My theory has always been that the since the toilet seat needs to be down the majority of the time anyway, men living with 1+ women in their house should put it down. It's not a feminism thing, it's a practicality thing.
Think about it. If my boyfriend and I share a bathroom, he gets 50% toilet use and I get 50% toilet use. I need it down all the time (full 50% of its use), he needs it down at least 25% of the time (so 12.5% of use). That means at least 63% of the time, the seat needs to be down in a household with one guy, one girl. Therefore, put the seat down when you're done.
If you're a chick living with 2 or 3 guys, well, sorry, but majority rules and you're probably going to have to put the seat down a lot...
how about when the seat is not in the position you need it to be, then move it? simple and fair. done.
Obviously you've never had to pee really, really bad then had to stop to put the darn seat down...Mostly, I'd agree with you, but I figure courtesy/majority can dictate some of the time. After you're done using the toilet, there's no urgency so you can take your time to put it down. Before you use it- sometimes it's urgent lol.
you're wrong, actually. thousands of times i have had to pee really, really bad and had to turn the seat up. see my point? i could use exactly the same argument as you but just replace the word "down" with "up".
it's a preference. what makes yours more important than mine?
or, since i had to lift the seat before i peed, i could just leave it up and let you put it down when you need to go. it takes you no longer to put it down than it takes me to put it up. fair is fair.
how would you feel about "majority rules" with respect to gender roles? yeah, that's what i thought.
how about individual needs rule? easy, fair, equal, done.
Well, considering there are more women on the planet than men, it might actually work out in my favour. But, like the toilet seat thing, gender roles are subjective and entirely dependent on cultural, religious, regional laws/politics, historical traditions and a whole lot of other factors. Couples have to work out for themselves what gender roles should be. There are no set in stone gender roles- there are common themes, but not set in stone roles. Different societies/cultures have different definitions, as do different households. So, like with the toilet seat, I say work it out between yourselves what role you each play. Obviously every person is entitled to basic human rights, but dividing up the household chores and responsibilities is up to the individual.
I think people should just move the toilet seat to how they need it. It's up to the individual to make sure the seat is situated properly for their needs. I get so annoyed when women complain about "falling in the toilet" because, I mean, it takes literally two seconds to look and make sure it's down before sitting. That's not the man's fault, it's the woman's own stupidity that caused her to fall in the toilet...
I have a brother and if I notice he left the toilet seat up, I just put it down and continue on with my business. Most men have to put the seat up every time they need it so I don't see why a lot of women complain about having to put it down sometimes.
Hey look! Someone with common sense!
haha well thank you:)
Haha why thank you RedThread...I try :P
No, I don't care if they put the seat down, but I do care if they piss all over it.
Leaving it up is NBD, and I really don't care if they do it because it requires no effort to put it down. Pissing all over it is not only disgusting, but then I have to take the time to clean it before I can go to the bathroom.
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There is a statistical answer which says that men have to out number women for it to be that the seat goes up without being more of a hassle. The fact women get funny about it is their problem and they should accept they are going to wash their hands after anyway so touching it doesn't make a difference. It's just as easy to put down as it is to put up.
Personally I put the seat and lid down after use. Better for hygiene, better for aesthetics, better at stopping smells and most of all both genders need to do something but also prevents men pissing over everything so much as they are forced to pay attention.
I don't get it... it's just a toilet seat... it shouldn't matter who puts it down or up? Just switch it to suit your needs.
Even though I'm the only one using the toilet at home, I personally leave it down, along with the lid, for hygienic reasons, especially when it comes to flushing. I don't want dirty water splashing out of the toilet bowl.
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Depends on the number of females and males in the given household. If there are more males than females in the household, then it makes no sense to put it down each time, considering there is a higher chance of males using the restroom, therefore the overall number of times the toilet seat's position needs to be altered is lower.
I personally close down both the lid and the cover each time I'm done. Use the toilet as you wish, the circumstances I create for you are equal. :P
never bothered me. its the same thing as opening and closing the lid. they dont have to do anything. but you may as well just take off the whole seat so no one has to touch it anymore. i can always squat and pee.
if you left it down and peed on the seat, i will pee on the seat and leave poop unflushed just to spite you.
Oh my friggin' GOD! I don't see what's the big deal about it! If its not in a position suitable for a particular gender, then its not rocket science for him/her to put it that way. And it doesn't require much of an effort. Its a no-brainer really! If women (or men) are so worried about 'touching' it, they should have enough common sense to know that they can just wash their hands with soap and water soon after.
Everyone should put the toilet seat down, lid included. It's more hygienic when the lid is closed. don't know why that's so hard to understand?
yes that's true cuz the toilet water will evaporate and we will breathe it ><
i always keep the lid down.
that's your "opinion" and most men would disagree. what makes you the authority and the one who should make the decision? no one, which is why people should handle the toilet seat they way they want and not ask anyone to conform to their "opinion".
don't know why that's so hard to understand?
poopy particles do not evaporate. only water does. ever heard of distillation?
Lol no need to get your panties in a bunch backdoorman.
I said "everyone SHOULD" not "everyone has to". I never claimed dictatorship over toilet etiquette. I simply said that putting the lid down is the best option in my opinion. Not only is it more hygienic, but it also means that she gets to lift it up when she needs to use it, just like you do. I don't know but that sounds pretty darn equal to me! The lid is there for a reason yo.
you want it down, i want it up. the only "equal" solution is for us each to move it the way we need it, when we need it. don't know why that's so hard to understand?
i agree. cheers.
If anyone is going for that argument, it is ridiculous. Someone will have to put it down or back up anyway. WASH YOUR FUCKING HANDS. Keeping it down gives those uncivilized lunatics to stand and pee with the seat down and then u complain the seat is unusable.
toilet seat and lid should be kept closed. and if touching your toilet makes you feel uncomfortable (and you don't have OCD), it isn't being cleaned well/often enough
I grew up in a house with 5 guys in it, so it just became a habit of mine to put the seat down whenever I go to the washroom. I don't really care. I'm not putting it back up for them though, lol.
How about everybody puts it all the way down, lid included? Fairness for all.
Who gave you birth?
A woman
Did you put the toilet seat up? Yes. YOU put it down then.
Why? Because a woman took enough pain for 9 months. You can take 2 seconds every day to put it down. This way you return 9 months of service in your whole lifetime if each time you put it up and down yourself.
And of you pee on it... *goes and wears the strap on*
Shut up and do it otherwise get out of my house.
that may well be the most illogical argument on this topic that i have ever heard. lol nice one.
Haha thanks kid
Ok I'll put it down for my mom, otherwise everyone else is fair game
Okay good :)
Well done ImCoasting <3 :) proud of you.
IF* you pee on it
Sorry for the typo.
Rthomas43, I love you too :)
The perennial toilet seat issues is a shining example of female entitlement mentality and hypocrisy. Women think they have a right to not touch the toilet seat because it's dirty, so they believe men should have to do all the touching. What makes women think they are so special? How about EVERYONE move the seat however the fuck they want it?
if you fall into the toilet, its your fault. I've fallen into the toilet when I was young. not my fault they make the seat the same colour as the bowl.
Lid and the seat. Just like I do. Otherwise my cat and dog drink toilet water and so bacteria doesn't fly everywhere when you flush. It's not difficult.
if a guy puts it up, well then he's not gonna pee all over it..
so he's actually thinking of her,
if she puts it down, well then she's not gonna fall in.. lol
and its not all pissed on.. see everyone's happy (:
I never really cared... If the seat is up, at least there won't be any pee on the seats and I won't have to clean it up.. I'm pro putting the seats up... It's not that hard to put it back down...
I don't care. If it's up, just put it down yourself. It's really not a big deal.
If I squat and pee all over the the seat should I wipe it after?
Here's the deal, if I were the sex to pee standing up, I'd do you that solid and just out the kid down
I put the toilet seat down along with the lid. Wife gets mad. I tell her if i gotta lift the lid to go, so does she.
I think whoever is using it should have the personal responsibility to make sure it goes into whatever position they needs to use it.. Is it really so difficult to ask for people to have some personal responsibility? This goes for men AND women.
You should put the toilet seat down because everyone poops with it in that default position.
I'll fuckin dump a bitch in front of her family if she's the type that's too stupid to look before she sits.
Girls are just too lazy to touch and put down the very seat they put their dairy rears on.
I see that dislike but you know it's true. :D
Absolutely!! It's just polite and shows the ladies that you respect them. It costs NOTHING!
That sounds ideal haha. I just had to learn to put the seat down myself.
As long as he gets all the pee in the pot, I don't care...
I think a lot of girls have issues with this because they don't want to touch it. Everyone should just put the entire lid down
so why should the guy be the one who touches it?
Both male and female have to touch it...
then what was the point of your original comment?
That both should just put the entire thing down...
or since both have to touch it anyway, you original point is moot and both should just move it as they need it when they need to. simple.
Yes they should because its polite and we don't fall in. But personally I always put the actual lid down anyways so it's neutral anyways.
You're a capable woman, you can put the seat down yourself.
Are people so lazy they can't adjust it to their needs?
Dude just keep the seat down, and if you piss on the seat let it air dry
What's wrong with one putting it up or down as needed instead of expecting someone else doing it beforehand? I need to put it up, I do it myself. I need to put it down, I do it myself. No drama at all.
I mean if your that lazy that you can't put it down again i guess its fine..
hell no this is 2014 women should be able to remember to put the seat up
Tbh, it can be annoying to put it bak up everytime lol,.
i don't care. i've never fallen in.
did you put it up? then yes you should put it down.
LOL!!!
touche my friend!!
i agree :)
i vote that all women should put the seat up when they're done so men don't have to touch it. seems just as fair as asking all men to put it down. explain to me how it's different.
its just more sanitary to keep it down...
that's your opinion, not mine. most men would agree with me. what makes you right and us wrong?
were women, were always right!! just kidding lol :P
but seriously the sanitary thing isn't my opinion, its fact. keeping the lid down on the toilet keeps the bacteria contained, plain and simple!!
i disagree, therefore i will leave the seat up. if you need it down, put it down. the end.
you can disagree all you want, but facts are facts...besides who wants all that bacteria floating around the room...gross!!
right, facts are facts and the fact is men are going to leave the seat up because we have just as much right to as you have to leave it down. you have no more right to ask us to leave it down than we do to ask you to leave it up. it's really a very simple thing.
for decades women have been telling men they have to leave the seat down and we have been leaving it up. the only change has been that many women have recognized the hypocrisy of that stance and decided they have no right to ask men to do something they are not willing to do themselves.
read through the female responses here. nuff said.
I really don't care. It doesn't bother me.
Yes I don't know many times I fell in the toilet bowl from my idiot brother leaving the seat down.
I don't care, i look before I sit
I don't care either way. I can put it down
It's called "cleaning up after yourself".
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