Women nowadays lazy? And not real women at all?

[Beastieboys95]

I'm Mexican and traditionally I know how to cook clean sew knit you name it I know how to do it. It bothers me a lot that my girl friends are lazy as hell. They don't cook and they don't clean. I go to their houses and its a utter mess and it really bothers me. I have a boyfriend well fiance you can say. We don't live together but whenever he comes over or whenever I go to his place I take care of him. Cook and clean for him. And just be there for him in whatever he needs. Don't get me wrong I'm very independent. I can take care of myself just fine. But it just bothers me that women now a days don't really know how to cook or clean. How do they expect to be a good mothers or wives? Don't mean to offend anyone out there. But does this bother anyone else? Maybe its because of my ethnicity that I was raised to take care of my man and of children in whatever they need and put myself last? My question is does it bother anyone else? And does anybody else think that women now a days aren't actually women? Again don't mean to offend anyone just wondering if anyone thinks this way?

[foreveryoung2010]

Just because women don't want to be housewives and put themselves last in every situation does not make them lazy! Why can't men and women help out with both cleaning and cooking?

or both help out with outside chores like painting or fixing something. your phrase 'women aren't actually women' I don't exactly get. Women are women no matter what.Just because some don't do the stereotyped 'women jobs' doesn't make them any less of a woman. I don't want to spend my life cleaning up other peoples messes when I have a husband that is just as equally capable of helping out with cleaning. I don't want to spend my life getting the short end of the stick! Yes I know how to clean and cook and blah blah blah. Yes, I will be using those skills in the future, but I do not plan on spending my life being a housewife. I think that woman are realizing that they are worth more than cleaning and making sandwiches. We can in fact do just as much as men. Maybe some are taking that to the full extent and not cleaning or cooking at all, but that's a stereotype because you don't know all of the women in the world! It just bothers me reading this because I think 'Why can't men and woman share both of these roles?!' You make it sound like they are physically unable to clean or cook... Sorry for this long rant but uh yea that's how I see it.

[Beastieboys95]

Like I said it was the way I was raised So I just see it like this way.

[foreveryoung2010]

Right I am being raised in a similar fashion, and I don't like it! ha ha :P

[vmw2008]

Honestly, I think it is because of how those roles are looked upon in our society. The man's role was seen as the "hard" role, the role with prestige. While the woman's role was seen as easy work and degrading to a man to be doing it. Now in a world where women have the choice, they want to be doing the role that gets the praise. The role that is looked highly upon (which is working).

I'm all for doing both honestly. I plan on landing a full time career while being able to cook and clean as well as my mother does, which is pretty damn good. But submitting to being just a housewife would make me feel degraded. Marrying a man who believes that's where I belong is out of the question.

That my dear is the reason why women have become "lazy" in your opinion. If the housewife role was looked upon with as much prestige as the man's working role, then plenty of women would still be doing. But since it's not (and those jokes men crack about "get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich" only further propel that idea) women no longer want to feel like the lesser of the partnership.

[Beastieboys95]

You ma'am have been awarded with best answer!

[normster]

You`re right, that`s why I cook, do the laundry, scrub the floor on my knees, shine her shoes while she watch TV.

[Asailum]

"hey want to be doing the role that gets the praise. The role that is looked highly upon (which is working). " this is completely wrong and that's why we have a over 50% divorce rate. This so called "equality" does nothing but degrade mens pride because women are trying to act like they have testosterone and the poor guy puts up with so much more bullsh*t because of it. Old fashioned roles might be criticized, but there's a good reason they were around for thousands upon thousands of years

[KingDC]

OK we understand the change in gender roles. But whats going on with a high percentage of with today's women 20 to 30 is ridiculous. OK things have changed and women now work and don't have time to to do 100% of housework.

That doesn't mean women have the right to abandon household work all together. What's now becoming a trend is men now performing 100% of a man's traditional role and 70 to 80% of a woman's traditional household responsibility. Women do not feel like they hardly ever should cook or clean and many men are now having to close that void. I'm OK with shared responsibility but im not going to take care of a grown woman like a child.

Today's women feel like they are only responsible for looking pretty and having babies. "You don't have to push a child out of your body" is not alibi for every thing.

I also don't understand why some of us men are doing the vast majority of cooking and cleaning, and have to then deal with an attitude when we ask for help.

[genevieve]

I guess I kinda was raised similar to you and I think someday, many years from now I wanna stay at home and take care of my kids for a while. (on a side note, I love cooking, I thought about becoming a chef but decided against it) However, I wanna finish college and work for a few years first.

You're 17 years old and I guess your friends are bout the same age, they don't need worry about how to be good mothers and wifes, they still have their own mothers living with them. I think it would bother me if a friend of mine had three kids, was a stay home mom and 'lazy' how you described it, but not if they're teenagers

'anybody else think that women now a days aren't actually women' of course women are still women, but I guess I know what you mean and I'd even agree to an extent, but serously get some other goal than having a family first. Once you're a mother, your whole will be turned upside down, you can't do the things you can now. It's true most mother put their kids first and that's a good thing but beware of that. You only live once

[The-Romanian]

I'll start off with, I don't care if I offend anyone with what I'm going to lay out.

I was raised that a woman is one who cooks, cleans, and takes care of the children, their partner, etc.

And a man is one who works, does the outside work of the house, or any other tasks that may be needed for him to do.

In America, this is slowly fading away with much of the population. And the only people that still adhere to something like this are the ones who migrated here, or had parents with an ethnic background that upheld this themselves.

A male has his roles, as a woman has hers. Those who want to be lazy bitches, and not do anything and get whatever they want. I say the hell with those types, and they can remain alone. Or if the roles become switched, and the woman is to become the provider. Well, you're sh*t out of luck. You got with a lazy male there.

So, yes, OP, I agree. They're not what makes a "real" woman to most.

[Beastieboys95]

Thank you! Of course my father migrated to America and my mother was born here moved to Mexico for two years then came back so yes she is mexican american!

[The-Romanian]

I was speaking of any particular ethnic background. I was speaking in general, of most ethnic background. And the nutt sack that down voted me. Way to go on proving a point. :))))))

[The-Romanian]

I wasn't speaking of any particular*

[Giogiogio2011]

Its because In America everything is handed to you growing up.

If your family has some actual culture like you mentioned being Mexican you tend to actually know how to do the basic things most woman take for value.

Don't eat up that BS about woman wanting a new "Roll". its utter nonsense. Because Most woman in this country don't want to fill that "Roll" yet the man is still expected to fulfill their roll. yet another double standard. Its funny because since this whole movement has started Woman are increasingly unhappy overall compared to men. mainly because now they are being told that they have to be something growing up and Now they have all the stresses of being a man they realize its not as great as they thought.

[Beastieboys95]

Great answer thank you!

[Cool-Relax]

You're saying that women aren't actually women, and you don't think that's offensive? That's horribly offensive!

My goal in life isn't to be a wife and mother. If that happens, great, but I don't expect to be the only one taking care of the family. I'm sorry, I'm not very maternal, and I suck at cooking. It's not because I haven't tried or I don't want to cook, I'm just not good at it. I can take care of myself just fine too, but if I'm supposed to do everything for everyone, we're all screwed. Having different strengths and goals than you does *not* make me less of a woman.

[Beastieboys95]

LIKE I said I guess its just because of my ethnicity my grandmother always told me your kids first your husband second and yourself last. My grandmother is old fashioned. cooking for everyone then waiting until everyone finishes and then eating the cold leftovers. Its just the way it is. I'm sorry if I offended you it wasn't my intention

[nobleziba]

I'd not call it lazy. I do think that to some extent it is a cultural thing. In many cultures the women do take on a more domestic role. The same can be said of most cultures a few decades ago. Now women work, are getting with equality with men and moving out of the homes, and because of this, their skill sets and duties are shifting from caring for the man who typically provides for them to a mentality of being the provider. This is not to say either way is the best way. What is NOT OK, however, is mess. There is no excuse for that.

[sara126]

I was raised by moderately wealthy white parents but I still work a lot. I watch all the kids a lot, I cook, clean, and sew. I also hunt and gut animals with my father. I currently work in a butcher shop, and I go to college full time. I don't know about your friends, but a lot of people are really hard working.

[Beastieboys95]

Thank you for your answer!

[sara126]

I am not angry or anything, but I think gender roles are lies, as long as you work hard it doesn't matter what work you are doing.

[secondbestkiller]

I think EVERYONE should have at least a basic knowledge of how to cook, clean, etc. If only so they don't have to depend on other people to do it for them. I mean, so many people I know rely on their parents to do it for them, but they seriously can't do it themselves? They're basic skills everyone should have.

But what is there stopping men from cooking and cleaning, other than some bullsh*t gender roles? I want a real answer to that, btw: Why can't men cook and clean for themselves?

Not gonna lie, I'm really lazy. In general. I know how to cook and clean, sure, but I only do it out of necessity. But I don't expect other people to do it for me either. It works for me. And I'm pretty sure I'm still a "real" woman. (whatever that means.)

If someone wants to be a "homemaker", sure, good for them. But not if they're only doing it cause that's their warped idea of what a real woman should be doing. That is some Stepford Wives sh*t right there.

[PeterCobra]

i don't know or care about how society views roles or whatever. all I know is I treat girls damn good and I want to be treated good in return. which is exactly why I am looking for a latina just like you as we speak. I have met a couple of them and I am getting to know them latley. I have been screwed over and cheated on by my LAST white princess. that makes 11 in a row and 2 black girls that have been exactly what you complained about and most of them cheated on top of it all. and they all came from church/school/etc. not the bars and clubs. they were still lazy golddigger skanks. I'm going gold and never looking back. and I am a spanish major so is it a plus if I speak the language? do you all find that more attractive or does it matter?

[Asailum]

yes women are indeed trying to have their cake and eat it too. They want "equality" and then when they get it they hate it. Women have and never will "know" what they want, that's why they enjoy a dominant a**hole guy even though they say the opposite(another thing they often do).

To address your points more directly, in general girls have become very self centered and expect tons of things from guys, but when it comes to them deserving any of that... there's very few that do.

Thats why all girls should try to learn from european women who actually know how to take care of a guy and make him feel good. If you want to yell about your so called "independence" then have fun with your vibrator.

[martyfellow]

Mainstram women in the US are not only lazy, but dishonest and back=stabbing as well, on the whole. We depend on women in minority and immigrant communities to point the way forward now.

Good for u!

[Beastieboys95]

Thank you!

[Celav]

Let’s talk in around 10 years and tell me if you still enjoy cleaning and washing for your man haha. Grow up
Before posting stupidity we are raised differently and in spite of that we are free to choose not to be housewives! Thanks to that there are still scientific and really smart woman who can rule the word too. I hate feminism but girls like you make me crazy cause you were just fishing for men compliments on how they’d wish to have a maid as a Wife

[wacyw]

No,it does not.In my opinion ,I think both men and women are responsible for cooking and cleaning,not just girl,nor the man .That is a collective work.

[wacyw]

In my point of view ,I advice that you can try to chat something that men are interested in with him .Such as sports,money,news,even sex.

[Anonymous]

I think so. Personally I'd kill to have a girl like you. I'd wreck that sexy little body too lol ;)

[Beastieboys95]

Thanks haha