Are women asking "too much" of men in relationships these days or are men not giving enough?

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Summeroflove · Accepted Answer

Really depends a real relationship isn’t one sided and it seems the people who demand the MOST…. Offer the LEAST so they end up very bitter in the end.

It’s not that there isn’t people out there who have a lot to offer but those people have a lot of options. So many times they will choose someone who has something worth offering back to them if they’re looking for love. Even in transnational relationships both people are offering something to the other, though those relationships hardly last either. One sided relationships are even worse then that but that is another story.

See the problem is people are allowed to have standards but the problem is they both feel entitled to their own standards while also feeling entitled that someone they want must choose them. The truth is nobody is entitled to anybody.

So, if people want to sit there bitter with the opposite sex. Most of the time they are the ones pushing people of value away. They wonder why most people who will take them on one extreme are turds, creeps, losers, etc, and on the other extreme are players, fuck boys, etc. Is probably because they have nothing of value to offer themselves. So they push away those who have something to genuinely offer.

I will say NOT everyone is like that for people who come here to take what I say out of context. But those people who are know who they are. Because they are the ones getting angry about it.

I will also say that every person is different so finding the right person may take time. Just because it’s taking time to find the right person doesn’t make someone bad. It’s better to find someone you’re genuinely attracted to as well as compatible with.

DexWest · Accepted Answer

I would say that the answer is yes to both, but for drastically different reasons. Women have unrealistic standards and are vying for the rich 1% while friend zoning the rest of the guys. This is not to say all women, but it’s the vast majority of them. There’s a reason why guys have started saying, what do you bring to the table. I think this issue is best summed up by Dave chapelle. You have women learning what men want and like from other women. Articles in cosmo being like, 100 ways to satisfy your man. There’s only 4 sex, food, peace, and quiet. There’s a reason why the majority guys are content with a futon, a gaming system, and tv.

Now, when it comes to the guys, for a growing number, they’ve given up. Society has told them for the last few decades at this point, that men are bad. What it means to be a man is bad. The patriarchy and all that. When you’re repeatedly told that you’re bad, in essence, just for being born, you’re going to lower the effort you put in at some point. The match rate for women to men in online dating is approximately 10% for women and 0.6% for men.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Women are asking too much and often don't realise when they've got a good man but a lot of men aren't real men anymore. We've been attacking toxic masculinity for years and we get one of these gelded men we realise we aren't attracted to them

LazerBean · Accepted Answer

The problem is that neither men nor women are asking enough of eachother not of themselves. You can't expect greatness when you accept a mid man/woman, and you can't be surprised that no great man / woman wants you when you yourself are mid.

ohsheeT · Answer

I don't really know because I don't pay attention to other men and all I really care about is what I do and I do it right so I think I'm pretty well balanced there's a time and a place for everything and I'm very spontaneous

Ladsin2 · Answer

Women are asking for much more. Men have always wanted women to rear their children, turn their house into a home, and not be promiscuous. Women always wanted men to provide a house, provide for the kids, and lead the house well. Now women want men to be both provider and home maker. They want him to provide more than they do, but want the same amount of say with the finances. They want him to treat her like a queen, while she's let other men treat her like a back-alley sally. They want him to give her the world, but she also wants to be a strong and independent woman.

What they want doesn't make sense and can't be provided. This is why women initiate divorces and are less happy than they've ever been.

MisterWack · Answer

If they are like “my man can’t play video games”, “my man can’t cook only I can cook since I love trad wife life”, and “my man cannot raise his voice to me or I’ll punch his lights out” sort of thing (no real woman or any woman acts this way though)

Men though are grasping at straws that women hold them to high values today…. Last time I checked we don’t have to wake up at 6 AM to plow the field for our Feudal Lord to keep the Mrs. house running & children happy, we don’t have to hunt a dangerous giant wooly mammoth for a nice fur coat to combat the cold / utilize for meat to put food on the table for her also we don’t have to fight The Crusades to “keep her safe” from opposing forces…. All you have to do is go to work at a place you love, use money to provide for you, your wife, and kids, tell her you love her & compliment how she looks, hug her & kiss her, show her a good time while enjoying “me time”. That is all and modern doesn’t sound so bad now does it?

RavVid · Answer

Does it matter? Relative to each gender it will be seen as the other demanding too much and giving too little. Each is equally true.

I find the petty demands women make, the most annoying of all and often there is no reciprocation in the least. Pretty sure women just want men to do things for them more than wanting the thing done.

Why I don't think it matters is that once it exceeds the average man or woman's ability to sustain a relationship than it is just broken junk. With the median length of marriage at 8 years this is now the case.

It really doesn't matter who is at fault, what matters is it doesn't work.

Anonymous · Answer

Probably a bit of both.

I think the biggest problem today is people choose partners and then expect them to adapt to be what they want. Rather than taking the time, choosing the partner that is right for them. And then learning to be flexible. Because that's most relationship, compromise. And whether you, re together for 5 days or 50 years you're always going to have differences. And if you choose the right partner there should be less to compromise about. Because you'll be much more like minded.

Joshydavid25 · Answer

As other answers have said.. Both.. Men gave become a bit complacent, passive, and especially simpy when it comes to women, and you can thank feminism for that.. As for women yes I do they expect too much or look for the wrong things in a relationship.. Too much story book expectations, as if they are the main character in a romantic movie, and not enough realistic sight.. Also relationships have become more about "me me me" and not enough about "let's get to know this person and see how we can fit together and add to each other"..

Anonymous · Answer

Women and girls are asking for too much and their inflated egos and distorted views on the princess movies they watched of Prince Charming saving the day of a 6ft, 6figure, 6 pack dude comes rushing to save the day, with bad boy qualities but treats her like gold and the rest of the world like 💩 to have ABC, XY and Z. To be a good cook, to clean up, to have a job, to be a good father, to accept and adore everything she does and even bad things shouldn’t be questioned, list goes on and on and on and on it doesn’t stop…it’s not worth it for a guy or a man to waste his life on a girl who thinks she’s a 10 but really a 5 and still acts arrogant and pompous with her behaviour, even if she is a 10 and acts like cleopatra, I still would distance myself from females like that it’s not worth the headache.

melnc · Answer

Women often ask for everything... emotional support, equality, attention... while men are expected to be mind readers and perfect providers. It's not that men aren't giving enough, it's that expectations are unrealistic and never ending. After all, It's not about one side asking "too much" but finding balance for both sides and that's what you should asking for

blueonblack22 · Answer

A lot of our expectations are formed by our environment. Media, entertainment, social media, etc. leads to unrealistic expectations.

But ideologies (e. g. modern feminism) have also significantly contributed to an improper imbalance. There is a (Andrew Tate) backlash to this which I also disagree with. But feminism is deeply entrenched into western public education.

HighValue · Answer

The problem is that women are usually hypocritical. They want someone of much greater quality than themselves. They want a man that brings significantly more to a relationship than they do. The majority of American women are very low quality when it comes to morals, fairness, loyalty, trustworthiness, and appearance.

Dirtydangerhart · Answer

Yes, woman are asking for far to much and expected men to take them as they are. Your human. So is he. Treat him. The same way you treat yourself. If there's Demands of him to be a certan hight, certain wealth or specialties. Then the same should apply to you. The woman.

Maybe_Maybe_not · Answer

I don't see any people "giving not enough" or "asking too much" around me, what I see is some conservative men complaining about progressive women instead of looking for conservative women.

egdev5 · Answer

I'm definitely one of those nice guys who puts a lot effort into a girl but never reciprocated back or left without any context of what I did or didn't do. So, yes woman do have ridiculous prince charming expectations. But, some dudes out there are really jerks and feel that less effort is better. They will gladly play the numbers game. Dating in my 30s now and it's pretty toxic sometimes. re-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft

OzzieOwens · Answer

Both. I find both sexes to be ridiculous these days. Always the other gender's fault. And they both invent poisonous mythologies about the other out of whole cloth. And then online grifters and influencers reinforce these dumb ideas for income instead of getting an honest job.

Notherndude84 · Answer

I think men don’t actually know how to be men thanks to the prevailing attitude towards father’s involvement post divorce. This has led us to a generation of “men” who simply had no male roll models in their lives.
Secondly radical feminism is also partly to blame for demonization of masculinity and promoting feminine identity in all aspects of society. This is why Gen Z women have no real men to marry.

noohair · Answer

I think that the social media generation has created this idea that there can be a perfect life. Perfect vacations, perfect parties, perfect friends. Actually this is a false narrative because no human is perfect and no life is perfect. So expectations that we put on each other are distorted and unrealistic. Every human has flaws and we need to accept this as normal. That perfect selfies is staged and fake.

CarolinaGirl5 · Answer

A lot of you ladies don't practice what you preach, have no class, no standards, no life and just flat out nothing to offer yet expect the world from others. So yes if you can't uphold your end of the bargain than you're asking for too much

ClassicDropout · Answer

All I'm going to say is I've been told to have a house on my own in this shitty economy. When I even attempted to explain how hard it is to get a house, she said I was broke. I'm not going to generalize, but damn.

CupcakeTheDestroyer · Answer

Men have never had to give more than the bare minimum and don’t know how to do more. As a result, they flounder and flop and don’t understand why she left him when he was decent to her like he is with everyone else.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Some of each are doing as the question ask: some guy give nothing, and some girls expect the absurd. Most people are more rational, but might not be romantically compatible.

Anonymous · Answer

There are no more masculine men anymore, so we come up with a bunch of ridiculous demands to compensate. When we'd just be happy with a man that isn't afraid to be a man.

Jersey2 · Answer

Women need to be feminine again. Men need to man up.

Anonymous · Answer

Asking for too much, accepting too little, then complaining about their shitty choices while destroying families and society as a whole.

Unit1 · Answer

the internet women? Yes. They can ask for too much beyond the non top 10% of men's capabilities. Real world girls? I have almost no idea. Social media got in my way of dating them.

worldscolide · Answer

It's a bit of both, a lot of men are just lazy.. A lot of women have a list of expectations a mile long and offer nothing in return, the question is, which are you?

genericname85 · Answer

Well ask this way: what's the benefit of being in a relationship? And what's the cost? Ask that for both genders and you'll know why people are getting together less.

paledreams · Answer

Women are asking too much and , and men are not giving nearly enough - men just take take take

PrettyCrumblBb · Answer

We need to put God first! A healthy relationship should have a strong foundation. And God is the only foundation you need. With God anything is possible.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

That would depend on which couple you're talking about.

SolitarySolace · Answer

Women ask for too much which is one of the many reasons why I've chosen to remain single since 2016

Pohjolan · Answer

Individually no. Societally yes as this leads to a birth deficit. No I don't have a easy solution for this dichotomy.

IHateBeingaMan · Answer

it naturally makes sense that relationships require more of men than of women since women have more to bear and risk

Nifrayu · Answer

Well that depends. What exactly are women asking of men?

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Women are giving far too little. Just showing up isn't enough.

Crazzyyworld · Answer

U should stop pretending Virgin Mary and start showing more sex

Anonymous · Answer

I think that women are asking for the wrong things in relationships.

itsannalee · Answer

Not all women, some yes.

MoonFace2 · Answer

A bit of both.

Iron_Man · Answer

What are they asking for exactly

Anonymous · Answer

What are they asking?

Grond21 · Answer

Both.

WowGIrl4ever · Answer

Both

12karen · Answer

Or both

beefcakebradybatson · Answer

Both.

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