Is the male loneliness epidemic a real thing?

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I had a coworker mention this to me and then I saw a social media post about it. I believe society in general are experiencing this lo loneliness epidemic.

MrOracle · Accepted Answer

I'm not saying that women have it easy - women certainly have their own challenges - but 90% of women will NEVER understand what it's like to be an "average" (i. e., less than the top 5%) man.

Do some reading about writer Norah Vincent. She was a lesbian columnist who was convinced that men had life easy, and to prove that, she decided she was going to live as a man for 2 years and write about it. She had professional hair/makeup and wardrobe assistance, and she set about trying to get a job and work it, and trying to make friends, date, and do activities as a man.

The first thing she discovered - and probably the thing that she struggled to deal with the most - was that if you're a man, NO ONE CARES about you as a rule (unless you are a top 5%er, of course). No one gave her any attention beyond what was required. She wasn't "seen." But women especially were mostly indifferent to her. I'll put up a video about her and this experiment and you can hear her describe it in her own words.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ip7kP_dd6LU

There have been many examples of other women who secretly posed as men who were shocked at how men are treated (especially by women). Most women only CHOOSE to interact or only WELCOME interaction from the top 5% of men, so almost everything they "know" about men comes from their experiences and observations of THOSE men - men who are highly desirable and have tons of options and get tons of attention. This makes women assume that all men's experiences are like this, or at least similar. They don't realize that men outside of this top 5% (and at one time that number was closer to 20%, but the "desirable percentage" has shrunk significantly due to dating apps giving women virtual access to the entire world of men, rather than just those in their vicinity), most men are invisible and ignored, unless they are directly providing a service to you.

Today, and for the last decade or so (think: when dating apps came to smart phones), if a man isn't in the top percentage, he is ignored on dating apps just as in real life. If he isn't handsome and standing next to an expensive car or obviously living an expensive lifestyle, women simply scroll by. And if, by some chance she answers a message, she will usually give one or two-word answers and take hours or days to respond, if at all.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/DZTIbHIsIYw https://www.youtube.com/embed/WRF_g2KuA_0

And for those guys who DO get a date, so often the women don't even try to get to know the guy - she's just there for free food, free entertainment, and to stroke her own ego. OR, it becomes clear that she has a highly promiscuous past, has a history of choosing men who are obviously red flags (criminals, abusers, etc.), or have multiple children, usually out of wedlock.

This has caused tons of men to leave the dating world entirely. They definitely are lonely, but they would rather be alone than be taken advantage of and discarded or just generally shown no respect.

Sure there are still plenty of simps out there who are perfectly willing to be taken advantage of if it gets them some female attention, but this usually only lasts until he's been financially cleaned out, at which time, she's on to the next one. But, yes, these guys will date the single moms, the 45 year olds, the 250+ pounders, and the 300+ body count women. They are lonely and will pay any price and suffer any indignity to have a woman.

But about 40% of single men - mostly guys who you would rate between a 4 and a 9 out of 10 - have given up entirely, and actively avoid women, because the value proposition for them is so low that they'd rather be lonely and single than put up with the hassle.

Entertained_Adult · Accepted Answer

All options are on the table.

katiesmuff · Accepted Answer

If there is such a thing going on it is caused from social media and internet games all of which I know a lot of both men and women who have their faces buried in their computer or phone and it's gotten to be life for many of them. I'd say it is the same as a person who would get addicted to watching porn only no sex going on, or at least very little. People need to get out enjoy life, just take a walk anywhere meet people that way and it doesn't have to cost anything. I think a person creates their own loneliness most times.

Apple1996 · Accepted Answer

Oh it's not a male loneliness epidemic. It's a male entitlement epidemic. They think they are soo lonely and no women are choosing them but here's the thing they act like assholes that offer nothing good to a relationship yet still expect women to want them. They don't realize that they can just be kind and caring to women and we'd want to be around them more often. It's a simple fix but they refuse

Summeroflove · Answer

I think it depends but definitely women who aren’t conventionally attractive have it pretty hard as well. I think it depends there are some women who are very caring and nurturing but it scares men. A lot of people feel depressed men as well as women I think men and women a lot of times juar don’t understand one another. As well as project their own wants and needs onto the other person. So when they try to support one another instead of listening they try to help by solving their problems the way they would like their own to be solved. Which can cause issues.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

Younger people have spent their lives texting instead of talking face-to-face, so the lack of social skills is having an effect.

Anonymous · Answer

Yes, it is it's very real and there are a lot of misconceptions about it too.

1. It's not just angry incels it's a shit ton of men including ones that are doing well in life and have a lot to offer.

2. The economy has fucked us so bad dating costs too much to do especially if woman won't go Dutch. Woman still want traditional benefits from relationships, but they don't want to do any of the work or bring anything to the table that makes for a good marriage.

3. It's not just a woman thing and men not dating or starting families. The lonelyness epidemic has a second side to it that's often overlooked in favor of making fun of incels. 1 in 5 men have no close friends, as in none. Men's friendships are dying out.

I have no friends at all within 200 miles of me and I've never met a single one of them in real life. It's all online IRL I have no friends at all and I just sit in my apartment all day lonely and miserable.

4. The suicide rate should tell us all something about how well men are doing right now mentally. The suicide rate among men in 2023 was approximately four times higher than the rate among women. In the US alone the average rate is 12 suicides a day for men. Thats about 4,200 men killing themselves in America per year.

These are great video that breaks it down and also covers a lot of the statistics if you're interested. I don't agree with everything in it, but I agree with most of it. She also has videos on the womans end of the situation in the modern world which I'll also add bellow.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/rQv8VuLpKN4 https://www.youtube.com/embed/qVKvEaokV6I https://www.youtube.com/embed/D2DaJSSNmOQ

Anonymous · Answer

The loneliness epidemic has its own affects on men as it has its own affects on women.

Men hurt worse in different areas than women hurt in different areas and vice versa.

We need to find ways that help our communities go offline (not forever or right away), but gradually looking up from their phones and engaging with the world around them in a positive, loving, well meaning, and mentally healthy way. Too much social media and too much entertainment 24/7 is not good for you.

Thing to take into consideration: Mark Zuckerberg’s internal team found that social media hurts youth particularly teenage girls mentally and makes them feel depressed / alone. What was their solution? They didn’t tell anyone and sold ad space for therapy sessions onto Instagram.

We need to unite and come together, the first step to a problem is admitting there is a problem then the second step is coming up with solutions. We must support, hear, and talk to one another especially those struggling and remind them they’re not alone & they are worthy of love.

Anonymous · Answer

It's been going on for a long time but it's just that men are now are more aware and proactive about their loneliness.

Also, more research are done on women with regards to depression and loneliness as they are more willing to seek professional help right away. It's why discussions about male loneliness and mental health diagnoses only came in the past 10 years.

Physicality, especially physical activity, is also big for men as far as coping mechanism goes. But in a digital world and interests trending towards that, men have lost spaces that were previously available. There's also less physical male only/male-oriented spaces where men could be men and freely express their thoughts. And those that have tried to open spaces like that faced intervention. Whether it's memebership men's clubs or just social spaces, they've all been forced to be a shared space.

There's also a transition period with regards to gender and gender identity that wasn't as prevalent 20 years prior. Included with that is an open vilification of men that also bubbled to the surface 10 years prior. Men don't do well in a state of constant change and the younger Gen Z's and the current teenagers has to deal with that massive social shift. We can possibly attribute 'crashout' behavior towards compounding social changes along with not receiving support.

demonics · Answer

Its clickbait for women.

They can't even use those two words in the same sentence FFS.

But also an attempt to project women's thoughts and feelings onto men as if we are interchangeable. Men being alone is the standard experience for 80% of men, and since the dawn of time itself. Every person alive today shares a genetic ancestry with only 20% of men. That is to say, a tribe of 100 men, only 20 of them will ever be fathers. Dying in a ditch with a stick for a grave marker is the reality for most men on this planet. "Male loneliness' is a love letter to every middle aged romance novel reader. "Its not so bad because the men are suffering too!

Is the male loneliness epidemic a real thing?

"Listen here bud, I chased you all the way out here because YOU'RE the lonely one. Now come on back home, the fridge light keeps going out when I close the door."

Grlbears · Answer

No. And you will have your answer by doing reality check instead of relying on J3wish feminist trash propaganda you see on the internet/mainstream media.

Here is the logical truth: The very fact that men are the initiators (asking out) but stay single means that most men nowadays prefer being single and/or just do not believe in marriage anymore. That leads frustration in modern women. And because they cannot handle the fact that women are desperate for love from a man but at the same time hate seeing men happy being single leads to the mainstream media spreading the lies about “male loneliness epidemic “ like a plague in order for those women to click on it and feel good about themselves that men suffer as well (which in reality they do not). That “male loneliness epidemic “ is just a sensationalism propaganda to gain clicks and profit from one of their greatest target audiences: modern women/feminists

sawno · Answer

This is real, the social fabric has effectively been destroyed. There are no places people meet if they dont share the same hobby. And if you have masculine hobbies you never meet compatible girls. Dating apps I didn't try but because way hotter and more successful men are fine chatting a girl up, having sex with her for a while as a side chick who may not know she's a side chick and then when he leaves her she thinks she's in that league and now rejects guys that actually fit her.

So yes, very real problems going on.

Nik1hil · Answer

😑Yes Male Loneliness is a epidemic 😑

However, it's better than getting involved with wrong Toxic people.

Men only find end to Loneliness, in arms of a women. Another man cannot end it!..

But sadly with Legal Provisions, and Empowering Women. It's given women unfair advantage of using false accusations.

And Price to be paid for False accusations is horribly huge today, in legal system.

So a man would Rather be Lonely, eating good and cheap meals and avoid anything with legal Risks!

Anonymous · Answer

It's been said, it's more of a male entitlement epidemic.

Men would rather be "lonely" and miserable than actually do something as ridiculous as connecting with people, being a empathetic and emotionally available (which is a requirement towards creating interpersonal relationships) because that would turn them into women. (Thanks Swedish S) And then they'll turn around and cry how it is women's fault that they can't relate to anyone else that doesn't fit their perspective of life. They've never had to actually adjust themselves to someone else and it shows. (Again dear Swedish S giving me some good examples there)

Oncewildtwiceburned · Answer

True, at your age women are flirted with a lot less than guys. My friend and I still get flirted with at the same age as you by women in their early 20s.

We know its probably just that they think we have money+daddy issues, well I do at least, but its also how the world works, we’re different. Some men hit their prime in their late 30s and even early 40s (at the latest). For women their prime is connected to their fertility window and they tend to age faster.

From the neck down I look as good as I ever did or even better, I look my age otherwise though.

My cousins had kids in their late 40s and even 50. My ex-wife left me after we had two kids in our early 20s for a way older guy who was established in his community.

Young men are “lonely”/single for a ton reasons, and more so than women in terms of opposite sex partners, its a huge topic, like family court bias against fathers, that society just doesn’t talk about or seem to care about.

Anonymous · Answer

it has to do with the fact that men typically are less social than women. This is the same reason why women tend to be less likely to commit suicide. It is because women invest more into friends and social circles. They have a stronger support system.

From what I have seen amongst young men, they hold very superficial, weak friendships with other men. And they usually would refuse to talk to women unless he finds her hot. Now if this the way you live your life, I am really not surprised if you suffer from extreme loneliness

Anonymous · Answer

I think it is, and it isn't.

Among younger guys, I believe it's a matter of lonliness, but among older men, those have been through bad relationships, it's simply a matter of choice.

We've chosen to give up on dating. Peace & solitude is preferable to going through it again.

Kaneki05 · Answer

Oh for sure and the best is part is women who are trying to deny it or belittle it are part of the problem.

Nvm excuses like Well all these lonely men are socially awkward... No shit what do you expect if the guy does not have people he can speak to? And you tell me do you think that gets worse or better over time by more time alone?

Then there is also the problem which your doing, nobody said women aren't also experiencing such issues it's just that men experience it way more on average and it's often worse.

Anonymous · Answer

This thread makes me sad. I lost my baby brother to suicide last year. It will be a year ago the 14th of May. I knew he was lonely and had a difficult time relating to others, but he was NOT entitled, at all. He was genuinely nice and had a heart of gold. We were close, but I had no idea he was considering suicide. Maybe I should have known, I don't know. But I will never forgive myself for not seeing it, for not listening more deeply.

Society does not treat men the same as it does women. We tell men their problem is they don't express themselves, and when they do they are called entitled?

Deadz0ne · Answer

Because women suffer from this more than men in reality. Women tend to rely on men more, as they are generally weaker both physically and mentally, making them emotionally less stable and more likely to crave love. This has always been the case the dawn of mankind. Anyone not influenced by feminism knows this. The mainstream media, aware that women depend more on men in relationships, publishes the opposite-like “male loneliness epidemic”-to get attention and profit through, just like @grlbears said -  sensationalism  . This distorts the truth, making disadvantaged people seem successful just to spark discussion and attract clicks, even though it rarely matches real life. . This distorts the truth, making disadvantaged people seem successful just to spark discussion and attract clicks, even though it rarely matches real life.

Shiprex · Answer

I would say women will GROUP more easily to be in social states but NOT as friendships so much as you'd expect.
Guys are realising they can be content without too much social interaction or relationships and the alone isn't necessarily lonely more than it is just enjoying away from the rat race.

RingOfFire · Answer

It's the internet age. People are living their lives on their phones and computers and not having enough real social interaction. Human beings aren't designed this way. In person social interactions are critical to our physical and mental health.

I believe that is the primary source of the loneliness epidemic in America today.

MannMitAntworten · Answer

I have heard this being a thing. Perhaps it is for those men whose lives exist solely behind digital device. Granted, the same is suggested of women if one is to digest what the ‘net’ says. Both sides need to get their asses outside and interact in person and not strictly from behind their smart phone.

This men’s fault/women’s fault rhetoric isn’t doing either side any good….

OneViewpoint · Answer

Oh it's a real thing. In the mind of 35 year old males who never matured into men. Mommy and daddy told them they are special and made sure they got a participation trophy. But they never taught their sons about actions and consequences. Little Johnny grew up expecting to win every time without working for it. Little Johnny is having a hard time coping with the reality that being a loser is not gonna have women tripping over themselves to be their mate.

Anonymous · Answer

"The whole generalized idea that women have more support in life is not accurate"

Says the woman who is denying what the facts irrefutably show to be true. Women like you are part of the problem. Like most women, and society as a whole, you deny, minimize and marginalize the issues men face today while men continue to commit suicide at 4 x the rate of women.

But don't worry, you can still sleep well at night while you live in denial, because it only affects half of the population, and it's not your half.

Anonymous · Answer

When the psychology industry is female dominated, when you have #metoo, when you have female centered schools, and female centered medical fields, it gets to be lonely and difficult for a man to get help when needed because counselors and psychologists take a feminized approach to trying to help, which rarely helps and almost always makes things worse.

alice55 · Answer

I guess they found it harder to make friends / get a girlfriend which is why they talk about being lonely. Also mental healt for men is usually not considered as manly but as a pussy things so theyre most likely to not seek help when needed;

glennos89 · Answer

Most men are lonely emotionally for sure. Woman don't seem to be wanting to listen to a man opening up his feelings and emotions to her. They rather don't do that with other males aswell and therefore they seek a quite lonely place to cry by themselves whenever they feel sad. It's the safest place for men to be alone during emotional breakdowns

Kayla45 · Answer

I think it’s a self created problem within them as individuals, not necessarily a problem with society.

supercutebutt · Answer

I wouldn't worry about it. Sex robots are coming soon. 🤖

SolitarySolace · Answer

Loneliness affects everyone, sure—but the male loneliness epidemic is about how society abandons men when they’re lonely. Men often don’t get emotional support, and when they suffer, it’s met with apathy or mockery. That’s what makes it a distinct and worsening crisis.  Eva ❤️

LiamS95 · Answer

It can be I'm single and live alone I have a few friends but mostly only interact with them on weekends. Would like a woman in my life.. yes but haven't looked for one since my ex-fiance cheated on me.

genericname85 · Answer

no it's not it's a general loneliness epidemic. and it's caused by the aggressive corona measures that fucked up 2 generations of people in their social and sexual development.

jshm2 · Answer

LOL, no.

People think they can be anti-social bastards to others. But others must still support them like liberals, regardless.

Lonely people are usually people cashing that karma they accumulated, getting there.

BCRanger10 · Answer

I'll say this much. I experienced this personally.

puurikke · Answer

Yes, loneliness among men is much higher than among women. Same as suïcides. These statistics are about a population. So of course there are women who have it worse. But overall, yes loneliness among men is (much) higher.

SmokinAces2000 · Answer

I’m sure it is but the dudes I’ve seen saying that it’s a serious problem are almost always socially awkward and don’t interact with people let alone women.

grega239 · Answer

Women have more support. From the government and society. And yes there is a male loneliness epidemic.  As for women suffering from it too... they made that bed

exitseven · Answer

Most men do not have one single person that they can talk about personal issues with.

JesseP1nk · Answer

Men are entitled? Please continue with your bs

blackeagle007 · Answer

Women are blame. Their unrealistic expectations causes many good men to be single

FreyaRed · Answer

Everyone wants to be entertained. No one forbids a boy have friends and hanging with them together.

Gaylordslav · Answer

I've never had friends and i have no social life or hobbies im not lonely im just bored with life

Anonymous · Answer

Men are living alone just fine. Completely at peace. Women are crying all over social media because they can't afford rent.

WonderingManII · Answer

There is lots of factors to this. Personalities and who are in the circle of people you get to choose from. But men don't seem to have as many friends anyways.

Valdemort · Answer

Pretty certain it is.

Screenwriter · Answer

Maybe men are being more open about it, is all.

Sluttt · Answer

Women are expensive$$$. Even the fat and ugly ones want $$$$. Tranny$$ too. They all are working as a prostitutes

Danny_dan92 · Answer

I think loneliness is affecting everyone. For reasons that both genders are exclusively bringing to the table

Shy_Steve · Answer

Of course Women suffer, You are human. It is just that Men suffer significantly more and we get less sympathy or help from society let alone from you Women, That's all.

Piehums · Answer

It’s just feminist propaganda because women cannot handle the biological truth that women rely on men more than vice versa. Most men are fine being alone doing their business.

fish5505_87 · Answer

I have no clue, I have noticed it in my life and the people I'm around?

PaleDale · Answer

Yes, it's because of isolation and the way everything is virtual now.

Heusus · Answer

Lmao nu der is nu such thing as a l1liness epidemic

Wintersport · Answer

@grlbears and @deadz0ne answers are the only correct ones.

Anonymous · Answer

It could be, we live in bad times.

johnskeer · Answer

Most men prefer being single unlike women.

Slate69 · Answer

Yes it is. I live it every day.

BobbyLee789 · Answer

Isolation.

beefcakebradybatson · Answer

Perhaps.

IHateBeingaMan · Answer

i think it is

usernameooo · Answer

helloo

MasterKS · Answer

Yes why not?

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