Do you think it is far more beneficial for kids to learn in an environment where there is only their gender, or do you think co-ed education is the way to go? Why do you think that?
Oh boy! I knew one of my research projects for my bachelor's would pay off! Here's the facts:
All GRADE LEVELS should be coed. Full stop.
CERTAIN SUBJECTS appear to show slight improvements in different circumstances but it's all related to stereotypical student BEHAVIOR not educational outcomes.
The data:
Research does not conclusively show that any particular grade level should not be co-educational. Studies have generally found that single-sex education does not provide significant advantages over co-educational schooling. A comprehensive analysis by the American Psychological Association, which reviewed 184 studies involving over 1.6 million students, concluded that single-sex education does not improve educational outcomes compared to co-educational settings.
Research on single-sex education suggests that there MAY be specific subjects where it shows benefits, particularly in environments where gender stereotypes might otherwise influence participation and performance.
STEM Subjects:
Single-sex education can be beneficial in encouraging girls to participate more actively in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) subjects. In co-educational settings, girls might feel less confident or be less encouraged to pursue these fields due to prevailing stereotypes. Single-sex environments can help counteract these biases by providing a space where girls feel more comfortable engaging in traditionally male-dominated subjects.
Language and Arts:
Boys in single-sex schools might benefit in language and arts subjects, as these environments can reduce the stigma associated with pursuing interests perceived as feminine. This can lead to increased participation and performance in these areas.
Behavioral Improvements:
Single-sex education may reduce behavioral issues, allowing students to focus more on their studies without the distractions that can occur in co-educational settings. This can be particularly beneficial in subjects requiring concentration and discipline.
Overall, while some studies suggest benefits in certain subjects, the evidence is not universally conclusive, and the effectiveness can vary based on individual and contextual factors
No, but we NEED to recognize that boys and girls are DIFFERENT and need to be treated differently and have different styles of learning. Boys NEED physical activity, and they often need hands-on learning, rather than sitting quietly at a desk all day. For the last 50 years, schools have been treating boys like they were "broken and badly-behaved girls" instead of like boys. As a result, boys academics have fallen.
I'm not suggesting that boys don't have classroom time - that's needed too - but they ALSO need some kind of hands-on, activity learning every day - something in addition to PE.
I don't necessarily think being segregated is the answer, but recognizing that boys and girls can't be treated the same way (in this case, like girls) would be the right first step.
I have a 160+ IQ and needed gifted classes, as I was small and unathletic, so being around dull-normal types and/or jocks didn't truly optimize my potential.
Research on "learning styles"
Has largely fallen out of favor and/or been disproved. In many nations elementary schools they do the five to one rule where there can be 50 minutes of instruction and then 10 minutes of relaxation or physical activity for elementary grades.
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I disagree that desk classes are worse for boys, I hated PE class, sports, or other physical activities, and I did exceptionally well at science and anything that required creativity, intelligence, and fine motor skills (art, music, woodshop, writing, cooking, computers, etc).
@TheSpaceGnome I never said that boys needed constant sports or PE. I said "hands-on learning", like you might get in a science or art or history class if you are very lucky, and of course that includes various shop classes at older ages. Most boys (and frankly most girls) don't learn much by "reading the chapter and writing out the answers to the review questions" alone, but that's what so much of "school" is today. I also think that music (choir, band, etc.), art, drafting, and other high-individual-involvement classes are also critically important.
If school was 30-40% this kind of learning, you'd see a big increase in interest from the students, and likely far less disciplinary issues. But 6 hours of memorizing and regurgitating is doing far too little good.
They've done studies that show women before the age of 22 perform better academically in same gender classes, while boys do worse in same gender classes. By graduate school, there is no difference between same or mixed gender classes and learning impairment.
Basically, young boys do better when they can "show off", be top of the class, or even socially dominate as class clown. While not all men strive to be competitive, put a bunch of young males in a room and they'll typically find something to compete over...
Young girls however are less likely to speak up and actively disagree (or debate) when in a class with guys. The reason is that girls are more self conscious about being perceived as disagreeble, difficult, a know it all, let alone just being wrong. The first three are negative feminine traits that might be otherwise interpreted in a teenage boy as confident, able to hold his own view, a phase, and/or even leadership potential.
In a female only environment, (as a female) you're just right or wrong, you're paying attention or not. Everyone has more confidence because there's not some idiot with a "prove it" attitude at 8am in the morning in what should be a learning environment.
Great explanation of the misogyny of education! 👊🏻
What about all-black schools?
No. But school would be better if they were segregated by learning ability like they are in other countries. So those that want higher learning are surrounded by others that are interested in continuing education. Those that aren’t are sent to a different school where they can learn a trade. This model is better because then the students that want to learn can do so without distraction and those that want to learn a trade can be engaged in something they want to do. Of course nothing is set in stone and higher education is open to all but at least those who want to learn aren’t hindered by those that just want to goof off.
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What are the benefits and what are the deficits of that? Already there are girls and boys only schools, they’re often private and heavily religious. I don’t think this makes any difference in regards to how well the kids learn, the only difference would be how the kids get socialized.
Knowledge is key!!!
Great take
m It greatly depends on the reasons and how it is put in place. There are all girls and all boys schools, these are grammar / public (private for US lot). It does supposedly remove the stereotyping about what each gender is supposed to excel at. You still get to socialise with the opposite sex, as most share some facilities. My sister went to an all girls school and my brother an all boys ones.
No, there's already people like me who basically life segregated from women and elementary/middle school was the only outlier. After that on the IT academy there was one girl, in my current job there are none. In my hobbies the only girls I meet are from other countries, girls don't particularly care about my hobbies and I don't care about the typical female hobbies. So places where I actually meet them are limited to online encounters and dating apps/events. Remove school from that and there's even less interaction and a lot of social experience lost. At that point I would probably not have known anything about girls since for me they would be some rare species that you can only interact with online, so having a head start where you interact with both genders and know how to behave around them in society is valuable experience.
No, it would be awful.
Girls bullying each other for weight, hair, makeup, and not being “popular enough” would be awful. The more confident & dominant will rule over the weak, timid, and shy. Also cyberbullying would be way worse.
Boys bullying each other with physical violence, threats, pushing each other around also everything going to chaos… Mess. Those more dominant and confident would rule over the weak, shy, timid even shove them in the halls in retaliation. There would be inner factions.
Boys and girls need an escape from stupidity, bullying, and general nonsense that their gender group cause by hanging out with a diverse group that is different to them. Boys & girls are stronger together than apart as my firm belief.
It happens in Coed schools as well no difference. Girls will definitely be safer in an all girls school at least we won't have to worry about being sexually harassed and girls bully each other for weight because of the internalized misogyny and toxic beauty standards created and perpetuated by men.
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I enjoyed my high school even if it's not co-ed. I am also the introvert type but I enjoyed my high school so much.
In my place we used to have all girl, all boys Catholic school. Our grade school same building if I remember correctly there's just partition for girls and boys. Our uniform is pink and the all boys school is blue.
When there's foundation day the guys from the all-boys school would then visit. If they also look for someone to bring in a prom they also visit.
I think it's nice but not all throughout school levels. My high school is just 4 years so it's not like it's a very long time.
My elementary and college it's co-ed. I am glad to experience it because it is just peaceful. I am just focus on my studies and friends. I know people think it's torture but it is not. It's basically hanging out with your female friends or male friends for quite sometime. I think people should try it but again not for a very long time.
There are pros and cons of gender-specific schools.
I went to an all-boys high school. A survey taken indicated that it was good, because we were not distracted by having to deal with girls, yet we had every opportunity to interact with girls. We often went to the girls-only school after school, just a few miles away. Both the all-girls and all-boys schools held coed dances, plays, concerts and plays.
In hindsight, and after watching my kids go to co-ed high schools, the gender-specific schools are better for learning, while the co-ed schools are better for social development.
I don’t think so I feel like teaching kids that the other sex is gross and/or icky is not ever going to help somebody.
If you think it’s to prevent say having sex what about gay and/or lesbian students? Bi kids? Especially if they aren’t around the opposite gender to develop attraction and explore these feelings (not sexual feelings bur romantic ones) and start learning.
Look, to prevent sex kids need to be taught integrity, morals, as well as consequences and if they choose to go out and fuck around as adults they fully deserve the consequences of it. If they have been told what happens and they do it anyways.
When I was in high school a million years ago, a female teacher (she was Dean Of Girls and in charge of being sure girls dressed and behaved "like ladies" in the era's jargon) said she believed co-ed schools (especially high schools, I believed) were better because boy who wanted to get a girlfriend dressed better and behaved less like cavemen.(My words, not hers). I tend to agree, though like many great-looking chaps, I was always really shy around the ladies as is my EXTREMELY handsome 26-year-old great-nephew.
I think co-ed is better because it's more like real life, and one of the main reason I'd send my kid to public school is socializing.
Also yknow, the issue with women's sports and that if all schools were girls or boys schools then that could go the same way, girls schools could start to get less funding again and be less prioritized, leading to girls getting worse education again. Not the fault of girls or boys schools individually, but something would have to consider as a risk.
That is very enlightened that you actually recognize and support the socialization aspect of schooling!!!
@DrPepper12 i learned the hard way lol, got taken out for half of middleschool for grades & shit. Sports & clubs a few times/hours a week are not the same.
Well it doesn't seem to have it affected you any!!
@DrPepper12 thank u! 😊
I do not believe it wise to segregate schools that are currently coed according to gender. Education is Key. That would be discrimination and the magnitude alone would be great. However, I do not believe in "fooling" people, or misrepresenting ones true nature in regards to the male or female gender. With all of the advanced tech; there is much information in regards to individual, gender, preference, etc., that has yet to be discovered or tapped. There are currently all girl schools and all male schools in existence. My personal opinion is, we could all get along if we were Honest: first with ourselves second with others!! Period!!!🙏🫶💓
There are both benefits and drawbacks to having separated genders in class. One drawback is that you might not learn how to socialize with the opposite gender or become over stimulated when you go out into the work force and see all these opposite gender people you never saw before. I also believe that men and women have stereotypically different personalities and you get a more enriched social context if you allow the diversity of different genders into your life.
Yes, home economics and how to be a lady a mid-wife and secretary classes for everyone, with optional special courses for country girls (or whomever) on horses cow goats chickens and butcher skills and auto mechanics skills.
Guys have 6 paths, construction laborer, bureaucrat, warrior, agriculture, doctor, engineer. They must decide by sophomore year. Fair fights with qualified referees are encourages.
WHAT? Are you high?
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Segregation is not needed. What we need is segregation of kids from adults with mental illness that want to brainwash kids into thinking they can be something else other than what they are born with. We don’t need mental illness to spread. Those adults needs a space to themselves with others like them. If a child grows up and wants to be that way then he can join them as an adult, not remain with the rest trying to brainwash other kids to be like them etc.
What brainwashing?
@DrPepper12 telling children that they can be boy or girl or something else and that they can change their private parts. Kids need to learn to read, add subtract, how to form a sentence to communicate properly, not this nonsense about they thems and non-binary and transitioning. Absurdities of the democratic leftists. It’s disgusting and wrong.
That's.001% of any school curriculum and anyway, if a school has that it was approved by the community through their elected board members.
@DrPepper12 that proves you have no children
Actually I have about 2,000 of them in my heart and mind and three biological!
@DrPepper12 are you special needs?
Sure am!! I have special needs to avoid a circular discussion with MAGA
I went to an all girls school. It was shit. The semester I spent at a co-ed school was the best time of my life.
They will be socially handicaped in my opinion... it's better to keep dormitories separate if they provide any, but other than that I don't see the logic behind separating schools by gender... for what reason?
No way I would have to be home schooled then because one of the coolest parts about school is the girls..
And it teaches both about boys and girls and how to communicate how to act and react and how to get along
There are pluses and minuses. Usually schools cannot populations are not 50 50 and resources are limited keeping kids separate falls to private school who can regulate numbers and pull from larger areas than towns and cities.
Absolutely not, there is no better way for girls to learn about bays or vice versa. It's hard enough as it is for guys to learn about girls. Guys are pretty simple, feed us and occasionally give us sex and 99 times out 100 we are happy, it's girls that no guy can figure out or understand.
No. That could lead to gender stereotyping. When I was teaching, I had students learning their identities, making fiend with the same sex and opposite sex, and learning acceptance for each other. I also had some students who identified as trans or non binary, which is the reality the world is headed towards. Students learn who they are through their interactions, and any form of segregation would hinder that.
Definitely not for elementary school, middle school or high school
But I think by the time you go off to college, if you want to study in a gender segregated environment, then that should be your right
Absolutely, it can solve lots of problems such as girls being harassed and leered, or taking away the attention from the true purpose of school which is to learn by getting emotionally involved in the opposite gender. Women will more likely be safer in an all girl school this is not to say there is a guarantee.
School should reflect reality otherwise once you are in reality you are unprepared for the shock of it.
I think it's good to have a choice. But it's problematic to have single sex public schools, because separate is never equal.
no coed is better. if we segregate, people will be kinda ignorant about the opposite sex and won't know how to interract with them
Oh yeah. Let’s teach kids how to be afraid of the opposite gender Great idea 🙄
Let’s be honest, that would be stupid as fuck. You can’t even trust the same gender.
Would prevent a lot of false accusations from happening in colleges if they were segregated by gender..
I don’t care what the whole world does. I only care about what my country does and if there were a vote to segregate schools by gender (men/boys and women/girls) I’d vote yes
No because I believe both gender can learn a lot from the other
No it's an awful idea that makes men not understand women even more and visa versa.
No, that is a good way to screw up a child's mind. They are also usually very religious, which only does even more damage.
Yes i know so... But what will happen with the made up genders😂
They can be put in a hole filled with hermit crabs.
they had that years ago, there were all boys schools, and all girls schools.
It really didn't seem to make a difference.
No, I don't really see any significant benefit of doing that in public schools.
Probably not a popular opinion, but: yes, I think schools would be more productive and effective if the sexes were segregated. Boys and girls act differently when the opposite gender is around.
Those poor ole boys wouldn’t have to worry about being distracted by girls shoulders anymore. So there’s that.
True but incidents of bullying at all male schools is off the charts.
Nope. One of the best parts of the education system is learning social habits and working together. Segregation would only harm society
No, but I do think it's important for extra curricular programs to be gendered.
I don't think so... children develop socially by peer-to-peer interaction. It's important for a a child when they're growing up.
No, segregation by gender, race, or any other metric is always bad for society.
Co-ed is better, it allows you to learn with people who are as different from you as possible
No. Children need to learn how to interact with the opposite gender.
I think it's better for development to be around a wide a range of people as much as possible (I also am generally against private schools in part for this reason)
Schools segregated by gender would certainly be belter for boys because public schools currently are very gynocentric and leave boys behind because their needs are not served likes girls' are.
Absolutely. Boys and girls learn differently.
False.
yes so students can focus on school stuff instead of dating
No, how are you going to learn to interact with people if that’s the case?
I can’t imagine all trans girls school. It would be shit hahahah
People still tape each other. I know all boys school, were a boy was raped by a group of boys with a broom. Too much of testerone, is bad
Schools and colleges are segregated in All Muslim countries, but Universities are not
Yes. Boys are failing academically.
Nooo it wouldn't be fun
Yes. Focus on study increases.
sometimes I thin so,
I wouldn't like it. Girls are eye candy 😍
Yes, women and men should be educated separately.
No way it would be less fun lol
No anon they wouldn't.
No, not at all.
Maybe by sex. Never by gender.
Segregated
The same for the whole of society
It would not
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