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This is a nonissue.
No one is appropriating culture by this definition and I highly doubt you can prove that someone dresses as a Native American "to pass off the culture as their idea". Partially because it's impossible to fool anyone that you begat a culture that everyone already knows about from history, by wearing a costume. It is simply another thing wokeologists have invented to have more things to be outraged over. This kind of obsession is self-damaging and unhealthy, when you're just constantly looking for things to be offended by in the minute details of everyday life. If the Minnesota Vikings team are all dressed in historically inaccurate Norse garments and horned helmets, do I have a "right" to be offended on behalf of my long deceased ancestors? Sure, I can be. But no one is obliged to care. It's pointless and steals time from actual issues in this world, like war, terrorism, dictatorships, secret nuclear programs, political fragmentation.
It isn't actual representatives of cultures who ever make a fuss of someone having a Geisha mascot for their football team, it's radical leftists who simply despise everything in general.
No one for that matter *can* claim a culture as their own. First you have to define who are "they" who try to do so exactly. And what makes you think anyone believes that 14 year old Maya's Cinco De Mayo costume from Mexico on Halloween is her invention entirely, you'd have to be unbelievably ignorant of the history of a neighboring country, or have lived under a stone given their medial attention as well.
Young and immature activists who engage in this and think themselves heroes or morally good for taking a stand are painfully foolish. By this definition of "cultural appropriation" the only viable cases we can observe comes from westernized eastern countries. Why is it for example, that Korean dramas contain young people in suits, shirts and skirts and not their traditional attires? These garments are entirely western, begotten in England, Italy, France. Asia had no part whatsoever in the making of traditional classical styles nor had they any contact with them until they modernized with the West's help. Yet they all "appropriate" these fashions from the West. Suits have developed from centuries of fine clothing denoting nobility and status in Europe.
So, should this be an enormous deal to us? No, because they're clothes. They don't harm anyone by being worn and no one is "tricked" into believing a culture isn't what it really is. Anyone who propagates cultural appropriation needs to grow up and come on in to the adult world where real problems are still very much rampant.
u Very well stated, thank you. When I was in high school we put on a stage version of “The King and I.” I was the narrator for “The Small House of Uncle Thomas” because I could (at least superficially) pass for a Siamese (Thai) girl. The rest were costumed as 1800s Siamese dancers. Afterwards I heard the term “cultural appropriation” for the first time; it came in a letter from a self-righteous non-Asian woman who took exception to the entire production. The school sent her a polite reply that we were paying homage to a Rodgers and Hammerstein classic, and nothing more.
There is simply no such things as universal definitions when it comes to culture. In the American context, I find most claims fraudulent. Especially when it comes to African-American Culture. Because afterall. . . it is the "American version". That's why it is named as such. The only cultural experience I think that is unique and totally misunderstood and appropriated is what we would call American Indian Cultures.
Like folks really thought American Indians danced like this nonsense at the University of Illinois.
As opposed to the real thing. They could have asked right? They could have had some real native dancers come to games and put on a show for the crowd. But nah, they dressed some dude up in a costume and had him dancing around like an idiot.
And the real thing is so much more beautiful and compelling. Which is better? Hands down.
Cultural appropriation in the US is so DUMB. Because the hate white people get for wearing braids is DUMB. I’m Nigerian and no one caress do whatever braids you like that’s okay. And if cultural appropriation was real then blacks have no right to African culture. Being black doesn’t mean you have the right to wear Nigerian clothing or braids except you’re Nigerian. Because the way I hear people talk is I’m African so I can wear it or I’m black. Countries have cultures sooo if you don’t come from a country you’re APPROPRIATING that countries culture. Just because a someone is white or Caucasian you don’t see them going to a variety of European cultures and wearing their cultural attires blah blah blah and saying oh I’m white.
Soooo in summary cultural appropriation is dumb the owners offf these cultures don’t careeee who uses them. It’s more important for it to be widespread this way preserving our culture. At the end of the day black and white Americans are both seen as foreigners black people except African immigrants can’t relateee to Africans soooo they’re practically the same as white people. NO ONE CARES just celebrate the culture don’t hate on it
Not really no. At least not to the point idiots make it out. So what if someone does something another culture has, That's how people fucking learn about otger things. We were meant to take an learn things from others. This idea you can't do soemthing another race or whatever has done is stupid
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Cultural appropriation is the stupidest thing liberals ever came up with... and I am a liberal.
EVERY HUMAN ON THIS PLANET OVER THE PAST 2 MILLION+ YEARS HAS BENEFITED FROM "CULTURAL APPROPRIATION".
EVERY
SINGLE
HUMAN
To realize this, all you have to do it realize the technology you are using or the food you eat. Their origins are from all over Earth.
For example, when we think of Irish history, we think of the Great Famine / Irish Potato Famine in the 1840s that led to a vast migration of Irish to the USA. Of course, with the Irish coming here, they influenced American culture...
... but what about those potatoes that were planted in Ireland? Where did they come from?
Peru in South America but having spread across the Americas. Potatoes are now a staple food in many of the cuisines all over the world.
Should Peruvians be bitching at the rest of this planet that we've all culturally appropriated potatoes?
No, because if they did, then we should bitch at them for culturally appropriating computers and telephones.
I think the entire mess is a huge steaming pile of bullshit!! Not only is it just ONE MORE THING to get knit-picky and whiney about for no reason at all, it's HELPING "THEM" DIVIDE US!!! That's EXACTLY what they want!!! "Divide and conquer" is their motto and they're WELL on the way to doing it!!! And the SJWs, BLMs and antifa are stoking the living shit out of THAT fire!! What they don't know is, they are BEING USED for EXACTLY that purpose and, once "they" get what they want, the SJWs, BLMs and antifas will be in the same FEMA prison camps as the rest of us wondering what the fuck happened!! YOU gave the gun to the baby!!! THAT'S what happened!!!
So, instead of whining like cry babies about who's wearing what clothes or looking this way when they should look that way, which is NOTHING MORE than the distractions "they" want so "they" can do all their shit to us that they're planning, why don't y'all just try to work the fuck TOGETHER? "THEY' are our common enemy!!! If WE don't band together to fight them, WE ALL LOSE!!! At that point, y'all can whine `til you're blue in the face and ain't NOBODY gonna be listening to you or giving a flying fuck anymore!!!
"I have my rights!!!"
"WHAT rights? We took them away from you, with YOUR HELP, thank you!! Remember?"
Dashiki's come from India, I like dashiki's! I used to wear them all the time and would still do, if I could find some. They're very comfy and look pretty cool. If I could find a Nehru jacket (also Induah), that'd fit me, I'd get at least one! I like the way the look!! Does that mean I'm committing a cultural appropriation? NO!! I'm not TRYING to be an Induah, I just like some of the clothes. Are they doing it to us when they wear our style suits and ties or t-shirts and jeans instead of sari's and the other gear they're known for wearing?
When I'm oon stage, i've discovered that iit''s MUCH easier for me to play drums the way I do if I wear a leotard, mini skirt and pantyhose! it's also much more comfy!! I'm not TRING to be a girl!! I'm just wearing what works best for me doing the work I do the way I do it! Since I started doing it in `86, I've heard of a number of other drummers doing likewise!! (At least with the skirt.) Does that mean I'm sexually appropriating? Besides, look at how many women wear pants, male style shirts and haircuts and even suits & ties and tuxedos!! Why is it okay for them but not for us?
Technically yeah, but depending on how people define it it isn't always a bad thing. Also, attributing something to one culture is also questionable. For example Nordic people used to have dreads and they developed that way entirely independent and without any interaction with Africa (I don't know which came first). But I'm sure many people would say a Nordic man having dreads is cultural appropriating black cukture. Not to mention, culture can be improved upon. So barring any outsiders from trying or improving anything culture-related is only a hindrance to progression. I also don't think the term is applied equally or fairly. I'm sure there's a lot more to say about cultural appropriation, but this is what comes to mind. I especially find "cultural appropriation" silly in a community with multiple if not plenty of cultures that inevitably will mesh together.
Lastly, we need to remember we are all humans partaking in human culture. If aliens suddenly come to earth and show us societies of many different types of aliens that we then partake in, I'd imagine suddenly our perspective on our separate cultures might seem closer when subject to the scope of differing species. It's just a matter of perspective. Because the typical argument is "that's not your culture" but how many people within that community partake or support that culture that wouldn't be considered wrongfully partaking that culture. You can broaden the scope and say that there are humans outside of communities that didn't support or create that culture.
Its a non issue. What i find most comical is the only ones that complain about it are angry rich white women. The people that are supposedly being appropriated dont even mind.
My favorite football team is the KC Chiefs. Every year there is a campaign to have the name changed and removed. The name doesn't derive from native Americans as a whole, In 1963, the team picked the "Chiefs" name to honor former mayor Harold Bartle, whose nickname was "The Chief" and was instrumental to bringing the team from Dallas to Kansas City.. And angry white leftists have bitched and moaned that its cultural appropriation and offensive to native Americans. Here is the funniest part about it. When ACTUAL native Americans were asked about this, They loved the name and imagery and would be offended if it were changed..
Another favorite one, There was a Jewish white boy boy wearing dreadlocks on a college campus, This entitled person actually was going to attack him. I believe her name was Bonita or something. In any case People like that only hurt what they are trying to protect..
Bottom line, if cultural appropriation were a bad thing, like really a bad thing, then All of the technology we use in society, All of our daily conveniences should be limited to those that invented it.. Which would mean that white people only should be allowed to use anything with a microchip because it was a white man at Texas instruments that invented it. Same thing with cars, Planes, Trains...
No, Mixing the cultures is a good thing, and no one here could ever prove me wrong.
Must have triggered a special snowflake.. Grow up.
I find it odd that only Europeans manage to be guilty of "cultural appropriation". When Africans or Asians wear Armani or Versace why isn't that considered cultural appropriation? It's only when someone white wears a sari or a headdress that everyone loses their shit
Case in point. A little girl losing her shit because an adult mentions an uncomfortable truth.
What's wrong princess? Not got the guts for an argument at an intellectual level?
How many times have you been told in a job interview that you're not getting the job because of the colour of your skin? I've lost count.
How many times have kids thrown rocks at you because your partner wasn't your ethnicity? I ended up run out of the town.
Oppression? You have no fucking idea what that is.
You're acting woke by taking a woke topic and trying to put people against each other and expect me to agree with you
@JesseJayNeak lol ok
POV: trying to shame a black guy for being white even though he has never been white but spent a lot of time with them and assuming that I have privilege because she doesn't have the decency of asking what color the person she's talking to is
You did that to me
Isn't the idea that diversity promotes exchange of ideas and cultures. So how can the same people who are all for diversity and multiculturalism considering cultural appropriation a bad thing?
Additionally - if we really go by that - what about all the modern technological inventions which are almost exclusively created by caucasians. Should the entire world not use those?
It is, but I'm tired of people, especially white people, trying to pretend like there's one particular thing that will ALWAYS offend group X. There are those who will take offense to something and those that won't. Best thing to do is show sensitivity to those around you, use common sense, and have the humility to accept that somebody can be upset at something that you do.
Cultural appropriation is claiming an aspect of someone's culture as part of your own, when that culture has been demonized for doing it.
Cultural appreciation is where it's at. Acknowledging that what you're doing is appreciating the culture by learning about it and embracing it.
I honestly don't believe it literally everyone takes inspiration from everyone. Like I am a writer and I personally created black people as ninjas but ninjas are Japanese am I offending of cultural appropriation, I logically don't think I am. Now actually mocking a specific culture is now a terrible thing to do.
yes, cultural appropriation is a thing and most cultures on the planet do it all the time. it's not a malevolent evil thing. only america for some reason finds that problematic. probably cause problematizing that helps certain people fight for their interest.
Cultural appreciation is real. That does not mean it is bad. It means that there is apart of your culture that people like either for values, looks, ideas, or it just makes them happy. It's a celebration of culture that make us stronger and the acceptance of new ideas.
Culture and race aren't the same thing. Blacks in America have a totally different culture than Blacks in Africa. Greeks living in ancient rome have a totally different culture than Greeks living in the byzantine empire and greeks living today. Culture appropriation is a racist concept in itself because it suggest that people from different races aren't equal.
Not so much. I can understand people taking offense at others wearing their religious costume. But I think it's crazy to complain because someone is wearing the everyday clothing of another culture.
no it's not a thing. its just a thing that minorities like to say to have control over stuff. my culture is American culture. which is literally a melting pot of cultures
it's culture appreciation if anything.
No. Every culture has taken or borrow something from another culture since probably the beginning of humanity. It’s not something that anyone should fine offensive.
Nah.
If you had ever done anything creative in your life you would know there is no such thing as an "original idea".
People been doing that for thousands of years. In the 1920's women wore outfits copied from the walls of the tombs of Egyptian pharaohs.
Cultural appropriation is just another way for people to play the victim and divide people. We really need to stop that shit.
It isn't a matter of belief because it exists. I think you are trying to ask whether or not it is ok or not.
No.
It's a childish game of:
"B-but I used it first!"
No, it doesn't. How can you appreciate the culture of others if you don't share it?
If you're trying to sound woke, then it's not working
You're speaking about "cultural appropriation" as if it's a true thing. Your argument is a non-argument
Yes it’s a real thing, if you’re going to argue it isn’t than at least prove your point somehow than just making a blanketed statement and bringing nothing to the table.
With that same exact logic it’s like you going up to your boss and saying you want a raise and when they ask you why you should get a raise you just answer by saying because you said so?
Dreads for example. Do you know who made them?
Dreads have been found in multiple cultures. I don’t think you can appropriate dreads but you can be disrespectful about them. Like for example, ignorant people that say that dreads are dirty or think dreads can’t be washed even though a quick google search can educate people on dreads
Who were the first to do so? Do you know them?
So, black people wearing dreads is cultural appropriation right?
Look how's talking. As at the moment I said black people appropriating dreads, which you said originally were from India, you started with this bs response
Didn't you said they ORIGINATED in India. Key word: ORIGINATED
You didn't answer mine
Also, cultural appropriation is not a thing
And black people took that as their own right? Isn't that cultural appropriation?
So cultural appropriation is only applicable when white people do it, right? Is that what you're saying?
That's what you're implying. If you didn't, then you wouldn't have been so defensive when I mentioned black people and Indians when it comes to dreads
Also, I'm black
Nice job assuming things
1) it's not a thing 2) I've been around white people all my life and have no problem enjoying our culture. You're speaking about it as if it's a bad thing
Yes, you have. You tried to call me stupid
Uneducated and assumed I was white
I said what you did makes you sound stupid, not that you where stupid. Don’t take it personal, no hard feelings.
The reason why I called you stupid is because you claim that cultural appropriation doesn’t exist yet when I questioned you and asked you to give me a valid reason as to why you think this way you just ignored me which leads me to believe you don’t know what you’re talking about. Which would be inherently stupid for you to believe something blindly without having a valid claim or backing behind what you believe in.
Cultural appropriation is bad, give me a reason why stealing someone else’s culture and trying to rebrand it as being your own culture isn’t bad?
"Stealing" culture is not a human trait. Appreciating culture is.
I could say the same with black people with dreads. Or East Asia copying the West and many more
Also, it would be WAY more concerning if people DIDN'T engage in other people's cultures. Because that's what we are. We want what we like
Because you're getting worked up for an ignorant argument. How old are you?
They why are you offended on behalf of people?
That's what means getting worked up
Then why are you making this question and speak only against white people when everybody does it?
Because it's not a thing
No, because the vast majority of what people point to is prevalent in multiple cultures.
No, we keep copying/pasting each other all the time, there's no copyright in cultural costumes.
Sort of a thing, and when it happens, very obnoxious.
I see that a lot here in the united states
Taco bell is an example lol
Nope, it ain't a thing.
The Witcher Netflix show is cultural appropriation
Do u mind
White girl with box braids
I don’t think white girls should wear box braids cause they weren’t made for their hair type/texture so it might pull on their scalp too much since most straight hair is on the thin side compared to curlier hair types but I don’t really care if a white girl wears braids as long as she isn’t being disrespectful and trying to say she created it or doing it cause it’s trendy but bashing black girls that wear the same hairstyle
What about a white girl operating a business where she offers box braids and does them good?
But what if she was good? Would you get it done with a white girl?
@doopayo what are your thoughts on why black people always talk about race all day? Do you think about race everyday?
Actually, black people don’t always talk about race. In my experience whenever black people want to talk about something like cultural appropriation or slavery it’s white people that always abuse the race card and make everything about themselves and their white fragility. Which I could care less about. It’s borderline narcissistic in my opinion
I don't know I think black people bring up race the most. I’ve never seen Asians or Hispanics talk about race
Hispanic means of Spanish origin so there’s many races within the ethnicity but it’s mostly Mexicans.
I’m asking why black people always talk about race all the time
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