It’s either ugly and unnatural or you can’t tell it’s there and are upset when she takes it off and isn’t the 8 you didn’t deserve to begin with mr.5… pick a side you can’t have both lol.
I don't think there's a contradiction here at all, though it's a bit distasteful and rude to say that to someone you supposedly care about. I personally don't like make-up, but it's for many reasons and I don't call people out for it (though I do make sure I avoid people who use it a lot when dating.)
I think make-up makes a people less like their natural self than without it, and as I pay attention to a girl and get attached to her appearance it is her most natural form that I want to get attached to. It is that attachment that creates my perception of her beauty as I fall in love with her, and if that attachment were with a version of her that is not her at the most basic level I would feel sad.
Make-up accentuates features, but those accentuations in principle feel synthetic to me. Consequently, when I see them, they look distasteful to me. I don't find models or celebrities attractive for the most part consequently. Even if I don't notice and I only later find out, it will still start looking distasteful to me, because I feel like I'm not looking at something authentic anymore. Does that make sense?
That is not even to mention that if the make-up is noticeable, I find it physically unattractive in its own right. Beauty is necessarily in the natural form (or my perception of a natural form) for me.
Plus, I don't like encouraging a society that makes girls think their natural forms are not enough or that beauty products like that are necessary to make them attractive or accepted. That sounds devastating.
Well I really don't understand why they would feel that way I personally like it when women keep their face natural without any makeup however if they decide to put it on every now and then it's also pretty 👍 nice
I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but I'm saying it anyway. Men don't mind make up, it's clown makeup they don't like and I don't think it's to do with deception, no one is dumb enough to be fooled by a woman who slaps it on with a trowel. What puts men off is the mindset of women who wear heavy makeup, what exactly goes through their minds when they look in their mirror? There's obviously some deep psychological issues going on and that's what scares guys off.
Honestly make-up is only deceiving in photos. You have the perfect lighting and the right angles. In person you can see the skin texture you can see the contour.
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It’s really an issue of women who wear wag too much and literally try to alter their entire appearance.
When women wear light makeup it accentuates their good features vs. hiding their bad ones. That’s the difference.
This is what a woman can do to best improve her physical appearance:
1. Exercise daily and eat healthy.
2. (Tied with number one). Have very good hygiene. Just the obvious that you shower, brush your teeth and wear deodorant daily. Also most guys prefer smooth women (shaved legs, armpits). I don’t expect this to be done daily but weekly isn’t too much to ask for.
Of course you can all be woke feminist and grow your hair out to “rebel”. Do what you want on that one. Just don’t be surprised when it turns a lot of guys off. But some don’t care.
3. Light makeup. Just accentuate your best features vs trying to cover up your worst.
4. Fashion and dress. If you don’t do 1 and 2 above then this won’t make any difference to most guys. A woman who is healthy, active and well groomed will always be more attractive then an obese woman who doesn’t exercise but spends thousands on nice clothing.
But having a moderately nice wardrobe doesn’t hurt.
I've never encountered a man who claims that makeup is ugly, so I question the accuracy of your interpretation on that regard.
However, what I can confirm is that men who dislike make up, dislike it for the simple reason that there are a lot of women who go above and beyond with make up. Which results in an alternation of their actual appearance. In other words: many women wear make up in a way that makes them look like a different person. This is a huge red flag for men. So that's why they tend to take the 'extreme' route and say they don't want women to wear make up. Just so they cannot get "cat fished".
Most men have no issues with make up, as long as it is worn for enhancing the real beauty, not trying to make yourself look like someone else.
Lots online that claim it 💀
@Asker I'm sure they refer to women who use excessive make up that makes them look ugly. Not that make up in general to make women ugly. Context is key.
They say, “makeup is ugly” if they mean heavy makeup they should say that
Apparently, your man or the man in question is immature and inexperienced. I am not sure how anyone could be betrayed. After all, she spent time getting beautiful for him. He sounds very self-centered and it is a very weird kind. This guy is a weird kind to me.
My man? Lol, no. It’s not a specific guy. There’s a lot of this kind of guy.
welp you’ve conditioned them to being use to seeing with only makeup so it’s kind of like when you see a man with a beard all the time and then they shave it, they then look weird to you because you’ve only known them with a beard. It’s the same way. Im not saying you should stop wearing makeup, but try not to every single day, try to go without makeup sometimes.
I hardly wear it. And I don't know if the analogy works cuz nobody’s like, “ugh I hate beards they’re ugly, shave your beard!” “Oh you are ugly! You’ve lied to me!!” 💀 some women do make their man shave but if they dislike him shaved they just tell him he’s better with it
It’s not about liking or not liking it’s about what your use to seeing them look like. You know a friend is always clean shaven and then starts wearing mustache or even let’s just say braids. You’ll be like that looks weird on you, I’m not use to seeing you look like that.
That’s not what I’m talking about though
I agree with you. Makeup is art, and those guys want to enjoy the art but hate the artist for making it. Personally, I love bold and heavy makeup to attract and entertain, and also appreciate relaxing time where we wear comfortable clothes and no makeup. The idea of having to commit to always being one or the other seems absurd to me.
My East Asian SO looks like this and she wakes up in the morning.
She used to wear make-up but I told her she looks just as good on the morning. She occasionally wears lipstick, but that's all.
Some women wear to much foundation or just look bad with their make up choices, I like a woman with natural beauty, my wife barely wears makeup and has great skin, but when she does put it on for certain things she looks hot with it.
The reason why some men might get mad is because some women look totally different with the make up. So it a little like false advertising. If you get my point
No, cuz I’m talking about both of those things together not separate. I understand the logic when it’s two different reasons tho I might not agree; but both together is just a lie
That's because we are talking about those who look completely different without makeup. Girls wearing makeup to make themselves look different just doesn't know how to embrace their own physical features and be positive with it.
Its like this. Fruits itself already taste good. But if you are so used to eating fruits with refined sugar in it, the real thing won't taste as good.
I’m fine with someone who says, “I don’t like heavy makeup” but people who say, “I don’t like makeup” in general are often just negative ignorant and hypocritical
Well i do don't like makeup in general for a reason. Again it is for the same reason why i don't like eating fruits with refined sugar in it. Makeup spoils people's eyes into seeing lies all of the time.
If makeup was never invented then that would never be an issue.
Lets not do this. 😅 Sometimes its too drastic and they look completely different. Everyone knows they will look slightly different without makeup but some cake on the makeup a lot which is where I feel most men feel betrayed.
I’m not talking about those people who know that. Most do, I agree. But for people who are against makeup the arguements tend to be both, “she tricked up” while being right next to, “it makes her look ugly” if you were deceived into thinking she was ugly cuz she had makeup on shouldn’t you be happy it’s gone 😭
Depends who is under all of it. There is some really ugly women who can put enough cake on their face to conceal what they really look like, and pull off a hot look, to go to haggishly ugly, that not even a mother could love.
I think too much makeup where a woman looks like a clown is not good. No make up is beautiful on many women but it’s more about how you feel about the person
Once again it is the Barbie Doll image. I suppose it's not fair to blame it on women although it was their actions that perpetuated and escalated the movement. I think it was all driven by competition. If you want to know what is false and what is not, Go skinny dipping. Cold water will shrink your bass bait and wash off makeup.
Uh… cold water doesn’t really wash off makeup well even if it isn’t waterproof lol. Ig you’ve never practiced what you preach 💀
True,, most makeup is grease or cream based, I guess when my wife and I went skinny dipping she did not bother with make. She did not bother with makeup when we went sailing. More like sun block. I was in such a hurry to give her an engagement band that I went at 1:00 an after work. Her face was covered in Noxzema. and her hair was in curlers. I did not care.
Love the woman not the image.
I'd be fine with the real person as pictured without mskeup instead of the 1940's pinup model. It's more authentic and honest that way, and doesn't require the expense and time of putting on a fake face and creating the possibility for this situation to even occur.
Maybe realize the pinup isn’t natural 💀
That is the point I was trying to make. You are coming after me for agreeing with you. No natural person looks like that, and that honestly doesn't do much for me. I'd rather be comfortably honest than have pretense and resentment on either side.
Well you’re coming from the perspective of the post that Is talking about how men will sometimes call women deceptive for wearing makeup while also call it ugly and unnatural
I'm giving my answer to the question. You are not in a position to tell me what my thoughts or intentions are here.
It’s like you’re responding to a dif question tho 💀
How do you figure? You are accusing men of something, I'm answering that at least one man disagrees with that assumption, I don't see what the problem is?
Im not accusing all men. Why are you generalizing? I’m talking about the men who do this. Are you lumping those men in with the ones who don’t? Why? Are the ones who say this stuff exempt just because they’re men? Lol
This is one of the rare questions about men that gets more specific than all men are worthless dogs why do they do this thing? You are correct I should slow down when answering. In the interest of fairnessI think we should both slow down when answering to make sure we adequately understand what we are replying to.
I’m glad you realized
So ate you planning on addressing my original answer instead of policing how I answered it? I'm still waiting for you to realize I did give an answer that for some reason you aren't interested in addressing the substance of.
Why would I? It’s a different question you answered
Alright then I've tried explaining why it isn't but I don't seem to be getting through. I hope you have a good day.
You’re free to believe that
Asker. Women are not just using makeup but filters and angles for IG posts. Most of the time they take these photos, filter them and post by themselves for virtual attention.
Now whose choice was it to do that? You want to be vain then fine. Enjoy the sugar high of virtual attention. But these women made a voluntary decision to post all of this in the first place. Don’t blame men when it was your choice to be so fake just for attention.
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Well, this is why we have this meme right?
I've heard guys complain about overdone makeup and others complain about being deceived by professionally / skillfully applied makeup. I have never seen one say he hates all makeup and then be deceived by a transformer.
You mean why do some of the men that think this also think that... You answered your own question in your update. Because some of these people are hypocritical.
I guess I am in the minority because I like a girl who wears makeup. Although, I don't like it when she wears too much makeup.
I feel like most are this way but they lie
Could be or they don't know what a girl with make up looks like.
Incels 💀
Yeah, there are a lot of those on the internet. They aren't with women and they are losers so they have plenty of time to be on the internet.
It’s like dudes who think round perky H cup breasts are real… too much fantasy. Gotta ground themselves. Makeup is nice but if she overdoes it you can tell. The people becoming completely new people who you couldn’t tell were wearing it are rare and makeup artists that are using wax and tape
I'm no expert on makeup but I do like it when my wife goes to the Mac store and I don't mind helping her with it.
Why are the women who call men ugly the ones that rely on makeup to look presentable
🤷♀️ they put work into themselves and don’t like when others don’t I guess
Maybe they're lying about not liking the make up
That’s kinda what I’m getting at. They’re just liars
I am not like that I love a woman with makeup a lot and I accept when she takes it off
I am okay with women not looking perfect or wearing makeup. However, women who are let's say 5 and with makeup look 8, want a naturally perfect 8 or higher guy and don't wanna date below-looking guys else guys have to compensate for that by earning way more money than her so there's much double standard around it as guys don't wear makeup.
lol I think more often a 4 dude will think he landed a natural 7 that he didn’t deserve and then he gets bitter
well at some point men will see girlfriends without makeup, however, most men are indeed clueless about makeup. It creates an illusion, a guy may not feel attraction anymore after seeing without makeup and then again seeing another girl with makeup and thinking she looks prettier. I will admit I don't know much too, lip color and eyebrows I can tell and I don't like the enhanced lips or very big unnatural eyelashes but rest I can be a bit clueless.
Because those men don't know that all grown women are ugly without makeup, the only women who are pretty without makeup are teenage girls.
Um… let me just go call the FBI 💀
@suzzieq they deleted our comments and kept his up!!
If you have sold yourself as someone you're not, and then revealed yourself as someone else, of course he'll feel betrayed. It's better to be honest from the start.
Well I’m not really talking about men who don’t know lips aren’t purple and eyelashes aren’t an inch long… that’s a whole other issue where they need their heads checked 💀 and the rare chance you can’t tell a woman where’s makeup-that’s pretty rare for a woman to be good enough to look like she’s not wearing makeup while also looking completely different. Usually only professional makeup artists can do that. So I doubt it’s happening at the scale where it makes sense for men to be complaining.
I’m talking about men who say, “makeup is ugly, wash off your face” but also claim to be tricked and deceived. If it was so ugly, shouldn’t you be glad she can wash it off? Oh, or maybe you actually like makeup but are so delusional that you thought women actually exist naturally who look like a woman with full makeup… let alone one who’d wanna date you 💀
I don't believe it's common for a man to tell a woman he hates makeup and then in the next breath tell her he feels deceived when she takes it off. Not saying it doesn't happen, but certainly not common.
What IS common is for men to be turned off by makeup in general today. More specifically, they are turned off by the trend toward fakeness, which means heavy makeup, fake lashes, perfectly groomed eyebrows, or even tattooed ones, puffed up lips, long fake nails, fake boobs, fake hair color, fake eye color, etc.
The reality is that light, natural makeup is what most guys prefer, even if they don't realize it. But it seems many women today go overboard, and it's a big turnoff.
Then they shouldn’t date those women lol.
And not necessarily in the same breath, but separate ones when put togeheat contradict each other (tho I’ve seen it in the same breath) I agree it’s very disengenuis when men claim they hate all makeup; since typically that’s not true. If they do it’s usually about him, not her. But I’m not against disliking heavy makeup, go ahead. People just don’t really care about your opinion. 🤷♀️ there’s lots of heavy makeup I don’t like either; I just don’t tell people because I’m not a dick. I’m not dating her. Get over yourself ykno? It’s not hurting anyone.
But lots of men do say what I said, that’s why I made the post. It’s pretty silly that they’re completely unselfaware
Then dont date someone who wears make up. Problem solved. I dont like a lot off fashion choices but I'm not gonna call people liars because of it. Make up has been around since 6000BCE, it's not a new concept, and it doesn't magically turn you into someone else.
Thats like calling someone who shaves or waxes dishonest. Or someone who styles their hair dishonest.
@suzzieQ seriously! You don’t see a woman with stubble on her legs- “I thought you naturally had no hair you liar!!”
I have two girlfriends and both are attractive and neither wear makeup at all. I don't date makeup face girls. Yuck.
I don’t date man whores… yuck
Thanks for sharing. Nobody asked you or was interested in you.
Ditto 💀
You can be ugly without makeup AND ugly with makeup. They're not mutually exclusive.
Sorry; I know that sounded mean. It wasn't meant to be.
Well you can’t call it deceptive if you also thought it was ugly from the start… if you thought that, you would’ve known she didn’t look like that
But that's the point. We don't know, if you're wearing makeup all the time.
Either its ugly or its not lol. How she looks under the makeup shouldn’t change how you feel about the makeup itself… otherwise its really not about the makeup and you're not the person im talking about. Unless you are and you yourself just dont even understand your thinking
Think about it this way: The more ugly you are to begin with, the more you have to fix, and thus the more makeup you have to use. Which just leaves you looking hideous in the end. So you're right back where you started. 🤷
Not really
Which part do you disagree with?
The logic that makeup is ugly unless it makes her more attractive. I mean, yes. 💀 but I don’t think you’ll admit that in those words even if you just admitted it in different ones
Basically the more you cover the more you're hiding what you actually look like...
No women need to take criticism better the most annoying thing about women is that y’all are insecure as fuck and need constant validation
Calling out your hypocrisy is not fishing out for compliments lol
It’s not hypocritical because women did this shit to yourselves for a man to want or be attracted to all you need to do is be more attractive than a man which 100% of women are
So why do women still wear it? Because you’re insecure and lack confidence in your natural beauty
And why is your that? Because some women are naturally more beautiful than other women
Silver lining to the trans agenda it showed that a ugly ass man can put on the same makeup that women wear and be just as attractive
Seriously you might as well date with mask on because when most guys date we want to get to know you yes that includes what you actually look like
Lol ok 👌
Men are delusional and ambitious.
Ugly attracts ugly
Hypocrisy
Why do you not see men wearing makeup though?
You do, especially in East asia
Why?
Makes them more attractive or edgy (attractive)
Men have been wearing makeup for thousands of years
Right, and I'm Jesus
Huh?
Look at history bro 💀
It's definitely fucking ugly
So you dont feel betrayed when she takes it off
Because they are full of --it.
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