Do you care about it in a possible partner? Why?
Is body count important for you when you are dating?
Do you care about it in a possible partner? Why?
The topic of body count is very subjective.
For a man who is mature enough, a high body count generally isn’t a big deal for as long as he checks out as clean. There are many men who were once involved in porn, male escorts or massage therapists whose body count would be near or more than triple digits yet they’d be squeaky clean and clear from STIs and have 0 emotional attachments to those he been with, I’m a MT and used to be a male escort at a Caribbean resort, generally don’t find anything about it to have affected me other than most things on a girl don’t necessarily excite me as mostly tried them all.
A girl on the other hand, her body count will matter. Like a man, there’s the risk of STIs. There’s also more to it than just that. During sex a girl will form an emotional attachment and pair bond to the man, if she’s had 1-3 previous partners usually she can form that bond fairly easily with a new man. 4-7 mostly still can be done but depends on some factors. 8 or more then usually it’s quite difficult for her to bond as you can think of it as a duct tape, it’s strong once you apply it and probably could remove and reuse it 2-3 times but beyond that it’s lost its adhesive properties. This bond is important as that’s what keeps the couple together through difficult times. When a new man begins inserting himself into her he may or may not break the pair bond she has with the previous guy, if it didn’t break the first time then it could break as they have more sex but sometimes the new guy won’t be able to break it instead he forms a weaker second bond with her. The following bonds will be more difficult to break :-
The boyfriend/husband that took her virginity especially if the relationship ended very recently.
The baby daddy especially if she has more than 1 kid with him, a baby will generally make that pair bond much stronger and even if the bond he first had with her wasn’t a strong bond and it could break the dominant bond in her.
Her previous man was with her for a long time or the longest time and she isn’t over him.
Her previous man has a significantly thicker and longer penis than the new man. This will be especially difficult if she’s still actively seeing the previous guy or it was a very recent ending of a relationship.
2 or more factors, the bond will be difficult for a new guy to break.
If she’s been long term with a man who is well endowed, her vagina may have a memory effect and it’s generally the case all a girl has to do is to have had 7 partners and there will be a 20% chance 1 of those men will be that 1 in 100 that’s well endowed. If she had been with him long term she may not enjoy the sex.
A high body count for a man is the exact same rule as it is for a woman and stating otherwise is hypocrisy.
@CB-Raido-Time That's not true because men and women value things differently from each other. Women generally place a greater value on relationships while men generally place a greater value on sex. The bar is different for each because men and women are not exactly the same.
@Christian_Cartier It may not be what you want to hear but it is the absolute truth like it or not.
Ok this is the most nonsense I’ve read in a while. 1. Man’s body count can definitely matter as it can be indicative of his attachment 2. You sort of contradict yourself there, you say a man can have all these sexual partners and not form attachment and that is a good thing but then you say that the more sexual partners a woman has the less likely she is to form attachment however for a woman for some reason that’s a bad thing. 2b. This is probably from that study that found that BOTH men and women with higher body counts form attachments harder and are more likely to cheat, practically every study confirms this is true for both genders, in fact some studies found this to be true for men only and women still were forming attachments fine with higher body counts. 3. You got a lot of pseudoscience in there. Let me give you an example; the guy I lost my virginity to, I didn’t pair bond to him at all even though we dated. I left him and never thought about him again. Same with the next next guy. However, fifth one hit me like a truck because I fell in love and the pair bond was as strong as they get. In fact stronger because I have been with those other guys before so I knew that this time I had something special. 4. Don’t even get me started on that one, we can push watermelons through there, a penis has no effect.
I care about body count in one sense because I do NOT want a super pure girl at this point. Even with my own body count of 1, I do not want to be with a virgin or someone with a super low body count.
I have dated plenty of "Good girls" and I have dated several "slutty" women. At this point I will gladly and proudly marry a woman with a promiscuous background who treats me like a king, let's me be myself, is her realistic self around me, and likes to have fun, and whose way of carrying herself naturally challenges me to be a better man VS a woman who is "only mine" but wants to change everything about me, and talks at me rather than with me. As long as a woman is not actively sleeping with everyone right now, I don't mind if she has a slutty background or a high body count at all, and would say I usually prefer it at this point. Again as long as she is faithful and respectful to me, that's the key.
My very best relationship was with a woman who had been with many men amd a couple women before me. If I had been a little more emotionally mature at the time, we would be married right now.
She knew exactly how to respect a man. She knew how to please a man. And she had been with so many assholes that she now understood the value of a strong yet gentle man, a hard working, successful, knows how to fight but hates doing it, protective, romantic man who listens to her and is there for her, and is good with children. She recognized the man she had and she knew how to make him happy. And in my case I loved that she kept her sluttiness all to me. When we went out on dates she would wear a full length beautiful dress and we would parade the town as king and queen. Then when it was just us, we would explore all our wild desires, with just her and I.
They say you can't turn a ho into a housewife, but I damn near did. The problem in that relationship was not her. It was only when I took my hands off the wheel emotionally that the relationship turned sour. I've learned a lot since then and I am confident that I have the emotional maturity now. If I ever am blessed enough to meet another woman like her and land a relationship with her I will know what I have this time and I'm not giving up. I've always liked a challenge.
To me it is. Has nothing to do with religious views etc, nor would I ever think of someone negatively because of they had multiple partners, hell no. That is not the issue.
The issue is that I just happen to like people who are similar to me who happen to be extremely selective when it comes to intimacy.
It doesn't matter to me and all these guys saying yes are insecure man-children who have a need to dominate unexperienced women to claim them as their own. Often they are also hypocritical, having sex before meeting said woman but expecting her to stay chaste. It's honestly pathetic on their end.
I'm dating a man already?
I'm not bitter, it's just the truth. Men, or women for that matter, who worry about it for reasons other than STDs are basically adult aged children.
It IS his fault. He is just an insecure child who is pissed he wasn't able to claim her virginity for himself. Losers. All of them that think that way.
Also my sexuality has nothing to do with this, but my count is only 2 and I'm still with both partners so far from being a "slut".
If you are offended by my being poly or pansexual, then it sounds like you have a fragile ego yourself.
Thanks for agreeing with me 😊
@Shamalien gross, even worse haha
Looks like another one with a fragile ego is making his opinion known.
The dating world is very hypocrtical. both men and women are bad as each other, when it comes expectations of the opposite sex.
I dont disagree with that statement. However, body count should never be one to come up unless they are weak.
Well from experience, women don't like virgin men, they want and experience man in the bedroom. Women have made fun of me for being a virgin. Women expect to pay for dates, but they not interested in us they walk way, or if we don't pay they don't want to know us.
I disagree with you, otherwise you talking BS, to say women are not hypocritical.
I never said they weren't hypocritical. I literally just agreed with you that both sides are as bad as each other.
As I also said, body count shouldn't matter unless you are weak. That applies to women who make fun of you for being a virgin. Not sure where the disconnect is here.
Fair enough, I am not going to argue about body count. Its a stupid subject in my eyes. The way I see it, everyone has history, and we have all made bad decisions when we were young. I am concern myself with the serious stuff, like criminal record, STD's like HIV, and Sex work.
Sorry I misundestood your point.
No worries. Yeah STDs would be my only concern but that's taken care of by getting tested before sleeping with someone so easy fix
Agreed. This is the reason, I will never do one stands again, I was crapping myself if I caught something after that experience. I would rather just wait now, until i meet the right person.
Well, definitely good luck in your search and hopefully you won't run into anymore of those rude women..
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
So you believe men are weak for having boundaries. The more sex partners a person has the higher the likelihood of them cheating is and the less likelihood of them being able to pair bond. Why would so. eone who wants go get married at least be in a long term relationship want someone with a high sexual body count?
*sigh* This old argument again.
Body count does not correlate to faithfulness or that asinine "pair bonding" argument. There are people who have little to no body count that cheat because they feel like they got married too early and don't feel like they had a chance to explore their sexuality. There are people with tons of body count who are absolutely faithful to their partner as well.
Cheaters cheat. It's that simple. The body count doesn't matter.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 so all other personality traits equal, an ex prostitute with a bodycount of 1000 has the same chance at a successful marriage as a virgin?
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 what a sexist, disgusting answer. Men have feelings and preferences and some things are just biological like women want a strong, masculine man, men want women who are theirs, who haven't been with other guys.
Ok let's handle this one at a time.
SHAM: Yes. They both have the same chance at a successful (or unsuccessful) marriage. The prostitute may have been forced into it for one reason or another and is looking for a way out and to settle down. As I said earlier, the virgin could just as easily get restless and want to go explore their sexuality. Cheaters cheat, body counts don't.
IMAL: Who cares what you think about my answer? If your feelings involve shaming women for daring to have sex before you can get to them, then it makes you insecure. Not me. Not her. YOU.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 thank you for confirming to me that you are completely delusional.
Thank you for confirming your insecurity and man-child status.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 not wanting to marry a prostitute with 1000 body count = man child…genius 😂
Glad you agree. Now stop being so triggered and move on with your life.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 I’m just laughing at you 😂 might take a while to die down
It's funny, cause I'm not thinking of you at all.
So keep thinking about me if you want, even if it's just to laugh. Just means you are triggered, and I'm invading your thoughts. Just stop wasting my time with useless comments before I ensure it doesn't happen again
*shrug*
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Body count should be an important issue for everyone, even women should be concerned about it with men. I understand a few partners, and almost everyone has had sex at one point or another in their lives or made mistakes with people, including us Christians, but if it's somebody who's had dozens and dozens of partners or they sleep with someone new every week or month, that's not a person I think I would ever want to date.
You have to understand that body count goes deeper than just a number. It's an indicator of a person's level of promiscuity and where their morals/values lie in being intimate with others. And you also have to keep sexual diseases in mind. You can be at risk for heartbreakers like herpes, genital warts, HPV, Epstein-Barr, or syphilis. Some people have these things and don't even know it, which makes it worse or scarier for you to contract from them.
Religion is cruel and evil. Ted Haggard preached morality and had sex with a male hockey player on the side. Christian men, please spare us from your moral views please.
@Notherndude84 There are a lot of fake preachers today, like Joel Osteen. There will be even more as the age draws to a close. Matthew 24:5, For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Spoiler alert 🚨
The Bible, Quran, Book of Mormon all the rest are other religious texts are written by men mostly, with exception of the BOM in the Bronze Age. Humanity needs to move
Past this bullshit if we want to live peacefully in the future.
I see religion as a cancer on humanity that promotes division, war and racism. I also think religion seeks to control every aspect of human life. Throw away that stupid bible and live your own life, think your own thoughts and have sex with who you want.
@Notherndude84 So my opinion in writing this was not purely religious, that was just a PART of it. There are unbelievers who think the same thing I do. You disagreeing with the Bible does not matter to me or shake the ground I stand on.
No amount of your religious dogma will make me a Christian. I’ve read the Bible and it’s bullshit
@Notherndude84 At least you've read it and deep down in your heart you know what the truth is. Maybe one day Jesus will speak to you like he's done with ex-atheists, Muslims, and other folks.
Jesus died 2000 years ago and isn’t coming back. His story about being the saviour isn’t even original, it’s just a version of a popular narrative at the time.
@Notherndude84 I suppose you are too wound up in porn to care. 😂🤣
No I mostly have regular sex with my partner, I do occasionally indulge in porn or we do together. You religious zealots always have to impart shame and judgment.
@Notherndude84 "Throw away that stupid bible and live your own life"
Like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot?
Haha you Christian guys trot out those examples, religion has killed more people than cancer. Let’s not forget the lives ruined and potential wasted believing the bullshit in the Bible
@Notherndude84 Most of the world's atrocities have actually been carried out by atheists and agnostics. Not religious people, even Muslims.
Even your God is a genocidal manic, didn’t he wipe out whole countries in the bible because he didn’t like them?
Yet he claimed to have made them, so he killed millions for people for sport. So by that logic God is a genocidal, cruel, baby killer.
@Notherndude84 Depicting God as the Predator won't work. You said you read the Bible before so you should understand it better. God wiped out people who were exceedingly evil, not simply because he didn't like them. If it was that easy then no one would be left alive since ALL of us have done things God doesn't like. Even David said without God's mercy who would be left standing?
God gave the Canaanites, Perizzites, and Amorites 400 years to repent of their egregious sins including child sacrifice. Isn't that evil to you to? Or only the fact that God wanted to wipe them out?
Didn’t the Israelites stone people for things that are basically not even crimes by today’s standards
@Notherndude84 You're trying to dodge my last question. Let's try this again: God gave the Canaanites, Perizzites, and Amorites 400 years to repent of their egregious sins including child sacrifice. Isn't that evil to you to? Or only the fact that God wanted to wipe them out?
The Children of Israel were just as evil according to the Bible. They disobeyed God at every opportunity so why didn’t God slaughter them for their wickedness?
@Notherndude84 Correction. He did. In fact he told them repeatedly that if they turned away from him and started worshipping other gods and following the ungodly ways of their neighbors, he would remove his protection and favor and allow enemies to come into the land and kill them, make them slaves, or devastate them entirely.
You said you read the Bible so you should understand. I'm thinking you really haven't read it at all, or at least have only read select passages that fit your atheist narratives.
I pointing out that God did a bad job of creating the universe. I mean if God wanted perfect people he should have made us perfect. Instead you’re saying he made us imperfect so he could punish us? If that’s true God is immortal and evil.
@Notherndude84 So in some sense, he actually did create man perfect in the beginning. But he also gave man a choice. He said eat only of the tree of life, don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He could've easily not let man even have access to the second tree, but he did on purpose so that man would still be free to choose if he would obey God or not.
Once Eve and Adam chose to disobey, then they became imperfect. He already warned them from the beginning that there would be punishment for disobedience. He didn't create them to be imperfect simply to punish them. That makes no sense.
So Adam and Eve ate an apple 🍎 and God got butt hurt, really? Do you not know how stupid this sounds? I wonder did Adam and Eve do it in the naughty place.
@Notherndude84 Get used to it. You will get plenty when the End Times arrive. Damn, think they are here already. 😲
When was that supposed to have happen again? Didn’t Jesus say this generation will not pass away until the end times come? Think old JS might have missed the mark
@Notherndude84 Lmao. We don't know what the fruit was that they ate. Genesis doesn't even say it, and probably for good reason. God was angry because they ate from the tree he told them NOT TO. It's simple.
"Didn’t Jesus say this generation will not pass away until the end times come?"
- The generation he was talking about IS the one in the end times. He was speaking of them in a present tense to help the disciples understand. In other words: "This generation that I'm talking about when the end comes will not pass away until all the things happen that I'm saying will happen."
Right so why didn’t God just make humans less prone to behaviours he didn’t like?
Why create a problem for yourself?
Why send a flood?
Why send plagues?
Why send fire and brimstone?
The God of the bible is a deeply disturbing individual who likes; rape, murder, torture, genocide, slavery and war.
@Notherndude84 Dude, stop trying to decide what you think God should or shouldn't have done. Not only do you make your own head spin but you're thinking you, a mere human, knows better than God. It does not work that way. You can ask all these questions till the day you die, and you could get the answers and still not be happy.
If you don't want God, then don't choose him. That's your choice just like Adam and Eve.
It is important only to the extent that it indicates a woman's current attitude about sex. If she is looking for casual sex without commitment, I may be interested in spending a few hours with her, but not a relationship. If she thinks sex is something that should be reserved for a committed relationship, then she has my interest.
If she is my age, and her body count is 20, but 18 of those were before she reached 30, I'm okay with her. If she is my age, and her body count is 20, and 18 of those were in the last two years, I'm not okay with her.
I’ve never asked a woman about hers. One told me, but that was on her own initiative.
Nope. I never gave it any thought. I never asked a girlfriend's "body count" and none ever asked mine.
None of my girlfriends were virgins, but in my teens I knew that they had only had one or two boyfriends before we met. They weren't promiscuous.
When I was 36, I met a 30 year old. She had been molested by her step father from a very early age for over 10 years until she reached puberty. It drove her to alcoholism. She got married and had a kid at 17, they got divorced a few years later and the father got custody even though she remained very close to her son.
She was hypersexual and orgasmic and probably had quite a few sexual partners in her 20s. But by the time we met, she had been in therapy for several years, kicked alcohol, gotten a career, and was self sufficient. She was highly ethical, monogamous, and determined to be a normal, healthy woman.
We wound up living together for almost two years. She was the first girlfriend I every fell completely in love with. Her sexual history was none of my concern. She was an amazing and wonderful person.
I met my future wife when I was 40. She was 37. We had both lived full and fulfilling lives but had never been married or had kids. Naturally, she had had boyfriends, but she was not promiscuous.
We've been happily married now for 28 years. We love, respect and adore each other and are completely loyal.
It has to be important to men as to the paternity of your woman's children once you consider a woman as being more than a vagina to enjoy. It is not symmetrical in the way men and women hate infidelity.
It is one thing for a woman to have had a few relationships but another if she has had a large number of sexual encounters because the past predicts the future. If you have been easy going with whom you have had sex than it is reasonable for me to anticipate you might be easy going after we have coupled up. In which case your child might not be my child but end up paying for child.
So yeah body count matters and should matter to men.
Of course it was.
My wife was a virgin.
No woman who was not would have ever been my wife.
You do not care because you are a woman. Women do not usually care and then expect men not to.
Women care about heigth and income and confidence and masculinity.
Society sold you the lie that the bc pill meant you are free to just f around and there are no consequences.
Decisions always have consequences. Look at the divorce rate, single parent homes, herpes and endless unmarried women.
Being a slut usually has consequences.
I hope you were a virgin too if that’s the case
@victoriaxoxo
Who knows. Maybe I was... maybe I wasn't. It really DOESN'T matter because most men and women CARE ABOUT DIFFERENT things!!!
She may care that I have a good job or that I make X amount of dollars or already have a home for her to move into or that I am tall or that I am a leader. She doesn't have to make the same salary to dare want that from me. She doesn't have to have a house to expect that from me. She doesn't have to be 6 foot herself to want me to be 6 foot.
Men and women value different things so there is no need to have exact mirror qualifications of each other. I don't care about her career. But I acknowledge most women do care that their potential guy has a good job and a solid income. Most women don't care if a guy has been with a few girls sexually in the past. They care more about resources, stability, protection.
Well a lot of guys do care about the promiscuity level of the woman and they don't care about height, her job, her status, her being a leader, her being a problem solver.
Don't compare male and female dating strategies and requirements. They are usually DIFFERENT.
If a girl expects to whore around and do hook ups in college, have a "hoe phase". She isn't a wife or a mom. Any guy is a fool to choose her long term. Sexually "empowered", sexual revolution, feminists hate to hear this and will lash out about patriarchy, insecure, double standards, controlling... blah, blah, blah. Cry me a freaking river. Go post on your Onlyfans page and go do your weekly hook up on Tinder.
Most normal people care about finding a well MATCHED partner who is compassionate, understanding and nice. I wouldn’t want to date a man who had slept with a lot more people than myself as he is unlikely to be a good match sexually and morally. I don’t care if a guy earns less than me as soon as he is not completely broke because I can stand on my own feet. You and your wife seem to be in a much more traditional relationship, which doesn’t bother me if that is what works for you BOTH. But to go around thinking anyone else who falls outside this structure is an OnlyFans content creator or even a subscriber, is crazy.
@victoriaxoxo
It was crazy that YOU thought I had to be a virgin myself to want a non promiscuous woman for a wife as if we had to be exactly the same, as if most women seek virgin men. They don't.
I’m not gonna lie, I don’t think most men seek virgin women. Low number of previous sexual partners? Yes. Virgin mandatory? haven’t heard that in a hundred years and counting
I do to a point. It just gives me an idea of the type of guy he is, how he deals with women, how much he respects his body, and how much of a slut he is. A guy with a high count and doesn't have an actual relationship longer than 2 years is most likely not gonna make a very good serious partner. Also if he eats a lot of pussy I would rather pass on that type of guy since, no thanks :(
I suppose it does, but I don't ask, why, because she could lie to me about it. I will never know the her real body count. So its pointless asking this question to the person who are dating.
Sometimes this stuff, being a virgin or not a virgin, high or low body count can only hold you back from finding a partner.
The only things that concerns me, is cirminal record, serious STDs, being a sex worker. If she has none these, i am fine with rest.
For some men, a higher number of past sexual partners might trigger concerns about loyalty or the risk of infidelity, although this is often based on stereotypes and not supported by evidence. The assumption here is that someone with more partners may be less committed, which is not necessarily true.
Some men may feel insecure or worry about being compared to a woman's past partners. They might fear not measuring up or that the woman will be less emotionally attached because of her previous experiences.
@Cripplingkingship That is because these dudes are too lazy to understand the process in order for women to become emotionally fulfilled. They lack the mental stimulation which is required before she is able to commit in such a way. When a woman finally finds a man that can fulfill the emptiness inside her mind, body and soul she so desperately needs, is when this woman will move heaven and hell in appreciation towards that man.
The current state of affairs though is that guys are too F-EN lazy to educate themselves in understanding the female brain. They rather think there's something wrong in the individual rather believe its them. Very few men know how to do this, the sad truth is that 95% of men have been operating blindly when it comes to relationships with women, basically fumbling themselves into one. Most the time they have been unknowingly guided by women into this fumble because all he will grasp is tiny fractions to what she is trying share. …. The reason most women leave is because after years of hoping he activates her into a mentally stimulated state where she can become fulfilled emotionally, they feel it won't ever happen.
@kmg9150 Thank you for response, but to be honest I am not interested in how the whole female species works, its not relevant to me. I just concern myself with meeting one good women in my life. All the rest of the women, can do what they want.
I can't control what other people or women do in their lives, I am just focused on pushing foward for the best possible I can have.
We are all entitled to preferences in a relationships, whether they are realistic or not. Also I am not concerned about what females are looking for in a man. I really couldn't care less about the horseshit people talk about, waste of time and energy.
@Ariesman81 Regardless of body count, it doesn't make women less or more loyal because of this. This comes down a persons values, in terms of loyalty nowadays, it doesn't exist among women or men. In terms I can understand I might affect the sexual relationship side of things. People are only generally loyal until there is no need for you, regardless of body count. Women will leave you for no money, a serious injury, etc. Wedding vows means shit. As soon as women stops giving man sex, the man leaves or cheats.
However, women are no better themselves, they say bodycount shouldn't matter, but they want an experience man in the bedroom, they don't want a virgin. I have heard this women, and experienced. Both genders are up their own arses, they are entitled to those preference, but your not entitled to the same.
Yes.
The best indicator of your future behaviors and patterns is the past. If they won't admit, confront or own their past, including their mistakes and faults then clearly I can see what I would be dating with.
I am Catholic and believe in our values, I'm not an idiot though, I was in the military and college, I'm not a virgin nor am I expecting one but if a girl can't even admit her number of sexual partners, then we won't align and I won't invest time or money into such a short sighted person.
@Matt_M nope. I've accepted and repented my past sins and want a different life. I am not a virgin and will be extremely open about my past and any questions to go along with it to help show my actions the last years have followed my words after my repentance. I will have to do the same for her as I just said I expect from them, it's very simple and goes both ways.
You don't have to accept my life and values. I now view premarital non monogamous sex as pointless and immoral. I am a Catholic, raised Catholic, educated Catholic, these are my opinions.
How does how I live my life and approach dating make you so upset?
And what values are those? Because apparently following God, become a clergy member and working for the church isn’t enough for someone to have good moral values. Catholic Priest sure do value them alter boys. Being the military and college does not really prove anything regarding intelligence. There are also different aspects to which someone can expand their intellectual understanding on these specific areas.
Such a devout follower into the holy path of what is right and not wrong…. With a name badge like bobby bush eater…. Funny how you sit and declare judgement on someone, when that is an action which is supposed to be reserved only for your God. You do you, but think on this, the school system was designed to stifle creativity and create the base mentality of a compliant task completing working consumer being. Religion, to induce fear of consequences from a meta physical being, to manipulate people on a grande scale with little actual effort. Military, create iron clad bonds with other humans through intense physical and mentally challenging situations, where success is highly achieve when groups work together as one entity towards the same outcome for the same purpose.
These are all institutes which are designed to intake an individual through a process where the end result will now be an A, B or C (which these aren't the only three people manufacturing institutes) category person. These are people whos order you take, here are the rules you need to follow, these are the tasks you need to complete. Insubordination if you dont take the orders (forced compliance), go against the rules of their ideology (freedoms removed as punishment), you have something with you if can't accomplish the task everything else had (your dumb, a failure, isolated from the group, repeat until you can..)
@kmg9150 People send their kids to public school after teacher incidents don't they? I do not condone any of that behavior nor is it a Catholic value, it's a stereotype, just like every Jew is a lawyer and every Muslim a jihadist.
I was raised Catholic and am Catholic, it's part of my culture too and I'm not shying away from that, I am far from a perfect Catholic. During the military and college I lived how I wanted and now I reflect on that time and wish to be better than I was. I also like you telling me I might not be intelligent lol, you literally know nothing about me except by 24 I have a degree (2 actually and starting a 3rd in January) nor my asvab score, GPA, literally anything but that I'm Catholic and want a traditional Catholic partner.
I made this account when I was a stupid 19 year old and cannot change it, hence the stupid name. With all I've done, I wouldn't be surprised if a more virtuous Catholic girl would be suspicious of my past, I'm not coming at this from a one way perspective, I merely stated my own but apparently I need qualifying statements all along the way to avoid triggering you.
I'm 24 years old and I am now more free than I ever have been. I am happy with my choices and path, maybe I will change my mind down the line as I did originally but why does being Catholic make so many people angry?
Nobody controls me, I'm a dual citizen, I'm financially free, I am a war veteran, and if I decide to be a total POS which is within my power, my guiding principle is I will have to answer to God.
Accountability is important and even if the reality isn't true, a man who lives a Catholic life and uses that medium to build a family and commit to them, to teach his family to be morally good through the values of the church and community, that's how I was raised at least. Is that so bad?
I tend to mock whoever happens to be saying ridiculous stuff at any given time. At the moment, that just so happens to be you. If any Jews or Muslims come around and start saying ridiculous stuff, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. In the meantime, you're the one who's talking, so you're the one I'm mocking. (Hey, there's a meme for you! Feel free to use that one on Reddit. You don't even need to pay me royalties because I wouldn't touch that place with a 10-foot pole. 😎)
In any case, I used to be a lot like you. I was young, zealous, inflexible and defensive in my opinions -- albeit about very different things. Just give it about about 10 years and you'll mellow in your thinking and all of this "mockery" that seems to bother you so much now will just roll off your back.
@Matt_M I appreciate the advice. The only difference is I think you underestimate how life experiences develop individuals different from yourself, I'm first generation American Hispanic/Latino, raised traditionally between 2 nations.
I served the USA and was educated in new England Catholic school my entire life, do you
@Matt_M *I didn't mean to post that yet.
Do you not think the way I was raised and my upbringing and experiences are going to make me view things fundamentally different from you?
I had no hardships in my youth and lived in a strange but productive dynamic and I like to think I'm starting to appreciate it and make the best of it. Apparently that comes off as naive or arrogant, perhaps it's my perspective that differs but for now it remains.
Like I said to the other guy, I was raised to be chivalrous and to have integrity, the military fortified accountability in my life as well. To live by the teachings of the New testament and use that medium to teach the next generation and use that as your guide for the answers even if it isn't reality doesn't seem like a bad life to me.
@Matt_M your perspective is not "objective" either, I never said that they didn't, I stated what I wanted but apparently the lack of qualifying statements for saying you want what most Catholics want really bothers non religious people.
My perspective is my perspective, Idc what you think about morality, values or objectivity.
"your perspective is not "objective" either"
Good! You're starting to get. This is progress, however incremental.
"but apparently the lack of qualifying statements for saying you want what most Catholics want really bothers non religious people."
Yeah, well... maybe that's a good reason to start making more qualifying statements. Because statements like "I see premarital non-mononogamous sex as pointless and immoral" creates the impression that you think this is a universal "rule" that should apply to everyone rather than just an expression of your own personal preferences.
@Matt_M this rule is a self imposed guideline yes, one that many others make as well.
I fully acknowledge that and when I said I was in the military and college I was referring to I know what goes on and I took part in what everyone else did. A lot of people never know how to stop or grow up though and I chose to go back to what I had been taught growing up to guide my life and it's made my life better and made me avoid a lot of bad decisions. I think in general a lot of people (especially young people) could benefit from that, it's not me saying that they should though I'm obviously not a authority.
I refuse to date anyone whose body count is more than 3 as I’m a virgin and can’t accept a promiscuous man. They can’t be satisfied by one woman. They find it extremely difficult to marry someone because they always think there’s someone better out there.
Men don't think about "someone better out there." That's how women think. Men think "is she more satisfying than she is a trouble?"
Many men have wandering eyes even if they’re with a beautiful woman
That's the point. She may be beautiful but not satisfying as a person. And if she is causing distress with her demands on top of that, then cheating may feel very relieving and satisfying.
I'm just trying to explain how it comes to be cause people are at awe anytime the topic of cheating comes up, especially to a "beautiful" person. People focus on the wrong things.
This question (one of the top 10 asked on G@G) again?
No. I might be curious, but it’s really not that important to me how many people my partner has done sexual stuff with as long as they don’t cheat on me. If we date long enough (or maybe even before) it’ll probably come up in convo, but it won’t really matter to me. On the other hand, if some of that sexual stuff was done while they were in a relationship with someone else (in other words, they cheated on them), that actually would matter to me.
I don't really care. I was very promiscuous in my twenties, no regrets. My attitude towards casual sex has completely different now because DUH I'm a different guy at 54 then when I was 24. That's why I kind of scoff at the notion that a high number of partners means they will still bang new guys every weekend, cheat, etc. Simply not true.
Body count shouldn’t matter. It’s no one’s place to judge how many people you have or haven’t been with. Maybe someone slept around because they were going through something, and it made them feel good. Maybe they didn’t sleep with anyone at all because they were waiting for someone special.
The people who judge others for it are those who are insecure. If you’re comfortable with yourself, thinking about the others your partner has been with doesn’t bother you.
@Squishyfeet
It does mater because the higher their sexual body count is the high the likelihood of them cheating is and lower the likelihood of them being able to pair bond will be.
@MysteriousDarkness That’s the most ignorant statement I’ve ever heard lol a high body count says nothing about cheating or their bond.
Of course it matters.
Even one time of casual sex makes her low quality and immoral. Only pathetic low quality women would not like a man to have moral standards like that. It is often women past 30 that have made numerous bad life decisions that have a problem with those kinds of moral standards.
Yeah, it indicates a healthy mindset towards relationships, and sex.. The less you've had, the more healthy you most likely are.. People with higher body counts usually have a harder time sticking to one SO, unless they have a complete change in mindset where they got tired of not having somebody to love..
For the one millionth time, no. That is for insecure people.
Insecure asshat men who fear that a woman might out preform them in bed. I’ve had a few older women that were better at sex than me and it was totally awesome 😎
Sex is meaningless to people who just fuck like shaking hands, they will have sex with anybody they find attractive. Because it's meaningless to them, they will cheat again and again. The girl and guy I know with the highest known body counts are also the same who have cheated on their husband and wife the most. No surprise there.
It is to me, but that is because I kept the same standard for myself. People who expect higher standards out of others than they do for themselves have low intelligence.
people saying body count don't matter or the past is just the past are full of shit
it's easy to virtue signal about your blissful ignorance until you're confronted with the issue directly
how many of you would allow a rehabilitated sex offender to babysit your kids? I'm willing to bet all of you will say NO because deep down you know the past isn't just the past
it would depend if there was a reason for it to become an issue or not , not something i'd like ask about early on or really wonder about. you sort of assume everyone has been with someone else anyways.
it would only be a red flag if it was insanely high or like double digits , if they dated a couple people before you and had sex with them not really a shocker right
It's very, very important. A girl's penis count tells me whether or not she respects herself and has a healthy mindset toward relationships. Girls with more than a few I would never consider her for marriage/children or any long term partnership.
Women don't seem to mind, though. So I guess guys can get away with sleeping around. But it is VERY important to me and every man i know. There's no worse feeling as a guy than being seen around town with "that girl".
No, as long as:
1. NO STD's
2. NO KIDS
3. NO legal trouble
4. there was a 4th one but it escapes me right now
Basically, you can be a slut all you want, just, remember, those things have consequences. And, I don't want to date girls with at least those 3 things
Absolutely it is important. It indicates if she shares similar values as me, it makes me feel special that I am not one out of hundreds of men because she is promiscuous, and there is a lower chance of her being infected with a STI that she could pass on to me.
Though the question is irrelevant to me only assuming that I would date again then you bet it would be extremely important, But even more important than that is the fact that is nearly the entire world's population have stuck a poison swab up their nose and got themselves injected with a poison shot and there is no way I would ever date again that isn't even a possibility now.
Yes. It can be an indicator for estimation if a person is capable to have a stable relationships. Of course someone 200+ won't tell you the truth unless you're smart enough to bring the person to brag with their "achievements". XD
Yes, and I hate to come across judgmental body count, and an STD check is very important to me.
The extremes would likely factor for me , ie pornstar level or virgin but otherwise no and have never asked a woman nor would I expect to be given an honest answer.
Not at all , my future partners life before me is not my business 🧘 at some point I will give some different questions, she can answer or not , I'm ok with that , I can choose or not to answer her questions 🧘 I can't change her past 👀🤓
Errr no? This isn't the kind of thing that really crosses my mind. I don't care if she's had sex with 0 guys or 100 guys. What matters is she's with me now.
absolutely. because there's quite solid evidence in social science that choosing a mate with more than 10 partners has a significantly lower chance of being in a quality long term stable relationship with them.
i mean previous sexual partners.
It's meaningless and insecure people stress over it. That SO is with YOU in the PRESENT and building a FUTURE!
EVERYONE HAS A PAST! You should be grateful - how else do people become better lovers?
Not everyone has a past. Some people respect themselves and their future life partner.
No. It isn't any of my business and I don't particularly want to know.
I don't care what her count is. I care more about the present and future. The past is behind us. That's why the windshield is bigger than the rear view mirror
Yep. All aspects of a girl's past are important. It's how we establish a person's character and their expected behavior patterns. Anyone who ignores a person's past is deliberately being naive and rolling some extra dice. To each their own though.
It's very important. I don't want someone who would just hook up and never talk to a stranger ever again, or keep hooking up with randoms. Sex isn't just for fun for me, it's intimacy between 2 people that I'd never reserve for a complete stranger. Only ones who have problems being judged are the ones who do it and can't control themselves, but it shouldn't matter, it definitely doesn't matter to me that women with high body counts don't want me, I definitely don't want them either.
You should look into the biological make up of our DNA and instinctually behaviors that are carried out. Humans weren’t designed to be monogamous. People are very well capable of creating intense amounts of intimacy with a stranger… Its actually quite easier than if the people had an established history. You do you, and keep hanging on till you find someone that fits into the box you have created. I mean hows that working for you so far? Its not being judged in which people have an issue with, its who is judging them and why. You judging people because they dont think like you. Saying there is something wrong with them, simply because you can't see things in which they do. Because they dont deny the creation of chemicals, hormones, FEELINGS and emotions that occurs with these interactions that their body wants…. Its equally important to supply the body of these things just as the body needs food and water.
The same could be said about your need to place burden of your dependency in an individual due to your lack of emotional maturity.
Good luck with that box.
I don't care about it at all.
Like what kind of body count? Not quite clear to me.. 🤔🤭
No, not at all.
We all at some point have a history.
No, if I am just dating somebody maybe a high body count would be good.
I hope not, but it does I find the girls in denial of that fact funny actually sad.
I have for sure 💕
It tells me a lot about your character, so yes, very important.
Absolutely. If a man is looking for a quality woman for a committed relationship / marriage, body count will, and should be, important to him. If a guy doesn't care about your body count, he's likely just looking for casual sex.
I do not ask and have never been asked in real life.
I do.
If it's over 5, I start to ask questions, and usually I lose interest. Maybe keep her as a hook up, but never anything serious.
Most people care about body counts.
It might be the thing I care the most about a woman, I don't want to date a dirty woman.
Only to the extent that if she has more than me I'm not interested.
When I met my wife I was her second.
Most women these days in their 20's usually have 100 , which would definitely put them off of my radar.
Basically a woman with a high body count with me would be a pump and dump only.
100? Bro that hoes got a grudge against life and God, or she’s a sex worker. Most women in their 20s are too lazy and depressed to go out on a mission for the devil like that. That is work and dangerous work at that. Too much p-hub and doom scrolling for you
Of course there are some, but they’re out there making videos and tik toks about it or they are tweakers and prostitutes
It’s very stupid, if a man is concerned about it he’s an insecure loser.
I could care less about a woman's body count.
Yep personally to me it is, it's just a preference.
Mines pretty high... I usually hope she doesn't ask!
Yes. It does change how I would view the relationship.. assuming that's what it even was. It absolutely does effect how that person views sex
Yes, a few is understandable but I mean like 50? How are you supposed to take her seriously?
A high body count is a no for a longterm relationship or marriage. High body counts increase the likelihood of divorce. So its a no.
Is how many been with because same vessal I had and killed by cartoon so I'm like an indestructible cartoon Weiner stays on whole time each time
Well, if half of Windsor (234,000 population) had clubbed her, of course, but if she's had a reasonable number of boyfriends, not really.
Yes. If it is just dating, then no. But for her to have any hopes of marriage, it needs to be really low or zero.
Don't care. With or without a woman with a high body count, you are going to have trouble. Goes with this activity.
High Five for getting stupid fucks to reply. LMAO
To REJECT a person, yes definitely. Any count above 1 from before is a very clear sign.