Do you think having a very attractive woman remove articles of clothing as a reward for finishing a video game is bad?

[Still-alive]

this used to be the reward in a couple of the earlier Metroid games. you beat the game under a certain amount of time and you get to see the main character without her full suit on and in a bikini/underwear pretty much. the latest one doesn't have this reward anymore.

Think this is a bad way to reward a player for winning a video game?

Yeah thats bad, it shouldn't be a reward for winning a video game

No thats fine for a reward for winning

It depends (please explain)

A total of 61 votes were cast: 16 girls and 45 guys. See detailed results

[DonkeyDan]

Back in the day when the internet was new there were a handful of flash games that did that, each part completed would reveal a photo of a woman with one less item if clothing until they were naked. That was fine by me at the time. Not much internet porn around then, most pictures on naked women were only available via newsgroups on email. Probably before you time to remember that. But you subscribe to the newsgroup and tick all the messages you wanted to download that had attachments and then wait hours for them to download, no instant gratification back then, you had to work for your porn 😂

[MuddyMole]

I think it was just one of those very nineties things. It would be ridiculous today, but you have to remember that back when that was common, porn wasn't nearly so accessible. Before the internet, all teenage boys had to jerk off to were pictures in "lad's mags" like FHM, Maxim, Loaded, etc (as if anyone read the articles!). Before that, it was the lingerie section of your mum's fashion catalogues and gratuitous but highly-pixelated nudity in video games. Before that, it was probably scantily clad elves and succubi from Dungeons & Dragons. And before that, who knows? Maybe a nice Modigliani...

[wittymilf]

😂😂😂 oh my the irony! I think of the amount of very attractive real women who strip down in front of their video game addicted partners to get attention… and get completely ignored btw… all because he wants to see a picture of a pretend hot woman take off pretend clothes.
This is gold!

[purplepoppy]

So that's why gamers look confused when my clothes don't fall off

[Shizunk]

This doesn't seem to be a reward. But imho if it was designed as a reward, it influences the genre. If you have a very adult violent game full of immoral things on screen and there are a few semi-naked scenes, it would be hard to complain. Or if it is a main mechanic somehow, officially a part of the story.
But a normal mainstream game with 0 spicy content with suddenly a bikini reward at the end, that sounds like a bad idea. It's not worth any amount of complaints from players to keep that thing in just because.

[Esten]

Back in those days, most of game was more for boys and especially in Japan (till today, games are for boys and girls... does not mean only specific sex can play it, but you understand...), so naturally they maybe added something. Also, given the time and age, nobody really cared. Nowadays, people do not even play those game, never completed it and nag about "objectifying"... yeah fuck off. It is made up BADASS character, that till the Metroid Dread did not even said much... it gives her some kind of humanity.

[BrosephBrostar]

Isn't this really just a Metroid thing, and even then, only included in the first place because it was inspired by the ending of Alien and Aliens?

As for what Dread substituted it with, I don't necessarily mind replacing it with homages of previous games, I am a sucker for that kind of sentimentality, but it is a series tradition, and I can't help but wonder if it was changed for the current cultural zeitgeist.

I don't even have a problem with series tradition being broken if there's a good reason. For example, getting Morph Ball so late was justified because you could slide through crevices now. That shook things up a bit. But "Samus can't look sexy because REEEEE male gaze!" Yeah, that's not a good reason.

[Effably]

Should it be the norm? No. Is it fine? Sure. It is sort of used in a lot of games. Do X, bunch of extra stuff, pay attention to dialogue and you get the romance options and progression. Often accumulating in some little cutscene with said character exposed. It is a reasonable reward that most everyone likes.

Naturally there are classy and less classy ways to do it.

[ChiTown33]

I remember that! Refresh my memory. Didn't she have a one piece then if you finished in a quicker time she had the bikini. I seemed to remember it that way. Because I kept playing trying to finish the game faster to see if she'd shed a little more. Oh Jr. High and the things we would do just to see some pixelated boob.

[NoOneEver]

The purpose of it was to be a shock and reveal that it wasn’t a man battling an alien horde and being badass and saving humanity. Etc..

removing the reveal makes some sense as Samus has become an already widely known character. 🤷‍♀️ In my opinion it’s neither good or bad that they removed it.

[snackthatsmilesback]

I can see how presenting a person being sexy *as a reward* could be problematic.

It sets a flawed expectation, because in almost no circumstance should that be the case irl (the exceptions being... some party games? I can't think of any others really).

There must be plenty of ways to put sexiness in a video game without making it a reward.

[OfDeath]

Lol it's a basic law of human courtship for a woman to present herself as being sexy as a reward.

[kqueen]

@OfDeath no it's not, tf

[snackthatsmilesback]

@OfDeath where? When you build a relationship? That should be working together. You don't work for the other person and get paid with rewards. That's a boss and employee. That's an owner and a pet.

Do you know how a healthy romantic relationship works?

[VDrago14]

I don't see anything wrong with it, and there's nothing wrong with a little fan service. The fact that Samus is still one of gaming's strongest female protagonist speaks volumes to the franchise. If she wants to remove her arm or after a hard-fought battle cool.

[Adam1978]

I think many will take this topic out of context. Completing metroid under 2 hours to reveal the fact that there was a woman in that armour all the time. It's a piece of the lore and isn't anything sexual. So how can it be inappropriate? Today it's common knowledge that she is a bad ass bounty hunter. So there is a female hero from the time video games was seen as a boys toy.

[Still-alive]

if you beat it normally you still see her face though and by the time super metroid came out it was common knowledge

[Adam1978]

Wasn't there three endings depending on speed. If your slow enough she didn't even do that. Besides a head on a tincan could mean a robocop kind of woman.

[crazy8000]

For some is it bad.
Some other's something to make them finish the game.
You also have those that doesn't care since finishing is their reward.

It's an old technique to target male geeks to play the game. more specific buying the game.
Rarely has to do with the game in itself. just a added gimmick to sell.

[TallAnon]

Zero suit Samus was awesome, also my Super Smash Bros favourite.
I don't see the problem, the target audience is guys 16-30, this target audience likes hot girls. Why would it be wrong to play into this?
It was actually very awesome when it was revealed that the main character was a woman, if anything they were ahead of their time with that.

[Hairylegs222]

Having a real girlfriend do that for me is 1000000000000000 times better 😀

Conversation:
"I beat Doom Eternal"
"Good job my love ❤️, wanna see my boobs as your reward?"
"YES 😍"

[menina]

If it's a just a character from a game I see no problem. However if it was a real woman, it wouldn't sound right to me.

[BlacklightShade]

As long as the bit depth doesn't get reduced along with the clothing.

[t-8900]

Yes it's insulting thats the reward you get when you can go on your browser and see far more variety and better without having to earn it lol

[EmbraceThePain]

Is bad? No, not really.


Personally though, I don’t care.

[kqueen]

Unless it's specifically an adult video game that seems pretty inappropriate/gross

[OfDeath]

It wouldn't fly now in the current culture of being fashionably offended, but when I was a young male child, it was definitely an incentive for me to play it.

[jshm2]

Isn't that the premise of virtually every waifu game?

[JosyJosy]

Kinda, I'd like some Overpowered weapon or skill to totally dominate the level

[FinalFantasyBro]

I love it, I logically don't see anything wrong with it.

[boobliker]

Why should any clothing be taken off, it not a good thing any way you look at it.

[OfDeath]

Said by a dude who calls themself boobliker. Just saying.

[boobliker]

@OfDeath yes Boob liker real ones not flat ones on a screen

[Wise4myage]

B. I’d all for it as long as she agreed and knew the rules.

[Snakeyes7]

Oh no you get to see different pixels if you do better at a game. The horror!

[boxxie2002]

It was pretty awesome back in the day, but not really a good idea

[electromagnetic]

If princess Katana is doing it then yes please.

[NathanDavis]

to me, this is just Japan being Japan...

[Kaneki05]

How could fictional hotness be a bad thing?

[Gwenhwyfar]

It’s fine but there should be a guy option too

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

No that's fine for a reward for winning

[MountAverage]

Sounds pretty dumb to me.

[Cherry234]

That's a fine reward

[ChiPaPa]

It's just weird

[tripptt69]

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