Star Wars: The Prequels or The Sequels?

[Ripper_E]

Personally I prefer the prequels over the sequel and original trilogy
So prequel trilogy for me

Prequel Trilogy

Sequel Trilogy

[Ogopogo]

The Phantom Menace is an alright movie with some important origin material and an ingenious twist. What many people don't understand is that Qui-Gon not only defied the Jedi Council and foolishly saddled an apprentice with a student, but that at the end of the Darth Maul fight, Maul was trapped and effectively defeated. Qui-Gon meditates on the situation for a moment and in that moment gives in to fury, emerging with a desire to murder a prisoner. This is a full-service Dark Side moment and it is the cause of all the terrible things that happen later.

Episodes II and III aren't even real because they are based on an absurdity: Watto, who was willing to bet Padme's ship against either Anakin or Shmi but not both, clearly felt that all three were of equal value - yet no one thought to bring the damned ship back and trade it for Shmi. A trip which would have taken perhaps a day. This after Anakin rescued Padme's wealthy planet from occupation and war. Ten years go by, and no one thinks to go back for poor Shmi. This ruins the two movies entirely and makes them impossible.

The Force Awakens is similarly ruined by the idiocy of the Han Solo arc. Han Solo - who risked his life for his friends in Episode IV, who then gave years of his life to the Rebellion, and then finally was willing to die by torture in Jabba's palace - somehow cannot be relied upon to properly sire a son or even check in on him once in a while, but instead flits off to be a bottom-feeding smuggler again. Bullshit!

Solo, on the other hand, is an underrated movie which I think does the character justice and includes many good sequences and likeable characters. In the final reckoning it will be seen as the fifth best in the series, after the OT and Rogue One, which is a near-perfect film and my personal favorite.

So there's your answer: There is only one Star Wars trilogy, but if you view them as a set the other three movies are almost as good.

[Ripper_E]

The biggest issue with the Prequels is the dialogue, not any of that nonsense, because issues like that can be found with every movie if you look hard enough. They are real and they are trilogies whether you like them or not. If the only Star Wars trilogy to you is the original, then you should be able to find more than enough to erase it from existence as well, being that the others aren't real.

[Ogopogo]

People have been picking apart the OT for decades and what you claim is inevitable hasn't happened, because the OT is internally consistent, doesn't meaningfully contradict its own logic, and respects the sanctity of its character arcs. The entire premise of Episode II requires everyone in the movie to ignore travel distances and motives firmly established in Episode I, and it cannot exist within the same story.

The case against Episode VII isn't as strong, but that movie also violates the established rules; admittedly in ways a sensible viewer could fairly chalk up to creative license, were it not for the fact that the creator was shut out of the process - justified entirely on the grounds that a corporation now owned the IP. While this is legally and perhaps even morally sound (tell that to The Beatles) ownership isn't canon. Almost everyone who has cared about Star Wars since Lucas was in control views the sequels as high stakes fanfiction, and that's where canon comes from. Not corporate ownership, audience consensus. And sorry but this also applies to your extended V. C. Andrews collection, and that bitchin' fight scene with Legolas in the second Hobbit movie.

[Ripper_E]

What are you talking about?
What does travel distance have to do with anything?
The original trilogy is extremely simple. These are the good guys and those are the bad guys and the bad guys lose. Character arcs are boring and simple. Fights are boring and simple. They do not go into the Jedi or Sith. It's just good guys vs bad guys. Cliche guardians of peace and justice.

Canon does not have to be liked. It doesn't have to be good. Dragon Ball Super is Canon and it isn't anywhere near as liked as Dragon Ball Z, and retcons some things from the previous series as well as ignore rules and struggles of previous character arcs. It is still Canon.

[ManOnFire]

The prequels are way better than the new movies, although Rogue One was spectacular and is the best movie of all the new ones done by Disney. I like the prequels too but I am one of the few people who actually likes The Phantom Menace. Of course Episode III was the best out of them but I did not like Attack of the Clones.Interestingly though, I find it funny how now that Disney has ruined Star Wars, so many fans now want to show allegiance to the prequels even though for years they wanted to hate on them.

[October808]

Not one person loses a limb in Disney Star Wars.

Animated Clone Wars TV series (skip the movie) really is superior to the films. It shows Darth Maul's race, his brother Savage Opress and all the strange Sith lore you see in Knights of the Old Republic. It even shows the fall of the planet Mandalore. Animated Rebels (pre-A New Hope and post Fall of the Old Republic) has the MOS amazing lightsaber duels ever between Darth Maul, Ahsoka Tano and Darth Vader. It also has the encore meeting between Maul and Obi-Wan.

Prequl movies still better than Disney Star Wars though.

[SnapKracklePop]

I loved episode 1 the most, even jar jar (still thought they should have made him a Sith Lord).

I like all the movies save for E3 as I find Anakin to be out of character joining the sith as DV. I realise he had too but I fell they could have made a better motive than that.

[blutwolfe]

He was actually supposed to fight Yoda in episode 2 instead of dooku but he had a bunch of backlash.

[SnapKracklePop]

It would have fit so much better since he was going into politics as well. Plus he had this uncanny ability to not die on the battlefield when he should have by all rights.

[blutwolfe]

ya and the way they just eliminated him in a Disney book instead of saving him for the next trilogy, I don't know why they eliminate all their opportunities. Just like Asoka tano was alive but instead they killed her off in the new movie as a force voice

[IAMNathanael]

I prefer the prequels. Sure, they've hot corny dialogue and stale acting but at least they have consistency and actual character arcs.

[manofstyle]

The prequel trilogy is a flawed but interesting story with something meaningful to say. The sequel trilogy is a high-budget fanfiction.

[MrKinktastic]

Prequels for me, though the originals spaghetti western feel was the very best in my opinion.

[Ripper_E]

I like them, but they are overrated to me. They are the quintessential films to see if all of them, as they started it all, but not as good as many make them out to be in comparison to other films.

[MrKinktastic]

I think mostly they were super innovative for their time and raised the bar on what people expected from their sci fi movies

[Ripper_E]

On that I agree

[Jackblue]

I liked the fact that the original series showed the gradual change of the republic into the Empire and explained a bit about the culture and politics of the galaxy.

[RedThread]

The first and second of the prequels sucked way too much for me to say prequels. I'm no lover of the new ones either.

[Tomsta]

Original trilogy beats all

[Ripper_E]

I disagree, but cool

[Tomsta]

Why do u disagree?

[Ripper_E]

I like the originals, but they are too simple. These are the good guys and there are the bad guys, who are extremely incompetent. I never really care for any of the characters, except Vader and Solo. Action sequences are bad. They don't go into depth about the Jedi, except they were once the guardians of peace and justice. Luke trains a bit on screen and that's it.

[Tomsta]

Ill agree with the incompetant it. It spawned the meme about stormtroopers can't aim

But there is theories out there that the reasom was cos they were instructed to not kill luke

[Tomsta]

Also action has never been a good point in star wars. Either looks to messy like ep 7 or to choreographed like ep 3

[Ripper_E]

Those theories don't make any sense
Choreography in 3 was great. At times it looked a little too much but you take the good with the bad. Overall it was great. The main issue with the prequels were the dialogue. The sequels looked great. That's pretty much it. They were visually appealing.

[Tomsta]

We dont talk about ep2 dialgoue

[Ripper_E]

I meant all of them. Attack of the Clones has the worst.

[Shamalien]

literally shedding a tear over the acknowledgement of the prequels as better. We've come a long way since the initial hype of the poo awakens

[Piteka5]

The prequels are my favourites, over the sequels and the originals

[Anonymous]

Yeah i think I prefer the prequels too, which is odd because most people hate them

My favorite line from the whole star wars series, is in the 3rd episode

[Ripper_E]

What line?

[Opinion Owner]

She says "so that's how democracy ends, with thunderous applause". It really speaks to how the u. s. is headed towards dictatorship under this "president"

[DeeDeeDeVour]

I loved Episodes 1 through 6.

[Anonymous]

Yea... To much PC cult influence ruined the recent films. Get woke go broke LoL

[captainwaffles7]

GuYs its A cHiLdRenS MoVie AboUT sPaCE wiZaRds

[Ripper_E]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xAUfdK9FE

[captainwaffles7]

That's a great reply! Don't worry though, my comment was intended to point out how ridiculous the statement is to make.

[Betti]

Oh hahha today I watched star wars😍

[Ripper_E]

I started. I missed them.

[yucychan]

Neither. I prefer the originals.

[Myonzon]

The Clone Wars prequel is the dam best!

[TheFlak38]

this one is easy. Prequel trilogy.

[HollyF]

I love democracy.

[Ripper_E]

[Richard20]

Prequels are hands down better