
Would you let a woman pay for the first date if she offered?


I believe in dutch dating. If I'm on a date, I prefer I pay for myself and she pays for herself. We're both resposible for our own share. If she wants to leave, she should pay her bill and if I want to leave, I'll pay my bill.
It's not traditional times where women made a fraction of what men made or were not allowed to work at all. Women get equal pay for that, and I'm okay with that. But they need to share the responsibility as well now that they have equality. Either that or say they want a traditional relationship where they do all the housework and I pay for everything. If that dynamic is established from the start, I'm fine with paying for everything.
But no, I'd never let a woman pay for me on a date. That would make me feel like a pretty pathetic guy. Men should always pull their own weight at the minimum.
Girls/women have to understand something, it’s not about us not being chivalrous. If she pays we can assume she’s serious about us. Let’s be honest, females can easily get a new date every day if they wanted to and have that guy pay for dinner. But when she takes initiative of paying on the first date it shows me she’s invested. I think women fail to realize guys aren’t bank machines. There are genuine guys out there willing to pay for dinner only for her to turn around months and months of talking to say ahhhh I’m not feeling it no thanks after the first date. It’s a waste of money and time.
Honestly, to any female reading this don’t pull that stupid BS by talking to a guy for months and you know what he looks like and his personality and whit and then finally meet and say uhhhh I’m not feeling it. This stupid sociopath, con artist by the name of Arooj Jafri from Toronto did this and I found that to be a gutless move. Guys don’t owe women anything either if she’s just going to play games and act irrational. I’ll pay for a woman but I’m incredibly cautious now who I talk to, I don’t waste my time on idiot females who think they are all that but at best are worth a bag of chips for $1, a coke for $1 and a McDonald’s cheese burger for $1.
Advice to women and girls: if you meet a guy online and talk to him online and like his personality, talk on a Skype call 1 on 1 within 1 week. That way if you enjoyed his company face to face online, why wouldn’t you enjoy his company in person in real life up close? That’s my advice for the females on here, I value my time I’ll respect her time but seriously girls & ladies don’t waste our time (guys, men) and I know guys understand this frustration.
Tbh, I've never been in that position. I've never asked a guy out and when they asked me to dinner, they always made it clear it was their treat, which I thought was awesome of them! I would never play games by offering to pay "my share", just to see if he won't let me. I would offer to pay for drinks later or for snacks the couple times I've been taken to the movies.
You do realize if he pays for his food and you don’t pay for yours that’s a trip to jail for theft of services.
You’re not entitled to free anything. You’re entitled to your own standards absolutely of what you are looking for. You can choose that someone isn’t compatible and not go on another date.
But if you don’t ask guys out you’re limiting your options. Especially because sometimes the guys asking girls out aren’t the guys they want. As well as the fact they wait around on dudes who are either not interested (never going to ask them) or they find someone else
Not being rude. I’m not trying to crush your fantasy. I’m just saying
Also self respecting men don’t get into one sided relationships. Where he treats her as a princess and she refuses to treat him like a prince. As well as he is to treat her as a queen but she not treating him as a king.
What roles you play in a relationship doesn’t matter. It’s always a give and take. You have to offer something in return or else any dude who has self respect and options will find someone who had more to offer
@Summeroflove You're not crushing my "fantasy". I'm getting married in five months to a man I've been with for four years. Yes, he asked me out and actually said it was his treat, so, I let him pay and bought drinks later. OH! The horror! 🤣🤣
Congratulations on getting engaged. I’m not saying you’re one sided. It’s just that some people have left without paying their half. And ended up getting a knock at the door hours later
At least their pretty faces are on the board for whose never allowed back
@Summeroflove Dine and dash! I've had a couple friends do that. That is very disrespectful and shows a lack of character. I agree!
I should say former friends.
And thank you for the congrats.
Dining and dashing especially at a mom and pop restaurant is just disrespectful. If you can’t afford or don’t want to spend the money to eat out don’t.
Even if someone’s on a date with someone who won’t pay for your half. Just pay for your food and don’t go out with that person again.
Yeah people who do stuff like they aren’t my friends either. You can only wonder what they will do or steal from you
@Summeroflove Exactly! I had a friend that I roomed with in college, we needed a big wrench for plumbing to fix our sink. She left and came back like an hour later with three of the she said she "borrowed", I later found out she actually stole them from the back of a construction van! I never trusted her again and moved out at semester break.
Oh my gosh! Someone like they will definitely steal from you. That’s why I never want a roommate
@Summeroflove I never noticed anything of mine that suddenly disappeared but I know she would use my stuff without asking. My laundry soap, bleach, my shampoo and conditioner, I know she would eat my food lol it drove me nuts! After I found out she stole them wrenches, I knew it was a matter of time before that little bitch would steal from me, so, I told her I'm moving out. I was gonna tell her, "now that I'm moving out, you're gonna have to start buying your own laundry soap, food and hair products until you find a new roommate" 🤣🤣
🤣 right. Which is kind of stealing. People who have a entitlement complex drive me crazy. She probably thinks because she lived there she’s entitled to use shit you got.
But you’re right. As soon as a opportunity arose to steal she would if she didn’t steal and you just didn’t notice.
Like say you leave 20 bucks in your pants. She finds it…. You never knew
I mean, I wouldn't mind paying for it, but I'm more of a traditional woman, and I think opening car doors is something a man should do, but that's just me. All of this to indicate that if she feels comfortable bearing the bill, she is free to do so.
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I'm in a relationship, but even if I was single, no, I'm going to pay. Having said that, I only date women with traditional values who embrace traditional gender roles, because I don't believe in "perfect gender equality" and believe that gender roles are important, and that men and women are NOT the same.
For example the range for healthy blood pressure n healthy bmi differs, different amounts so different charts.
Imagine the doc warns "you are out of range " to warn to change habits
and "she" sues for offending her, calling her male.
Unless we fix justice system, now it is not justice.
I’ve never been out with a guy who let me pay.
I would offer to split the bill down the middle but if she insists, then I take it as a sign that she's serious about being viewed as an equal in the relationship which to me is extremely attractive.
Not a lot of woman I've met want to step up like that and prove to me they have something they bring to the table besides sex. If such a woman is open to taking off work at least for the first few years of our children being born or working mostly from home. Then that's a passing grade for me.
I was gonna write same idea but you wrote it better.
@strateguy632 nice to know I'm not alone!
Nope. I never wanted a non traditional situation. If I didn't want to pay then I would make sure the first date was super low priced/free type event. The older I got the more I valued my time and money and the less I spent on & with total strangers. It's like giving handouts to homeless people. If I want to do that I can skip the whole date facade and just toss money at the guy sitting on the corner.
I have zero issues with guys who say they would let her pay tho. Their choice. To me it's just a waste of time tho.
I wouldn't date a woman who wouldn't at least offer to pay her share. Most of today's women are extremely hypocritical when it comes to gender roles, and this is a test I use to weed those hypocrites out. If she doesn't offer to pay half on the first date, she won't get a second. If she does pay her share but judges me for letting her and won't go on a second date with me, I appreciate her showing her true colors up front so I don't have to waste anymore time (and money) on her.
If she offers to pay for the whole first date, all the better.
Attached 3rd n 4th for me. I fear a test n want to split half of total or just the stuff i ordered for myself.
I agree with @Telekinetic-Potato here.
Also this was put into a good episode in series hannah Montana.
Her pa argued with date, both wanted to pay.
I would discuss it before going out like you pay for your half, I pay for mine and ask if that is alright because dates are expensive and if you go out on multiple in a week to find the right match…. It can be a hefty price while you are left with a broken heart & empty wallet if it doesn’t work out.
If she wants to pay, I’d let her pay.
Pay for what? The "date" is going to be at home playing video games and giving affection. We would both already have everything needed for the date (which isn't really a date per say, just friendship that lead to a relationship).
I use friendship as the time to get to know her, so I don't do "dates".
I've never had a woman pay. But more than half of the women I've dated have at least offered. I feel that speaks to the higher quality of women I've dated IMHO. Because the offer is always appreciated. I've never accepted though. And I've never had a woman insist. Not sure what I'd do if that happened. I'd probably let her. Because as I've said on here a hundred times. This is not an issue for me. I fully intend to pay or I'm not dating. Nor do I think this is worth arguing about.
I mean I feel bad but I would absolutely appreciate it. I would take that over a woman who feels entitled to a free date. Especially if she is the one who planned and picked it….
Sometimes they if they really want to pay. They’ll wait until you use the bathroom. The type of woman who puts effort into the relationship is the type I want. Not a one sided demanding princess.
I'd definitely prefer to pay. However, I'm not so conceited to argue over it. If she ended up paying I'd make sure to make up for it.
In general though, I prefer to pay for everything. One day I want a family on a single income, I think that's step number one into displaying that I'm serious about that.
My opinion the one who asks treats the other. Why? Splitting the tab is fair but not romantic. If a guy asks me out and I end up paying, there won't be a second date. They can take turns treating each other.
No. Because for the first date, we pay our own thing. So we don't owe the other anything, and we know we're not being used.
Same for second date.
If there's a third date, we know we're probably interested in each other and that's when we can consider paying for the other.
Gentleman? Most women today don't deserve a gentleman because they are not ladies. I would prefer to date a lady with traditional values, and for those women I prefer to pay for the date to show I appreciate and value her as a real woman.
For the rest of today's "women", I'm not going to waste my money.
I have never been out with a guy who let me pay before, and I usually pay when I am out on a date with another woman 😅
This is a hypothetical, hasn't happened and won't happen to most men. But given the times now of equality, I think women should pay at least half.
Sure. I would offer to pay. But if she insisted, I wouldn't make a thing out of it. I would graciously thank her and offer to pay for the next date.
I offer to be nice. The moment a guy says yes, I smile, pay my half, and never call him again.
I am traditional with traditional values. 🤷🏾♀️
If I offered to pay and the guy said yeah I wouldn't be seeing him again lol
Sorry, no way she is paying for the first day. I invited her out for a date. I appreciate it. I want to make her feel special. It will be my pleasure.
If I wanted to pay at any time (date, after wake/funeral, niece nephew bday) I gave the waiter my credit card by excusing myself to "bathroom" and gave it
I would always pay… if I’m taking a girl out then I’m paying regardless.
If she invited me out I would expect her to pay. That simple. If I invite her then I'm paying no matter what.
I wouldn't let her pay for me. I would let her pay for herself if she insisted, but I would take that as a sign of her not being interested in me.
As friend sure go ahead. Next round is on me. As a date, no. At that point you've proven yourself to me that you are worth investing time in.
Yep, if she really wanted to. If only to see her behaviour and smash the matriarchy. Assuming I thought we were both professional. If she's not stressed, I'd make it up later.
Being a gentleman is about respect. If she insists, I have no reason to stop her. It also shows she’s independent, which I like.
The only way I'd allow that is if I had zero interest n having sex w/ her.
I would ask to split so we could just keep doing that. I'd be flattered though!
Would only consider if he asked me out, and even then probably not.
That is a test and I’m not failing it besides me paying is the right thing to do
I paid for dates especially when I asked them. I paid for a lady and guy.
I will try and talk her out of it; but I'm not going to refuse a free meal.
Sure , but I'd say I'm picking up the check for our next meal.
No, that would be weird and would make me feel uncomfortable. If she was insistent, I’d be fine with splitting the bill.
Only if I have zero interest in seeing her again.
Absolutely, she is paying to not spend anytime with me so I'm gone
'hey, I drove us here and paid the fuel' ⛽ lol
Not on first date. Second yes
No, never.
You're a true gentleman, Bill.
No I'm gentleman I pay for the first date
Depends on who was inviting whom.
Nope
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