If parents know how annoying it is with a crying baby on a plane, why do they still bring it?

[chocolatetwopointo]

unless its an emergency ofc

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Because they love their kid and want to travel with them so they can all have a good experience at their destination

[chocolatetwopointo]

they won't remember it tho, and ur js embarrassing urself and annoying others on the plane

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

It depends on the kid and the parents tbh. Like my niece is pretty well-behaved on planes because her parents work to keep her distracted and happy. When the baby is that small, the memories are for the parents more than the child

[chocolatetwopointo]

no its been proven kids dont remember anything before they’re like 5. ok good for them.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Yeah, but the parents still want to take their kid with them. You’re centering this on the child and I’m centering this on the parents

[chocolatetwopointo]

then dont go omfg. i think they’ll be fine from travelling until they’re kid is ready for it.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

But the parents want to go, and they want to take their kid with them. There’s no airline that has an age minimum for passengers, and often traveling with a small child makes it easier to get on and off the plane as, depending on the airline, you get to board ahead of others.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so u want to make urself and other uncomfortable with a crying baby on a 9h flight? thats js rude and selfish. okay? that doesn't help any kind of way tho?

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

It’s a matter of priority, and clearly you would prioritize traveling without a child, which is fair considering you don’t have any. You don’t know if these parents can afford child care, or if their extended family is unable to look after the kid, or if they even have extended family. I can understand your frustration, we’ve all dealt with crying children who don’t belong to us in public, but it’s also equally as easy for us to put in some headphones and ignore it as the child isn’t our responsibility.

[chocolatetwopointo]

even if i had a child, i wouldn't travel publicly. esp not on a plane. then it must be an emergency where they’re going. yeah no, headphones will not help at all, trust me I've tried.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I’m sure a lot of this is just intended as a complaint, but you can’t control the decisions of other people regardless of how much you disagree with them. The most you can do is control your own actions. If you want to use that control to shame these hypothetical parents for their choices when I’m sure they already feel terrible for being an inconvenience to those around them, you can do that if you really want to. It won’t change the fact that the plane is in the air and a crying baby isn’t enough to make them land and force the family off.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah no shit, im js telling u its disrespectful. yes if they feel like its an inconvenience then dont bring them with you. unless, as I've said, i think a million times now, unless its an emergency. yeah but for the next time, they can think ab how they’re not the only ones in the world.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I think you might be projecting a little without realizing it

[chocolatetwopointo]

how exactly?

[Anonymous]

Are you suggesting they should just leave the baby home alone while they travel to be at their grandmother's funeral or their sister's wedding.

Jesus Christ, you are just as selfish as you are stupid.

[chocolatetwopointo]

”unless of an emergency ofc” idiot

[Still-alive]

This really isn’t that difficult to figure out lol.

[chocolatetwopointo]

r u incapable of reading?

[Still-alive]

Think about a little bit harder and you may understand why parents have to bring their babies on planes.

[chocolatetwopointo]

”unless its an emergency ofc” pls learn how to read before attacking me.

[Still-alive]

Even if not an emergency. You aren’t a parent so you won’t get it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

why can't u js save the embarrassment for you and uncomfortableness of others, and keep ur kid at home.

[Apple1996]

For breastfeeding mothers it's impossible to keep their baby at home while traveling

[Still-alive]

They aren’t doing it yo annoy you specifically … they love their babies and sometimes travel with them.

Maybe try to not make it about you? Or don’t use a plane to travel unless you have to.. for emergency reasons

[chocolatetwopointo]

then dont travel with a baby or use formula.

[chocolatetwopointo]

or maybe js save urself from the embarrassment and others the uncomfortable ness by staying at home until they’re old enough

[Still-alive]

Nope. Tough shit for you. People are going to continue traveling with their babies. Deal with it. Its not about you and stop making it about you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so u js want to seem like a rude and selfish person? ur literally like everyone that has kids. so selfish. i wouldn't even open a chips bag on a plane if i knew it would make sound.

[Still-alive]

Lol projection. The selfish person here is you demanding everyone do what you want them to do. Not how the world works. Get over it

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay, now tell me one person who wants to sit next to a crying baby on a 9h flight, ill wait. everyone agrees with me they’re js too scared to say it. or js respect others?

[Still-alive]

Sure they don’t want to but most understand that sometimes babies will be brought on a plane anyways. Its life. Get that through your head.

[chocolatetwopointo]

selfish and rude, like every parent, not surprised tbh.

[Still-alive]

Lol more projection. Not everyone will bow to your every whim. People are going to bring there babies. Learn to accept it or maybe you shouldn’t go on planes yourself.

Ps im not a parent and yet I understand babies are just a part of life. I don’t expect people to do what I want like some entitled person… yup thats what you are. Entitled.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how is it projecting?💀 u do u, but people will see u as rude and disrespectful. says the one who wants to ruin the experience for people js bc of what u want💀 like bffr.

[Still-alive]

I think you’re in for a rude awakening in life if you think I am the rude one here. You’re only 16 so you may still have time to figure out the world doesn’t revolve around you yet. Looks like i was wrong initially it is hard to figure out for you because you’re just incapable of grasping that point.

Anyways im done here. Said all i want to say on this matter.

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg. so u want to sit next to a crying baby on a 9h flight?💀 ok u do u, ill be in first class without any disrespectful people thanks

[Still-alive]

I don’t ‘want to’ not sure where you are getting that. I just realize sometimes thats the way the cookie crumbles. Thats reality. The more you learn to accept that the better. You don’t seem ti be anywhere near that however so it might take you awhile. I’d avoid going on a plane if i were you in the meantime.

Tbh I’d probably be way more annoyed at entitled people like you on a plane than a baby crying lol.

[chocolatetwopointo]

nope, ill js go in first class. but if u wanna seem nice and be uncomfortable the whole flight, u do u. yeah no i really doubt that, nobody would say it to their face.

[Still-alive]

I just sleep the whole time so im perfectly comfortable.

Glad you got the money for those 1st class tickets though. Another reality check for you is that not everyone has the money like you do apparently so maybe taking the baby with them was their only frugal option.

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao, u think u can sleep with a crying baby next to u? lmao ok good luck lol. yup, not my problem, i work for my money, they can too.

[Still-alive]

I not only can. I have. Not that hard lol

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao yeah right💀

[Still-alive]

Sorry you lack the willpower to sleep through that.

Anyways I realize im also talking to someone who looks down on poor people too. Another red flag about you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

trust me, you haven't slept through that lmao. if u want to be rich u gotta work for it. thats life yk, can't get everything u want without working for it.

[Still-alive]

Ah acting like you know me. Another red flag.

Im getting catfish vibes from you the more you speak.

[chocolatetwopointo]

well good thing this isn't a dating show, so I don't know why ur stating ”red flags” for. ah okay so a 16 yr old girl who doesn't like kids can't exist?

[Still-alive]

Red flags for a person people in general should stay away from.

Nah its not just ‘a 16 year old who doesn’t like kids’ its your whole package. Entitled, look down on poor people, act like you work harder then everyone else, there's some iffy posts you made in the past too that makes me think you’re probably some dude on the other side of the screen who’s trolling for kicks.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym act like i work harder than others? if they work as hard as me, they’ll be in the exact same spot as i am rn. what posts? why tf would i be a guy? y'all r so retarded its fkn crazy.

[Still-alive]

Lol what do you do for work? Lets see it

[chocolatetwopointo]

i dont lmao, im 16 retard. im looking for a job rn but i recently became 16 so ill prolly have to wait until summer, but i work really hard in school so i can get into law school one day, there's no other kids in my class that do that they really dont care ab their future

[Still-alive]

Lol so you have no grounds to tell poor people to ‘work harder’

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay so tell me why they couldnt work hard in school and get a good job? ill wait.

[Still-alive]

Maybe they do and its their wages that are stagnant. Maybe their bosses are super greedy and dont pay more. Maybe they tried going to school but life circumstances made them unable to complete it. Maybe the graduated applied to every job they could but the only one they got paid them poor wages.

There could be any numbers of things that could be a reason why they aren’t richer than they are. To just assume ‘they aren’t working hard enough’ is just foolish to me. It also reveals a bias on your part.

[chocolatetwopointo]

there's loads of people and communities people go to when they’re paid unfairly or are uncomfortable at work. go there. what circumstances? once again, u can complain ab that, u gotta do smth ab it. no its not, doesn't matter who they are, if they work hard, they’re gna be at the same stage as me.

[Still-alive]

The same stage as you? Being handed your wealth? Since you admit you don’t even work?

[chocolatetwopointo]

LMAO ok so what makes u think i was handed wealth? what r u on ab now?

[Still-alive]

Because you don’t work. C’mon figure it out. Lol

[chocolatetwopointo]

and? what makes u think im wealthy?

[Still-alive]

Oh so you’re poor then? And looking down on other poor people? You’re better then other poor people huh?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what? do u not understand there's an in between of wealthy and poor? r u like disabled or smth?

[Still-alive]

Ok so you’re middle class and looking down on poor people. So my point still remains you haven’t worked so you haven’t earned it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes exactly, my parents worked fairly hard, thats why we’re middle class rn. and im working in school so i can get a good future, so i won't end up middle class, is that too much for u to comprehend or? haven't earned what?

[Still-alive]

Ok when you finally get a job you’ll see other people working very herd and you’ll also see those sane people unable to get ahead and continue to live paycheck to paycheck. Get more experience and then you’ll see that life isn’t as simple as ‘you’re poor because you aren’t working hard enough.’ Yeah try telling that to the people there working twice as hard as others.

You’ll also see people get ahead who don’t deserve it at all.

Nuance is the key. Learn that and reach a better more mature mindset.

[chocolatetwopointo]

now tell me again, why couldnt they js study and get a good career? ur 100% one of those people that dropped out and now regret it lmao. why should i feel bad for lazy people who dont do anything ab their problems?

[Still-alive]

“ now tell me again, why couldnt they js study and get a good career?” Why assume that they aren’t? Maybe they are trying their best? Maybe life has gotten in the way. It happens. Life just happens! Some people get ahead not working hard, others are stick despite working hard. It does and will continue to happen. That you don’t realize that shows your lack of intelligence, wisdom and empathy. You make lots of assumptions about people who aren’t doing so well monetarily and you just reek of ignorance.

[chocolatetwopointo]

”trying they’re best” if they’re best isn't good, then they’re not trying. what kind of life is getting in the way, give me an example. how does that make me less intelligent? ill wait.

[Still-alive]

Lol… 😂
Just…
Im done.

You’re just incapable of understanding the real world.

[chocolatetwopointo]

no tell me, whats a problem that would get in the way, ill wait.

[chocolatetwopointo]

projecting fr

[Still-alive]

Illness? A loved one dying or getting sick and they’re the only one who can care for them. Focusing more on your kids than your own life. Maybe they got laid off from a good job and are in between working their way to get back on their feet. there's any number of different scenarios that can happen to a person. It shows your ignorance that you don’t understand this.

[chocolatetwopointo]

sure thats totally ok, but sometimes school can be nice and if u let them know u might get days off, and personally i would still work hard, js bc smth happened that ill get over in a month doesn't mean it has to fuck up my future. just keep working if u really want it, if u dont, u clearly dont want it enough.

[Still-alive]

Yup. You still don’t get it. Im out.

[purplepoppy]

Stick the little shits in cargo with the cats and dogs.

[Apple1996]

Because babies still have to travel lol

[chocolatetwopointo]

why?

[Apple1996]

Like I've taken my kids on planes to go on vacation, visit family/their dad, when we moved

[chocolatetwopointo]

why on vacation? its js inconvenient for others and u, why not js wait until they grow up?

[Apple1996]

My kids deserve vacations while they are small. It's not a inconvenience at all. If I didn't have kids I'd never go on vacation tbh

[chocolatetwopointo]

well i said babies, how old were ur kids when they started travelling? is it not embarrassing having a loud baby on a quiet flight?

[Apple1996]

Under a year with all of them lol

[Apple1996]

It's not that bad. The babies just get uncomfortable because their ears pop

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah and then they cry. were it usually on short or long flights?

[Apple1996]

Just a couple hours. The layovers sucked worse with kids just having to hang around the airports

[chocolatetwopointo]

didn't people ever complain? or were u embarrassed anytime?

[Apple1996]

No complaints. Only one flight my oldest son cried for 2hrs cuz he refused to nap on the plane lol all the other times they've been calm

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay, good for u. but wouldn't it js be nicer and more respectful to stay at home until they’re old enough to handle it.

[Apple1996]

It gets worse when they're older lol babies are the easier ones to take out/travel with

[chocolatetwopointo]

how?

[Apple1996]

They are more needy. They gotta use the bathroom, need a acutal meal, on a sleep schedule and run around everywhere. Babies use diapers, breastfeed, take naps, don't walk yet. Taking them out is like taking out a baby doll lol

[chocolatetwopointo]

at least they dont scream and cry all the time, id rather have a teen than a baby tbh

[Apple1996]

My 3 month old and 1 year old barely ever cry lol my older kids are chatty tho so it worse when out. At home my older kids are fun to hang out with tho

[Apple1996]

Probably depends on the teen. My oldest is 10 so not there yet

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok, still haven't answered my question. why can't u js stay home with them until they’re old enough to save u the embarrassment and make others uncomfortable?

[Apple1996]

I don't get embarrassed and I don't care about others being comfortable lol

[Apple1996]

They deserve to travel. And I've never had the option just to keep them home. Sometimes we were traveling when we didn't even have a home lol

[chocolatetwopointo]

so ur selfish? well they won't remember travelling until they’re like 6. u had kids, but not a home? r u fkn kidding me? calling cps rq

[Apple1996]

I was in between moves. We always take the time to travel when moving between states because it's easy and my husband gets lots of time off work

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay

[Apple1996]

Yeah sorry I wasn't being clear about that. Also it's not a requirement to own a home when having kids. I've lived with family before as well. Some people do living on the road like in RVs just traveling throughout different states

[chocolatetwopointo]

thats terrible for children. if u love ur children u would be stable before having them.

[Apple1996]

It's not some kids love traveling and moving often. I acutally wish I grew up that way. Being in one town for my whole childhood sucked!

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah and some dont.

[Ms_Facesitter]

Maybe they couldn't or wouldn't find a babysitter.

[chocolatetwopointo]

”unless its an emergency ofc”

[Jmmmfi4]

Try to be a little more understanding

[Apple1996]

Your not yelling 🥹

[chocolatetwopointo]

why?

[msc545]

There is usually nothing else they can do with it.

[msc545]

Unlike suitcases they can't put it in baggage. They have to take it to their seat with them.

[chocolatetwopointo]

why not js stay home until its old enough?

[msc545]

I hear you, but that is not always an option. Why is the baby a problem for you?

[chocolatetwopointo]

r u seriously asking that?💀 if i was on a 9 h flight i wouldn't want a screaming baby near me or even on the plane, its not hard to wait until they’re old enough. and once again cuz y'all r incapable of reading smh ”unless its an emergency ofc”

[msc545]

Try ear plugs

[chocolatetwopointo]

trust me that won't help lol

[msc545]

Trust me it will.

[chocolatetwopointo]

I've tried, I've tried earplugs, headphones and noice cancelling headphones, nothing helped, the baby kept crying and the parents didn't care

[msc545]

You are not using the right equipment. I fly small single-engine airplanes that are noisy as hell. The right gear makes it very tolerable.

[chocolatetwopointo]

nope, I've used high quality. babies are the problem. nothing can stop the sound.