Does high testosterone make you ugly?

[Unbeatable]

I paused a video about the nba and was left with this picture of lebron.
Obviously to be a good athlete you have to be high in testosterone, that's because athletics requires aggression, focus, and muscle. all of which testosterone has been shown to benefit.
It happens to be that Asian men have the least testosterone of the three major races, white, black and Asian. I think they are some of the most pleasing looking men on the planet.
I dont understand why females tend to like black men, even white females like black men.

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Iron man pointed something interesting out. I look high testosterone. So before you guys call me out for being racist, think to yourself that i might be including my self in the undesirable group as far as my own standards go

[Citizenkirk]

Sorry, I got too disagree on all points, as an athlete who was not the best in the world or even in the country, but still good enough to make money to pay for equipment and traveling expenses, a combat vet. who hates violence but became very good at it, and is always up to date on sustainable lifelong nutrition, health, and physical activity trends, as well as the tried and true old fashioned School of thought that it's worked for human beings for the past 3,000 years, so there must be something to it.
High testosterone, if it's abnormally high, can throw your sex drive out of whack and make certain impulse control issues hard to manage, particularly pertaining to sexual attraction and reproduction issues, but I don't know if anyone personally that has hormone imbalances that are inconsistent with their age group that do not take synthetic or controlled drugs and hormone replacement products for the purpose of performance enhancement and bodybuilding and athletics, in my opinion on Creatine products, anabolic steroids that are not prescribed for a specific medical condition, and insulin injections for people who do not have diabetes or other related problems, have no need for these products whether they're controlled substances or not, and should focus on developing a long-term sustainable baseline of athletic performance and long-term physical emotional health through good dietary choices and getting plenty of rest and hydration.
As far as aggression being necessary for athletics, I have very little aggression until someone wacks me upside the head, then they end up regretting it. You can have all the aggression in the world, but it will not make you good athlete, and it's not going to make you a good fighter, or a good anything. It's just going to make you a jerk.
Fortunately, aggression can be controlled. That's because that is under the influence of the frontal lobe, and is under direct control of the medulla oblongata, which means that you can be compelled to aggressive behavior if you have zero impulse control, or you can control it and use it to your advantage, if you have complete impulse control.
Athletic performance is an intellectual pursuit more than anything else, and the reason that human beings surpassed the perceived physical limitations of their anatomy, is because humans are primarily an intellectual species that have evolved from a base biological imperative for survival, but since our intellect has more to do with modern-day survival then the ancient aggression based imperatives that we evolved from, that should be your focus as far as becoming a better athlete. Having the good sense to avoid taking things into your body that are not necessary for survival is part of that equation.
Take it from a person with a normal, healthy testosterone - estrogen level, who hates violence, and always gives as good as he gets, who became good enough at his sports interest to be published in the National and sports publications and received good advice and counseling from people who are the best that thier sport, and want other competitors to have every opportunity to be the best they can be.
Don't worry about testosterone, because your body's got that handled, and if you got a good personality then no one's really going to care how you look anyway, not that testosterone has any real effects on your facial features. I have yet to hear of a single example within human history, of a person with abnormally high testosterone, who is not doing something to their body that is unhealthy.

[razelove]

Not necessarily, more aggressive, yeah, but it's stuff like HGH that'll fuck you up like a football bat. I have 3 balls and I'm still pretty as a peach. I gain muscle ridiculously fast when I work out, weight is easy to lose if I feel like it. Getting laid is also pretty straightforward when I put my mind to it.

I knew a lot of guys who juiced, unless they started when they were teenagers, it messed up their heads, but not their appearance, though other parts of their bodies get wrecked the more they juice or spot inject.

Most women are into manly men anyway. Some want other women, soy boys or both, but not many, there are also simply a lot of people (mostly men) choosing to be celibate now. It's a loop, women get picky, more women sleep with less men, men get frustrated by that and take themselves off the market, so even more women sleep with even less men, wash, rinse, repeat.

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-percentage-of-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-a-record-high

They actually low-balled their numbers looking at some other studies.

[Lente]

It’s not just the amount of testosterone that you produce, it’s what you do with it... Two guys with the same potential of producing testosterone might look completely different, depending on how often they hit the gym, for example.
Most straight women like guys with muscles, deep voices, etc., which you will likely have if you produce much testosterone. But too much will become unattractive. Just like an H-cup is less attractive on a woman than a C-cup (in my opinion).


It might be a reason that western women don’t find Asian men as attractive as other races. But there are a lot of differences between races that could also be factors in level of attractiveness. Think about cultural differences. So you can’t really conclude that testosterone is the reason. Unless there’s been a research that I don’t know of.


I don’t think people notice your level of testosterone. Only if you have extreme low levels or extreme high levels, making it visible, it might become a factor. If you’re in between then there are more important things people look for.

[Unbeatable]

C cups are definitely my favorite size. My reaction to h cups is "erm.."

[crazyish]

I think excessive amounts of testosterone is unattractive. As in adding to natural testosterone levels by synthetic means. Testosterone really only effects the shape of someone's face. I'm extremely attracted to manliness but I can also appreciate the females form. And for me personally, who the person is can effect my perspective on feeling attraction for them.

I honestly think it might be the other way around as far as finding testosterone attractive. The higher level of testosterone a man has the more likely he will be attracted to more feminine qualities and vice versa.

Something else to consider is the levels of the opposite hormone in each individual. Your take about Asians makes me curious about their levels of estrogen compared to their testosterone levels. Definitely makes me wonder.

[Unbeatable]

I've got extreme attraction to feminine qualities. What would excessive feminity look like?

[crazyish]

That depends on what aspects you are referring to. Physically or emotionally. Too much estrogen can make women seem mentally unstable, trust me, I was a lunatic when I was pregnant 🤣 I was referring to the aggression aspects. My ex husband and my brother used to use synthetic testosterone powder to gain muscle quicker. But it made them quick to react with excessive anger and get into fights with other dudes. They were not pleasant to be around, especially drunk.

[Unbeatable]

I know. I was unstable during puberty, i wouldn't take shit from anyone. I never did synthetics, so i wouldn't go bald, get mad at everyone or get tiny balls.😂
But whats a girl like physically with estrogen dominance?

[crazyish]

😂😂 to think of it.. he was going bald.. lol

Excessive estrogen can give women bigger boobs😆.. that's the only physical feature I know of but gives a higher chance of breast cancer

[Jaylaaa2000]

The more testosterone the more masculine you look.
The less testosterone more feminine.
Most women prefer men to look male, not female.
You don't know why black men are preferred by some women because you have a preference of feminine looking men, and assume 2 things that you are the expert on what is considered attractive and that all black men are masculine looking because obviously you have very little experience irl with black males, because you would see their masculinity is no different than any other race.

[Unbeatable]

I live around blacks

[Jaylaaa2000]

Even if you are telling the truth, living around them and experiencing is very different.
Also like i said you have made the assumption that you are the master of what attraction is.

[Unbeatable]

I played sports with blacks and went to school with them
Im asking for your opinions at the same time that i gave mine

[JDavid25]

Basically you are saying the more a man looks like a man, the more ugly they are... 😂😂.. You assume guys with softer features are more attractive, than guys with more masculine features.. But testosterone measure doesn't corrallate with how you look in people's eyes.. Also where is the study that "Asian" men have the least testosterone on the planet? Can't make an assertion without evidence..

[Unbeatable]

You're an attractive guy by female standards. I have no clue why. Masculine men are less healthy and live shorter lives.

[JDavid25]

Thanks man.. 😎👉.. And yeah Testosterone does have certain affects.. And well masculine men are less Healthy because usually men are less concern for our health.. And yeah I do think testosterone does have something to do with us living shorter lives.. Or it could that we generally do more risky endeavors and care less for our well being.. But Masculinity has a lot to offer and benefits too.. Like every single huge structure in the world was built by men.. Masculinity weeks to build and protect.. Masculinity also inspires because of its strength.. Stuff like that.. 😅

[Unbeatable]

there are upsides to it. But China has the second largest economy. Their buildings are very impressive. Perhaps in the future, we won't need traditional masculinity anymore, cause a different kind will be more adapted.

[JDavid25]

"But China has the second largest economy.".. Traditional masculinity still built those buildings.. LOL.. China has plenty of traditional masculine men.. I guess that's why they only allow men in their military service.. I would say the U. S in general has less testosterone than China.. 😂.. I doubt you'll find a lot of soy boys there..

[JDavid25]

Look at that... that's China's military.. 😂😂..
pbs. twimg. com/media/DnX-9DyW4AEKJ23. jpg

[JDavid25]

I hope this one works.

[Phoenix98]

If you have naturally higher testosterone levels then it does have a lot of benefits.

1# Sharper features and a better more pronounced jawline among other more masculine features.

2# Deeper voice

3# High sex drive and virility.

4# You gain muscle a lot quicker then other people and the amount you gain is higher also.

5# Body shape it can lead to you developing a more masculine body.

Really it's up to the genetic lottery, some folks get lucky and some don't.

[FocusOfSuspicion]

Umm... beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. The men you chose to display as examples of “pleasing to the eye” appear, well... quite feminine, which as a straight female, I find less desirable. I LIKE the look of masculinity. Maybe it’s grittier and not as smooth and dainty, but that’s cool with me because I am attracted to men, not women.

[Unbeatable]

a lot of Asian females that are accustomed to how Asian men behave and look might say that black men are quite frankly disgusting. It has little to do with being straight.

[FocusOfSuspicion]

I disagree. Appreciating masculinity, is something people attracted to males do. Appreciating femininity is something people attracted to females do. Therefore, straight females (and gay males, for example) would have an appreciation for masculine features, many of which develop because of exposure to testosterone.

[Unbeatable]

It doesn't really matter what people appreciate if it isn't adapted to the current environment. We dont really need that caveman masculinity in society anymore. People dont need to spend life in prison, even though so so many women would be attracted to the type of guy in prison. It shouldn't be said that tempered men are less attractive to straight women.

[FocusOfSuspicion]

So we’re talking about looks and now you’re bringing in personality. That’s not fair. That’s a whole different beast.

[Unbeatable]

In some cases the people are very sweet but get bullied for how they look. Think of George Floyd.

[FocusOfSuspicion]

And now we’re completely off topic.

[GirlyGal20]

um.. honestly I'm least attracted to black men I'd say and most to white/hispanics/and sometimes Asians. I like a manly man but the NBA types are a bit too agressive/manly for me? Also you picked a picture of some very feminine looking Asian men, there are some much better looking Asian men out there

[Unbeatable]

You're looking for a balance then.

[GirlyGal20]

that's right. I also like the pretty boy athletic types.

[Unbeatable]

The Asian guys in the pic have abs

[GirlyGal20]

I'm sure they do, but for some reason they have a very feminine face

[Unbeatable]

Is that bad. I like how they look

[GirlyGal20]

yeah not into them at all

[Unbeatable]

What if they behaved manly?

[GirlyGal20]

no their faces (at least those Asian guys) are too feminine. Faces like Ian somerhalder's and Chace crawford's are pretty but still manly in my opinion

[Unbeatable]

I can see what you mean.

[yourbabygirl921]

Honestly no there's guy who have high testosterone and are handsome and manly looking as for me Asian men (as an Asian myself) they're cute but I'm not into men who acts a little childish and cutiesh I like mature and strong looking and especially manly lookin' man.

[Unbeatable]

I would like to be Asian because they're cute *and* strong spirited

[NyceGuyFinishingLast]

Too much testosterone can definitely make you look more manly. That is why female body builders look very masculine in the face because they have to increase their testosterone level in order to achieve that level of muscle tone. Every guy is different with the level of testosterone normally produced in the body. There are normal ways to increase the level of testosterone but I don't think it would make you ugly. It would have to dramatically increase to change the way you look.

[TheSpaceGnome]

It's not testsosterone that causes the types of differences you are seeing. You can have high T levels and still look like any of the people in those pics.

Also lots of people blame hairloss and wrinkles on dht , but the reality is its poor bloodflow to the scalp that results in hairloss, and wrinkles are from dehydration and malnutrition or lack of sleep.

[Gosceewual]

intresting way to think of it, i always thought i was ugly cos i have a super masculine caveman look, i am pretty sure i have high testosterone cos my sex drive is crazy high and i started growing a beard at 14 n my puberty was over by 14, i was the same height i am now and had a deep voice n mind was mature at 14

[Unbeatable]

I agree but women would find you attractive. Im confused as to why.

[Gosceewual]

yh, its weird, but hey, its a good thing i guess lol

[SHREYASH007]

I agree with you partially, don't know about testosterone and neither colour.
I find Asian men like korean and kind of those a bit feminine.
and black like the one shown above as ugly.
but someone like dwayne johnson as good looking though he is black.

Basically if the guy has sharp features he looks attractive and if he has blunt features then it looks ugly , colour doesn't matter , but in general black men don't have sharp features so most of them turnout to be ugly.

[Unbeatable]

They look to be like sharp knives, but whoever shaepened them was drunk

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You need to have normal and healthy levels of testosterone.

Having too much testosterone will make your face and hand oily, have trouble sleeping and basically act like a wild animal without control.

[exitseven]

I knew guys from the gym that used steroids. It causes not only your muscles to grow but also tour bone structure. Long term use made their jaw bones to get larger and when they stopped the drugs the jawbones stayed big.

[0112358]

Has it occurred to you that women have different tastes then you do?

[Unbeatable]

Yes but i doubt that assertion is accurate

[DiegoO]

Been ugly depends more of a social construct than pure biology. If we go by biology, looking healthy and having a simetrical face, makes desireable. That goes for females as well.

[Anonymous]

No, High Testosterone does not make one ugly, I think this makes no sense

[g0dof_GaG]

Yeah go is Asian guys! But jk I think its not a race thing

[Tstrbrainer]

Well, a straight female would be normally attracted to testosterone, so it is not surprising

[Iron_Man]

You look like LeBron and Snoop Dogg

[Dontaaa]

Go away, you freak of nature.

[GoldenTulip]

Well.. i think it is up to your personal taste.

[JamieLoves]

I think that would be negroid genes 🧬 ( DNA )

[serious]

No of course not.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

H R O U

[princeofromance]

No...

[visio9]

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