"There are specific patterns of behaviors that women can pick up on that will help them to "mind read" any man who's interacting with her. She needs this skill to protect herself." - THIS x9000
This is the best so far..... :) also, very true.. I can spot the way someone is looking at me from anywhere.. and I can sense by the way they hold themselves or there face what they would want with me.. sometimes its very creepy.. others, its flattering.. but generally there all wantin' the one thing...
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Women are like bloodhounds
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Yeah, I have had the same experience - just substitute weirdo, ugly, short, etc for "creep" and you have it. Hell I've been called an "ugly gargoyle" whatever that is. I don't say these things about girls (or anyone else for that matter) and I don't know any guys who say these sorts of things about girls they don't like so I'm not sure where it comes from. I do know that girls who are younger really seem to get off on insults etc, maybe it has to do with their own insecurities.
Did you ever think there are plenty of guys who work their asses off, but aren't making money because of reasons beyond their control? I guess that doesn't matter since they technically aren't "self-sufficient". Maybe if you understood life and the shit that happens in it, you wouldn't be so judgmental and you wouldn't have so many guys thinking you're a bitch. I've seen many different walks of life being a care worker and EMT among other things. I've met some of the most amazing people who are not self-sufficient for reasons such as medical issues, being laid off or the economy just being plain shitty, but they are by no means "creeps". It seems you need to learn some empathy and actually understand a person- guys in this instance- before you go making snap judgments about them as a person. By the way, you can angrily respond to this all you want but I won't respond back. I just stumbled onto this site, so wasn't planning on posting, but your comment made me angry enough to reply.
Yeah sometimes their personality or if a guy was creepy based on them trying way too hard and acting desperate when were clearly not interested. If we seem not interested and trying to get rid of you, leave us alone and go chat to someone else lol :P
actually you're being hypocritical by saying that. guys just don't call girls bitches, sluts or whores for no reason. believe me, I was diagnosed with Autism when I was younger. my social skills are less than stellar and honestly its not my fault at all. I was born this way. things that most other guys would get like sarcasm and body language fly over my head. sure, I might be forward. but there's nothing like the harsh reality of maybe spending the rest of your life alone.
grindmonkey I'm in the same boat as you.
Glad you pointed out that's unfair to call someone a bitch or whore when you don't know them, but I guess there are exceptions for women who don't know the men they call and "unfairly" lable creep. You get the fuck over yourself.
Heres the problem with that. if a guy smiles at you from across the room and walks up slowly staring at your eyes the whole way there gazing into your soul.. you are still going to get creeped out... so that's not really true.2nd.. if a guy dances behind you getting way too close and you know him, or you locked eyes with him 10 minutes ago its not creepy.Or If the guy has other girls around him, suddenly its ok.Or if they guy does it as a joke or does it cheekily, than suddenly its all alright
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Just by what you said you failed grammar school lol
VERY VERY VERY TRUE. Right on the head.
Why does this always happen to me? :( ..... *hides ninja suit*
Totally agree with this. Recently I went to the bar and this girl danced with me and was practically humping me, and afterward she called me a creep. I should have called her a creep for humping my leg, lol.
the thing is, girls don't realize that using this word is as offensive as a guy calling a girl a slut or a whore.
Thats not always true tho. I enjoy getting attention for all types. I actually even give the not so hot chicks chances and don't always regret it. I've even read chick magazines that did "picky" polls that said women are 30% more picky than men!
Agree totally - Thumbs up = )
Way to say what most girls don't want to admit!
You speaketh the truth.
Do I look like et a girl keep saying so ?
So.. here's what I got out of that.1. wait until the girl is just sitting there doing nothing, praying that a guy comes and talks to her... perhaps just hide around the corner and peak at her until you think she's ready.2. If the girl says anything close to hinting that she might not like you, such as "i have class in 5 minutes... just leave and never talk to her again.. she hates your guts.3. A girl writing in her journal is more important than meeting the love of her life.Lesson learned!
4. Never bring up random topics.. its not enough to be good looking, carry the conversation, but you absolutely must come up with something relevant to talk about.. like her shoes. yeah... her shoes... that would work I'm sure.
Excuse me? How is it my fault if I'm talking to him and then say, "I have to go to work now," and he continues to talk to me? What if YOU were late to work or class and a girl you didn't like held you up for ten minutes? You wouldn't like it either. Wow, somebody sounds bitter.The same is true for writing in my journal - I wanted alone time and he decided that wasn't important enough to leave me alone. Gee, that sure is respectful of the girl you'd like to go out with.
And for the random conversations - I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy one-sided conversations that I can't contribute anything to. Why would I want to listen to a guy talk about nothing I care about? I don't read Russian literature - what can I say about it? It's not that I don't care about heavy issues - I'd gladly debate healthcare - but I want something where I can have a dialog, not something where he talks AT me (which is what he did - couldn't get a word in edgewise.)
And huh, I noticed you didn't say anything about him knocking on my door. Even you concede that that's creepy.(Addition to #2: It's not about "never talking to her again" - it's about respecting the fact that she has an obligation, and letting her attend scheduled class/work, instead of continuing to talk to her as if work/class is not important. You misinterpreted it.)It's incredible that you have no empathy or capacity to put yourself in a woman's shoes at all.
First off, yea that guy is obviously creepy. Let me just say though that you commented "It's incredible that you have no empathy or capacity to put yourself in a woman's shoes at all." Apply that same feeling and look at this from a guy's perspective. Women are constantly saying they want a guy who is "confident" and "assertive", then turn around and call us creepy when we make a move. It's difficult for us to determine when a girl is saying "no" versus when she's saying "try harder".
Women are far more socially intuitive than guys. A woman might think she's clearly communicating "I'm not interested" to a guy, but he doesn't get the hint because he's not able to interpret her signals.Let's face it, women WILL test a guy's determination. They'll pretend to be uninterested and watch how and if he reacts. Guess what? From his perspective, signals communicating "go away" and "try harder" look almost identical. He has to either give up or give it a shot. What's he to do?
I know plenty of guys who find themselves in this situation. They really like a girl but are terrified that by making a move they'll "creep her out", and look like a complete jerk in the process. All they see from her are mixed signals. Give up and lose the girl by default, or try and at least have a shot. What would you do in his situation? He's not TRYING to be a creep. He didn't wake up that morning and think about how he could weird you out. Odds are he just doesn't know better.
The person who complains first about the opposite sex is the one whos bitter. Not the person reacting to it. So I win. YEY! :) HA!Look, if it were a guy and pamela anderson came to the door and was holding me up for class, id would be like , sorry sweetheart I got to go!The difference is you have no idea that this guy could be the one. He may of may not be.Most men and many women would put talking to and meeting mr right, more important than writing in your journal. Its about priorites.
Plus, you are just using "writing in my journal" as an excuse. You could have easily said, brushing my gold fishes teeth.Look, even socially calibrated people understand that its the persons job to carry the conversation because the person being approached isn't going to react all that well, because usually they are caught off guard. Even when its a topic they like. And how is he supposed to know that you hate literature, he might despise the topic of health care. sounds nervous not creepy.
Actually if you had said "i'm busy flossing my cat right now." and actually didn't have a cat. I can 100% guarantee you he would have got the hint. And even then he might continue depending on how his persistence has worked for him in the past. I'm working in my journal right now is a terrible rejection line, it says to most men "i have little time to talk. and not, "i don't have time to talk." Its a time constraint, not a complete rejection line.
I am also not going to be empathic towards a woman who complains and is bitter about creepy men, when she's a huge part of the problem.Instead of saying "why can't you see my side" try and ask "why can't I see HIS side." meaning the creepy guys and not mine. There is no way in hell that I could care less of what you think about me. Think about him.Men are just as responsible at creating womens behavior as women are creating mens behavior. The difference is most people will never admit it. ever.
Most women and most men will never admit that women have just as much to do with creating men's behavior as men do at creating women.A interaction is never one sided. Unless you are talking to a fork, and planned to fork yourself later.Instead of trying to say that other people can't see your side, try seeing someone else's.I'm not going to be empathic towards a woman who complains about creepy guys when she's hugely responsible for it.And sweetie, you are.
I know pleanty of women that never have any problems with creepy guys, and they are approached 20 times a day.It no longer bothers them. They don't sit around bitter and complaining about guys hitting on them, Which is kinda strange to complain about guys being interested in you, when you think about it. I rarely complain about the 100's of fat women that have asked me for sex. How do they do it you ask?They change themselves and they make their intentions clear.Sometimes you got to say f-off
Superdudeman - Like I said, you have no empathy to see another person's point of view. And once again, you read what you want to read - not what I wrote. I legitimately was upset and wanted to write in my journal. How dare you tell me what I ACTUALLY wanted to do or not wanted to do. And mostly? I find you pathetic that you're commenting so that you can "win" the argument. You're 31, spending most of your time on an advice site, trolling girls responses. No wonder you can't get one.
Forte - I can see where you're coming from. I think the frustrating thing about girls is that every one of them is different - some of them are as you described, and others are like me, where I don't play games or purposely ignore a guy to see if he's interested. Personally, if a guy asked my best friend if I was interested, that would make life a lot easier, I'd give a straight answer, and we could be done with it. 'Course, that's never gonna happen. XD
Like I said, you are bitter about creepy guys. It sure reads that you are really p*ssed off. Pissed off from an anonymous guy on the internet.I don't spend most of my time on the internet trolling for girls responses. I spend every waking moment doing that. Its all that I ever do, so you're dead wrong. I love it how people "on the internet" try and bag on people for being on the internet. Pot calling kettle.And btw I'm a virgin, live in my parents basement and am afraid of the sun.
Please anonymous woman on the internet, who's probably a man, won't you love me?Maybe someday ill know what a naked woman looks like.The bottom line is that its your responsibility to make it clear that you are disinterested.Its called "leading a guy on."Really really attractive women don't have this problem, you are probably either too nice or just too ugly.And given from your rather comical responses, I have to assume its your ugly.That's the simple truth and hot girls know it.
Lose weight and maybe someday a real man will talk to you and love you for who you are, warts and all. Get hotter, be less bitchy and then you might deserve a real man. men love being around bitter women, its HOT! You could be hot and have the intelligence of a gnat because even the stupidest hottest women develop a response to all the barrage of bore that creepy guys put on them. Anyways I'm done talking to you. Have fun living with your 20 cats.
@superdudeman You lost credibility on the argument when you tried to compare meeting people (which is a choice, mind you) with priorities. Sorry, bud. But, meeting people and being intimate with aren't priorities. And perhaps, writing in her journal was far more engaging and interesting than the mouth breather wanting her attention.
@superdudeman You are seriously pathetic.
Thank you. I've always wondered that. One girl I know was giggling and smiling at me constantly whenever I spoke (even though nothing I said was funny), and other girls thought that I was unattractive and creepy.
That's simply not true. There are loads of guys that I would say are funny but unattractive physically, and lots of guys that I find attractive who are total creeps. If anything, I would say that girls are generally significantly better at differentiating between them than guys.
Rofl, Rainbows. I forget where but you had this post where you said it yourself that you shouldn't try to delineate between looks and personality and that they affected each other.The truth is they don't.
Women never say no when they mean yes. EVER.Even when they say it with a smile and are looking at the guy in the crotch.And drooling.Women never say something different than what they mean.EVER.Its always true the first time.Women never play games either. or test a guys resolve to see if he will keep perusing.You are absolutely right.
If a womans maturity level is the issue, then why would you pursue her in the first place? Because that is exactly what your describing... a woman that isn't worth it.
True there are more girls than we can all get around to in a lifetime anyhow so if the vibe gets cold then bounce. Hell bounce even if it's going good just because you can.
I know from experience that many girls just like to generalize and use the word "creep" for all of those things.
Yeah people do generalise, but I just meant that the people I know would only describe someone as creepy if they were actually creepy. and for us 'creepy' would basically be what jon364 said "When I think of creepy, I think of a seedy guy hanging out by himself staring at some girls from a far. Thinking sexual thoughts about them." someone who looks like that would be a creep, of course we may be worng and he could be completely harmless but unfortunately we judge on appearances...
What does liking you a little too much mean? Is it better he likes you too much or not at all? Is it just another word for clingy? When girls are a little too attention seeking, like a friends sister who keeps hugging your leg, I think of it as clingy. Is creeper the male equivalent?When I think of creepy, I think of a seedy guy hanging out by himself staring at some girls from a far. Thinking sexual thoughts about them. But judging by this topic, I got it wrong.
If you don't tell them to their face "Sorry I'm not interested" then you aren't being clear.
And the ones that aren't, and don't?
Is it a defense mechanism?
Pretty much every guy who isn't good looking is usual socially awkward....
Not true.. I've seen some pretty geeky looking guys who are super cool! lol I just wasn't interested in them. It's all about hte way a guy carries himself.
Wow. if men were unattractive to shy awkward women. the species would die.Men like women who are confident too, its just that we have a tendency to look past a woman being socially inept.You have two options when you see a hot guy. Either give the guy a chance and see if he warms up or you can p*ss him away like all the other creepy guys in your life.Guys that are confident at first can turn out to be creepy just as easily.
I once knew an underwear model who had sex with tons of women, like 10 a week on average.I saw him chat up a gal who was only relatively attractive (8) but for some reason he was having an off night and came off creepy.. She rejected him, he thought it was no big deal, but she just missed out on one of the best looking, funniest, fun, richest looking guys I have ever met.Sometimes we have off days. She really really screwed up.BAD.
Umm wow. first of all I wouldn't want to have sex with someone who sleeps with ten women a week on avg. and for 2. Its not a snap judgement. its something that takes time for me. I never thought you guys would get all worked up over me saying that just because guys AREN:T all attractive that it doesn't make all of them creepy. I have a 40some year old guy in my class who lives wiht his parents and hits on all of us 20 year old girls. that is creeperish.
Ok then explain to me how I know a 75 year old man who sleeps with 21 year old women all the time and they never call him creepy. And neither do any of the girls that are around him.That much worse than your 40 year old.And lets turn the table, would you say the same thing if it were a 40 year old cougar hitting on 20 year old guys? You might, but then again they wouldn't nor would many other girls.
What are strange clothes?
I've never had a girl tell me NO THANKS. if I did then I would leave them alone. It's their fault if they didn't make their feelings clear.
I completely agree...it is a girls fault, it's not fair that they complain about aguy being a creep while they want their attention - that's stupid. I always say 'listen, I'm really not interested but I'm flattered so thanks'..if he sticks around after I've made my position clear, it's not right
Don't you think it's a little harsh to put someone who's just shy or introverted under the same roof as someone who's too sexually aggressive or mentally unstable? Since when did being shy make a guy dangerous or a bad person?
When someone is a total introvert it's just awkward, hence creepy. You need to come out of your shell a little bit, at least on a date! You're taking my words out of context. I don't like when a guy gets too touchy too early on a date, I don't mean he's trying to rape me.And when did I mention mentally unstable?
And I never said being creepy automatically makes someone dangerous or a bad person.I think you're over-analyzing. Everything. It's creepy. ^.^
Women put them under the same roof all the time. Come on now. Be honest.You are going to act the same way, and feel the same way so for you women it is the same.And what's funny is that when a guy gets super touchy feely with her and does it like its normal an natural, or has been touching her all night and built it up to where its comfortable, suddenly touchy feely is nice and not creepy at all. Even if its technically more touchy than the last creepy guy that touched her.
You can't make a sweeping generalization like that about all women.I still stand my remark that when a guy does something creepy (like seeming far too awkward or shy, says something completely strange or turns into an octopus) that makes him unattractive in my eyes.
Allow me to re-iterate my point, it sounds like I misunderstood your original point. It's clear that if a guy does something too forward, such as making physical advances too early, that it will make him less attractive in the eyes of a girl (rightfully so). However, it's also a bit frustrating that women seem to immediately judge a guy who is less extroverted as being "awkward" and therefore "creepy".
Basically, this puts guys in an odd position because it's unclear just how "forward" he should be. If he's forward, some girls will call him a creep for making them uncomfortable. If he's reserved, girls will still call him a creep because he appears socially awkward. The difference is that the more shy guy hasn't actually done anything to directly make the girl uncomfortable. He's actually "just being himself". Yet he's presumed to be a creeper by default.
Furthermore, it's made even more frustrating because women a girl behaves in a more reserved manner, it's not seen as creepy at all. In fact, some men prefer a girl who's more quiet and shy.Overanalyzing? We're on a website that's purpose is to discuss and analyze the actions of both genders. If I were to go into this much analysis at a party...yea, that would be weird.I guess the end point is that it's tiresome to see people passing judgment on each other so easily.
You can think what you want, but awkward and creepy aren't the same things.
You also can't make a sweeping generalization on all shy or awkward men. Jesus. Are women completely devoid of logic?
@Forte I can understand how women feel... sometimes... but since I side with logic, I have to give you the props. You made sense and she was struggling to make sense.
Lmfao Sorry, but you being 25 means you're definitely lying. Either that, or you have no friends.
Agreed... I can relate. I also hate how "attractive" guys can leave (what I'd call creepy) comments on pics or whatever on MySpace/Facebook and its ok... Or an attractive guy can throw out "i love you" immediately after meeting a girl he's attracted to or something and that's ok too.I agree it's just immaturity
It's not your loss. You wouldn't want to put up with that kind of immaturity anyway.