Do you think doctors are paid too much or are they paid enough?

[Cherry234]

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Or do you think they should be paid more?

[LaFerrari]

Some MDs are making from $100,000-300,000, so it really depends on what they are and what field they specialize in or if they are in private/government or public.

Neurosurgery doctors are making about $600-$800,000 a year
Thoracic Surgery doctors are making about $550-$760,000 a year
Orthopaedic Surgery doctors are making about $500-$700,000 a year
Radiation Oncology doctors are making about $430-$630,000 a year
Vascular Surgery doctors are making about $410-625,000 a year
Dermatology doctors are making about $455-$590,000 a year
Cardiology doctors are making about $450-$590,000 a year
Plastic Surgery doctors are making about $430-$560,000 a year
Gastroenterology doctor are making about $430-$550,000 a year
Radiology doctors are making about $420-$530,000 a year
Urology doctors are making about $420-$520,000 a year
Anesthesiology doctors are making about $400-$520,000 a year
General Surgery doctors are making about $377-$520,000 a year
Otolaryngology (ENT) doctors are making about $300-$515,000 a year
Oncology doctors are making about $300-$490,000 a year

And the list goes on... I think the amount of skill it takes to be a heart surgeon or a brain surgeon requires a lot of skill. So yes they should be paid a lot to do it. Goes for other specialties as well.

[MTC29]

They are at the top of the professional pyramid. The levels of education between a medical doctor and an engineer (my profession) are nearly equal, as is the internship required to become licensed. Even so, medical doctors tend to be better paid. @LaFerrari listed various salary ranges.

I was a principal engineer (supervising engineer) for a medium sized city and was earning $180,000 annually. I'm sure that sounds like a huge amount of money to some, but it also required a graduate degree in engineering. Even so, my salary fell into the mid range of what MD's are earning.

Are doctors underpaid? Professional to professional, no, I don't believe they are.

[Anonymous]

I’m actually a medical student
Where do I start… it’s so hard? Medical school is very very very hard. It breaks your soul, every day is a new challenge. We cover at least 8 lectures per day. A book Is done in a week.
Exams are very hard. I cry every day. I have no life.. everyone here is worrying about tests and passing.
I’m usually school home and feeling worried every day.
Also , I’m in debt too much loans.
So , no doctors are not paid at ALL. Dr salary should be higher. It has to BE
I have spend my 20s to be here I’m 30 I won’t get paid within 2 more years probably.


For those who say doctors are drug dealers , stop it. When you are at the emergency you go and cry to the hospital to let you in. I know when we are all happy and safe and healthy we don’t care but as soon as you get sick you go to the hospital right away don’t you?

[Cherry234]

We need doctors and you're doing a really noble thing by helping people so you should be proud of yourself. Don't listen to those ignorant people who are calling doctors drug dealers. It's awful that you're in so much debt. One of my cousins graduated from med school a few years ago. But wow I didn't know you cry every day. That's rough. I hope you survive and thrive in med school. Keep at it and you'll get that degree.

[Hallo626262]

Seems like you're not cut for it sorry.

[Cherry234]

@Hallo626262 Why are you discouraging her like that?

[Hallo626262]

@Cherry234 she's not cut for it. You read it yourself, she just isn't. I for one don't want to be treated by some incompetent doctor who are already plentyfull

[Opinion Owner]

@hallo626262 lol competent dr or incompetent is not calculated with how much you cry or feel stressed. You don’t know this world you really have no idea. People don’t even know guys in med school for example take cocaine to stay awake! And this is the beginning. If I weren’t cut for it I was not going to be here and soon graduate. I’m actuality very competent I exercise and eat proper meals and love people I don’t take cocaine and fuck professors around to get a 70. I get the 90 by myself. Trust me you want a dr like me…
Medical school world is very unknown to those who are NOT in medical school very very unknown.

[Hallo626262]

No you're an idiot like anyone else. The drip out rate of medical school isn't so low because its so hard.

[TrueConfection]

I'll give my opinion about U. S. doctors;

Not enough. All doctors have to pay for very expensive insurance policies regardless if they own their own practice or work for a conglomerate. The doctors who wish to own their own practice have exorbitant overhead costs coupled with low "allowance" amounts dictated by the insurance companies. Private practices are becoming a thing of the past and moving to "group" practices because doctors aren't being paid enough to sustain those costs.

[Kaneki05]

Minimum £17,054.4 wage
10 years in total to train to be a doctor.
Doctors estimated per year £84,559 to £114,003
Meanwhile the average wage of a Premier League footballer is just over £60,000 a week, which equates to more than 3 million a year.
Hmm it's almost like... other jobs get paid way more for much more useless jobs.
Because honestly anyone with thinks a doctor should get paid less than a footballer or any kinda sport professional needs help mentally.

Tbh to me a doctor wage been 5x minimum is pretty good but I don't know what jobs exist so there could be easier jobs without such training and all that make 5x the amount of it.

But what i do know just there are other jobs that get paid way more for more unhelpful work rather than the one we actually fully need that surely could be brought way down and actually use that money to pay people who work in NHS and such services.

[dustybiker]

I’ll mix up my answer. This leads my thoughts to an ER. The nurses are running around seeing to everyone’s urgent needs, the doctors sit at the desk on computers for hours on end doing goodness know what. They only make brief appearances ordering tests or giving the nurses more work. As a casual observer one is in debt to schooling, the other is in debt to schooling and being run off their feet. Sure keep the doctors paycheck what it is their decisions can be accurate.. My interest is that nurses eventually get out of debt too. They earn it.

[FilmGuy93]

Meh... I think the amount they're paid is okay, but the overhead expenses of practicing medicine border on the obscene. So they make their money, but they also lose a lot as a simple cost of doing business. What I would really like is to see the destruction of the specialist referral system. Specialists make 2 or 3 times what general physicians make, and those fuckers don't even need to work to get new clients because general physicians refer their patients to relevant specialists within the same HMO umbrella.

[Twalli]

Because if they choose one not part if your HMO it costs you a lot more

[FilmGuy93]

@Twalli Yessir! HMOs are just syringe wielding gangsters; it's a criminal racket.

[Twalli]

Yo don't have to go to a covered doctor.

[FilmGuy93]

@Twalli That's the one thing that stops it from being illegal

[Twalli]

HMOs make your medical expenses much cheaper.

[FilmGuy93]

@Twalli But they're still crazy expensive. It's cheaper in proportion to what it would be otherwise, but you're still paying a good 3-5 times what you would pay for the same services in other countries.

[Twalli]

Because we don't have universal healthcare insurance so it is hit or miss on whether an individual patient will pay. A GI scope costs about $45 to perform. So $50 isn't unreasonable to charge. Except a doctor does 25 in a day and some people can't pay. So they have to charge those that can pay more to cover the work they provide to people who can't pay. Granted they drop that patient, but they don't know if the patient can pay beforehand. Yet with universal health insurance, they get paid for everything. Therefore everyone pays less because everyone else is paying. As for the problems with government healthcare insurance, it's really only Medicaid, which was designed to last about a year under LBJ. So the fact that it lasted this long is impressive. Medicare and the military have some of the best coverage options. So federal healthcare insurance can be good.

[XSea-Sonic]

They go to school for 12+ years, and they spent much of those 12 years in school (they sleep very little). Darwinism at its best. Many many who go to med school wash out, like Navy candidates in BUD/S.

Only the best make it. And of those, the best doctors should be paid a premium. For some reason, republicans are anti-science and anti-medicine, and believe they know more than said doctors. Instead of a vaccine for Covid, they’re taking bovine de-wormer to treat Covid. :O

[Cherry234]

Yeah that sounds pretty stupid to me. I don't see why they don't just take the vaccine

[XSea-Sonic]

Agreed

[Anonymous]

I don't know how good or lousy the medics are being paid. I am not in position to judge this.

However I rather spend all my money on these doctors to cure, help and save me and fix my health problems rather than bitch about them charging us money to finance their living. I know many specimen, that are proof of evolution going backwards, that reject primary paid medical healthcare and keep existing with their disgusting diseases and they also insult the only people, that can really help them but only for money. Those freaky and sick complete weirdos deserve their medical conditions. I feel sorry for the medics.

[jennifer_bloom]

It depends on whether they put their best effort into caring for their patients or whether they neglect the welfare of their patient for personal gain. Like my grandma had a doctor who did not give her pain killers for her bone problems because he wanted to leave work 10 minutes early - that doctor is clearly over paid. My other doctor treats our family like we are catholic saints - that doctor is justly paid - he is very kind towards everybody and smiles 24/7.

[SimplyKayla02]

Kim Kardashian gets paid too much, doctors deserve everything they get. They spend years learning their trade, both in the classroom and the field. They must constantly keep educating themselves on new medical advancements often without any fiscal compensation all to simply save lives. So I say no, they are not paid too much.

[electromagnetic]

I think it depends of the type of work they do and where they work. Private doctors/surgeon ( cosmetically) make a bucket load of money and that’s because they have the market and clientele willing to pay the bucket folds.
Civil servants that work in general hospital, they make money too but lot close compared to the private market. But I think for some, that’s where they want to be in their life. To help people.

[jshm2]

Depends as not all doctors are equal.

I have a palliative care doctor for an uncle, he earns around 300k a year. I have a family friend who is a general surgery doctor, he makes around 100k a year. I also manage contracts for a few care homes and those doctors earn between 350-500k a year.

Everyone talks about doctors like it's some sort of single job. When in fact there are many types of doctors in many different types of contracts.

[t-8900]

Doctors work long hours, they put in a lot of grind to get there too. They are irreplaceable parts of our communities. At the same time medical care is expensive. Leave them be as they are. Work with insurance companies to find better ways to deal with the patient's financial situations.

[Adam1978]

It's really based on the debt you build to become one. If there was no debt building you could consider lowering the pay a bit but they certainly deserve to be in the high pay league.

[Cherry234]

They really do bc of everything they have to go through. It takes a lot of dedication and commitment to become a doctor. Plus med school is expensive

[PoliteSpeaker]

They are paid in direct ratio for the service they provide. A individual doctor is getting what he deserves. And if you own all those doctors you are also getting what you deserve which is way more than the doctors. If the doctor wishes for more money then he must provide better service.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I think doctors who give the best treatment should be paid the highest
I know this Dr. Pepper I would not take a dog to, all he does comes in
for a matter of 5 minutes then walks out, now my doctor now she
takes about an hour before she sees her patients that is how booked
up she seems to be with seeing patients

[andreasderjuengere]

Most "Doctors" are drug dealers - their drugs just are 'sanctioned'.
The medical system is a money making machine where they are happy about each sick customer.
Healthy people don't make them rich.
So for me it's: most ''Doctors'' can go to hell.
The few with traditional medical ethics do indeed deserve a very good income.

[Cherry234]

So you think most doctors are unethical?

[andreasderjuengere]

Yes. If not most: then at least a noticeable and high number of them.

[FunkyMonkee]

Correct! Mom ended up with cancer all over her body. HUGE green and purple bruises all over her back and chest!! All the doctors wanted to do was give her chemo and radiation! She refused both!! As soon as I found out about her condition, I went to the mall next door to the hospital, bought a couple things and made a cure for her!! I gave it to her twice a day for several weeks! After about a week or two of giving it to her, she told me that her Dr. told her, "I don't know what you're doing and I DON''T want to know!! But, whatever it is, keep doing it because your cancer is going away!!" Within another couple months, she was completely clean!!
Now, WHY would ANY doctor, let alone a cancer Dr., NOT want to know what was curing such a severe case of cancer?

[andreasderjuengere]

@FunkyMonkee The moment when an alternative methods officially works, the previous monopoly on ''the way we always did it before'' is broken. It is a monetary and business issue.
Interestingly, I just return from a heart thing. Where I was offered the SAME treatment for 200k (local currency) vs. 1 MILLION from a ''competitor''.
My follow up medication (own research) only handles some symptoms, but won't cure me.
Health ''care'' is basically a lie.
Although - I had also once met ''traditional doctors'' who worked miracles without asking much.
What you did for your Mom was right. Accept my salute.

[FunkyMonkee]

There are LOTS of natural cures that actually work, some have been known about a few, to a few dozen decades! So, why won't conventional doctors use any of them if they really gave a shit about their patients? Every time I hear about someone dying of cancer, I have to ask, why? I've known for at least 3 years now, of a berry that grows in Australia that can cure stage 4 cancer in 48 HOURS!!1 WHY, then, are all these cancer doctors ALLOWING their patients to die? I know of at least 4 cures for covid but, NOBODY in the conventional medical world is using ANY of them to CURE it!!! WHY?
And, why are those that DO use these methods and get great results, get arrested and tossed into jail just for doing so?
Thank you for the salute!! I just wish I could've done the same for dad and my singer! I COULD'VE saved Bob but, nobody would tell me which hospital he was in! I didn't even know he was IN the hospital until a day before he died and I had to hear about THAT from a close friend of the band on the other end of the country!!
Had I just thought of looking for a cure a few days/weeks BEFORE dad died instead of the DAY hhe died, I would've been able to save him, too!1 He died at 81 but no one could believe he was even 61 so, I'm PRETTY SURE he's STILL be alive today, a few days before his 97th b-day!!

[Made4sex]

Lol! This got some great reactions! I personally do see your point though. They get over charged for their schooling (as do we all) in America and most of them make enough in a year to still pay that off in a couple of years… like they save lives literally! They should make a ton. But that is exsecive.

[Surely]

That is hard to say. Since most are in a group and we don’t know how much they actually take home.
The price that is billed to the patients or the insurance is ridiculous from an office visit!
I understand that their malpractice insurance is quite expensive.

[Twalli]

You have to pay more because some people flat out can't pay.

[VTecumseh]

I think we don't have the right to demand someone work for us for less, that's slavery.

So whatever their price is at the moment, in a free country with no price controls, that's the correct price.

[G5TWA1]

dunno about money depends on what they do and where they work but they should definitely work less hours, lack of sleep is the biggest contributor to medical errors

[Cherry234]

Yeah their work hours are crazy. Why is it even legal to overwork them?

[G5TWA1]

not sure, I guess it's because to enter go through med school is so hard that they don't have enough people to do the job, also I don't get why anyone would want to be a nurse, you pay a lot of money and study really hard to essentially become a slave in a place where people are suffering all the time

[Cherry234]

Yeah that's probably the reason why. It's so hard to become a doctor that a lot of people don't even make it to med school

[Ms_Vanderquack]

Are you kidding? Most doctors aren’t paid shit. Not for the education required and amount of work they do.

[MysticDevice]

Honestly I think they should get paid more. For the amount of BS they put up with.

You know who is overpaid though? Athletes. Rappers. Pop Stars. Polititians.