Yes! My friend who is not always the nicest guy, but really smart claims: the top 10% of men (great physical shape, financially secure, charismatic...) date multiple women in a given lifetime or just time (though I personally frown on cheating sometimes I wish I was born a narcassist). The bottom 10% of men are not dating at all. For the remaining 80% in the middle, I think it depends on timing, style, mood(s), poise, chatability, wit...). I hate to agree with what my friend says, but he's right. The only way any of us will step into a dating world beyond our comfort zone which basically limits us to high school associates, mutual friends and the girl who works at the gas station around the corner, is to become one of the top 10%, or closer to that. This is done with research about psychology, work, saving money, working out, eating right, keeping the vibe (I like to call it), cultivating art forms & friendships. A healthy male who grinds and who knows how to talk to women and make them laugh, not just like some duche, is a succesful dater. I'm not implying some Hollywood cookie cutter man. Different things work for different people. They want us to talk to them. I'm shy like you (guessing), but make it something trivial to test the vibe. One day at college I asked a girl if she hated the school? She said yes, now we're emailing, but I'm too hung up on my ex sux 4 me, but if you're still young believe in thyself. Godspeed.
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611 opinions shared on Flirting topic. Stop rationalizing the approach and just do it. You have NO choice.
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Sorry I like to think instead of blindly do things.
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yah DO IT like moloch.. spend all your time building up points on this board instead of actually doing it!
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HAHAH such a load of crap. if you lived those words you wouldn't spend all your time on your computer jacking off pretending your something your not.. what a f***ing loser and fraud XD
+1 yI don't think so. I mean if you go anywhere such as social events, bars, clubs, etc You're bound to talk to a girl. Whether you instigate it or not. But the part that does rely solely on you is how you control the situation. If your not confident in what you're saying and interacting the girl most likely won't get a feel for you. Group outings are always the best when your shy. If you friend invites you to hang out with so and so take the opportunity and just act like you normally would with your buds. Which I'm assuming is something worry free and fun. Hopefully
I'm a very shy person as well. And I had just recently found a guy I was truly attracted to. I never approached a guy or even made an attempt to say hi to any guys before him. I'm the very conservative, no one knows I exist type lol I didn't want to be like that and I just went in with the intention of befriending him. Long story short I got rejected but I saw it as a learning experience. Thanks to him I gained some confidence. I don't like to think of rejection as a negative thing, but a positive. It's truly a learning experience when you think about it. :)00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNot 100%, but being proactive, whether you're male or female, really increases the odds of finding a relationship. You have to go places where there are likely to be other people and talk to them ... even girls don't get stone-cold approached without eye contact or conversation as much as guys say. I've known several girls who were quite pretty, but their weird, standoffish behavior made guys avoid them (for fear that she'd be a bitch or that she had a boyfriend already or was super weird, I suppose).
If you talk to people, make a lot of eye contact, go where there are lots of people to engage with ... chances are a brazen girl will make some moves. But just sitting int he corner wont' cut it, male OR female.12 Reply- +1 y
way to be specific there saying go places. Essentially only places I go are malls once ever 2 or 3 weeks, school, and I go out to clubs maybe every other weekend lol. I meet girls there lol just not girls that become a relationship lol.
Opinion Owner+1 ySome other places include joining a club, co-ed rec team, book club-- whatever floats your boat. Clubs aren't really great for conversation, a low key neighborhood bar might be more conductive to making girlfriend type advances.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I want to be the one to make that first move. I prefer being able to go after who I am interested in and leave the door open for them rather than sit back and wait for someone to decide they like me enough to do something about it.
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load of bs.
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why is it a load of BS?
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cause I guarantee you it is
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+1 ythe answer is yes. f*** these people, they don't know anything. This doesn't just apply to getting a date either, you always have to be proactive about getting what you want whether it's a good job, possessions or a girl(especially with this one). You can be good looking, rich etc but if you don't make any effort to go for a girl and expect her to go for you you're screwed. The guys that sit around passively will be alone and jack off for the rest of their life. Even if a girl gave you a signal and all, you would still have to be the one to take over because she would just start assuming you don't like her that much. If anyone here says anything different they are a moron.
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True I guess just unfortunate your name is Dubstep :P
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oh, since its the most popular new music out there right?
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you know what else is popular Rihanna and Justin Bieber. Might be popular but for my money it's the worst EDM genre. :P
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well so is Tool, Metallica, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Jakes, Gunston... Any idiot that generalizes music value on its genre would ask a question as stupid as you are now.. "are guys gonna be alone if they don't try".. LOL OK f*** face, insult a person giving you good advice and then stick yoru tongue out like its ok.. what a f***ing moron
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insult you lol I meant was I really don't like dubstep. Most other EDM genres I like including DNB which I'm guessing you like too just not dubstep lol. You don't have to get all super offended lol.
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no its that you are a social moron. your response would get you socked in the face . who gives a f*** if you don't like dubstep, you are destined to be single with social skills like that, good luck!
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no I'm not I said that was a good answer in the first place so that you would actually bother to argue with me about dubstep in the first place instead of me saying your answer was garbage right away already making you hate me and not want to debate with me lol. That is social intelligence right there Get mad bro :P
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oh right, the guy that's wondering if passive wimps will be single knows abotu social intelligence. Pretty slow there aren't you? "True I guess just unfortunate your name is Dubstep :P" was your response, and saying true is not saying its a good answer, nor does it show you digested 1/100th of what I was saying. instead you respond saying you dislike one of my favorite genres that I display on my name and then think you're not a social moron... amazing really.
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If this were happening in real life, the only person either of you would be able to score with is each other. (Which is sad, because the answer was pretty spot on)
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mildlyoriginal, trying to say you're better than both of us is another sign of patheticness. you and most guys on here are passive aggressive little bitches. you say sh*t like that and probably walk around with the opposite persona in real life. f*** you virgin
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lol, putting david duchovney on your profile and thinking your some pimp oh my god .. is everyone here retarded?
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Lol I'm sure that ultra aggressive nature just has all the women tripping over their feet to get at you. If somebody put up batman as their profile would you accuse them of thinking they are a super rich crime fighter? I'm not saying I'm better than you, it just comes off that way when you act like a psychopath on an internet forum.
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haha MildlyOriginal I'll agree with you that we are acting like dumbasses. Also you are a dumbass for saying Mildly is acting like some pimp or something when your original answer was just that you acting like a pimp and like you are better than every other passive bitch guy. Typical Dubstep noob. Just because you put Dubstep in your name doesn't mean anything lol.
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ok virgins, keep believing you're something.. makes the girls so easy for real men.
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You argue like a 16 year old teenager boy it's hilarious. Just getting angry then throwing around insults.
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oh hey bro by the way I don't know if you follow DJ mag at all but Dubstep is still lagging behind and the best they could do is get Skrillex in at number 10 lol. Skrillex will never exceed Armin :P
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hhaha omg.. you like armin? no wonder you're extremely gay, it all makes perfect sense now! Skrillex by the way, is garbage.. amazing you associate him with the name dubstep. Lookup actual dubstep you gay little bitch.
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haha I know real trance too just saying. and I have heard other dubstep too it's all garbage just less garbage than Skrillex. You really underestimate me bro I've been listening to EDM music since like early 200's.
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nah, admitting you like armin is admitting you are a f**. same goes for most pop trance.. youve shown your colors now there's no hiding them loser
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and, someone that listens to garbage for 12 years and likes it cannot really judge anything underground, because clearly youve never heard the good sh*t or been to a drug infested party playing heavyweights
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I don't like Armin's productions anymore they've gotten crappy I just like some of the stuff he plays in his ASOT episodes. If you are talking about trance music then I guarantee you I've heard more sh*t than you have lol.
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trying to make up excuses doesn't change anything.. you like gay music, end of story. Most trance is gay and pop sh*t, is cheesy and emo and is for girls and f**s..
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haha great way to end that dude. have fun with all your bro's at music events. How on earth can you say trance is more emo than dubstep music? Everyone that listens to dubstep all wears black at music events and skrillex even used to be in an emo band and got all his emo fans into his dubstep.
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damn the stupidity in you is amazing.. scroll down a little and I already was laughing at you that you consider skrillex to be dubstep. he's a pop sell out, just like all the f**s you listen to.. And trying to argue that trance is less gay than dubstep.. what a f***ing joke. you really do need help, in every aspect!
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI would like to say no... for the sake of having hope... but I don't think so. honestly, people say you meet someone and it just "happens." I sort of disagree. I think that both parties have to put some effort forth. If you never ever approach a female chances are you aren't trying and they won't know you're interested... however, same for females, if they don't put in some effort then a male won't really approach them... at least maybe not as frequently as we'd like to see. I think it is impossible to find someone without at least putting some effort forth.
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I can approach people but I never know how to go from just making conversation to actually getting a number or getting a date out of it.
Opinion Owner+1 yI think you should just keep trying and keep trying :)
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yNo, not at all. My now fiancee ended up approaching me first in our relationship, and for those guys who are saying you have to be extremely good looking, it's not true at all. I consider myself average in the looks department (I've always been told I have an awesome personality, though, but of course she wouldn't have known that ahead of time). She's gorgeous, smart, funny, loving...any guy would want her, and she's never had any problems with attracting guys. She told me that she got this feeling about me when she saw me and just had to take the initiative and that she has never regretted doing that.
The thing is, I think you have to *look* approachable. Even if you're not the best looking guy, you have to appear like you're fun, sociable, and confident, and you have to exude a presence that would make the girl comfortable in approaching you. If you look like you're pissed off or unfriendly, that's not going to work in your favor.21 Reply- +1 y
all the guys that say you have to be extremely good looking are just indirectly putting themselves down as being bad looking.. its f***ing gay indirect pity partying
Pretty much. Women do dumb things like 'cluster' together making it so only the arrogant, or 'douchebags' will be willing to approach them. They also very rarely approach guys, yet somehow manage to complain they only attract douchebags and all men are bad...
If you go out to public places every free second when you are not sleeping, you will drastically increase your odds but other than that, dating sites maybe...40 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNot necessarily.
I've approached men before. But I will say this, I'm the only woman I know personally that does.
I don't think men should always have to make the first move. Women should take as many risks as men - I bet we'd understand each other better :-)46 Reply- +1 y
Yeah and I bet those guys were really hot looking, rich or both right? Because god forbid a plain looking guy walks your way.
Opinion Owner+1 yHaha!
I've only dated one man that was GORGEOUS, the rest were just cute and made even cuter by their personalities.
And I've NEVER dated a rich man, haha!- +1 y
I don't care if women are shallow. Maybe then ugly douches would stop getting the hot chicks. I feel my attractiveness should be able to help me out but it doesn't.
Opinion Owner+1 yI look for good personalilities. If that comes in a mildly attractive or gorgeous package, it does.
I tend to fall for guys that I find only mildly attractive at first, then their personality makes them even cuter and sexier to me. They'll physically look better to me.
I don't like gorgeous a*sholes.
But of course, some gorgeous men have good personalities too.
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ok then what are the mindsets of all the girls I see who are attractive and with such douchey looking guys?
Opinion Owner+1 yI can't speak for other women, only myself.
Perhaps the guys treat them well. People tend to like that.
Not really
I was approached by my Ex, at first I was like "Wtf she must be desperate to approach me!" but after getting to know her she just thought I was really attractive, and turned out to be one of the brightest girls I've dated
So no, but it is very likely!00 Reply
+1 yUnless staggeringly good looking and exuding warmth, yes, until you're older.
Women in their 20's get hit on so much they do not need to hit on men. I suspect they prefer not to instinctively, but that's a different topic.30 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yPretty much, unless your gorgeous, no girl will approach you. Even if you do get out of your comfort zone, majority will still reject you, or every time in my case. Not that I do anything wrong, I just get written off all the time with out given the chance of saying a word. I'm not saying you will be forever alone, but some of us will be forever alone.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNo. It's definitely possible to find a girlfriend without going out of your way to hit on strangers.
That being said, it's a lot easier to find a girlfriend if you're a friendly person and maintain an active social life - the vast majority of relationships that I've seen form have been between people who met via mutual friends.00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI don't think so. Although in my experience a guydoesn't respong well when a girl approaches them. So I don't approach much at all now. If you are shy or nervous you may be giving off the wrong body language and a girl probably won't approach you. A lot of girls don't really like to approach guys for the same reaosn I said before I think. Even if they like the look.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yFor the most part, yes.
It's not a certainty, but they are drastically changing the odds of ever finding someone, since girls so rarely approach guys.
So yea, for the most part, for the sake of rounding down the probabilities, you might as well call it a destiny approved certainty.00 ReplyI approached my current boyfriend at a party after eying him in German class every Saturday. I went up to him to chat him up. Only guy I ever approached.
20 ReplyThere are other ways to meet people (school/uni, introduced by friends, ...), hitting on some strangers isn't the one and only key to a relationship.
Although if you're against even talking in public to a girl that might be a problem ...00 ReplyUm personally I prefer the guy to approach me but there are some girls out there who approach guys too :)
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If I was living the same city as you, I would approach you for sure :)
No, but as a statistics major you should be the one to know that the more you approach, the more likely you are to get dates ;)
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hmmm I would need to see some data and interpret it and find out if it is a significant difference in number of dates lol.
602 opinions shared on Flirting topic. No but probably the ones they get are probably the ugly, weirdo, no body wants, psycho, desperate ones.
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+1 yAll my relationships ( including my ex wife) were started with them approaching.
I'm tall and good looking or I'd be a virgin lol. I never approach.00 Reply
+1 yI don't think so. There are some girls who approach, just not very many.
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Yeah but those guys who get approached are usually the hot rich ones.
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Okay...Whatever floats your pessimistic boat.
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bro I don't think most common girls are gonna put a lot of emphasis on money and as for looks it's simply something they use since they have no other knowledge of someone before meeting them.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yit does not matter what gender you are. if you are not being asked out and you don't ask people out than you are going to be single.
Note: although girls are starting to ask guys out it's still the norm for guys to ask girls out.00 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYes, both men & women have to ask. You can't just sit & wait for something to happen,. Go get it.
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+1 yvery likely, since almost all girls are old-fashioned and feel it is the guys job to initiate, approach, ask out, but it can happen, it's possible, but unlikely since it is too rare so don't count on it
00 Reply on average yes as currently the norm is the guy asks out the girl
10 ReplyI mean, I've made friends that are females by just doing activities and knowing them through that lol no approach required
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+1 yI'm gonna keep saying it women can look like crap and get dates, guys have to be tall, built, have a good paying job etc just to have a women look at them.
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+1 yI believe that man has to be the "hunter" so to make the first step. If the guy is not keen on approaching a girl he doesn't have a lot of possibilities to do something. To concluse, he is not destined to be single but it is difficult to have a girl.
21 Replynot at all men are only designed to make mistakes an learn from them..some don't-_-
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+1 yUnless you're super hot ...
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I'm not ugly lol.
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I know I'm ugly.
That's an absurd generalisation to make.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yyep.
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you had to go anonymous just to say "yep"? lol.
Opinion Owner+1 yyep.
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