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Is Forced Fatherhood Fair? (Page 2)
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Men should be able to sign away their rights but they can never get them back.
i agree
Only if a man is raped and a baby results is he a forced father. If the sex was permissive, he was not forced to be a father.
but the mother has abortion, adoption and save haven laws so why does the father have to be forced into what the mother wants but the man is made to follow what the mother wants which is an unfair system that discriminates against the male gender as you are treating them diffrent under the law which by the laws own admisison is illegal as you are giving speical rights to one group of people based on there gender why at at the same time extorting money out of an unwilling party to pay for the choice of another by threat of jail time or sanctions on their freedom which under the law is slavery
She shouldn't have those rights. If she had permissive sex, she shouldn't abort a baby. She shouldn't abort even if she is raped either.
Laws give it to women because women ate seen as needy and courts please women thinking women deserve it.
i agree with making the man pay if the women also did not have an out but in our times women do which make it unfair and unequal for men
Yeah but there is sexism against women too. It is just more noticeable against men.
i agree i just want a fair and equal system what do you think of my system
1-if the mother wants the baby but the father does not then he does not pay anything plus gets no rights
2- if they both do not want the baby they both pay half the abortion cost
3- if the mother dose not want the baby but father does they both pay half the abortion cost plus the mother paying for any therapy for him if he needs it
4-if both want the baby then they both get rights to the pregnancy and birth but if the mother does not let him be at any of it then she loses any surpport payments but if the mother lets him be at it all but he does not go to them he loses his rights to the child giving both the mother and father incentives as it gives the mother an incentive to invole the father in the pregnancy and birth plus gives the father incentive to surpport the mother durring the pregnancy
5-if any abuse is proved by any parent with proof of it then the abuse parent loses all rights upon the birth of the child
6-if any parent is proved to break ant court order then they will have a minimum of a fine paid to the other parent to compensate for any lost time with the child (this goes both ways so the father does not turn up the mother can get him fined)
I don't agree with abortion but if a man had 100% of the rights the woman got, it would be fair.
i was trying to make it fair to both the mother and father and i know my system has flaws here and there i know but it is more fair than the one we have now right plus we can work out bugs later can we not
The best plan is to ban abortion so it makes it most fair.
but what do you do if the abrtion is medical needed
It’s very rare for abortion to be a medical necessity.
@TheSpartan but still could happen
Then create a legal exception for those scenarios.
@TheSpartan then we agree
It’s a terrible necessity that sometimes one has to die to save one life instead of doom both to death.
No, and the fact she would lure him into something he's clearly not ready for is pretty fucked up.
It is unfair and the court system is very sexist against men in many instances.
No it's not fair but neither is forced motherhood but if you play you pay if you can't handle being a father then use protection
Nope lol wrap it in latex or she gets your paychecks
which is unfair if they the choice of abortion, adoption and save haven laws
I would prefer it that way, careers are freaking dumb anyway. I feel bad for all the people who buy into climbing the corporate ladder. Its a pyramid scheme.
I don't think it's fair, but I doubt it's going to change any time soon.
don't have sex if you don't want kids female or male simple asf
then no abortons then ok
agree
dont want kids? dont have sex. or else live with the consequences for both lads and lasses!!!
@1828avaava1828 i am fine with making men pay as alone as women pay too like sure make them pay support but you have to take away abortions for women so it is fair
sweetie you can't make women get abortions it is our bodies and we can abort or keep the child if the guy is so scared of a woman getting prego he shouldn't have sex or he should take precautions , if she happens to get prego it is her body and her choice
i am generally against abortions but women can do whatever they want with THEIR bodies
then men should be able to do what they want with their money look i am not saying give men contol over abotion just do not force them to pay for baby they did not want when you had all the say not him as why should he pay for your choice
so what you are saying is that he consent to parenthood when he had sex erm why is not not true for women as she consent to sex do did she not so does that not oblige her to carry a pregnancy to term but it oblige a man to work hours on end to pay child support for a child he never wanted but was forced into having agasint his will by a women or go to jail seems pretty unfair dont you think on one hand the women gets all the say but on the other if she wants to keep it she can force the man into paying for her choice
Yes obv he did everyone who has sex knows damn well there is a chance pregnancy will occur! No one wants their money but if some woman wants the child he technically can't force her to abort and he automatically has obligations to the child and should be responsible cause he was when he had sex and knew of the possibility of pregnancy
you still do not get it the women consents to sex to just like the man so she also consents to the possibility of pregnancy but by giving her the choice of abortion you give her the choice in if she wants to have the consequences or not of that pregnancy but if she choose to carry the baby to term she can push them consequences onto the man too who had no say no voice but to pay or go to jail for her choice so they both consented to sex but only she consent to parenthood what part of that do you not understand look it gose like this
1-both man and women consent to sex
2-women gets pregnant
3-women choose to carry on with pregnancy
4-man gets no say in if baby is born but is forced to pay for something he never consented to
5-women gets her way in both case she wants to not be a parent she gets abortion but if she dose want to be a parent she can force the man to pay her for her choice
so how can you say a man consent to the possibility of pregnancy just like the man but unlike the man it dose not force her to carry the baby
so i ask why is consent to sex consent to parenthood for men only
The choice is given to the woman because it is her body what’s so hard to get about this point?
then choice to pay or not should be given to the man because it is his money what’s so hard to get about this point? plus if it is her body she should pay for her choice that she made as it was her body that made the body not the man's all he did was make a zygote but she made it into a baby so she should pay for what comes out of her body not an unwilling man who never consented to be a parent in the first place how can you not understant that
it takes two to tango. if you don’t want a kid then don’t have unprotected sex. other wise, pay the consequences.
but women dont have to pay then consequences as not only do they get abortion but adoption and save haven laws too
abortions are not always allowed and do you even know how traumatic the experience of an abortion is? women definitely do pay the consequences and my mom is a perfect example of that. there are literal people working together trying to make abortions illegal, women were killed for having abortions.
i am female u know and i am playing devil's advocate to provoke debate
plus i have nothing against abortions but what i am against is forceing parentshood on men when women get a choice but men do not
they knew the consequences of not using protection so they have to deal with their actions. both genders.
but you faill to say that women get abortion, adoption and save haven laws but men just have to go along with what the women wants so i will say yes they both consented to sex but only she consented to parenthood so yes it is forced fatherhood as you are making him be a parent against his will as you have choices he does not
Fair? No. But, there's no way around it. Two people made the mistake. And the baby shouldn't have to pay for it.
You're the only woman on earth I respect
~Mr Bails Extraordinaire
anyone who agrees with abortion is retarded and will answer to GOD
I don't know why men pay child support in the first place
run to the next state cling to life
the government is satanic
take your child and run
and fuck the mother
The guy believing fairy tales calls us retarded. Maybe you should grow up
@WhoDatGuy
good luck in your imaginary world
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Honestly it depends on the circumstances. If he took the chances then lifes not fair but if the circumstances are there then yes he should be takem into consideration
In some countries a father can "abort" they give up their parental responsibility in a legal matter.
It's not fair. Guys shouldn't have to pay child support for an unwanted child.
What women who get pregnant and get an abortion although the man wants to KEEP the child.
@Browneye57 what ya thinkin?
I like the update part. Don't be fucking around if you aren't responsible enough to deal with the consequences. Kids these days think sex is just an activity, a pastime. While surely it is, if you're not paying attention there are some serious consequences. And murdering your child isn't the best solution if you screw it up. If you can't deal with having a child then give up for adoption - there are plenty of responsible adults more than willing to raise a child in a loving home.
Birth control is so easy today, there's really no excuse. But we see all kinds of questions about techniques and 'can I still get prego'. How can people be so clueless?
@Browneye57 people's potential for being clueless is unlimited lol. be responsible for your actions kiddies
so should women oh wait we give them freedom by forceing parenthood on to men
What is this 'forced' BS about? Nobody is forced into anything. If you get pregnant both parties are responsible. It's called being an adult. What does anybody's career have to do with it?
Why doesn't anyone understand being responsible for your actions anymore?
@Browneye57 my god it is like talking to a wall i will make is very simple for your little brain to understand they both consent to sex but only one consent to parenthood which was the women when SHE CHOICE to carry on the pregnancy therefor forceing parenthood onto the man aginst his will as he got no say and no choice in the matter what part of that do you not understand or are you ok with forceing parenthood onto men but giving women 3 options to get out of parenthood post sex at the expense of the mans freedoms and right to choice if he wants to be a parent
What do YOU want?
If a guy doesn't want to be responsible for being a dad don't be sticking your dick in BSC.
@Browneye57 and funny you should say people should be an adult then why give women the freedom to get out of their adult responsibilities but then force them same responsibilities on a man against his will as you sound highly hypocritical
@Browneye57 lol If a women doesn't want to be responsible for being a mom dont be having dicks stuck inside you lol goes both ways but she can get out of being a mom but the man is force into being a dad what part of that do you not understand
I understand you're a condescending cunt. That's about all.
@Browneye57 lmfao some people's kids
@Browneye57 then u are a hypocritical two faced brain dead person who cannot understand when something is unfair i will break it down for you
1. two people consent to sex
2. unplanned pregncnay happends
3. women chooses to keep baby
4. man is then forced into women choice against is will
5. man has to pay for a child he did not consent to as he had no choice post sex like the women
6. if after birth women decides she does not want to be a mother anymore she can give the child up for adoption or use save havens to life child no qustions asked
7. man cannot give up responsibilities towards child unless women consents but women can give up her responsibilities towards child no matter what man says
so what part do u now understand about it being unfair to men or do u like this unfair and unjust anti male hate of s system that is made to strip men of the freedom to choice and force them into financial slavery for a choice of another which he got no say in
I dunno toots... my first and only divorce cost me right at a half-mil. We had some money, a couple of fancy houses, 5 cars, a yacht, and a couple of kids. I traded the big house for a normal one and put her and the kids in it, and a couple of grand a month in support. By the time they hit 18 I had shelled out about five hundred grand.
But you know, my kids love me, and they're all great, and the only thing I would have changed was marring that bitch in the first place. But she's gotten her just deserts, and 3 or 4 more ex-husbands so I don't feel so bad about it.
As far as the unjust thing... sure, but it's not YOUR cause. Or well, maybe it is, but it shouldn't be cuz you got enough of your own problems. But thanks for the explanation. I have one son, the youngest, and he's already married and happy, so unless shit really goes to hell there he's gonna be fine. I'll be dead soon so I don't have enough care to give a shit. Thanks again. :)
@Browneye57 i sure hope he got a choice in having that child as if they break up he will have no rights at all to that child as like i said it is unfair to men which you still do not understand
Yeah I know... my ex kept the kids away, wouldn't let them visit for the summer like she agreed to in the custody portion of our decree, kept the support moneys for herself and to invest in real estate cuz she was gonna be RICH, and then told the kids I was a deadbeat dad and my new wife was a whore. When new wife was prego she said we had no right to have another child. Dear god.
She lost all her money in the 08 crash, divorced four times, and from time to time the two we had together won't talk to her. She made her bed, a disgusting self-centered narcissistic cunt of a woman.
I don't know why you think you need to beat me over the head about it - I'm way too old to care. I'm just glad none of the three are camped out on my doorstep with their hand out. ;)
@Browneye57 all i am saying is men should get a choice post sex like the women to make it fair if the women can so no to parenthood post sex the man should have the same choice
Agreed.
But here's my take on it...
1. TWO made a baby - it should be born, not aborted. I'm all for pro-choice unless it's in lieu of birth control, then I call it murdering unborn children. So TWO get to decide what will be done with unborn child. She can abort it, or birth it, and either adopt it out or raise it herself. If she raises it herself he owes the child financial support because he is the father. But yeah, she has the final say, she is the one that is prego.
2. The FI keeps telling women they have free will to have sex with anyone they choose, any time they choose, any place they choose. So while she has free choice it is not without consequence. Yes, there are consequences for the choices we make.
3. A guy can choose to have sex with her or not. If he chooses to and she becomes pregnant, then he will have to abide with what her choice is for the child. If he cannot accept that then he should not be having sex with her.
Frankly, I lost interest in all this when my second wife went through cancer therapy. She was 37, diagnosed with lymphoma. That was fifteen years ago. Her oncologist told her a pregnancy was a death sentence for HER, so ONE of us has to be snipped. Guess who volunteered. Best thing EVA. :)
And she still lives today. All her hair grew back. My sister, father, and brother-in-law all died of cancer. My youngest, my son, and I, are the only men left in the whole family.
I'm not sure if any of this has any relevance, but perhaps in can shed light on my position, or lack of empathy thereof.
@Browneye57 but yet again with number one you forece the father into paying for a child he did not want and had no say in as you say if she choose to have and raise it he ows surpport so where is his choice in all this
His choice was made when it stuck his dick in her. :)
This gets back to accepting responsibility for your choices, actions. That seems to be something not at all popular these days.
@Browneye57 Her choice was made when she let a dick get stuck in her so why dose the women get 3 ways out but the man dose not answer that as she has abortion, adoption and safe haven law all of them 3 options she can pick from to get out of her responsibility for her choices and actions yet you force that choice onto the man saying he should take responsibility for his choices and actions aswell as force the father to pay for the choice of the mother so yet again you place all the responsibility on the man but as the same time giving woment the freedom to get out of that responsibility by making the man pay for her choice and to me it seems to be something not at all popular these days for women to be accountable for her choice as they know they can push their choice onto the man
The choice was made when he stuck his dick in. End of story. That's life. If he doesn't want the potential results, then maybe he should make his love life a little more bland and go make love with his hand :)
right Browneye57 ? lol
then it should be the same for a women when a dick was stuck inside her she made her choice end of story so not abortion or giving the baby up for adoption oh yeah plus no safe haven laws also are you willing to give up all them options and choics post sex to make it fair no oh i knew you would not as you are ok with forceing your choice onto an unwilling man
Give it up honey. You're like a pitbull. LOL
@Browneye57 why dont you see that forcing men to support children against their will is just wrong when you give women 3 options to opt out but give men none
It takes two to make a baby
but only she consent to be a parent not him as she gets 3 choices after the fact but he gets none
If you decide to have sex. Then you have to be up for the risk of having a baby. Simple as that. Don’t have sex if you don’t want to risk having kids.
then no abortion for women then as she consent to carry a preganancy the moment she consent to sex then
There aren't any accidents, only stupidity
He should keep it in his pants.
wait, What?
Forced Father hood?
Nope
but it is unfair as the women gets 3 choices after the fact but he gets none and yes they both consented to sex but only she consent to be a parent
THANK YOU!
lol np
Why are there not more honest women like you?
i do not know
Well just know that you are appreciated.
aww thank u
what a hot daddy
nope