Who has it harder when trying to improve their desirability: men or women?

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My question is not about the theoretical babble about who has it easier based on their biology alone but more specific.

Assume that you are a mid-grade person (male or female) of no particular means, no inheritance, no influential parents. You weren’t particularly good looking nor unattractive, and in all ways basically a run-of-the-mill kind of average. Just as close to middle of the road as possibly. and wanted to “level-up” to become a high-value/highly-desirable person…who would have it easier, a man or a woman?

Since we all define what makes a man a highly desirable differently than we may define a highly-desirable woman, there is no single formula for doing so. What are your thoughts? Can it even be done?

EmyyWolf · Accepted Answer

I think it’s the same for both.
Women however will only get attention for their “🐱”, not for who they are. So women generally are in high demand regardless. Cause men are insatiable by nature.

For who is it harder, For Men. Cause men are not in high demand whatsoever.

Women can get a hairdo or blowout, and dress up in a certain way. Put on make up and that’s it. A lot of women don’t even use make up and they’re still desired. Women can also purchase a sex toy and satisfy themselves. It almost gives them no reason to date and find a partner of medium looks.

Men have to compete with eachother. Women don’t. Unless it’s the case that there is an alpha or dominant high value male around. Then the women will compete against eachother. But in most cases there’s no dominant male to compete for.

Honestly I think it’s the same for both. Generally the same. Women have to loose weight, and men have to pick up the weights and eat enough and consume all the protein they can.

Now If they are genetic flaws, like the man has no hair at 20yo, and the woman has no butt, barely any buttcheek, her nose huge like a witch, the man has ears beyond what looks natural, he’s way too short, the penis is too small…

😬😬😬😬😬😬 the yes those a genetic flaws for both male and female and EQUALLY they’re gonna have to look into plastic surgery. Or some form of correction.

It’s the same for both. Except Flawed women can get sex, men can’t. But they can only get to the sex part.

4ngelic · Accepted Answer

girls. dudes have a bit options to improve that. like except for makeup, as a dude all the glow up stuff you can do too (like you can upgrade you true looks just as much as girls), you can get some rizz, try to make your personality more appealing and also get a good/prestigious job that pays well

women mainly can just focus on looks and on personality (if the looks are good enough) to be more desirable. girl rizz is just looks and money doesn't make us more sexy (but for long term dating will make you more desirable, though it doesn't hit the same as with guys i think)

HighValue · Accepted Answer

When it comes to IMPROVING desirability, women have it harder. Women are already desirable from the start, and each thing they do tends to DECREASE her desirability, such as getting tattoos, odd piercings, having a bad past, having a kid from a past relationship, having a past of drug use that damages her eggs, aging past 35 so healthy kids are very unlikely, having a promiscuous past so she can't effectively pair bond, etc. Getting a better job/degree, etc. doesn't add to a woman's desirability. If a woman is moderately attractive or better and makes good life choices, she has it made, but bad choices permanently ruin her desirability.

A man can get stronger, learn more skills to make himself handy at fixing things, can improve his employment, etc. to improve his desirability, where as those same things don't matter if a woman did them.

Men start out with disadvantages in life because of how our society is and women start out with many advantages. Men's choices determine if they improve, and women's choices determine if they decrease in desirability.

JacobJordan · Accepted Answer

Men have far harder. It takes years for men to increase their attractiveness. Even the most average woman can just slap on some fake up and get crazy amounts of attention. Women have it so easy and the proof is how desperate they are to prove they don't.

Avicenna · Answer

I think this isn't the question that is really useful to ask. What's the endgame here, a successful long-term relationship with someone you want to be in a relationship? Then what does each have to do to get it?

Apple1996 · Answer

I think men have it harder. There's a lot a woman can do to fix herself up and look decent. Men not so much

smne35 · Answer

Man women that you hair down. Put on a nice dress or skirt some nice pumps. Some makeup. If your face needs it and you got to go toss off your glasses, put on some contact lens you good to go but a guy you got to change everything. It's posture his attitude. Getting confidence. Find something that's him. Clothing wise groom himself up. Some more difficult for a man but the most difficult part it is in the clothes or the grooming is him personally the way he behaves. He needs to have that confidence in his walk and his talk. Learn how to compose himself. Be calm, not you know. Lose it and just become immature a juvenile woman's already got him in terms of maturity. You take a man, a teenager or a man and woman. At the same age, you'll notice that the woman is more mature more composed because a woman is years ahead in maturity over a man or a male

Joshydavid25 · Answer

Men, since people seem to be more hornier for women in general (mostly men, but some women as well).. A woman could have a middle of the road face, and a decent body.. Go to the gym, put some good makeup on, and her desirability shoots up like Geyser.. With men, you gotta go to the gym to get a decent body, AND you also gotta make a good income, learn how to dress etc..

SotiCoto · Answer

Men obviously have it harder. It isn't a fair contest.
Women have a strange kind of myopia when it comes to their desirability. They're only concerned with those specific guys they're personally interested in, and besides that they just want to tart themselves up to show off to other women. What they conveniently choose to omit is that they're trying NOT to be desirable to most of the men who already find them desirable... and sometimes seem to struggle to understand that it is an exercise in futility to try and only be sexy to one guy and be ignored by everyone else.
Not to say that isn't difficult... but it isn't about being more desirable. It is about trying to narrow and refine desirability rather than increase it.

Meanwhile a lot of guys might as well just be background furniture to women.

Kelley1 · Answer

Probably women because their sexual market value declines after age 20 so any attempt to improve is offset by a getting older. However, a man's income can improve as he ages.

Claire2002 · Answer

If we talk about short-term desiderability it's easier for the woman: She puts on some makeup and upgrade her wardrobe.

But the man can own the game in the long run. Most men don't, but they have the possibility of becoming charismatic and muscular, but it takes year. If women play the same game they just become less attractive as they age. Plus, charisma and muscles are not wanted in women.

JayBones · Answer

Men. They literally just have to do push-ups and situps a few days a week. My brother was kinda preppy and never had a Date. He did just the above and took his shirt off all the time and he was never without a date or two.

Sonjita · Answer

Men can dress up too. They can do plastic surgery too. Fix their teeth, transplant hair etc. It's just a lot of men are lazy to do anything about their looks or career and they would rather just complain instead. Men nowadays don't need money like in the past. Average guy can easily get an attractive girl with a good career. Just takes a bit of charm and good behavior.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Men by a loooonnng shot. Women are born with their value, men have to earn their value.

Djaay · Answer

Men have to build to a point of desirability for others to feel compelled to approach.. Desperate men over time have made it very easy for a woman to be desirable through out image alone. Although substance inside of either men or women take a huge amount of achievement within themselves to actually be desired and what for.

normalice · Answer

If your focused on how fair the game is then you've already lost, in my experience.

GuyAnswersGirls123 · Answer

I'm not sure. I think men have more avenues to improve their perceived value but women don't have to go down as many different avenues to improve their perceived value.

Unit1 · Answer

One has to look why OnlyFans is still in business to get the answer to this question. Also the fact, that most people, who watch porn regularly are men. And sex tourism being funded by *puts hand behind my hear* men.

Anonymous · Answer

Honestly, men. Women are judged by their beauty but men will still settle for a less than attractive woman if they will get laid. Women won’t settle, typically. I’m not saying it’s right or okay but it’s the truth.

Zestyassmf1997 · Answer

That’s tough, actually. Cause a man can go to the gym. A woman who gets buff will actually look less attractive. On the flip side, men can’t wear makeup.

Nikki1989 · Answer

Men have it much harder. Their bodies start to fall apart from 30 onwards.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Guys. An average guy has to actually try to get a date. If ana average girl just smiles guys will approach.

Anonymous · Answer

Men 100%  Women have almost unlimited options.

Zorgz · Answer

Takes quite a few years for guys

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