same time, it was already similar in that like all other dating apps it's hit and mostly miss for guys.. For women too, but in a different way.. But, it might work out since women are not naturally as assertive as men, and half the time they didn't message first anyways..

[Guanfei]

Terrible idea.

Bumble was the only app that was giving women what they asked. And more importantly, letting them deal with the consequences of it.

They let women message first, and then women complained because messaging first was too hard and they wanted men to do it. They didn't want to put any effort.

Now, men can message first, and what will happen? Women won't even try, and they'll start complaining that men can't be original or don't put any effort.

[theycallme_jd]

I want you to say this in loud to the Bumble headquarters so that they get it into their goddamn heads

[SeriouslyNotSerious]

That's funny. When I met my boyfriend on a dating site, I was the one who liked him first. He just saw me liked his profile, and then it all started from there. Although it was a paid site, where men are more required to pay signing up.

If dating apps change their rules, men won't see those girls who are really interested in them, that's the sad thing.

[CrabCakes11]

Doesn’t that defeat the whole purpose of bumble?

[coachTanthony]

Not necessarily it was just a selling point for the app …. people can still meet each other

[sheenagwapa]

lol it is the man who should contqct first.. in my country it is always the man. a woman NEVER contact first. the man will be teased as a woman if he is the one being contacted by a girl. that's just weird

[_piotr]

"it is the man who should contqct first" No, it is not an universal rule. Just in your country.

[Staximus]

It's not 1850 anymore

[WhitneySnow]

No. I think that will destroy Bumble’s uniqueness. Bumble empowered women by letting them make the first move, when in real life it’s so often the other way around.

[HawkPerception]

Which they rarely did during all the years when the concept was it's main thing. By the way you can still make the first move on any other dating app as well. You just choose not to.

[grega239]

Yea but the same "empowered" women complained about said empowerement.

[Guanfei]

It didn't empower them, as they didn't even try to begin with. At best, they'd let you know you could send a message, and then waited for men to make the effort and send the first real message.

[Unit1]

Good change (we wanted gender equality after all) but it won't do much.

With a matching rate of 0 for 90+% of the boys on there and bitches being there only for attention and validation, it's a too low ROI to bother with it.

[snowboarder720]

That’s the reason for why Bumble was different than all the other apps.
If you want the first contact to be either person then go hop on POF.

[Chazmatazz269]

Unless PoF has changed dramatically since i quit dating, there’s still no comparison. PoF was entirely free for full access to all features when i was using it. Men got VERY little out of Bumble for free. More than five likes cost money. “Super likes” cost money. More than three chats cost money. The only thing i could do was build a profile, and it cost money to verify it. It cost money to restrict incoming messages to verified users. All of which were free to females. It felt like digital “Ladies’ Night”. Ell oh ell!

[Spatmates25]

@Chazmatazz269 and is has change Very much and men just throw out compliments out to stranger. as well of having live video streaming. Is shit to. I don't like to get compliments by stranger I assume they only interested in my looks and nothing else.

[snowboarder720]

@Chazmatazz269 I got a lot more out of the online dating experience after paying for the experience. I honestly preferred it. I think it drove away all the f**k boys who were too cheap to pay $30 a month. If they can’t pay that much for online dating they really aren’t ready to treat their special someone with the respect that they deserve. I stayed away from all the free sites except PoF.

[Chazmatazz269]

I had an ex who tried a matchmaking service. She recommended it to me for a similar reason you preferred the paid approach to online dating. She did not however find her soulmate there. So i decided to keep my $2k. Ell oh ell!
I just hate getting scammed and internet dating sites are usually very vague about what you get for your money. So i expect to pay and still not get what i need, then pay again, and again. So i just don’t get started. That way they can’t scam me. I met some kool people on PoF for free, but not one from Bumble. I think that speaks to the quality of the service, pound for pound as they say.

[snowboarder720]

Oof $2k for a dating service is as heavy as it gets. Often times I found it best to just meet up with people my age with similar interests. Meetup. com helps so much with that. Most groups were free too. I think it had a better chances too because dating isn’t so much of the primary reason why everyone is together but it often carries that way. Even some meetups the women outnumbered the men.

[Chazmatazz269]

I do use Meetup! I’m not looking to date though. Even the paid groups are usually quite affordable. I have one group that was $10/year, and another that was $20 for a “lifetime membership”. Ell oh ell!
I’ve been moving around for work a lot lately though. So i haven’t really gotten attached to any groups in a while.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Bumble is the worst of all the apps in my opinion. I don't like bumble it's clearly run by insane liberals. 90% of the girls I see are fat "activists".

Messaging first became too much pressure for girls. Now the man should go first... They're so inconsistent and hypocritical.

I hate all these apps though, they don't make money by you finding a girl quickly and getting married...

[Pohjolan]

Its now just another regular dating APP for better or worse.

But it is kind of funny how women specifically signed up on a APP where they have to message first only to successfully campaign that they shouldn't have to message first.

That's like vegans going to a BBQ place only to whine about the menu.

[JHNS98]

They probably have data showing them that their model isn't working, and I'm honestly not surprised that they failed.

[Nikki1989]

It is just a dating app. What difference is that going to make?

[bobalife]

Although it defeat the purpose of bumble’s uniqueness for women to initiate first, but I think it takes away abit pressure and both parties can message first than only waiting for one gender to take it on.

[sheikalana]

That's what used to make that app different from the others.

[ManInChains]

I guess the women hated the idea of having to be the ones to start conversations with men 🤣

[Drumlin2001]

Can't answer the poll. I would say yes. But it's not about time. It's been around for at least 5 years, not like its a new thing.
I found it better when in dating pool. Those who I spoke with were much more engaged than on other sites.

[NathanDavis]

good idea for who...

the men, the women? the company?

I guess they will find out sooner or later

[theycallme_jd]

Simple: women wanted power, but then couldn't handle the power, and gave it back to those who had the power. Shame.

[legalboxers]

took them awhile. About time! App is a complete waste of time but its about time

[Rangers]

These types of dating apps are bad ideas no matter what. The girls don't want to talk to anyone, they just want validation in the amount of likes they get

[DishLady]

On the one hand, sure why not? On the other hand. What makes it different from any other app now?

[Likes2drive]

It’s about time, you know how many women are scared to make the first move and it’s just a message to send if you’re interested but so many of them won’t do it so this should be an improvement

[WhiteBoyChill]

I never thought it was fair to begin with, to afford one gender with certain privileges over the other. I don’t know the app all that well, but I’m glad they took a measure towards fairness

[handsomelad70]

Yes, though hopefully Bumble can filter the trolls and creeps.

[Anonymous]

Avoid dating app. They put girls on pedal stool and use them as marketing tools to scam men for money. Not to mention female ego inflation and the false confidence tendencies women get being online in general.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Zero difference. People on there aren't looking for nothing serious anyways.

[dolemite58]

So now it’ll just be like every other dating app?

[Anonymous]

Yes, either they needed to let men message first or get rid of the 24 hour limit to message matches before they go away.

[robocop666]

this is what made it famous so why get rid of it?

[NetherlandsNar]

Yes it's more proactive that way

[Anonymous]

Sounds like the founder has sold her shares then

[Spatmates25]

Is was full of sugar daddy when I used to before.

[msc545]

Its all scammer women anyway.

[Wiredone]

Sure, why not

[Anonymous]

Why am I not surprised

[grega239]

🤣🤣