men having to make sure they always say the right things
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women having to look appealing to the eye.
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Men saying the right thing is harder hands down!
Think of it like a blind date. A woman has to show up looking clean and attractive. She doesn't have to weigh 100 lbs, she doesn't have to have a perfectly shaped nose, or the longest legs. For most men, if she looks like she takes pride in her appearance and he finds her attractive, then he is good to go. If she makes stupid jokes or sounds like a moron, a guy still might push through it. If she is awkward or clumsy but cute, she is seen as more approachable and sweet.
If a guy shows up on a blind date, he also has to look good. He can't show up not bathed, unshaven, smelling, and sloppy. Most women want him to look like he has put an effort in also. Then he has to put the real work in and actually impress her by coming off like a remotely interesting person. Few women find awkwardness adorable, like men do. If a guy is very awkward a woman might actually be afraid of him or his intentions. Most of the women I know read body language a lot and if something is off in the guys body language, she will have a problem with him.
I've heard several stories of guys and girls talking on the internet. They exchanged pictures and everything was fine. They met and it all went to crap on the woman's side. He still wanted the relationship but there was something about him she just didn't like so she ended it. And they always say "He just was different in person". Meaning "On the internet he had the time to think through a response and I couldn't see his body language."
Even in relationships I think guys have a problem with this. My partner is awful at saying romantic things. He is great at doing stuff. He is the most romantic man I know but he just can't get the words together in his mouth. He couldn't write a poem to save his life. The man can actually make hilarious raps in 2 seconds flat. But if I ask him to put two lines together regarding how he feels about me, he couldn't do it if I gave him 2 months! But he is really no different than every guy I've known in this. Guys just have such a hard time getting the words out. But I can throw on a dress I know he likes and he is focused on me all night.
That's why when any guy does have all the words, I distrust him. That is always the biggest sign of a player in my opinion.
I agree with that anonymous user down there, even if a guy is very hot and good-looking, but he has no life, is a boring person, has a boring personality, is not confident and does not value himself, has a negative attitude, is not social or outgoing, is bratty, does not have his sh*t together, girls will not want to have anything to do with him. A girl can have all of those negative qualities that he mentioned but if she is at least really hot, guys won't care, they will still like her.
I agree to a degree. If a man has choice, he will care. I would never date a *itch, someone who was boring, wasn't confident, and didn't value herself.
I very much agree with that. The only time a woman's attitude might become an issue is when a long term relationship is in question. Usually women who are pretty but have bad attitudes never lack men to date them for a few days or weeks. But they do have a very hard time keeping long term relationships. For some reason a good looking jerk does fair better in long term relationships than a beautiful bitch. Not sure why that is but that's just what I've seen.
You'd rather have a guy that doesn't know what to say? That's odd. If I didn't have the words, I would be stuck in friends with benefits with all the girls I used to hook up with. How else could I have turned them into girlfriends without expressing my feelings when the time is right. Sure I use words to be a ladies man, but just cause I'm good with words doesn't make me a player. It could be used to tell the truth as well :)
Oh sorry, that first one was directed to frustratedchump.
To anonymouse dude, I agree that there are men who don't want that kind of woman but I think overall women with bad attitudes do a hell of a lot better in the dating field than guys who are awkward. Obviously cute girls with great attitudes will do best. And even average girls with great attitudes will do really good for themselves. But awkward guys have a hell of a time no matter how nice.
Also, chics will also do what guys do, I've seen it happen. Hook up with a guy just because he's good looking.
I agree though, awkward guys have it worse. That's not that hard to remedy, just make the decision and be social. Well maybe it's easier said than done for some people I suppose...
Geez! I keep posting right after you post!! :)
Regarding my partner, he isn't great with romantic words. He is great with words. He is funny & quick-witted as hell. He is one of the wittiest guys I've ever met. His sharp mind is one of the things that attracted me to him. He just can't stand there gazing into my eyes and say "You are my sun, my moon, my so, on and so forth". Obviously in the first few months of knowing him I wasn't expecting him to come up with something like that.
And about players, I'm not talking about guys who tell the truth. I'm talking about the guy who just met you 5 seconds ago and says "Hey baby you are the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. And I think I might be falling for you already." I am going to walk away from that guy so freaking fast! Too many women have bought into that line and he knows it. Guys who can get really smooth lines out like silk make me nervous.
Socially awkward guys have it the toughest, I'd say for the most part, there are more guys out there that struggle to get a girl than the other way around, because us guys always have to be the ones to take charge and initiate, I hate it but oh well, it's been that way for centuries
Can't denied it though because that is the fact and truth, women have to be look appealing not only because they love them selves but to be attractive and pleasing to the eye. If they look messy and unattractive, they themselves feel low self- esteem and will be turn off to guys that they think they might have crush.
For guys they have to say the right things because perhaps they are a man? The head? And man is usually refer to a leader who can be more rational than a woman, someone who guide and take care, I think this is more to a ' true man' who can be the role model, I mean like a King is usually man, not woman, so they have to say the right things and woman is usually a nurture and a supporter. And also as a prime minister or president, most of them are man, and they are the head of a country. So I think you get what I mean.
I think for the conclusion is, man is the head, and should suppose to say the right things, and woman is feminism who is naturally love them selves and like to look good and impressing others, because if they look good, they feel good too and they love when their partner loves it too.
Actually technically she didnt. she just kinda went around the answer a little.
Well I don't think the leadership should be relied on just on person, it should be a partnership, that's why a King usually has his Queen
A king has his queen because they need to reproduce in the kingdom. to keep the lineage alive. doesn't necessarly mean a guy needs a woman though
Yes you say that but :) us girls have to do it aswell! thik of the right thing to say and look good :)
Its more important to look appealing for girls though. the sweet stuff is just to help us make sure we're saying the right things and such
Girls don't have to worry about saying something stupid
I admit I think too much and over analyze things and can be overly sensitive so men do have it hard because if I had to always say the right things I'd do a terrible job lol.
definetley men saying the right things, pretty much a girl just has to look good, be hot, pretty, that's all, she does not need anything else in order to attract a guy or get a boyfriend. However, us guys have to have high social status, confidence, good social skills and conversation skills, the right attitude, the right mentality, the right way of thinking, have our sh*t together(that means not still living in our parents house by a certain age, have a decent job, because traditionally we are supposed to be the main financial provider), etc. Because when us guys have to say the right things, we are prone to making mistakes, rejection, accidentally creeping a girl out. If a girl is very hot and pretty, sure a majority of the guys that will be approaching her, initiating with her will be random creepers, not the type of guy she wants, but still, if she is desperate enough, she can get any guy she wants, and eventually the right type of guy she wants will have come into her life, literally, since girls do not approach guys or ask them out, initiate.
I don't think girls have that high standards. If a guy appeals to us, or attract us, it is not That easy to mess up. He just has to be able to pull of his behaviour... It is not true at all that girls do not approach guys or initiate. If a guy would be able to keep up with all those standards you just put here, I would feel that I am NO good at all for him. If guys make mistakes, it makes me feel more at ease because he is just not perfect ~nobody is...
Though you are correct, ugrace. in that women can initiate or approach guys. it is usally for sex. meaning they most likely just broke up and feeling unattractive or theyre just plain horny and act like men when it comes to sex...most girls will not approach a guy in hopes of a relationship
What I am saying also is that a girl can be immature, be a boring person, have a boring personality, have no life, have a negative attitude, low self-esteem, not be confident, whine and mope around a lot, be pessimistic, but if she is at least very hot, us guys will still accept her, will still consider her girlfriend material. It's so much easier for a girl to get a boyfriend than for a guy to get a girlfriend.
Women expect us to be providers such as having good jobs a house and all that good stuff. while we just tend to generally think that if she's hot and has childbearing hips then she's a good catch. harsh but its reality
I agree with that anonymous user, it's sad, it's a harsh reality, but women do have an unfair advantage
Only good looking women have that unfair advantage. ugly women... well I just feel the utmost pity for.
You really think ugly women have it harder than ugly men do? is there evidence to support that?
People, be honest, you can always learn how to flirt and say crap, but you can never be visually appealing to everybody you see. Girls do not believe those hypocritical results of this poll, I want you to understand that you'll usually end up with someone who finds you sexy, you don't need to be that beautiful, you only need to meet that special one who looks sexually attractive to you as well.
Nerds, stay out, that's the truth, I'm very sorry.
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Men saying the right things is more difficult.
But if I don't find him attractive, his talking couldn't convience me to sleep with him.
women always having to look good. I feel like I'm never going to look good enough for anyone but with enough trying you'll figure out the right things to say
Seriously? most guys just want to see skin. . .it's not hard to throw on a pair of short shorts and a tank top. . .we actually have to think before we speak to appeal to a different personality every time we talk to a different girl. Plus you girls have make-up to help even more. . .however, there is nothing we guys can buy to help us figure you out.
Though true, naruto..the best way to finding out about how a woman works..is by finding out. lol. if you don't try to figure them out, theyre just gonna think WTF. and move on. its kinda like when we stare at them, and don't make a move. theyre not just gonna jump into your lap because we're staring at them intently
And when we show too much skin you think we're sluts and don't take us seriously and just use us for sex but when we don't show enough then you assume we're prudes and look right through us and then everyone's definition of too much vs. too little skin constantly change. Not to mention some things we can't help (like breast size) and then obsessing over everything else (hair, being too thin or too fat, too much muscle, too much or too few curves etc.)
All about balance. know when is too much, and what's not enough. usually you go by the "if ur gonna wear something short, wear the other longer.
Spoken like a guy, long and short don't always go together, not to mention what one guy thinks is too short another thinks is too long. And you've completely ignored everything having to do with the way a girl physically looks since we all know you care way more about what a girl looks like with her clothes off than on
True. but..we don't live in that kind of society...we still wear clothes. regardless
And since we don't live in a kind society maybe you guys should learn how to be a little less socially awkward then you can all stop complaining about how hard your life is because you have to open your mouth and talk to a girl. Girls are OK with guys not looking perfect guys aren't OK with girls not looking perfect
Women are typically and steroetypically known for youth and beauty. just how it is. unfortunately
And men are stereotypical known and expected to know what to say, it's not fair for anyone but it's easier to fix the things that come out of yourself than it is to fix your body
Plastic surgery is always an option. its fake..but an option
Have you missed everything ever written in every magazine ever? No one likes fake boobs, hair, eye lashes or fake everything and the second a guy finds out their fake they're disappointed...especially if they're boobs. face it, you guys have it easier opening your mouths. It's much easier to talk than to be perfect, and don't kid yourself, perfection is what you guys want. I have no problem trying to be perfect for you guys but a little acknowledgement would be nice
No such thing as perfect :P
i think women are turned on by more than just what they hear and it's different for every girl!
LOTS of things turn me on!
Thats why I said. for the most part. haha. make sure you read it closely
its tough being a guy;)
Can be. but..women have it worse...child birth
Very true, there for its tough to be a guy and tougher to be a girl. (in the child birth sense) but guys culturally have to keep their emotions hidden, females dont,
Women have it tougher when it comes to pregnancy and child-birth, rape, sexual assault. Men have it tougher in dating and relationships, boyfriend/girlfriend, mainly initially
Btw my girlfriend loves that I can be open about my feelings. hah
Its a good trait to have if you are male (as long as you don't do it too much.)
Ie told her. that if I overdo it to just tell me. and I won't do it as much, but because her past bf's didnt. she loves that I do
Well it sounds like you will have a lasting relationship. have fun with it
Thanks, ill try lol
If guys had to do child birth, they'd be able to. We're just lucky we don't have to. As if we couldn't take pain.
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