
Is there a good argument on why you shouldn’t be vegetarian?


How The Lack of Animal Protein Affects Your Brain and Overall Health
The brain is composed of mostly water and fatty acids. It relies on a steady stream of glucose for energy, burning through a large amount of this simple sugar each day.
The brain is a finicky eater, liking mainly glucose or nothing. It can sometimes lean on short fat compounds though when glucose supplies dwindle for any reason.
There’s relatively little protein within the brain, but none of this means that proteins aren’t important to how your gray matter functions.
In fact, the neurons in the brain communicate with each other through proteins. Amino acid neurotransmitters help the brain complete its job in keeping the body working properly and smoothly.
This means brain health and the rest of the body’s functions become greatly affected when there’s protein deficiency. Here are the different effects of lack of protein on the brain and one’s health:
Protein is a vital part of brain growth during early development.
Neurons may be mostly fat and fueled by glucose, but they use proteins to communicate with one another and control what happens throughout the body.
The enzymes, neurotransmitters, and hormones that carry signals and help accomplish the tasks the brain dictates are made from protein.
According to a study, protein is an important nutrient for fetal and postnatal brain development of babies. Malnutrition of protein results in smaller brains with fewer neurons, lesser RNA and DNA content, and fewer neurotransmitter concentrations.
2. Affects the Mood, Appetite, and Energy Levels
What you eat does affect the brain, alter mood, and change emotions. Protein deficiencies slow down development and lower cognitive function.
A lack of proteins depletes the chemicals in the brain that control mood, appetite, and energy levels. Protein deficiencies have also been linked to depression, anxiety, ADHD, epilepsy, and a certain type of autism.
A dense meal of carbohydrates can leave you feeling sluggish and tired as it increases the levels of tryptophan in the brain.
The amino acid tryptophan encourages the production of serotonin, a calming neurotransmitter associated with appetite, blood pressure, learning, and sleep patterns.
On the other hand, a protein-rich meal can leave you feeling alert and energetic as levels of the amino acid tyrosine rise. Tyrosine promotes the creation of norepinephrine and dopamine, two neurotransmitters that boost activity, alertness, and energy.
Eating too much protein, though, can lead to an imbalance which causes other problems in the body. Your brain may stay alert with protein, but it also needs carbohydrates for energy.
According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), the RDA (recommended daily intake) for adult men and women is 0.8 grams of protein for every 2 pounds of body weight.
Also, consuming too much alcohol, processed sugar, and caffeine may affect the activities of neurotransmitters.
Do you want more or can you say uncle
Uncle. I'm not vegetarian, but since I can't get much of my favourite meat... I just can't 💁♀️
@LovingLoverReturned I bet your brain is on overload right now. If you read all that.
Just think I hand typed all that from a book I have.
No copy and paste there
There are very good arguments for it, against it. But I am not going to argue with anyone. Its a choice for me to make for me. Not a choice for me to make for you, or you to make for me.
I have even seen people use religion to promote their ideas. Thats not wise.
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1 Timothy 4:1-5
4 However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron. 3 They forbid marriage and command people to abstain from foods that God created to be partaken of with Thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth. 4 For every creation of God is fine, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with Thanksgiving, 5 for it is sanctified through God’s word and prayer over it.
Romans 14:3
3 Let the one eating not look down on the one not eating, and let the one not eating not judge the one eating, for God has welcomed him.
Genesis 9:3
3 Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. Just as I gave you the green vegetation, I give them all to you.
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I used to be a vegetarian. I am more Keto now. Its my choice.
Plenty of reasons:
-B12
-Iron (It's hard to absorb iron from plant sources only. Animal sources are more efficient).
-A lot of people's bodies aren't made to only eat plants. We're omnivores by nature.
Some people can eat a plant only diet but it's not sustainable for many people. People can go vegetarian or vegan if they want to but it's not something that should be forced on anyone. I have thought about going vegan more than once (not just vegetarian) but I'm concerned about my health. Plus, I really like fish and I have no moral dilemma over eating eggs. I dislike the way eggs are produced (like locking up hens in tiny cages) but I generally don't have a problem with eating eggs.
I’m a vegetarian and the only argument I could appreciate against it, is that there are many unhealthy veggies out there who rely on vegetarian microwave meals etc.
Please note: if you are vegetarian or vegan, you have to work harder to get adequate nutrition in your body.
A lot of people are too lazy to follow a recipe, to cook a healthy meal, so they get packaged food instead. Which does a huge injustice to their body, and causes them to gain weight.
The whole idea of being vegetarian is embracing vegetables. It’s scary how many of us don’t do that.
I have been eating vegan for 9 years, and I never planned any diet.
I just ate a variety of things, and plenty of fruit, and never had a problem.
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Yes at a global level the world cannot support a vegetarian diet.
looking at the grain issue with Ukraine, just shows how fragile food from crops is.
Its great if you live in a country than can provide a diversity of vegetarian foods, however what about countries that struggle.
While animal diseases such as swine flu, foot and mouth can impact availability of meat products, it’s not really been a huge problem.
Whereas two bad summers can wipe out a farm and crops.
Prices can become hugely volatile for certain crops.
you can raise animals on land you cannot grow edible crops.
A global push for vegetarian diet could push areas of the globe into famine situations.
While I kind of agree with your argument, I think there is a fundamental flaw in your argumentation.
Animals we eat also eat crops, a bad summer wipes out their main food source too, this shows growing crops is absolutely fundamental, doesn't matter if we feed ourselves or our food with it.
We can raise animals on land that wouldn't be suitable for crops but either way, there has to be plantages, for crops. If those get damaged, meat prices rise too.
Not true. You might have a bad silage or hay year but you can always buy some if your supply isn't good. The reality is we're already over producing on crops for human consumption and we discard millions of tonnes simply because carrots are bent or potatoes are the wrong size. Freeing up land used for animal fees isn't going to feed the world
@kurokohai Most of the animals that I eat are free range and don't require much more than a grassy field, or a river.
Because I'd slowly get weak and irritable without protein, and I'm not going to live on nuts like a squirrel. That, and the human body was literally designed for it and all, right down to our canine teeth...
Granted if they ever perfect that fake lab-grown meat to the point it's not disgusting and more harmful to the environment than real meat, I don't mind permanently switching over. But until then, no, I'm not going to be a weak hippie who's constantly hungry and tired all the time and then die of cancer like Steve Jobs did.
Doja Cat (of all people) said it best: "I like animals. But I also find them to be delicious."
The only actual reason is that our metabolism is made to need nutrients from both meat and veggies. Forcing the body to go without any of those nutrients' sides is bad.
However, being vegetarian allows you to get some, if not all, the missing nutrients from other sources, so it is not that problematic.
Lions don't pollute the environment and they only eat meat. Also, lions are kings.

Yep, there are many. That said, I won't explain them to you being that vegetarians are often deficient in them which leads to impaired brain function and psychiatric disorders among many other health issues. Thus I doubt you would understand, and you'd likely say some crazy shit. I know it's part of your sickness...
It’s difficult to do properly. That’s the only good argument, because it can be done properly, and when it is, it is the superior diet both ethically and in terms of long term health, particularly cardiovascular health. Over reliance on dairy ruins these benefits though, so a healthy vegetarian doesn’t need to be vegan, but should not rely on diary as a centerpiece for most meals
There is none as far as I know. All can be debunked.
I don't think any of the arguments they make weights up to the cost off those 200 million lives we end everyday. Not counting the male calfs and male chicks that get murdered just for being born in the dairy or egg industry because they are seen as worthless.
How do you debunk the argument of "because I want to" ?
Yeah, we're omnivores... these diet fads are retarded. That and the plant only people seem to be a bit on the aggressive side or super sick after a while of doing it. You don't see the meat only people doing protests and bullshit. Something is up with that.
I mean if someone’s life is their own then does your validation of their argument make it any less good? My argument is people eat what they want because they like it. I can’t see a valid argument to tell people why they shouldn’t be happy. Not that I have anything against vegetables or meat. Just that we have to explain ourselves all the time and somethings don’t need explanation or validation to be a valid point of view.
Nope
The only legit one would be "to save the animals". Yet, I see lots of vegetarians then wearing wool, and leather coats, whether it's fake or not. If you were all about the animals you wouldn't wear real OR FAKE leather wool, etc..
well t's true
@Shamalien If you wear fake or real leather, you are still supporting animal slaughter. POINT BLANK
No, I’m not, point blank. I’m wearing a jacket, and my wearing of it didn’t demand a slaughter take place. If I bought it used, had it handed down, found it, or it’s fake, I did not contribute to animal suffering by wearing it. I don't know if you are capable of understanding the underlying logic here
@Shamalien yes you are, point blank
@Shamalien Yes, it is
Dude, you're not going to win this
You should not go down the vegetarian route if you do not like eating vegetables. You should not be a vegetarian if you are allergic to vegetables, have vegetable sensitivity, or digestion issues from vegetables.
There are valid arguments for and against it. Limiting meat consumption has health benefits but consuming some meat also has health benefits. In the end it is, and should be, a personal choice.
I do not buy the "ethical" arguments for vegetarianism for a second. We humans are no different than any other carnivorous or omnivorous animals in this respect.
Evolution. The fact that your body is designed to consume meat. The fact that certain vitamins like B-12 are found almost exclusively in meat. The fact that it's fucking delicious. The fact that I feel much better when I eat it.
Hmmm. . . I guess there's MORE than one good argument for it.
You know why plants don't have b12 anymore? Because we are too clean. And the animals just get it from grazing and we get it because we eat them.
All the other stuff you can also find in plants but you have to watch what you eat more.
I'm not judging you but I just want to clear up the misinformation.
@NobodyXox Nothing in there is misinformation. There are PLENTY of fine reasons to eat meat. If you don't want to, that's fine too.
@NobodyXox I never said you couldn't, doll. I said that B-12 is found almost exclusively in meat WHICH IT IS. You CAN get it other places, but so what? If you want to be a vegetarian I personally give zero shits. You do you. All I'm saying is that there are PLENTY of fine reasons to eat meat. Do you have some sort of problem with that?
Nope. Murdering life to fill your fat bellies because of gluttony. Ruining this incredible, beautiful planet for Greed. Yuck ! Weak minded. Can't wait to here 1 good reason for ending lives. Or farming them just for that... People just care that it tastes good. She's will be sheep's


Yes. No words are needed.
Well OK, I argue there are health benefits to eating meat. So long the diet is balanced of course.
Because I don't wanna be.
We need meat. Most vegetarians look like quite frail and 30 years older than they actually are and a good fart will knock them over!!
im right there with you, BUT google Doyal wolfgang Von Frankenstein. dude is in his late 50's and has been vegi/vegan since 17
This vegan trains 7 days a week.
@Guy__ Your point? If I told you most guys would have their dick and balls fall off if they kissed a girl, would you still wanna do it? Besides, vegan stuff tastes AWFUL!! NO flavour AT ALL!!
@Guy__ They're both psycho! There's not a damn thing wrong with meat.
@Guy__ It ain't gonna kill ya!
@Guy__ Why not? They're nice!! Something to play with!
Is there a good argument for me having to explain my dietary choices to anyone? That’s what I thought, the answer is NO.
@JustiReno soy*
@JustiReno it isn’t my place to tell you what you can or can’t eat.
@LovingLoverReturned noo I mean goy as in goyim …
@JustiReno so you are a canibal. You are eating gentilles. At least you aren't another anti-semetitc.
@LovingLoverReturned damn right I eat for my tribe
Because you like meat? I don’t want to argue that you shouldn’t be vegetarian. You can be as vegetarian as you like. It will not bother me. —but I’ll be eating meat.
I dislike veggies and don't want to be annoying. But let me guess you're going to try and convince me that I've just been eating the wrong veggies, blah, blah, blah.
I have allergies to several foodstuffs that would be critical to have a healthy diet being a full vegetarian. Hopefully lab grown meat will hit sooner rather than later. They're still in trials.
That website shows videos disagreeing with almost that science has quorum on. Hence it doesn't look very reliable to me.
@es20490446e that's a pretty elaborate way just to say... You don't agree with the video. But did you even watch the video? What do you have to say it does not agree with science?
The video starts by saying that protein is the source of energy.
But the source of energy is monosaccharides. Which are turned either into adenosine triphosphate, for fast muscular responses, or glucogen, for slow muscular responses.
Monosaccharides are either taken directly, for example from fruit, or break from polysaccharides, for example from carbohydrates.
If the body doesn't have those available it is taken from its own fat, and only in extreme cases from its own tissue.
I know that because I'm a certified personal trainer, and that is part of our training to know.
Since what the interlocutor starts by demonstrating he is clueless about what he is talking about, I decided not to continue listening to more shit.
@es20490446e cool feel free to leave your own answer then. Not trying to change mine. But I see what you're talking about
I was vegan for around 4 years and decided that if I have to take supplements, is not really that healthy.
Yes I'm a sheep farmer and it would be hypocritical of me to be a vegetarian
That's a pretty cool job. If I do say so myself. Do you also get wool from your sheep or just meat? Young sheep ate called lamb, right? .. maybe I'm asking too much.
Do you think they are cute though?
You get both wool and meat but you mostly raise them for meat
I've never tried to dissuade vegetarian friends, that is their choice, I've lived and worked with them I have my diet they have theirs. I've always cooked so preparing my own meals has never been a problem.
For me it is one word. Bacon.
Yes that is not a good argument but its all I've got.
I had to start eating meat again because the lack of protein literally almost killed me 😀
I have a little list for blood myself but @Lyndsielee666 did you eat greens, beans, and sweet potatoes?
I don't know if you maybe want tips. But you can put everything you eat in a app the first few weeks to see what you are putting in your body. It tells you how many calories you are getting, how much protein and it also checks for you how much you need.
If you see that you get everything you can stop putting it in a app.
And I usually get my blood checked once a year just to be sure.
But I hope you feel better now.
How long have you been vegetarian?
@NobodyXox I can’t use any app that shows calories because I’m recovering from an eating disorder unfortunately. I was vegetarian for a good five years before that
Maybe videos like this one?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/hJNF2_dCWkg There's actually a book, written by diet investigators of a well know university, that actually explains why this video is not true. It's called "The China Study".
High quality proteins are closer to the amino acids our bodies have, but they take more effort for our bodies to process.
Primates, specially hominids, rarely eat meat in nature. Yet we insist that's the only way to get quality protein.
2/3 of people die either of heart diseases, or cancer. Which are highly correlated with what you eat.
No surprise that the places in the Earth where people live the longer rarely consume animal products.
Love the channel, just watched this vid a second time, I do think that everyone has a bias in this area. The man is clearly not a vegan or vegetarian. A wise vegan knows how to load their meals with protein. The diet gets a bad rap from people who don’t know how to do it. I can make a 60 gram protein pasta dish and the only non whole food ingredient is nutritional yeast. If people wanna call that a supplement, then yah it’s hard to go vegan without it assuming you live in a city, but natural water sources contain it and that’s how herbivores get it.
You have an omnivores digestive system; it's not designed to run exclusively long-term on vegetation, anymore than it's designed to run exclusively long-term on meat.
I hate tofu and I don´t feel full unless I eat vegetables with a lot of cheese.
Because meat is required for proper muscle and brain development. Being vegetarian is doing more harm to your body than good. it actually increases your chances of stroke by 20%. No thank you, I'll stick to a moderate meat and vegetable diet.
Yes.
Don't steal animals food. They've got to eat veg, they can't eat meat.
Hmmm not enough crops in the world the balance would be destroyed
For people who disliked the comment i am sorry but it's the nature's way to maintain balance there is both is required
What type of animal would I be and age? As an omnivore? A fox? Bearcub (berries and fish)? Chimp? badger? Chipmunk 🐿?
What's the relation to this qiestion
There's none. Now can you tell me?
You would be a puppy lol like 2yr old
I know a vegetarian who ate meat because his health was going down because of being vegetarian. For me that's enough.
Because I'm a member of PETA. People eating tasty animals!
Honestly I like meat in moderation so no I probably wouldn’t do that
Because 0.01% of the meat on earth is still farmed sustainably and ethically.
Its called vitamin B12 but you can just buy supplements.
That’s a question which would be better answered by a nutritionist than an Internet forum.
I don't want to be miserable, because I'm not getting all the chemicals I need to function properly. And I like meat.
It's less expensive. We have a freezer full of venison that cost a weekend camping trip and a hunting license.
Im not interested I need good high-quality protein power. Of course I love vegetables but I also love my meat too I need my protein
It tastes good lol. I don't know that’s the only good argument tbh or u have some sort of medical conditions where u can’t eat a lot of plant products.
It does? News to me!! I've been eating vegan Rice Krispies and it's the blandest thing I've ever eaten since I stopped eating paper in the 3rd grade!! Even if I put 3 heaping spoons of sugar on it, I STILL can't taste it!!
Look at Dr. Ken Berry on YouTube on why we're not made for vegetables.
i think it represents a mental disorder to be that compassionate to animals, they are food. i don't want to deal with a girl that sensitive and whiney
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Do I also have a mental disorder? I eat meat but I don't want to kill the meat.
@LovingLoverReturned acute compassion disorder, play violent video games and call me in the morning
Hahah. #?
Because meat taste good. That's all my argument needs. I have had vegetarian and vegan stuff that was good. But meat is irreplaceable.
I have been taught that you should have a well-balanced diet. Two times more vegetables and fruit then protein. Majority of men love more protein.
I don’t, but I do have a few for why we don’t have to be.
Scientific argument: We’re omnivores. Plain and simple. We’re built to eat both vegetables and meat. No need to deny that any more than other animals build to eat meat. It’s part of life.
Religious argument: Jesus was not a vegan. He at the very least ate fish. And he cared/cares for every single living being.
@JustiReno If you’re not a Christian the religious argument should be ignored. That’s why I put two arguments.
Because someone like me will violently force-feed you literal grass for being a self-righteous POS.
One good argument is that unfortunately you're likely to have trouble with anemia
I could never go with out meat.. it's the staple of my diet.. good clean protein.. I would die being a vegan just eating tree bark and lawn clippings
I mean why in earth would you deprive yourself of meat? I just don’t understand peoples thinking.
Meat is the most accessible protien and also we evolved to like meat.
In what world is cutting out an entire food group healthy?
It's harder but otherwise it's not a bad choice. You can healthy with it or without it.
We are omnivores. Also vitamin B12 is only available via meats.
Our ancestors would get their B12 supply in the form of bacteria on root vegetables/tubers pulled from the ground, by drinking water from natural sources, as well as from any meat they happened to consume (since those animals also ingested bacteria from soil and water).
The bacteria used to sit on top of plants but we wash it off. Animals don't, that's how they ingest it if it doesn't happens artificially.
https://thepeskyvegan.com/blog/vitamin-b12/
How about an unbiased source? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
bbarrx.com/.../b12-meat-is-not-the-answer
This is a company that makes supplements. It's made by bacteria and is found in soil, untreated water and artificially.
And nutritional yeast a vegan item that contains b12 naturally.
aminomantra.co.nz/blogs/news/vegan-sources-of-b12
This is a company that is about eating natural products.
The farners that's be out of a job ditto slaughterhouse workers and butchers
I'd be pluck for cannibalism before vegetarian/veganism
Vegetarians will still eat eggs, dairy, and fish; vegans won't even consume those
Is there a good reason why other omnivore animals be vegetarian? Why aren't bears?
Meat is healthy especially for men. So yes. Thats a good enough argument.
One argument is that you can only consume so much liquid protein LMFAO 😉😍😍😁😉
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