Do men ever want to take their time in getting to know a woman?

[SmileyLady]

and go on dates with her, if he’s shy and wants something serious?

[Anonymous]

I would but I can't afford it. If I dumped every single spare penny I had into dating, I could maybe go on 2-3 dates a month if I could even find someone to go out with. You have to remember yes there are guys out there that only care about sex but there's a ton of people looking for a long-term relationship with emotional depth. A lot of people who want to date these days can't.

Dating is a privilege of the middle class now and a lot of guys from our generation just straight up can't afford to date even if the woman is willing to go Dutch which most aren't. In fact, most of the time in my experience when you ask for them to pay their own way, they typically get angry and see it as a turn off. Relationships have never been harder to build and deepen because of what we've done to our society.

Essentially a fairly big part of the problem is how narrow the dating environment has become. Since the dating pool is smaller the D bags stand out more because there are fewer people on the market. Basically, it's not that there aren't men who want a real relationship. The problem is so few people can afford a relationship at all finding a good one is almost impossible if you're not a high value partner.

there's a reason a lot of guys myself included have given up. The whole system of how we date in our society is so messed up it's causing a massive spike downwards in our population which is really bad for our economy and standard of living in the future. People don't get it but we're still monkeys.

We need sex, emotional bonds and physical contact from other people on a biological level to function right. When you don't get touched enough by people or have friends or close family, you're a monkey, without a troop. Monkeys rejected by the troop normally get eaten but we've become so advanced we no longer answer to Darwin most of the time so now we just get depressed like the monkeys in Zoos.

it starts messing with your head if you don't because you're literally rejecting your evolution by living that way. Humanity has Zoocosis these are the real issues that get in the way of finding a long-term partner.

[OneViewpoint]

Wow, the most cogent post I’ve seen on the internet in a long time. I think you just nailed the problem confronting most people 20-40 right now.

[Opinion Owner]

@OneViewpoint Thank you I've had many years to lean it.

[ProbablyClueless]

Sure, if she's a genuinely enjoyable person to interact with.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of women who don't give you a whole lot to go off of, or they'll try to mold themselves into the person they think the guy wants in a girlfriend. So you're just kinda not sure who or what kind of person you're even talking with... and that can be disconcerting.

[OneViewpoint]

Absolutely. There is a lot of crazy out there. And I enjoy a peaceful, drama free existence. Slow is good. I'm in no hurry. Shy has nothing to do with it. Caution is the operative word. Show me you're not nuts.

[NoDecision]

Well that beats trying to get laid on the first date. People don't seem to date to get to know someone these days. It's all about sex. If they don't get sex by the 3rd date they move on.

[hotcrossbunny]

I think it works both ways, some boys can be shy.

You get good and bad people on dates but hopefully find the right one.

[Twalli]

I don't really date before getting in a relationship. However, I don't have sex before dating for several months, so in that way I get to know her before sex.

[Iron_Man]

if they don’t they’re just looking for sex that’s not a good idea

[Bklynbadboy12]

I always want to take my time i don't know why any man would do otherwise

[HungTexan]

Yes. Many men like to go slow.

[bowenw]

Yes that is how I usually do it.

[renodnol32]

Yes.

[eagle1951]

i do anyway