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I am a traditionalist, so I think men should pay for the first date. That said, I understand that times have changed, so what do you think?
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Should men still be expected to pay for the first date?
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Men are 100% still expected to pay for the first date, and often the first few dates.
Despite what they say, women almost never go out on a second date with a man who didn’t pay for the first. Something like 85% of women claim that they are equal opportunity date splitters, but over 90% of men say that they have never had a second date when they didn’t pay for the first date in full. So if he wants a second date, he MUST pay. Otherwise, splitting the check is a good way to send the message that he doesn’t care to see her again. But he should fully expect to be dragged far and wide on social media.
Literally nothing about being a man in any western country has meaningfully changed in the last century. Women got their liberation. Men didn’t, and we never will. When men stop being self sacrificing, civilizations topple.
It doesn't matter to me who asks. If I accept an invite from a woman, I'm going to pay for the date. All these whiny little boy bitches who think they're getting "taken" for a $10 coffee date, or a lunch, should just say no. If you think that's her motive, why would you go in the first place?
So if you accept, be a man and just take care of the bill without even bringing it up. I always take care of it before she even knows it paid, even if you don't think you want a second date.
It says a lot about the guy when he does. And I like tradition. It's the foundation of society. If he can't, I don't mind paying the whole thing myself. I won't even make it awkward for him. If I like him, there are many great things coming to him that no amount of money can pay for. If I don't, well, first of all he asked me, we've had a pleasant dinner, I remember him as kind and polite, and he's practiced for the next girl, which is invaluable for him. And sometimes even on those pleasant dinner outings that are going nowhere, he's left with a very satisfying release and a smile on his face.
Im not a traditionalist, I hate gender roles ideas and I don't like unwanted expectations if he pays. I am splitting the check 100 times out of 100. I feel more comfortable that way and if he insists on paying there is a good chance there won't be a second date as he doesn't respect my wishes.
I think normally, men should pay for dinner or lunch dates. That being said, a lot of the time the woman wants to pay. A lady who I dated about a year ago usually grabbed the tab before I could get to it. Each time she would tell me that I could pay the next time. But the next time, she would pay again. She was the type to express almost no emotion, so maybe this was her way of saying that she enjoyed the date?
How about men don't pay for a date at all anymore and have them come over to his house and chill with a coffee and Netflix movie instead.
She sees you have money to support and what your standards living is like and he can see if she is wanting to use him for a free dinner or drink.
That's already happening right now. The women will go to the guy who they are actually interested in house and not ask for a dime.
And the corny dudes take them out on dates and being told to just be friends.
When I stay home I never regret it, but when I use to go out because of FOMO there was so many times I regretted. I stopped doing that in my early 20s and it was probably the best choice I ever made. Now I am the one with the options.
People continually tell me times have changed. You can't do this. You can't do that. This is now the normal. This is expected. Etc.
Honestly... in my daily life, I see none of it.
Women are still women and men are still men. The internet does not reflect real life and certainly not female/male dating dynamics.
People can debate the theory but when the check is due, men who are successful with women front the bill. There is never even a question of whose paying.
I don't know about should. I always did. I didn't care about the money, but I hate accounting in relationships. Nor did I expect anything in exchange. I would be happy to pay for dinner just for the conversation. If there xzdnrbgoni'h to be a second date, I certainly didn't want to kiss.
Both should contribute. One pays for the food and the other pays for the activity so nobody feels used or obligated. Most women that expect the man to pay are abusers, or more accurately pr0$t1tut3s because they are looking for financial gain from it. They have no intention of having a relationship that is a partnership and building a life together, they are just looking to extract resources from a man.
Depends on who asks who out for the date in my opinion. If a woman asked me out I would offer to pay but its up to her.
Whoever asks who out should pay. The other person should at least offer to pay their share. That should be the precedent here. It shouldn’t be based on gender
It’s a left over social custom from a time when women generally didn’t work.
Times have now changed. It’s perfectly reasonable to split a bill now.
"EXPECTED"? No. But it is a time honored tradition. I think it's only prudent that a woman be PREPARED to pay for herself. And the guy should be prepared for that to potentially be the first and last date with her.
I think the person that extends the invitation should pay.
The man should always pay, doesn’t matter if itms the first day 10th date or they’ve been married for 40 years.
Whoever does the asking out should pay or at least offer to pay.
Well I always would bcoz I would be the one doing the asking , so I would consider that part of it..
Convenient rule, if women never ask, they never have to pay.
Whoever has asked the other person out on a date should pay
Normally the guy should pay, but if I ask him out (I never have) I’d be fine with paying the first time
Just prove you're not freeloading. Be capable and Guys would pay anyway
Nope, that makes you a hooker if I have to pay for your time /attention
Expected, no. Though I don't think its a big deal with men pay for dates.
Whoever did the inviting should pay.
Depends on who asks out.
For the first date I think the guy should pay.
I also believe men should pay for first date.
Yes they should
Yes, men should pay for the first date.
I was raised to for the asker to pay.
Yes men should pay for first date
The dating part is unimportant it's the sex part
Go Dutch
Yes sure