So that means you can’t really be just friends with them them since you have feelings that you’re keeping inside which could always cloud your judgement when giving advice. Hence, not making you a very good friend I believe. Well it’s just my opinion anyway. Cheers! :)
@rlsleuth3 - Nope. I never let it cloud my judgment. For instance, if I was attracted to a friend but they were attracted to someone else, I'd help them possibly get with whoever they're attracted to. And this has actually happened before.
Because if I really want them that badly, I'd have already told them that I wanted to be more than friends. But I just don't value dating & marriage as highly as other people do. So I'm completely okay with not doing that stuff. And I'm also completely okay with missing the opportunity to do anything sexual since there are so many people in the world.
But that would only work if she's terrible in bed, right? Because if she isn't, you'll just end up wanting to do it again knowing how good it was the first time
After you've explained why many cross-sex friendships did fail because one wanted more than the other. Also, how are you not sure that during those 20 years that your male friends didn't desire some more of you? But judging from you mentioning 20 years, there is a possibility that the westermarck-effect was involved. We can only speculate things.
I agree if I meet someone new as an adult there is likely to be sexual on at least one side doesn't discount friendship with guys i've known most of my life and they view me more as a sister sex doesn't even enter the equation
Yeah that dynamic is different compared to the usual cross sex friendships that happen later in life (when two people didn't grow up together). This take is mostly pointed to that considering that's the most common dynamic
Unless she has Her own money and she's fucking gorilla ass ugly. Then shit I don't see why she shouldn't be able to hang out with a guy like me. I'm not complicated.
This isn't a tutorial or coaching session to what you should do. This Take explains why your dynamic of "friendship" isn't truly a friendship. What you do with it is up to you.
In the majority of cases they are your "friend" in hope to be more than friends with you. Not because they oh so like being your friend. But feel free to remain in your wishful thinking. You're welcome ;)
So yeah you really think they can't be my friend just because they found me attractive. Then either your bar for women, or your bar for men, (or both), is very low. Because the girl being attractive shouldn't be the only determinate in whether a guy will be "friends" with her or not.
Not if they find them attractive, but rather if they start to develop sexual attraction/feelings for you. And more often than not, when someone (especially if it's a guy) finds the other attractive, it's usually sexual attraction. Which causes them to have sexual desires and takes away the platonic aspect from a relationship. But like I said, stick to your wishful thinking.
So yeah, you think if they find them sexually attractive that "takes away" the possibility to have a Platonic relationship. I still don't buy it. Why is it "wishful thinking" when it's what I think, but it's just fact and not "negative thinking" or "cynicism" when it's what you think?
What do you think men do if their sister or mother or daughter is sexually attractive? They just can't have a platonic, familial relationship anymore just because of how the woman looks physically? That's nonsense.
If sexual attraction is there, that doesn't make it platonic, does it? Your comparison about an 'attractive' (direct) family member is something I've covered aswel. Thanks for proving you didn't read the take. Otherwise you would have noticed me mentioning the Westermarck-effect.
Yeah I read it you’re not always attracted to your friends though and especially because you see them through all all of the mishaps. That can be unattractive
@Justneedtokno It's possible, I already made that clear. The thing is, it often ISN'T in a lot if not most cases. So many women know that their guy friends would sleep with them given the opportunity (some of them have confessed that under this Take). And that so many dudes are "friends" with a girl while they would want to be more than that. THAT is what my Take is about.
@Justneedtokno "You see them through their mishaps and that can be unattractive"
BINGO!
Proof positive men in a relationship with a woman cannot show emotion, weakness, or failure. WTF do you think a marriage entails? Here is a news flash... are you ready... men are HUMAN. In course of human lives there will be bad events, failures, tragedies, times when we all fall down... parents die, people get sick, lose jobs, make mistakes, and have other real life tragedies. The fact that men are being told by women "don't expect me to stick around when you have a hard time" is frankly shocking and does not bode well for the future of relationships.
Actually that pertains to both genders. Women get emotional and a guy doesn’t like that women want quality time and that’s two needy women want words of affirmation that’s conceded we get it all. @TruthBringer Again I say y’all act as if it can’t happen I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a friend with a guy. And not everybody wants to be with you
@Justneedtokno I already said it CAN happen, under certain conditions. You have NOT read the Take and it's getting more apparent. Either read it or begone. I'm not going to repeat myself again.
OMG I already said I read it I’m tired of going back-and-forth all acidic and happened that’s. I don’t care about the circumstances it doesn’t make sense anyway
I only have one point and that’s it. You’re trying to put all these parameters on just being friends with somebody and it’s not right. It doesn’t happen like that all the time God is gone just always have feelings for you know. I only points that I was trying to make was we can be friends that’s it stop putting parameters on it stop making it bigger than what it is it’s not do you have the friends with somebody or not if you want to like somebody that’s on your own. I had to get the courage to talk to the girl or not
@Justneedtokno How nice of you to beat around the bush without directly addressing a single point I made. Logical fallacies at their finest. Move on and stick to your delusion
@Justneedtokno You're literally repeating what I say and then say I make it out like men and women cannot be friends. Liek at all, while I was very clear that they CAN under certain conditions. There is nothing more to gain from this conversation. So it's over.
It doesn’t matter the condition it just means that you can be friends that’s it. I’m not repeating I’m just saying what I believe. If you don’t understand it is quite OK
@Justneedtokno Life is much more nuanced than that. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be, it's actually full of grey tints. So no, it's actually not a simple matter. You can't "just be friends" with anyone, regardless of sex. Let alone of the opposite sex if sexual attraction is prone to happen. It seems YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand and choose to stick to your tunnel vision mentality. So nice projection there. As I said before, we're done here. Have a good day, miss.
@KrakenAttackin She neither have read it and if she did, every point clearly went right over her head. Do me a favor and don't invite narrow-minded people, who can't address the arguments I've presented, on my Takes again please
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I can. I have female friends that I've never done anything sexual with. But then again, I am built different.
Have you ever felt attracted to them?
For the most part, yeah. But it's easy for me not to act on it. Because of my different build ofc.
So that means you can’t really be just friends with them them since you have feelings that you’re keeping inside which could always cloud your judgement when giving advice. Hence, not making you a very good friend I believe. Well it’s just my opinion anyway. Cheers! :)
@rlsleuth3 I agree with you
@rlsleuth3 - Nope. I never let it cloud my judgment. For instance, if I was attracted to a friend but they were attracted to someone else, I'd help them possibly get with whoever they're attracted to. And this has actually happened before.
Because if I really want them that badly, I'd have already told them that I wanted to be more than friends. But I just don't value dating & marriage as highly as other people do. So I'm completely okay with not doing that stuff. And I'm also completely okay with missing the opportunity to do anything sexual since there are so many people in the world.
I’ve come to the conclusion that I can only be friends with a woman if we have sex first to get that tension out the way
But that would only work if she's terrible in bed, right? Because if she isn't, you'll just end up wanting to do it again knowing how good it was the first time
@PrettyIsTurquoise well that’s the beauty of the friendship I’m not tied down by any real commitment I can still fuck other women
savage haha
This is truly savage and savagely true. Based on lived experience i agree
Great take, have you watched chronicles of Judah 144 on youtube? You two are very similar.
Thanks mate. No I don't know that YouTuber, but I'll make sure to check him out
@TruthBringer Check the his video series called men and women cannot be just friends, that's where your take reminds me of.
Simple because boys have a penis and girls have a vagina and they fit together so well.
I don't have these problems because I don't have friends 😅 and I'm not sexually attractive to most people so ha ha I win and lose at the same time 😝
Most Guys think Im a guy anyway
Thanks for the like
I would steal money and whenever I get locked up, I would just use my eyes to break out
Like this?:
Yeah but with more lasers
I agree not I have male friends that have been good friends over 20 years how do you explain that?
After you've explained why many cross-sex friendships did fail because one wanted more than the other. Also, how are you not sure that during those 20 years that your male friends didn't desire some more of you? But judging from you mentioning 20 years, there is a possibility that the westermarck-effect was involved. We can only speculate things.
I agree if I meet someone new as an adult there is likely to be sexual on at least one side doesn't discount friendship with guys i've known most of my life and they view me more as a sister sex doesn't even enter the equation
Yeah that dynamic is different compared to the usual cross sex friendships that happen later in life (when two people didn't grow up together). This take is mostly pointed to that considering that's the most common dynamic
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Unless she has Her own money and she's fucking gorilla ass ugly. Then shit I don't see why she shouldn't be able to hang out with a guy like me. I'm not complicated.
So I should just cut off my guy friend? "Sorry but you were attracted to me, so we can't be friends and hang out ever again." That seems kinda mean.
This isn't a tutorial or coaching session to what you should do. This Take explains why your dynamic of "friendship" isn't truly a friendship. What you do with it is up to you.
Ok so they're not actually my friend? Just because they were attracted to me? I don't buy that, but thanks for the take anyway
In the majority of cases they are your "friend" in hope to be more than friends with you. Not because they oh so like being your friend. But feel free to remain in your wishful thinking. You're welcome ;)
So yeah you really think they can't be my friend just because they found me attractive.
Then either your bar for women, or your bar for men, (or both), is very low. Because the girl being attractive shouldn't be the only determinate in whether a guy will be "friends" with her or not.
Not if they find them attractive, but rather if they start to develop sexual attraction/feelings for you. And more often than not, when someone (especially if it's a guy) finds the other attractive, it's usually sexual attraction. Which causes them to have sexual desires and takes away the platonic aspect from a relationship. But like I said, stick to your wishful thinking.
So yeah, you think if they find them sexually attractive that "takes away" the possibility to have a Platonic relationship. I still don't buy it. Why is it "wishful thinking" when it's what I think, but it's just fact and not "negative thinking" or "cynicism" when it's what you think?
What do you think men do if their sister or mother or daughter is sexually attractive? They just can't have a platonic, familial relationship anymore just because of how the woman looks physically? That's nonsense.
If sexual attraction is there, that doesn't make it platonic, does it?
Your comparison about an 'attractive' (direct) family member is something I've covered aswel. Thanks for proving you didn't read the take. Otherwise you would have noticed me mentioning the Westermarck-effect.
Dunno. I got so triggered I didn't read past the title.
@Justneedtokno will hopefully read this.
Yeah I read it you’re not always attracted to your friends though and especially because you see them through all all of the mishaps. That can be unattractive
@KrakenAttackin She didn't read it. And you will see why if you check out her own comment under this Take
I did read it and I saw the video and all. It was just the way you were acting as if men and women cannot be friends at all emphasis on at all
And that’s not fair if a guy secretly wants to be with someone or just has feelings with someone Does it mean that is her fault it’s his secret
@Justneedtokno It's possible, I already made that clear. The thing is, it often ISN'T in a lot if not most cases. So many women know that their guy friends would sleep with them given the opportunity (some of them have confessed that under this Take). And that so many dudes are "friends" with a girl while they would want to be more than that. THAT is what my Take is about.
All I’m saying and the point that I’m trying to make is it can happen. I get all the other things. In my case it’s just different.
@Justneedtokno You're literally repeating what I'm saying...
@Justneedtokno "You see them through their mishaps and that can be unattractive"
BINGO!
Proof positive men in a relationship with a woman cannot show emotion, weakness, or failure. WTF do you think a marriage entails? Here is a news flash... are you ready... men are HUMAN. In course of human lives there will be bad events, failures, tragedies, times when we all fall down... parents die, people get sick, lose jobs, make mistakes, and have other real life tragedies. The fact that men are being told by women "don't expect me to stick around when you have a hard time" is frankly shocking and does not bode well for the future of relationships.
Actually that pertains to both genders. Women get emotional and a guy doesn’t like that women want quality time and that’s two needy women want words of affirmation that’s conceded we get it all. @TruthBringer Again I say y’all act as if it can’t happen I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a friend with a guy. And not everybody wants to be with you
@Justneedtokno I already said it CAN happen, under certain conditions. You have NOT read the Take and it's getting more apparent. Either read it or begone. I'm not going to repeat myself again.
OMG I already said I read it I’m tired of going back-and-forth all acidic and happened that’s. I don’t care about the circumstances it doesn’t make sense anyway
I only have one point and that’s it. You’re trying to put all these parameters on just being friends with somebody and it’s not right. It doesn’t happen like that all the time God is gone just always have feelings for you know. I only points that I was trying to make was we can be friends that’s it stop putting parameters on it stop making it bigger than what it is it’s not do you have the friends with somebody or not if you want to like somebody that’s on your own. I had to get the courage to talk to the girl or not
@Justneedtokno How nice of you to beat around the bush without directly addressing a single point I made. Logical fallacies at their finest. Move on and stick to your delusion
I directly said you can be friends that’s the only point I may. What is your problem
You’re making A big deal out of nothing
@Justneedtokno You're literally repeating what I say and then say I make it out like men and women cannot be friends. Liek at all, while I was very clear that they CAN under certain conditions. There is nothing more to gain from this conversation. So it's over.
It doesn’t matter the condition it just means that you can be friends that’s it. I’m not repeating I’m just saying what I believe. If you don’t understand it is quite OK
Stop making conditions and rules so just a simple friendship
@Justneedtokno Life is much more nuanced than that. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be, it's actually full of grey tints. So no, it's actually not a simple matter. You can't "just be friends" with anyone, regardless of sex. Let alone of the opposite sex if sexual attraction is prone to happen. It seems YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand and choose to stick to your tunnel vision mentality. So nice projection there. As I said before, we're done here. Have a good day, miss.
@KrakenAttackin She neither have read it and if she did, every point clearly went right over her head. Do me a favor and don't invite narrow-minded people, who can't address the arguments I've presented, on my Takes again please
Women and men are natural enemies these days.
I agree with you.
No friendship , maybe just texting.
This makes sense.