What do girls think of Nice/Innocent/Shy/Smart guys?

[Slfole664]

Hi, I know that many girls like the cool, bad type of guy. But what do girls think of the nice and innocent shy smart guys. Like guys who are not really experienced with girls or had relationships before. Still a virgin and etc.

[FireWaitingToCatch]

Beware the trap of the "nice guy" narrative, there's a lot of assholes out there who buy into the idea that "women don't like me because I'm just TOO NICE, other guys are only getting dates because they lack my amazing personal virtue." It's appealing because you can blame an unjust universe (or the foolishness of all women, if you're sexist) instead of having to acknowledge any personal shortcomings you might have to work on.

Look at it this way: A healthy relationship is one where you're a positive force in each other's lives. Focus on making sure your presence in their life is a good thing, and vice versa. That can mean being nice- but more important is stuff like actually caring about them, understanding them, being open+honest with them, and respecting what they do & don't want.

[trevor6]

Yeah, the more secure the girl is with herself, the more likely she will date a good guy who doesn't need to act like a "bad boy" to get validation. If you're a very attractive "nice" guy, or super talented at something, "bad boys" stand little chance. Again, as long as the girl is not insecure (which most are)... if she's insecure, she'll likely be interested in only chasing validation, and attention from whoever has most value in the school.

[Anonymous]

I'm just like you! Glad to hear guys my age range are still virgins! Ideally I'd love to be married to one if not he can be celibate.

I think it's cute and all but kinda frustrating because it's like the blind leading the blind! I often times find myself having to make all the moves. I hate initiating things because I feel like he doesn't really like me.

[Slfole664]

yeah i had a crush one time... she got really frustrated and left me =(. i fucked up so badly... it was all my fault. she was perfect...

[Opinion Owner]

I give up flirting with a shy guy after about 2 months in class. I just felt like he didn't like me so i tried to move on to a guy who would take a hint and make a move.
Maybe next time I'll make more obvious hints?

[Slfole664]

if the guy was a loser like me then he doesn't deserve to be loved. The guy needs to improve.

[Opinion Owner]

We're always striving to improve but during that process it's still good/nice to have someone to talk to along the way

[simnaarhn]

Nice and innocent shy smart guys are lovely nd cute but i like funny guys someone that is not afraid to tell the world how much he loves me. For me in place of shy guys i like them funny. It is said that cool guys make you drool, handsome guys make you daydream, but funny guys makes you fall inlove without even realising.

[Nikkismith]

I think it's cute! As long as he's got a great personality and what-not. It may be difficult for someone like you to compete with those tough "bad boy" types, but trust me, girls who are looking for good relationships will gravitate towards you.

[BrittBratt2416]

Losers is what guys seem to think but no its not true. I like talking to nice people in general, my boyfriend is nice for the most part but he knows not to be a push over.

[NaultD]

Shyness is just holding you back. Once you realize that you are the hardest critic and no one is keeping tabs on all of the things that you worry about, you get to a point to where you can put yourself out there.

[Anonymous]

I like them! I am the same way so once in an event I met someone who was exactly like me. He was so adorable and gorgeous. The thought of being mine only and vise versa feels so right. It is very special

[ayy1ma0]

Shy is the only real no no. If you're not confident then you're not going to get very far, even outside of dating.

Unless if by innocent you just mean naive, in which case you're going to get walked all over.

[booshlinux]

ayy lmao

[JohnDoe3000]

Guys like that do fine of they're good-looking. If they're average or below average they'll struggle: there are more of them than there are girls who are into them, and they'll have a hard time meeting those girls too.

[User17]

Be confident, brave, dominant and a good person. Girls like assholes because they are confident, not because they are assholes.

[TomBradysJersey]

It's not that easy to just be confident

[User17]

That's right, but you can work on it, one year ago my confidence was about 4/10, now I'm like 9,5/10.

[TomBradysJersey]

I'm a 4/10 in dating confidence

[User17]

There are a lot of things you can do. There are some good summarys on YouTube, from BasedZeus or PracticalPsychology for example. Anxiety comes from your subconscious mind thinking that you are in danger, so you have to prove it wrong, for example by talking to many girls and asking them what time it is or other things like that, and then progress.

[User17]

How I became more self confident was by selftalk and affirmations (f. e. tell yourself all day "I like myself", sounds weird and esoteric, but just try it for a while, it works) and by winning all these tiny battles that you have everyday. Should I work out today? Yes! Should I shower cold? Yes! Should I watch TV? No! Of course nobody is perfect and it takes some time, but if you don't give up and constantly try to progress and improve yourself, you will become a confident badass sooner than you might think. If you are awesome, you will feel like you're awesome and be confident in yourself.

If my text was too unstructered to understand, just google how to become more confident or look it up on YouTube.

[TomBradysJersey]

My biggest weakness is my mind. It tells me that I'm not as worthy as my older brothers because they have partied by my age and been in relationships by my age, while I simply haven't. I'm by no means a loner (I play two team sports and have friends) but I feel like I have fallen short of some expectations.

[Anonymous]

They are fine but they only thing is that I am shy too so it is difficult for us to approach each other. I think that shy people fit better with very social people. But other than that as long as i have chemistry I don't mind

[Anonymous]

Shyness isn't a good thing when it goes too far, but that's great there's no more that many guys like you. If you try to be friends with her first, show her that you're interested or she'll probably just put you straight to the friendzone.

[karahiri]

i was into that when i was younger. now i was someone... nice, but assertive. i don't want someone i can push around.

[Blake0048]

Why do you attempt to push him around in the first place?

[karahiri]

@Blake0048 it's just my personality

[Blake0048]

No offense but thats like the worst trait a girl can have personality wise. I can keep her in line but I feel like with her being an adult I shouldn't have to. I think some women act up because they are turned on by an aggressive response.

[karahiri]

@Blake0048 I don't want someone to "keep me in line" and I'm not looking for an aggressive response. I just mean I want someone with conviction. There's a difference.

[Blake0048]

Please elaborate

[karahiri]

@Blake0048 Like if I ask his opinion on a controversial topic, for example... abortion. I don't want some wishy-washy crap where he's saying bullshit to either not offend me or to hide how he truly feels about it. I don't want him to just... fold over or back away if I ask him some pointed questions. I want him to be able to defend his points in a logical way.

[Blake0048]

Ohhhhh I gotcha... yea I like that quality in women as well but I didn't understand what you meant by "push hin around"

[Anonymous]

I usually go for that type of guy. if you're not too shy, it is quite adorable when a guy acts shy and sweet around you. It can also sometimes be nice and comforting when a guy asked sweet and more innocent, (some girls are different, but most like their guy to be remotely kinda.) Also being smart is cute if you don't brag about it.

[dwiller943]

They're the only guys I normally date or go for. I feel like I can get along with them easier. The bad guys are lame 'n' make life worse for you.

[Margillard]

They put them in the friend zone and label them beta males.

[Anonymous]

they throw them into the friend zone and continue chasing the asshole who will hurt them physically and emotionally, then theyll come on here and complain about men and wonder where all the good guys on, only to repeat the same cycle again

[JuanFrank7]

What a great question, always interesting to know opinions from the female perspective and there's quite a wealth of them here

[disgustingweebtrash]

Girls don't really like Shy guys unless she's a dom

Smart, girls like that

Innocent, I have no idea about this one, same as shy?

Nice, no.

[frozenhorizon]

tbh they don't really care about smart, just don't be especially stupid.

[Anonymous]

That type is probably more desirable, it makes a girl feel lile they can trust you rather than be on their guard all the time

[Anonymous]

They think nothing, if their personality is bright along with their looks they will like him.

[OmgItsJoe123]

Insta-friendzoned.

[Anonymous]

Those type of guys only get friend zoned.