I’m newly single and trying to navigate dating again, but I seriously don’t get what’s changed. It feels like everyone’s playing a game instead of just enjoying the moment.
Guy #1: Met this guy a month before leaving the country. From the start, it was obvious he had a roster and was emotionally closed off, but I didn’t care since I was leaving soon.
He took me on several dates, insisted on paying, and threw in the occasional neg, like, "A pretty girl like you needs grounding."
Then, one night, after drinking, we went back to his place. I figured we'd just get to it, but instead, he starts interrogating me about my phone number change, like he thought I was lying about something.
Later, I told him I wasn’t free for a couple of days. Instead of waiting, he canceled our plans entirely, like he was trying to punish me for not making him a priority.
At that point, I cut contact. We never even hooked up, and honestly, he just wasted both of our time (and his money).
Guy #2: Met this guy in my new city. We hooked up, but then he started pressuring me for a date. I wasn’t interested in anything serious, but after a while, I felt bad and said yes.
That’s when he started acting weird.
He showed me pics of another girl he hooked up with before me. He kept his phone volume on loud so I’d hear his late-night notifications. He walked me around his neighborhood until we “accidentally” bumped into his parents—then later, his extended family.
Then he started messing with plans.
He agreed to meet, then didn’t show up. He agreed to meet at my place, then last-minute switched it to his. He negged me with stuff like, "I like fashion, but you probably don’t know much about that since you’re not a fashionista."
And then, out of nowhere, "So, where do you think this is going?"
Bro. Nowhere. You made this whole thing weird. Cut him off.
Is this just dating now? Are y’all having the same weird experience? Is this the effect of the Red Pill movement?
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You're complaining about guys and dating when all you did with them was hookup anyway?
1. You said you already knew the guy had a roster but you didn't care because he was leaving soon, but you obviously cared enough to even spend the little bit of time with you that you did and were bothered by him grilling you about your number. You already knew he was probably messing with other girls anyway so you shouldn't have even been bothered with him in the first place.
2. You outright did hookup with the second guy and said you didn't want anything serious. Just like women, men too can get attached to a female after hooking up as well. If you didn't like him getting attached and doing "weird things" then you should've cut it off right after the hookup.
It's a joke that you're complaining about any of this as guy's "strange" dating behavior when you didn't even date them or want to, you just hooked up. Chicks need to think first before trying to tell a story a certain way to try to make dudes look like the bad guy before embarrassing yourself on the Internet with a BS post.
Ok but first guy knew I would be leaving soon. It’s not like a lied to him. Then why not have fun? And second guy, alright maybe here I’m at fault but it’s not like he was against hooking up? And I was genuinely on the fence about potentially dating him until he started pulling power games on me. Why not just I don't know be normal? And court normally like a normal man?
Doesn't matter what the first guy knew, YOU knew you were the one leaving soon.
"Why not just I don't know be normal? And court normally like a normal man?"
- When a guy sleeps with a girl and gets attached, and she says she doesn't want a relationship, it will typically make him want you harder, because he doesn't want to see you go. So he's going to do things like that second guy to try to woo you.
Listen, if hooking up is all you want to do, then do just that. Don't try to make it like these guys have dating issues. You either intend to date them or you don't.
OK but why be mean and manipulative? Why neg? Why not just be nice?
What sort of logic is that ffs?
Any time you hookup with anybody without seriously knowing them all that well or long enough, you're bound to experience these kinds of complications.
And sex that is given easily to men but especially young guys, can make them become pretty possessive. Because they figure if they got the sex from you without much of a fight, then they can get anything else they want.
Everyone is playing a game sweetheart. And that includes YOUR gender. And this has as much to do with ME TOO as it does red pill.
Everyone is just waiting for you to show your first sign of flake. Then his going to get you before you get him.
It's all silly I know. But this is where we're at as a society. You wanted equality and now you got it. Men are just as much in thier soft guy era now as women have ever been.
Im trying to understand cause it seems like you don't want anything serious if that's the case why even bother
I can’t have anything serious as I’m moving around a lot atm. But one mutually beneficial and positive fling could be nice considering I haven’t really seen anyone for like a year. Doesn’t need to lead anywhere but it can’t be toxic ya know?
Yeah but what if you catch feelings
I am not in a spot in life to date atm so I would just have to deal with it
I can respect the and im sure they'll appreciate your honesty. That's truly rare now a days