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Once I matured I learned to lose expectations & that made things MUCH better. I also started to view rejection as a good thing because they're essentially weeding themselves out & saving me time because she is either playing games or is being honest; either way I have no tolerance for games & no wish to trap a bird against it's will. I've always wondered what type of person enjoys seeing a flower wilt like that:/ Most definitely not the type of man I want to become.
This is so accurate. Thank you!
I wish all the anons/incels who fixate on height and wallet size would read this.
I should note another thing Women keep in mind is the company of women he surrounds himself with. If his mom/sister/ female friends are totally different from her, females will tend to look for acceptance elsewhere.
Women do want to get along with his friends and family and take these social cues into consideration as well.
When they and I were younger than 30, women rejected me because I was not an ‘exciting’ sociopathic bad boy.
After females turned 30, I was seen as the safe beta bucks.
By that time, after nearly 20 years of being rejected in favour of shitbags, I was too bitter and resentful to be interested in women.
It is not possible to observe woman after woman making self-destructive choices in male company without forming an unflattering opinion of the female cognitive process.
Basically nearly all women are in the abundance mindset, they reject men for the most flimsy reason because they know another choice is around the corner. Unless and until you have very good redeeming qualities, you won't get a second chance.
True but Father Time catches up to everyone by the time a woman is 35 and still single and picky she may want to rethink life. It’s fine to have preferences. I’ve seen beautiful women men who are balding. I’ve seen girls with short guys. Women put on make up or can enhance their boobs or ass with surgery. Guys/men can’t do that. Now I do agree if a guy works on himself — establishes a career/life, works out and in shape, even if he’s short or rocks a bald head and is like 3/10 or 4/10 in the looks dept. then I don’t know maybe get a nose job?
Better looking nose helps the face look more attractive. In that case it’s not that hard to get a woman or girl. If a guy is normal, caring on top of that I believe more women will give the guy a chance. I can’t rip girls online, it falls on guys to take care of their looks and physique. Even a decent looking guy who’s 5’7 and smells good and has confidence will get attention from some women.
True stuff, no shit.
I would also add to your list:
Her being ashamed of you. As in she doesn't think you're bad and she's friendly with you but thinks your personality and stuff are so weird and goofy that she'd be embarrassed to date you.
I actually was going to detail something like that a little bit but the Take was already long enough.
1. Too short.
2. Not Christian
3. Overweight
4. Creepy.
5. Lazy.
And so on
In the back of most girl's mind she knows the kind of guy she wants. Like I want to get married, have kids and live a reasonable lifestyle so any guy I date is going to have to be able to support me and a family though I intend to work.
Wow... Quite the high standards. I hope you are none of them...
@Zolly99999 apart from the height part none of those are "high standards" Those are all very valid reasons to not be romantically interested it someone, and basic adult qualities ever one should have like not being a lazy creep who doesn't take care of himself.
@Subarugirl I get the lazy creep part.. those are hard to change. . the overweight part really depends on the situation and if they are willing to change.. the short and Christian part is really what I was. Referring too.
@Zolly99999 Why would wanting to only date someone who shares your religion be an issue?
@Zolly99999 and for the height thing, I would assume that most men would want to be taller than the women they are in a relationship with anyways...
@Subarugirl because i think it's too much.. there is more to like then religion..
Life*
@Zolly99999 relationships 101, if you are religious, it's generally not a good idea to get involved with someone who doesn't share your beliefs. Most relationship counselors say so. You may thing that but most religions discourage marrying someone who doesn't share that religion.
@Subarugirl wow. I have never heard of this. To me is seems like too much hence why i said the high standards..
@Zolly99999 how? I mean its really not a good idea to marry someone who core values and beliefs are completely different than yours. That is a recipe for disaster..
@Subarugirl I'm not religious so I guess I don't get what you are talking about. But you don't have to be a he same religion to have the same core values in life other then your church or what ever it is you pray too..
@Zolly99999 No you don't for those who are religious, their religious is their core value. That it is a huge deal. Which is why it is so rare to see someone marrying outside of their religion
@Subarugirl I get it. (Sort of) .
@Zolly99999 for people who are religious, like me, faith is a huge part of their life. It's not about going to church here and there or performing some rituals, although that's also important for many people. It's about how you live, what you find acceptable in your life and what you don't. It's highly unlikely that someone who doesn't share the same faith would agree with you on all those things and for me they are non negotiable. If you truly believe then you see the world through your faith, it defines your entire life and you love God more than anything else in the world. It's very difficult to not share it with your partner. I previously considered dating a non Christian... that is until I found my current Christian boyfriend. And now I see that nothing compares to sharing your love for God with your partner whom you also love. It's just wonderful and inspiring to see how much he trusts God and being with someone who doesn't would only make me miserable in the long run. If you're non religious or lukewarm on the entire topic then you're lucky - that's the vast majority of people in the western world. Also, if you know that could be a problem in the future then it's responsible and forward thinking to only consider people who fit your criteria. Honestly even if her expectations were high (which they're not), what's wrong with that? If it helps her have a more successful relationship and then marriage then it's best she does than than settle for less... and why would she? Why would anyone?
@Seinna sorry but to me there is more to life then religion or any 1 thing. Life is about compromise and having too high of standards you will be disappointed many times in life because nothing will ever be good enough in your mind.
@Zolly99999 wanting a partner that shares your worldview is not having too high expectations, it's planning for the future in which you're both still together. And of course you think this way because you're not religious. But for religious people it's actually very important... I believe I explained it well enough but if you still don't get it then I rest my case.
@Zolly99999 I mean, being in decent shape, having a work, ethic, not being a creep, and sharing the same religion are all common standards that aren't high. And believe it or not people can like whatever height they want too.
@Fion3il True, but it is quite sad that a woman would turn down a good decent guy just because he's a few inches shorter than her. Are women really that shallow?
@Stephen_77 I can’t count the amount of mens dating profiles than men have, that state “no fatties”
@Subarugirl Well I've never come across that, and there's a massive difference between a man being a few inches shorter than a woman, and a woman who is fat like a pig or whale.
@Stephen_77 well unless your desired demographic of dates are from men… that’s not surprising
It’s not really that different, you’re trying to demonize someone for what they find attractive
@Subarugirl Yes it is very different, and you are a retarded moron if you can't see that.
@Stephen_77 so you would be totally okay with perusing a woman who is taller and stronger than you? Have you? Because if not that is superficial according to you.
@Subarugirl Height is irrelevent. The fact that height is an issue for people in the twenty first century just shows what a sad sick society we now live in.
@Stephen_77 oh so now it’s irrelevant, I thought you just said it was superficial…
@Subarugirl Oh, so now you're gaslighting, claiming I said something I did not say. Nice try though.
@Stephen_77 you said "True, but it is quite sad that a woman would turn down a good decent guy just because he's a few inches shorter than her. Are women really that shallow? " is that incorrect?
@Stephen_77 you said.. and I quote "Height is irrelevant"
@Subarugirl Yes that's what I said, which is why I also said height is irrelevent.
@Stephen_77 so do you know what irrelevant means or do you mean something else?
@Subarugirl Yes I know what it means
@Stephen_77 so how can something be shallow and irrelevant… that would be an oxymoron
@Subarugirl I think this conversation is over. I'm done
@Stephen_77 Well obviously since you can't explain or provide reasonable for justification and are contradicting yourself.
Interesting discussion, thank you.
Many years ago, when I was young and single, I was dating three women at the same time (they didn't know about each other0. One of them unexpectedly came into my apartment (each one had a key) and caught me having sex with another woman. I guess that's a legit reason why she rejected me. That reminds me, I never got her key back... no worries... I left that apartment years ago.
But can she reject me if I take her on a boat? She could reject me, but should wouldn't reject me because of the implication.
Not reading all that man I’m sorry lol. That’s a freaking declaration for women. It’s simple, if a girl or woman doesn’t like you move on to others. I don’t care about rejection. Women are afraid of rejection and women overthink when it comes to possible suitors. Women go based on emotion as well and that does not always correlate with the best decision.
Oof, if this is all true then my dating life looks really grim considering I have so many friends and acquaintances, plus i stand out when it comes to my outfit styles, and my Jack-of-all-trades interests... goodbye any chance at romance 😢😅 will say though some of these do apply to guys too.
You just have to weed out the rotten chicks is all.
Lol weed them out? I hardly find any who actually have interest in me in a romantic way. Most tell me "i don't find you attractive and see you only as a good friend." Like, I'll take the relationship, but it feels like a back handed compliment. I can't help i have no sexual advancement like most guys. I'm demisexual & DemiRomantic my intentions are purely interest in who she is as a person.
*I'll take the friendship
Lol, I don't date women, but these are some nice, sensible gems.
1st and 2nd make 200% sense. In this case for me.. "Their father or whole family wouldn’t approve because of your race".. This is the main sticking point to where I am. You have to fit a mold to date someone here. and is it all about race and color, REGARDLESS WHAT THEY SAY
Are you saying you DON'T want your daughter dating certain races?
@ManOnFire I dont see color. I see a human. If your a thug, if you are unkept. When you meet the parents you are suppose to be refined. Properly dressed. I dont have kids. I got told "Your brown - you won't fit in our family".
I see.
@ManOnFire how would you feel if someone upkept came and picked your daughter up?
Oh I would definitely not approve.
Reading this was like a list of reasons to reinforce giving up dealing with women, as a man once said to me, it's not worth it for a hole between their legs, you'll have a lot more fun with your guy friends (i. e. they won't have a massive list of entitled qualifications you must meet for acceptance)
I used to really hate being rejected and then see the girl going out with a real loser of a guy. I never could figure it out.
The friends part is a big one, If I go on a date for the first time, I dont want to see friends in sight, its done a lot of damage to potentials I have had in the past.
Nah, just some long feel good BS
It's about breaking rule nr1
"Be attractive"
and rule nr2
"Don't be unattractive"
If she finds you hot, she won't reject you.
The hotter you are for her, the more of your crazyness she will put up with.
If you are a decent hot dude, she will never leave your side.
It's hard for me to find an unspoken reason why I get rejected.. If I get rejected, they can't wait to tell me why!!
Well, that's certainly better than them ghosting you.
i'd also like to add that some men just come off as a bit creepy. not saying that they're creeps or anything, but another reason why some women can be distant towards certain men.
you're 13 why do you think you have any authority in this discussion?
@Imsmurter1 it's an open discussion man. No one has authority in that.
@Lionman95 You should talk about things you don't know about. As a 13 year old she 'shouldn't' know anything about men.
She usually gives pretty sensible advice.
So either she's lying about her age, or the adults on this site are particularly retarded.
@Imsmurter1 maybe because i constantly get creepy dms? like seriously adults that are 20-30 year old men ask if i masturbate and if i like sex even though they're aware i'm 13. so yes, i totally have the right to comment something on that.
As if them being sweet and caring makes it any better given that you’re 13? Get off these discussions you don’t belong on them.
@Imsmurter1 "sweet and caring"? since when was wanting to fuck a 13 year old sweet and caring? dude if you support pedophilia you don't even belong on this planet.
Wow can you seriously not read? I don’t support pedophilia that’s why I say you get off these discussions. Also you can make your account private so people not DM you. Seriously I don’t know why 13 year olds like yourself come into sites like these when you are completely not age appropriate in most of the discussions.
I didn’t say those creepy dudes were sweet and caring I meant even IF they were sweet and caring it doesn’t make it any better because you’re THIRTEEN! Now learn to fucking read and get off this site!
@Imsmurter1 wow can you seriously not even have proper grammar? what even is your problem? gee someone hasn't had their morning coffee yet... grumpy asf
@Imsmurter1 now learn how to fucking have better grammar and take your morning coffee and maybe spend a few days off of the internet!!!
I have the worst boyfriend I reject him and truly
Try but don’t want him
And he doesn’t try like tonite i said sex and he rejects me
Why are you a female using a male profile?
I don't know about all that. I think it depends on the woman really. But they aren't worth it anyways if these are the reasons and that is just being honest