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Halle Bailey as Ariel: My Opinion On It (Page 2)
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What if we took a traditionally black Disney charachter and made the red headed and blue eyed. Would that be ok too. After all their just a fictional character! The ham golem SJW"s Wouldent be draw & quartering Disney animators in the streets for doing something like that would they?
Not wit red hair, rather a white girl with an African American Afro. Offensive much? That is really what they are doing just reversed.
They will just call you racist because black characters were a minority of practically non-existant in old Disney movies. As if that makes it any different.
Coming from a black person its just diversity. How many characters have been played by white who are “classy” and then the black characters are played as sassy and ghetto. I glad she’s playing this and not some other white person
@logislit85 But the argument here was completely different. Anyways, I am all for diversity I just don't get why it has to be by forcibly making familiar characters black, why not make new ones like Tiana, her story was original and empowering unlike that of Ariel's.
@morimeme1 It actually does make a difference.. There's very few traditional "Black" Disney characters.. You got quite a few "White" Princesses.. All of this is just whinin honestly..
So you mean tiana and only Tiana?
Either way I don't care but you people clearly do. I'm not gonna spend money to see a few small changes made to an already butchered book.
not black but they DID make Jake Gyllanhall play a Prince of Persia at a time when the Iraq war was fresh in people memory and the US NEEDED good Arab/Persian characters.
@shephardjhon There's plenty more than Jake where that came from... Lol..
@JDavid25 fine but does he even LOOK like the character from the game?
@shephardjhon I was agreein witchu.. They should have gotten a Persian/Iranian actor.. I was just sayin that there's plenty more instances like Jake's where that came from.
Yeah that is true there’s really only one
Black
Princess and not a lot of color
@JDavid25 you really need to phrase your statements properly, then.
Anyone else appreciate the fact the MHO's all have higher dislikes to likes and they all agree with the question asker...
Yes, it was all just a lame attempt to have people accept a blatantly offensive, outrageous, ridiculous move by Disney... a black girl with bright straight red hair 👩🦰 playing a Scandinavian character that was a story told long before Disney.
The most egregious part is that this could only be done to a white character, certainly not a black girl playing Mulan or a white boy playing in Lion King.
@Jersey2 Amen
@shephardjhon I'm pretty sure you just didn't getthe context of my statement since it was pretty clear.. 😉..
@Jersey2 The Little Mermaid the movie is not too much like the original tale.. We don't really know where it takes place.. It most likely could have been somewhere in the Mediterranean or Caribbean sea.. Also there's plenty of "White" characters... And the Lion King are animals... 😂..
@JDavid25 The consistency between the old novel and Disneys interpretation of the "little mermaid" is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. The setting of the movie is like wise means nothing to the core of the conversation. Whats being debated is Disney's and other companies need, to change the skin color of iconic charachters just to meet a diversity quota. If it is such a issue for them that there are not enough non-white princesses why not make new interesting story's with more ethnically diverse princesses. Instead of shoe horning old charachters into a "woke" charachter mold.
I know I'd pay money for it and I'm more than sure there would be much less bickering.
@JDavid25 You know for a fact that blacks would go ape shit if this were reversed. You rationalize it but this nonsense has been rationalized infinitum for the benefit of blacks on every scale... we just aren’t buying it anymore.
Well you don't know that they did it for the sake of diversity.. Maybe thethey want diversity but y'all. make it sound like that's the only reason.. Maybe Halle was the best person for the job.. Maybe they just wanted to change it up, and make it more modern.. You can't just blame "They wants duh diversity in muh "White" movie" on every non "White" castin you don't like..
@Jersey2 You can rationalize it because there's not equal footing on this issue.. There's still plenty of beloved "White" characters.. Still plenty of Princesses.. There's only one "Black" Princess.. And nobody is Particularly head over heels over her.. You act like "Black" people made this castin choice.. It's most likely "White" castin directors.. Blame them if you want..
@JDavid25 stop the shit, you know why they did it. No one buys liberal leftist bullshit anymore... does that make you concerned? No one believes people like you, the bullshit media or companies like Disney... politics will eventually take its toll on Disney just like the undisputed leader in news, CNN, has lost that lead permanently and is way back in the ratings... it takes a while but it happens and then there is no fix for it.
@Jersey2 IDC about all that.. LOL.. All, I know is that I'm tired of all this leftist and PC talk just cause they happen to racebend a character..
@JDavid25 the leftist and PC talk that you don’t like is the new norm. Get used to it.
@Jersey2 Well, yeah I know that.. I can live with that.. Lol..
I am more concerned about the lack of/demotion of MALE Disney leads. Why aren't they burring Atlantis, Hercules, Tarzan, Emperror's New Groove and Treasure Planet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAG9vh3z2VAI am guessing THIS song won't be in Mulan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVuNypWDuKUAnd clearly they want to pretend this never existed:
There were two different styles of Tarzan live action movies, but alright.
@Cheetah23 I meant Disney's Tarzan not some random Tarzan movie.
Yeah I know, but I don't think it's the best idea to have yet another tarzan movie. But that's only my opinion, not wanting to affect yours
@Cheetah2 I definitely understand that. The only reason I want another by Disney is to bring back at least that one song I linked. Think of the last time you heard a female empowerment song, think of how many there. The two I linked are the only non-military male-empowerment songs I could find and one of them is in Disney's Tarzan.
I get that. The original Tarzan after all was definitely a great film with great subtle themes. I guess the only consoling thing about this is that no live action actually is ever better than the original (for me, so far), it probably wouldn't bring out the best qualities of the original anyway.
Ariel is a mythical creature and can have blue skin with green hair and it would make sense. I don’t have a problem with it. However, I don’t think Merida, Rapunzel, Elsa, or Anna should be any color other than white because it would mess with the storyline. Same with Tiana, Pocahontas, and Mulan. Ariel’s only important feature is her singing ability because it’s the only reason the prince falls in love with her and Halle Bailey SOUNDS like Ariel. Even Jodi Benson thinks she’s a perfect fit for her.
If it's between these two, I, too would go the Zendaya route.
But I digress - - - - -
The majority of reboots/remakes/ re whatevers are usually worse than the original, be they black, white, or pink with purple polka dots. Disney corporate has a plan mapped out for the next decade or so concerning all the remakes currently on the books. Cartoons into live action, cartoons into new cartoons, whatever, etc. All seem to center around one thing - making more money regardless of facial shades.
Captain Marvel and Black Panther showed that online trolls don't sway the box office.
And Halle Berry is a talented actress. She would probably be bigger now had it not been for some unlucky casting choices in the 2000s.
Whether the film will be good or not, I don't know. But I can approach it with an open mind.
She's an excellent singer too!
This movie could be her big break :)
It's about consistency. Take a look at this picture, on is not like the the others:
Yes, I hear you when you say that this remake is set somewhere else, but again, consistency. The Jungle Book didn't have its Indian setting ditched for an African one, so why should The Little Mermaid's?
They made a Cinderella movie with Brandy.
My favourite movie as a kid.
Just sayin.'
Disney's cartoon "The Little Mermaid" is so different from Hans Christian Andersen's original story as to be its own entity, so I am fine with what they do with it.
Cool :)
Yeah, the whole, Mermaid lacks a soul and turns into seafoam but she can get an afterlife/soul if a spirit she also turns into does like 300 years of good deeds is really fucking dark and way way different
My opinion is that white actors should play white characters. It’s disrespectful to Danish culture. The Little Mermaid is a beloved European fairytale written by a Danish man. He wrote the character to be white. Blue eyes and red hair.
Someone like Emma Stone, a natural red haired woman should play the part. So no I don’t support it! I won’t watch the movie. Stop black washing white characters.
Ariel is white!
Emma Stone isn't a natural red head. And no one is black washing white characters. It's a story about two different species and them falling in love. It's not really about their skin color
@Nikki69938 Then they should find a natural red haired woman. It is about race because Ariel is a white Mermaid. She’s not black. She has red hair and blue eyes.
And black people can have red hair and blue eyes as well. Tell me would you be mad if you found out they casted a brown haired and green eyed girl as Ariel? Just as long as she's white cause that seems that's all that matters
@Nikki69938 do black people have pale skin like Ariel?
There are some black people that are light enough that they look white yes. And you still didn't answer my question.
@Nikki69938 The answer to your question is yes I would. Only a natural red haired European woman should play Ariel. Also, you’re wrong, black people don’t look European.
Aren't their black Europeans? Didn't know being European meant just white people. And I'm pretty sure in the movie she's sounds pretty American to me. So I'm surprised you watched that one since she's not European
@Nikki69938 Ariel is a white European so only a white European actor should play her.
Ariel is a mermaid so only a real mermaid should play her
@Nikki69938 If you’ve read the story. Ariel is described as having pale skin, red hair and blue eyes written by a Danish man which is clearly white European culture. It’s fictional but it’s a white fictional character and only an actor that fits the role should play her.
@Nikki69938 And Ariel is most definitely not black with dreadlocks.
Maybe your Ariel isn't but today's Ariel will be black with dreadlocks. And she obviously fits the role cause if she didn't she wouldn't have been casted. Her skin color was obviously a non issue
@Nikki69938 It’s not my Ariel. It is the THE Ariel written by Danish author and she is pale skin, red hair and blue eyes 😍
@Nikki69938 The directors made a poor choice because she obviously doesn’t fit the role. Her race should matter. Ariel is not from Africa and not part to African culture.
The Ariel written by someone over a hundred years ago. Times change. And you have no idea if the director made a poor choice. If she can't act then yeah they did but that's all that matters. The movie wasn't portrayed completely off the book but since she's still pale skin, blue eyes with red hair that's all that matters to some people I guess
@Nikki69938 So? It’s his work. It’s disrespectful to use his story and change it however you want. It’s not really the story of the Little Mermaid anymore.
Call it by a different name. The story for be black Mermaid sounds more appropriate.
@Nikki69938 Maybe we should call her Sharquisha the black mermaid. 👍
Wow your racist is really coming out. And that shit happens all the time to many different people of different skin colors. But they bought it and can change it how they want.
Sharquisha really? That's so so so low of you. I guess you have nothing better to say now
Just move on. No one is going to be sad you won't see the movie. Especially Halle the new BLACK mermaid👋🏾
@Nikki69938 I actually know a black woman named Sharquisha. I’d actually watch the story of the black mermaid.
@Nikki69938 Yep! Disney should make the story of the black mermaid casting Halle Bailey. And leave Ariel to a European white woman. 👍
Thanks for letting me know you have a black friend😁. You just won't watch this story of this black mermaid. Makes sense
@Nikki69938 she’s not my friend. I said I know someone with that name. 👍
If Disney wanted to do that they would have
@Nikki69938 I agree they should.
Oh thanks for letting me know that you don't have a black friend but an acquaintance👍
@Nikki69938 No problem 👍
And I just can't wait to see Halle as Ariel in The little mermaid👍
@Nikki69938 Ariel is white.
Not anymore 😄
@Nikki69938 it’s not the story of the Little Mermaid. It’s the story of black mermaid and she’s not Ariel 🙌🏼
Yeah it's the story of The little mermaid. And she is. Just because you don't want it to be true doesn't make it any less then. Ariel is black in this version🙌🏿
@Nikki69938 And I don’t care what Disney thinks. Ariel is white. 👍😁😍
And Disney obviously doesn't care what you think either😁
So I think it's mutual lol
And Ariel is black in the next movie so...
@Nikki69938 They should. I’m not the only one. Many people don’t like it and viewers opinions matter. 👍🙌🏼😄
@Nikki69938 Nope! Ariel will never be black. Ariel is white, pale skin, blue eyes and red hair.
You're not the only viewer honey. They're are billions of people in this world and I'm sure the ones that don't like it just cause she's not white will not make it do horrible in the box office
If you keep saying that enough maybe it'll be true again😂😂
But it's not right now lmao
wow what a way to ruin a fictional character. Ariel will forever be a redhaired fair skinned mermaid to me. I won't be watching the remake out of respect for red haired girls.
Yep, everyone that down votes that opinion is just another obvious racist.
@AynonOMouse those that dislike want her personality but the writer designed Ariel in a constructive way. Started with green flippers, red contrasts well with that so he gave her red hair. Naturally red haired girls have fair skin and underwater they’d be seen more easily as it’s dark down there). I can accept Disney were really quite pro white before the millennium. Why can’t they make a new cartoon that a black girl will identify with. 😑
Funny how all the downvotes are girls. Many of the girls on this website have insane ideas and opinions.
@InTimoreDei you know that video of a man lecturing guys on crazy hot and unicorns 😂😂
The reason why the majority of Disney's earlier characters were White was because they just stole/copied stories that were written by Europeans a long time ago. hen I was a kid I didn't even know that many of Disney's movies weren't even written by Disney. If you look it up, many of them are written by German, and other European writers.
There is a fairy tale series called "The Land of Stories" and it actually shows who wrote those stories/gives credit to the real creators.
@AynonOMouse cheers, i kind of knew where they came from but you were a little more informative.
I'm just sad because I wanted to see the lush red hair. If they can make it sure why not. As long as it's not that atrocity that Starfire was in Titans.
I mean it's not a do or die to have red haired Ariel but it's such an iconic feature and nostalgic trigger from childhood that having such drastic color change is a bit unsettling?
I'm more mad about Mulan tbh lol
why does hollywood have to ruin every movie by making white people black? can't they make a movie about Calvin Ellis instead? at least he was black.
she does kind of look like the mermaids in harry potter in my opinion
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SMH..
@JDavid25 striking resemblance huh?
Not really.. 😂😂
@JDavid25 but hey it made you laugh =)
Damn, there is a resemblance there.
I’m super excited they made Ariel black. I love that little girls of color now get another mermaid to love and want to be. The first Disney animated movie wasn’t even like the original story so the fact that the live action isn’t going to be the same is fine by me.
I personally don’t agree with it. I watched Ariel on TV. She’s a pale skinned, ginger girl. I think a white actress should play the role of Ariel.
I don't care for the change BUT I think this is a great way to make white people feel how Black people feel when White people play what should be a black role😊😊 Ecspecially in REAL LIFE historical events movies👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 even tho I don't really care for the movie, I will still support.
Captain America is going to be black now. Spider-Man was black in the recent animated movie. Hamilton the play is black... I would say that it is now very commonplace to have roles reassigned as black.
@Jersey2 They are just trying to replace Whites. If they want Black characters it's fine, but they should write their own stuff then, not steal what a White person made and replace them.
Ignoring the other replies, when have white people ever taken black roles? Especially in real life historical movies? Apart from it being intentional for comedy (i. e. tropic thunder) I can't think of a single time that has happened
Most biblical events are not really including white people. Yet you have white people playing a whole bunch of biblical characters in movies and just a figures in general. Moses wasn't white, the orignal Hebrews were not white, And Jesus was def not white😆😆😆 And now everyone calls Christianity the "white man's religion" when it is actually the exact opposite.
And not even just movies, white people take from just about every culture and call it their owns.
I don't hate white people bc truth isn't hate speech🤷🏾🤷🏾
Nobody in the bible was black though. Ethnically they were all Hebrew, Arab, Greek, or Roman. All of which are considered white so that isn't really an example.
And yeah white people take from just about every culture and call it their own, that's what every culture does. You wear pants don't you?
Nobody accused you of hating white people lol
You obviously don't read the bible.
In Deuteronomy is talks about what would happen to the tribe of Judah when they go back into slavery. The only people who match up to the tribe of Judah are African Americans.
There was a map back in 1747 that had Negroland on it and it had "Kingdom
of Judah" on it that is where the tribe of Judah fled. That is why when most African americans trace theur blood dna back, it takes them to somewhere in west africa because that is where the Hebrews went to after 70 AD.
And when u look at that map it says "Slave coast" right underneath it. That is where the tribe was sold into spavery and brought to America.
There are no other group of people who has experiences what was prophesied im the bible expect blacks.
White people are actually of the bloodline of Esau/Edom.
But u can research that yourself.
I been past the lies so you can't really convince me with something I've been heard and already debunked a lomg time ago. The Bible is black peoples culture and whites whitewashed it like they do everything else.
You can do your own research. I've done my job😆 Have a nice night!
That is some crazy pseudo history you got but whatever lol
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The Princess and the Frog. One of Disneys first black animated characters.
I think she should be white.
*watches the shit show of how it’s racist she’s not black and how it’s offensive.*
Same thing, no?
Lolololol what? Ever seens song of the south? Disney had black characters since the 60s
@devilman666 congratulations! You missed the point.
White people always have to accept when a race is changed but, the Princess and the frog which is a black princess, imagine the backlash if she was made white.
I thought I made that point fairly clear but lolololol apparently nototototototot
I was replying to the disneys first black animated characters part, but to be fair you did say one of, and disney really hasn't had many. You do make a good point, I mostly just find it funny how everyone forgets that disney did have black characters at one time, even if disney wants you to forget that those characters ever existed.
many people would throw a fit over tiana being played as a white woman... but let it slide when ariel is played as a black woman... the hypocrisy smh
I was exactly thinking the same thing. For me, Ariel is a blue eyed redhead Caucasian. I don’t want a black Ariel, just like I don’t want a white tiana or jasmine. Not really important tho, but you always get comments of peoples who complain about some animated characters because their skin become lighter and bleached. Double standards..
I think Halle and Zendaya would both make an amazing Ariel. As to the colour of their skin: if you look at it ‘scientifically’ it would make more sense for mermaids to be very fair since they are not in contact with the sun a lot and thus would not produce or need much melanin, but since it is a fictional story I don’t think it matters
One thing I love Hollywood for, is how it keeps triggering all these fragile "anti-SJW" snowflakes. The irony of them whining all over the internet and throwing a tantrum because of something like this, is just amazing. :)
About to go drown myself if I see another Ariel thing on GAG.. hopefully I see some actual mermaids
Yeah i will not be watching the movie.
Im not racist at all, i have many black friends and id think theyd agree this is BS., and a disgrace to ariel. Just dumb