This is very true. I have never dated, but I don't blame the girls for that. I know that there are qualities that women could perhaps like in me, and some not-so-good qualities. For me the worst problem is shyness and blushing close to girls. I need to work more to get rid of it, so that I can talk to girls.
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The solution to that is confidence in your ability and skill
"Nice guys" who expect women to like them just for being "nice" are not really nice guys. They are manipulative clowns who expect payment for their "niceness." A genuine nice guy is nice to you, and to old people, and to the unattractive girl who needs help with her packages, and the guy whose car is stuck in the mud, etc., never expecting anything in return. Women can tell the difference.
this debate, topic will never end, but it pisses me off, I hate how being a pushover, doormat, is a thousand, million times worse if you are a guy
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It's bad if you're anyone, but I totally agree that it's way worse if you're a guy. Guys like that really should figure out how not to be that way. Not just because of how girls may percieve them, but because being a pushover is not healthy.
yeah it's bad if you are anyone, they also say nice-guys are boring, what makes a nice-guy boring and the bad-boy fun, exciting to be around? people say that all the time but they never both to explain it specifically
It's thinking with their dicks and the way that they go about pretending that they aren't that gives them the bad rep - the old man fashion that reeks of hipster doesn't really help either 😎
Girls like bad boys for sex and fun but they know they will not hang around to help feed the babies so they settle and marry a nice guy and live with the boring sex but a guy who will always come home at the end of the day with something for the family to eat.
As a nice guy, I hate that but it is true.
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I disagree. I think those are things "nice guys" make up to make themselves feel better about their bad luck with girls. It's not all about sex.
Of course, he is right. A lot of what makes girls attracted to badasses is based on short-term intense lust. In the same way guys sleeping around prefer dumb, but slutty, girls.
When you look for a long-term partner, there's an attraction set that works differently.
"The problem these days is that people look for someone to sleep with, rather than someone worth waking up to."
OpenClose, no, you can't attach that stigma to every girl who ends up with a jerk. By the way, there's a difference between a bad guy and a jerk. I firmly believe that is all bs that "nice guys" a.k.a. guys who have difficulty with women, tell themselves so that they don't have to face the true reality as to why they can't get a girl.
maybe should out more question asker guenie "nice" people male and female exist. if duecebags exist then would especially nice people not exist and what exactly is difference between a jerk and bad guy
Not all nice guys are boring you know there some out there are adventurerous and assertive but you women often tend to over look that.
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don't judge all women because you have your own personal troubles with females and dating. It is not all of us female's responsibility to correct your generalizations.
I was judging all females I was just saying most of you need to wake up and stop complaing about not finding the right guy because he is out there and you guys are not looking hard enough. And FYI this is not just my experience I know all of good single men out there who feels the same way
Ya know it's funny you say that because I wouldn't be surprised if someone who lacks creativity, depth, and intellect took credit for this post, claiming it's theirs when in reality they're just taking credit for someone else's creativity.
they already did (I am referring to the lack of intellect) only someone who lacks would the word by its self considering how vague it is wich defeats the purpose of language and of there is inable to comprehend simple things like especially nice people get taken advantage of (weather they are passive or not)
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This is very true. I have never dated, but I don't blame the girls for that. I know that there are qualities that women could perhaps like in me, and some not-so-good qualities. For me the worst problem is shyness and blushing close to girls. I need to work more to get rid of it, so that I can talk to girls.
The solution to that is confidence in your ability and skill
"Nice guys" who expect women to like them just for being "nice" are not really nice guys. They are manipulative clowns who expect payment for their "niceness." A genuine nice guy is nice to you, and to old people, and to the unattractive girl who needs help with her packages, and the guy whose car is stuck in the mud, etc., never expecting anything in return. Women can tell the difference.
this debate, topic will never end, but it pisses me off, I hate how being a pushover, doormat, is a thousand, million times worse if you are a guy
It's bad if you're anyone, but I totally agree that it's way worse if you're a guy. Guys like that really should figure out how not to be that way. Not just because of how girls may percieve them, but because being a pushover is not healthy.
yeah it's bad if you are anyone, they also say nice-guys are boring, what makes a nice-guy boring and the bad-boy fun, exciting to be around? people say that all the time but they never both to explain it specifically
girls can be boring and still attract a guy
very true but you compromise you don't have to be yourself all the time
Most of these are age or time related...as guys pick up sexual experience and females continue to have bad experiences..most of this will go away...(:
It's thinking with their dicks and the way that they go about pretending that they aren't that gives them the bad rep - the old man fashion that reeks of hipster doesn't really help either 😎
There are whole books about that subject.
Girls like bad boys for sex and fun but they know they will not hang around to help feed the babies so they settle and marry a nice guy and live with the boring sex but a guy who will always come home at the end of the day with something for the family to eat.
As a nice guy, I hate that but it is true.
I disagree. I think those are things "nice guys" make up to make themselves feel better about their bad luck with girls. It's not all about sex.
Of course, he is right. A lot of what makes girls attracted to badasses is based on short-term intense lust. In the same way guys sleeping around prefer dumb, but slutty, girls.
When you look for a long-term partner, there's an attraction set that works differently.
"The problem these days is that people look for someone to sleep with, rather than someone worth waking up to."
OpenClose, no, you can't attach that stigma to every girl who ends up with a jerk. By the way, there's a difference between a bad guy and a jerk. I firmly believe that is all bs that "nice guys" a.k.a. guys who have difficulty with women, tell themselves so that they don't have to face the true reality as to why they can't get a girl.
maybe should out more question asker guenie "nice" people male and female exist. if duecebags exist then would especially nice people not exist and what exactly is difference between a jerk and bad guy
"maybe should out more question asker guenie "nice" people male and female exist."...what?
i noticed those same guys didn't comment on this question because they can't refute this lol
It take's a rare women with a big heart to only see a guy for his goodness and young women today have heart of the poo :) all good want is goodness
Very wise words indeed! It seems that many women now don't seem to care anymore whether a man is really a good person or not. Just handsome and loud!
You girls have always been picky which you have a right to be, But it just makes it harder for us guys.
women start looking for good guys after they have several kids and been ran over buy bad boys’
Saw this is an old take. Are you still thinking about this?
Completely agree
thanks :)
Not all nice guys are boring you know there some out there are adventurerous and assertive but you women often tend to over look that.
don't judge all women because you have your own personal troubles with females and dating. It is not all of us female's responsibility to correct your generalizations.
I was judging all females I was just saying most of you need to wake up and stop complaing about not finding the right guy because he is out there and you guys are not looking hard enough. And FYI this is not just my experience I know all of good single men out there who feels the same way
This needs to be published.
Ya know it's funny you say that because I wouldn't be surprised if someone who lacks creativity, depth, and intellect took credit for this post, claiming it's theirs when in reality they're just taking credit for someone else's creativity.
they already did (I am referring to the lack of intellect) only someone who lacks would the word by its self considering how vague it is wich defeats the purpose of language and of there is inable to comprehend simple things like especially nice people get taken advantage of (weather they are passive or not)
Preach it sister!
Very very good
lol! oh, stop! ;P
Be wary of the /r/niceguys kind of guy.