Why the next 007 shouldn't be female

[Nadim171]

There has recently been claims that after bond 25 in 2020 Daniel Craig will retire and black female actress Lachana lynch will become the next James bond. I know that because of my pro feminsit beliefs you thought I would support that but as a huge James bond fan I disagree with this. For many reasons

1• it's not about her race

I don't have a problem with the fact that she's black,this isn't the issue. There has been many black bond girls before and i am totally fine with it. Moneypenny is a black woman and she played the role very well.

2• his name is "Bond,James Bond"

"James" is a Male name,you can't change that. A woman called James would absolutely make no sense. And if they change 007's name that wouldn't be the James bond that we know

3• James bond has always been a man

There has been 25 James bond movies and James bond has always been a man. He is stuck in our mind as a Male. Changing that after there has been 25 films since the 60s is stupid.

4• former black bond girl "Trina parks" disagrees

Former black bond girl trina parks who played as a bond girl in diamonds are forever said that she disagrees with lashana lynch becoming the next 007. She said there could be a black bond but a Male one.

5• they could have made another movie

She could have played as another 00 like 008 for example and make a separate movie for her.that would have been fine but i am sorry James bond is a man. A female James bond is like a Male black widow or wonder woman

[NightFlirt]

You are right that a female just doesn't fit the Bond model. It would be like making Wonder Woman a male.
Personally I think the next Bond movie needs to start off with the past Bond getting killed and then having M call in 006 and promote him to 007 and change his identity to Bond, James Bond. This would allow for more believably in the constant actor change of Bond throughout the decades.

[Nadim171]

The movies aren't connected. Bond gets a new girl in every movie yet we don't know what happened to the one in the older movie lol

[Bananaman177]

That's not how the "double-O" system works, there is no 006.

There are three double-O agents. 007, 008, and 0011.

That's right, double-oh-eleven.

It's all in the books, which are much, much better than the stupid movies, especially the ones from the 60's and 70's which are like bad comedies more than spy thrillers.

[Bananaman177]

Read the books, Nadim.

In the books, you always find out what happens to the girl.

[HereIbe]

I think the next movie should begin with some random horny bloke lying on a pile of naked women, pouring bourbon all over himself. Then SMERSH busts in (don't think too hard), and he uses the women as human shields, getting them all shot to pieces, while he makes his daring escape.

THAT should make the fanboys ultra happy.

[Kavya190]

I agree! James Bond is a man

[leahzrc]

I didn't read the whole thing but I think that characters should stay true to who they were brainstormed to become. I am a feminist and I support the black girl as the little mermaid, but I think that if genders are swapped, it isn't the person that the character was meant to be. Imagine if they made the little mermaid a man... I am all for different races playing different roles (unless it is taking place at a certain period in time that historically innacurate), but I think the gender or sex or whatever of the character changes a lot about the background and experience of the character. I think the ghost buster film with the ladies wasn't the worst idea, because the characters were literally different people, but 007 is 007... If they really want a black woman to play a badass spy kind of character, they could have easily added her to the story or wrote a different movie script for the actress. Just my thoughts on it

[MoneyBeets]

A feminist who is retarded and ugly. Imagine my shock

[leahzrc]

Are you talking about me?

[Nadim171]

She is not retarded and not ugly. Remeber when you said finding an attractive feminsit is impossible? I just found one

[leahzrc]

I don't understand how i am retarded for what i said

[Nadim171]

You aren't, but no offense, you are if you take him seriously

[leahzrc]

Okay i guess im retarded then...

[Nadim171]

No I didn't say so, you didn't take him seriously

[leahzrc]

I took him seriously, when someone calls me a retard, I really think that they are calling me retarded...

[Nadim171]

Well sorry then, you're not a retard if you take him seriously

[Okami_Kitsune]

So maybe its dumb but James bond was kind of one of my child hood heroes. I played the shit out of golden eye and the worlds not enough when I was a kid and I watched a lot of the movies. Personally Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan were my favorites. I think James bond should be a white Male. I'm not racist, and I certainly think there should be plenty of badass heroes from other races. But create new characters, dont change existing ones to appear more politically correct. To me it just feels like they're kinda shitting on the legacy of James Bond so they can be politically correct in 2019.

[Curmudgeon]

What is truly sad is that recent Bond stories have made Ms. Moneypenny Afro-British, or would that be Caribbean British, and have made the Miss Moneypenny character a field agent in her own right, and not just a desk worker at MI-6, as she was in the original Ian Fleming novels. If I were the actress Naomie Harris, who plays this new Ms. Moneypenny, I would be annoyed, as her character is now being shoved aside.

My biggest problem with trying to remake Bond like this, besides the obvious fact that Bond is a hetero male to the core, is that the Bond character came out of the British upper classes, and remaking Bond as a nonwhite (and not upper crust) just does not work there.

Could there be a secret agent from the UK lower classes, and an immigrant or ethnic female? Sure. But that means a whole new character.

[MajesticTwelve]

He should be a he, and he should be white.
Sorry, but the reality is, white characters should stay white. Current year politics be damned.
You want to watch white panther? Think people would scream bloody murder then? (that movie SUCKED by the way)
The whole world is garbage these days and liberals and SJWs are all to blame.

[Nadim171]

I agree but in James bond's case not much, since we already changed his hair color and age a lot.

[NightFlirt]

That's because 007 is a rank which has been assigned to different agents due to them getting too old or dying in the field.

[HereIbe]

Dear idiot, prove that the RANK/DESIGNATION "007" means "male" and "white".

[Nadim171]

Fuck you Herelbe, fuck off! Leave her alone. You keep cussing people for simply disagreeing with you. Go fuck yourself

[HereIbe]

Awwwwww, how CUTE, the inbred little FANBOY is white knighting. Let me explain something: She is NOT going to fuck you.

[NightFlirt]

@HereIbe I was referring to the individual who was talking about the change in hair color and age of the various Bond's throuhout the movies.
As for Bond being male I have never heard of a woman named "James" should we just change the characters name to "Bond, Jamie Bond"? Mr Bond is a well known "Ladies Man" so Mrs Bond would have to either be a lesbian or a "Slut" Before you can go changing up an established character you have to look at ALL the aspects that make up that character. Making Bond Female simply dose NOT fit with all that has been done with the character both the movies and in the books from which the movies were originally based.

[Nadim171]

You know I love movies with badass females, even lesbian females. Atomic blonde had that and it's an awesome movie. But James bond is James bond and should stay as James bond

[HereIbe]

@NightFlirt, dear MORON: Are you REALLY SUCH A STUPID WASTE OF DNA that you think "007" MUST be named "James"? How the FUCK did you get to be so stupid?

[NightFlirt]

I agree.

[Kurαȷ]

I don't mind a female 007.
What I do mind is a female 007 who is a 4/10 on the appearance scale.
I'm sorry to the actress, but she is quite unattractive, which makes her entirely unfit to portray a character which is essentially all about sex appeal.

[devilish-cutie]

Daniel Craig is honestly not hot either

[mermaidrocketship]

Every time they remake a male character as a female, it backfires. I don’t want to be pandered to. I just want a good movie. If they wanted to change up race, there are so many black actors. Chadwick boseman, anyone? Maybe an Asian guy. Or Latino. But a woman? For what reason?

[HereIbe]

Yeah, that's why Jody Whittaker's Doctor is doing so well.

[Curmudgeon]

@HereIbe except that she isn't. Try to think these things through and not just be your asshole self. Characters have "back story", and when you cast characters, you have to respect that back story to make it work.

[Britantic]

It seems a bit weak. Why couldn't they make movies about a female secret agent rather than appropriating the idenity of James bond.

[HereIbe]

They aren't, you moron. "007" is just a designation for a field operative, NOT A NAME. NOT AN IDENTITY. You're stupid.

[NightFlirt]

@HereIbe Yes 007 is a designation but to date there has never been any explanation for the varying ages and physical differences between all the actors that have played 007. Now if you "KILL" James Bond, actually show him being dead and then promote a woman to 007 you might be able to get people on board with the idea of a female 007. It would still however change EVERYTHING about the character.. There has to be logical explanations for any changes you make or the movie will bomb in the box office.

[Nadim171]

It's their money anyways. They'll loose tons of money if they do that because that's not what their fans want

[NightFlirt]

There's nothing wrong with them creating a New character based on a female MI6 agent

[Nadim171]

Exactly, but not James bond. I watched atomic blonde which is the female lesbian version of James bond and i loved it

[Reaperbot666]

A while back Idris Elba tried to see about playing bond. And my thoughts about him doing it was. If they won’t let him be James Bond 007. Why not one of the other 00 agents as a spin off movie to the franchise.

Same with this lady. Should could play one of the other agents. I mean there are 9 00 agents. And only other one to ever be in a movie was Sean bean as 006 in golden eye.

[Nadim171]

Exactly

[HereIbe]

Silly butthurt little fanboy, "007" is a designation, NOT A NAME, you silly butthurt little fanboy. I get it, you have no life of your own, so you have been living vicariously through a fake, watered down, sissified James Bond. Come back when you're living like the Bond in the books.

[Nadim171]

To be a fan of something doesn't mean you should be it. Batman fans don't hang out in batman clothes. Go fuck yourself.

[HereIbe]

I get it, you're all butthurt because you have no self esteem and are a very weak, sad, little boy. Your butthurt is funny.

[Nadim171]

Go fuck yourself.

[HereIbe]

How adorable, the pathetic little fanboy is still butthurt because he has no life and a female 007 THREATENS him.

[Nadim171]

Hey by the way the problem is that his name is James bond, you can't name a female "James"

[HereIbe]

"James"? That's as stupid as saying that no woman could be US president because "George" is a man's name.

[HereIbe]

As has already been pointed out, bonehead, "007" is an official designation, not a name.

[Nadim171]

James bond in all movies is supposed to be the same agent... you can't replace an agent with another and call him the same designation.

[HereIbe]

Prove that someone else can't be given a designation. SHOW THE EVIDENCE, you moron. Show the hard evidence, NOT FROM FICTION, but from the real world.

[Nadim171]

You know Herelbe I've been thinking about you, your lifestyle. The way you talk, the things yog post, the opinions you have...

[HereIbe]

And you want to BE ME! I KNEW IT! Yes, I AM YOUR GOD! KNEEL BEFORE ME--but not too close.

[Nadim171]

No no no, that's not what I'm talking about. You Herelbe are a hipster

[HereIbe]

No, I'm a curmudgeon. We're much more teddy-bear in person, and girls just love us, even when we really do not want all that attention, geeze, go back to your boyfriend. I got a wife and I don't need young things like you telling me how cute I am!

[Nadim171]

Hipsters love saying that they're not hipsters

[Harmseygrace]

You sound like a girl using a mans account

[HereIbe]

@Harmseygrace, yes, Nadim does sound like a little girl, but I think he's just a bitchy little sissy boy.

[Harmseygrace]

@Herelbe I mean you mate

[Nadim171]

Lamo... well he's not a girl, just a hipster with a complicated sick personality

[Snakeyes7]

What is wrong with Daniel Craig? I think he makes a fine James Bond. Since changing the race and gender of an already established character does nothing to the story, they have no other reason to change him besides the possibility that they had a problem with him being white and male. I would be fine if the change makes sense in the context of the story or if Bond’s new girlfriend was black, but I see no reason to change him besides tokenism plain and simple.

[Nadim171]

It's probably because Craig began to get old or he's going to retire

[Snakeyes7]

If that’s the case then that sucks. DC played Bond really well.

[devilish-cutie]

I dont mind female bond, i just hope who ever it is that delivers.
I was unhappy when they choose Daniel Craig since i dont find him attractive at all but he wasn't bad.
I also couldnt imagine heath ledger as joker but damn.

[devilish-cutie]

I do agree tho that female like 006 agent would probably be better idea, like we can have that and 007
they could also interact together

[Nadim171]

Yeah exactly but I mean I don't like it when they change a Male character to a female one or the opposite. Or a black one to a white one or the opposite I just like the characters how they originally are

[Nadim171]

But that's defenatley not because I'm sexist or anything like that. I love badass women in movies, whether they're black or white it's just that they can make their own characters

[devilish-cutie]

i dont think you are being sexsist or racist, its just your opinion that character should be as it originally is
I do wish they make films for all james bond books with one character as he is described in books

[Nadim171]

I wish so too

[Anonymous]

that would pretty much guarantee the failure of the next James Bond film like it has for every classic movie that has been remade as a feminist joke. i have to agree with everyone else who is saying you are a girl that's very obvious now why do you hate men so much and why do you pretend to be one if you hate them anyway?

[Nadim171]

"All the people are": You, and you without anonymous, and then you again.

[Opinion Owner]

um no but i'm sure you would like to think so

[hansukota]

James Bond was a guy! He always was! Why make a girl 007? It will just ruin the entire franchise!!! If needed, the could make another series of movies concentrating on girls, for eg Charlie's angels..

[DollySummers]

I agree. Could be any race, and I wouldn’t care. But has to be a man. A bold, and sexy man.

[DollySummers]

With a suave suit, and the attitude, and personality of a perfect gentleman. Along with a ladies man.

[HereIbe]

Viola Davis?

[DollySummers]

No. But I think she is the African American version of Emma Watson. Never heard of her till now. I googled her. I actually think Jesse Williams should be the African American 007. He is like mixing a alaskan husky, and a shiba inu together.

[DollySummers]

https://images.app.goo.gl/7zUtJVDoK8CoYix68

[Nadim171]

Don't compare anyone to Emma Watson.

[DollySummers]

Kay.

[Gedaria]

It just wouldn't be James Bond. The whole concept is male driven. Like Super Woman I enjoyed it but sadly it fell on it's face for the same reason. We compare but it's like comparing , cats and dogs. Both likeable but nothing like each other...

[A-man-22]

I agree, keep to the character origins or make a new one.
That's my opinion on all this "diversity" forcing.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

"The name's Bond bitch! Jane Bond! You rememba dat next time I bust a cap in yo ass, homie!

[0oGreyo0]

Yeah I dont really care about 007 at all. But it seems like it should be a white British dude. They could have just made this lady a spy in that movie and spun it off not even called 007.
I see this going like female ghost buster.

[Chuck21]

It's all bull shit. Black superman , black spiderman,007 woman. I think it's hollywood gonna Lazy and has lost it's creativity. Being original is stating to be a thing of the past. Just copy and paste with a twist.

[Kenwoodman]

I hope it fails massively and loses lots of money. I am pround antifeminist and James bond is a macho good looking white guy not an extremely bad looking black woman.