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The unresolved modern problems with men's fashion and it's 2020 (Page 2)
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The options are heavily influenced by our purchasing behavior. That's why it's not something to complain about. You would instead complain men won't dress up. If they will then stores will follow the trend and change their selection. They just there for sales. You need to motivate men to shop for clothes outside of work.
Too bad they won't care.
wtf cause I'm a working class citizen I'm considered hobo? Is this a rich joke I'm too poor to understand?
Anyway I'd say most men's clothes out here are sold at trading posts or bass pro shops, we even have a Levi's store which is pretty rare. Most men's fashion here I think is more catered to outdoorsy or function or in your case, hobo look.
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Well, what can I say? I hate being poor, so I choose not to be it. I mean have you seen a working class citizen having solid amounts of money?
I have never seen a levi store. Can you show me an example?
I'm sure you heard of Levi's jeans, except obviously it's more than just jeans lol, they have other clothing
I just grabbed that off of Google lol
Oh, i see. Nah, i have never seen one of those.
ya I think it's like one place that has general men's fashion honestly, or what id consider, but sierra trading post is prob my favorite
Where i currently reside it's a poor country (not in Germany) and most men don't care about looking good with clothes. Since they're poor they grab whatever fits them at pretty much the lowest price. Some of them wear suits however.
Women tend to dress any way they want from cute or gorgeous all the way to a street rat with ripped pants.
That is likely the reason why we don't have them as many.
I mean what country? I actually reside in the US (grandparents from Germany), and cheap is usually better here
Let's just say UTC +03:00 timezone countries
damn bro I'm sorry about that if google serves me right, I'm good you get out of there one day
it's **
I'm working on it. Endured being stranded. Got a degree. Now all that's left is applying for a job in Germany and getting outta there. "Freedom" awaits.
Agreed, I posed the question a while back for someone to point out a clothing store that caters to men only, an actual brick and mortar store. No-one could name anything other than maybe a store that specializes in mens suits, which have for the most part remained unchanged for 100 years, other than small details. Women even have whole stores dedicated to their underwear, for men you have to buy a pack of 5 plain whatever. Not a lot of options for menswear period. Button downs, polos in solid colors or maybe stripes, t-shirts, jeans or some type of khaki or dress pant, or shorts that hang just above the knee. Mens fashion over the last 100 years has changed, but still extremely conservative. Womens fashion over 100 years is far beyond.
Yeah I dunno man-- a lot of that extra shit doesn't exist because guys don't want it. I don't want most of what you mentioned, for example; I know some guys do but a lot don't. And if a lot of us don't want it, that means we won't buy it, which means it ain't going to be made.
Makes sense.
It's not even that some extra fashion is bad, I mean it's not a matter of bad vs. good-- if not enough dudes are going to buy it, and perhaps their market studies indicate they won't maybe, I dunno, then they (whichever company we're talking about) aren't going to seriously invest in that line, you know? Profit comes first to these companies, often because they're just greedy, but often because it has to.
I understand that. Supply and demand. It's how capitalism works. Not blaming them but still. Thankfully some online shops offer designer clothes, although twice as expensive as you would get from a local clothing store, it is still worth it. I see the way they work is"if there's a demand, then the customer places an order and we'll get to producing it and shipping it". Thus on demand they sell it. Clever business!
I generally wish men had more options. Nowadays teenage boys seem more feminine in how they dress. It’s nice that they can express themselves in different ways. Men are having more options as time goes on. I feel very soon men’s skirts will be mainstream.
That must be a joke.
Surely you jest! Skirts for men? Look, boys/men shouldn't be feminine: they should be masculine. That's just the natural order, the way it's been for millennia now, and it works. Why try to tamper with a winning formula?
Start watching men's style videos an you will be surprised how you actually have more options than you think. Also, you always have the option of starting a business of various men's products by yourself.
Gotta get a MBA first and a huge starting capital.
But you're on g@g so might as well be on YouTube xD
What do you mean?
Umm there is some truth to this. Although I think we have a bit more options than you named. Truth is most American men seem to lean more towards urban/sports wear nowadays, one has no issue finding Nike, Adidas and Underarmour in most stores. But if you're talking more formal to casual wear it is a bit more of a hunt but I would argue it's the by product of low demand.
Right!
Because woman go shop 24 hours a day men go shop twice a year soo shops aim majority of their clothes for women. All though I seen shops that have the same amount of clothes for men and women. What I wish is they had a bigger children clothes section because when i have children I want lots of choices. This is a weird thing to notice there are bigger problem in the world than clothes.
That doesn't mean all things can't improve though because if its not noticed then it won't ever change and it does get boring having to be in the gender boxes that companies decide. I totally get what you're saying, but a lot of things Americans give too much care about could be classified as not important in the grand scheme of things.
Men don't go shopping also because they are taught from a young age not to care about shopping and boys don't go shopping so when they get older they don't go shopping. If we instilled in our kids that cleaning the house is important, doing yard work is important, shopping for yourself and buying groceries is important for both genders we would have better more well rounded adults in society. I hope Gen Z parents change this for their kids
Men and women are different they are never going to be interested in the same things because scientifically we have different brains from each other thats a majority. Now there are minority who don't fit into the gender roles which is fine but I like men being men and women being women no need to teach men to like girl stuff too many men trying to be women already. Masculinity is dying and I am attracted to masculine men
I guess I'm arguing for both. I feel like both typical gender roles have things each gender needs to learn to be a self sufficient human which is arguably more important nowadays that people aren't getting married as fast. Girls need to know how to do car stuff and take care of outside things or learn how to fix a leaky faucet and boys need to learn how to cook, do laundry, shop for clothes for all occasions, buy gifts, grocery shopping etc. I don't see it being less manly that I can do all of those things because that way if my wife is gone my kids won't lose anything and when they grow up they will both know how to do all the work that needs done around the house that can be done by both genders such as mowing the lawn or cleaning and mopping the house. All I'm trying to say is gender roles are societal constructions to a degree. You can still be a manly man and make cookies and mow the yard in the same day.
If men learned from women more and women learned from men, they men would also especially be more less likely to be douchebags and maybe it would reduce the amount of toxic masculinity that spurned the me too movement and physical violence against women. I'm not always proud of my male brethren, a lot of them have a lot to learn about what being a manly man should mean
First world problems. Still, I wouldn't ignore these first world problems.
I have same problem...
I go to shop, I have to choose from that little men's part, where big part of that almost nothing part is for showoffs or old men... Something they know they will sell quickly... That is how my mall looks...
So I have to stick with what is there or go online and buy something, that could be in Chinese sizes ( nothing wrong with them, just seller needs to label properly..) or misguided pics, or simply not fit me...
I don't mention all this hugely overpriced 'fashion' BS with fancy levels as I can get stuff specialty tailored for me with same or better materials cheaper and with better made quality in country I live, without any sweatshops involved. And most of that 'fashion' BS looks ridiculous to me and I wouldn't be able to wear it...
I don't think there's not enough clothes/accessories to choose from for men. As you said the problem is that majority of men don't experiment with their style and usually tend to go with basics so then shops are full of this fancy stuff that nobody wants to buy.
Could be due to men's social stigma? I remember encouraging wearing pink before.
I work in the offshore oilfield so fashion isn't very important to Me. Now I do believe when I go out I need to look better than a slob so I'll wear a sports coat, nice jeans, and boots but other than that it's shorts around the house.
That's alright! For each person they have their reasoning. it's cool that you acknowledge appearing better than a slob when going out.
I took a liking to wearing a sportscoat it just sucks that the south is always hot.
South is where "exactly"?
I don't see the problem, if anything there is to many cloth stores in malls today. If I wanted I would have plenty of options to pick from but they are all just brand stores who sell high priced products which isn't what I want. Especially when all you get is making yourself into a walking ad. Personally I got to sports and outdoors shop to pick my clothes, because they at least stock a bit more practical clothes, even if they certainly can be pricey.
Men sit at home shopping online
Women are out all the time shopping in malls.
It's just simple economics.
We dont need to have perfect fitting clothing, women do thats why they always go to the changing rooms and there's an entire floor dedicated to returns.
I believe that men have more than enough. If he has the brain power to combine all together. classy casual and he looks great.
Jeans shirt top part of suit. And you got good looks. You can dress like in 1970's man with good looks.
For those who love to look like clowns. you can mimic whatever james charles does.
I agree. I also find that men's socks, underwear and t shirts do not accommodate the bodyshape that well. If you have large muscles, like back and chest muscles your t shirts need to be bought a size too big, or will restrict your breathing.
Yep. It's very hard to find stuff especially if you're taller or more built. (Wearing a 2XL shirt, when you really need an XLT looks baggy.) Pants are particularly frustrating, as so many brands do slim or skinny and omit regular options. Can't even get a leg through some of those jeans even though the waist/length is the same as what I wear. It's like they don't expect a guy to have calves/quads anymore.
I have the same problem but with shoes 😅
How about... We get pockets and you guys can get nice umbrellas 😀
Huh?
She's implying women's clothes don't often have pockets like in dresses or on jeans and the ones on jeans are not very usable. Ergo she'll take guys pockets on her clothes and trade us more colorful umbrellas than black
@PhantomThread28 Ah, understood, got it! Cheers for clarifying that!
Sounds like a plan :D
Problem is men are just too pragmatic. They find an outfit that's works and they stick to it. Since all men are wearing the same 3-5 outfits almost universally, that's all the stores sell.
Correct!
You've used a lot of words to say nothing, kid.
Fashion houses make money by providing what is selling, and has a good chance of selling.
Just as Hollywood has not produced anything original for decades, as people pay to see the same old crap plot lines and platitudes.
Art styles and silhouettes for men have changed quite a bit. Just not for high street tat you're likely buying.
My girlfriend recently told me shoes and hats have to match. What a surprise! Also she said camo doesn't match everything. I thought it matched everything. My minds blown.
I don't think she's right or wrong about that but to each their own.
Everyone knows the most important part of a man's outfit is the wallet, and the most fashionable wallets are the ones stuffed with hundred dollar bills 💵
That is certainly not a secret.