Girls, why do you give it up to some guys right away but make guys you’re interested in wait?

[LonelyGuy87]

Let me tell you the 3 ways things go down. Hopefully you can explain this to me because I don’t get it.

1: Girl meets guy (on a night out/Tinder/Through friends, etc). They go on a date. She finds him cute, but she is not interested. She will then go home with him and have sex with him, because, why not? Then she never sees him again.

2: Girl is in a club/bar/party with her friends (Girls night out). She gets drunk. Meets a hot stranger. Talks to him for a few minutes , makes out and all of that. Then she goes home with him as her friends cheer her on. She then lets this guy fuck her.

So these two scenarios are things most girls do. They pretty much let complete strangers, who have shown her no interest and put no effort into her have sex. So she gives it up to guys she doesn’t even know. They don’t have to put in any effort or show any interest - yet they are good enough for her to sleep with.

Now...

3: Girl meets guy. They go on a date. She is attracted to him and like his personality. Guess what? She doesn’t give it up for weeks/months! So the guy who likes her, puts in effort and sees her as more than just a sex partner - has to wait, yet some douchebags can hop on in without any effort and all of that. THIS IS NOT ADDING UP!

Girls, can you please explain why you do this? Why do you treat good guys like shit and reward the fuckboys?

[witherwing]

I don't have sex with strangers, so I can't really answer from my personal view.

But I would think that they don't have sex right away with someone they like to make sure the man is also interested in a long term relationship and not just sex. A one night stand is meaningless, but when you have sex with someone you have feelings for, you want it to be special.

[LonelyGuy87]

Bullshit. Women are such hypocrites. They only value sex WHEN THEY WANT IT to matter. No wonder no guy wants to date all of you...(no offense)

[witherwing]

None taken. I'm in a happy relationship with a guy who wants to date me. 🤷🏼

[latinabutterfly96]

@LonelyGuy87. interesting. So you’re not only using the “beta male” / “alpha male” phrases that only ignorant bitches use, you’re also referring to straight men as beta.

Cool. I guess only gay men are alpha.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 No. Fuckboys are alpha males - they don't get exploited and used by girls. Betas are guys who date modern women.

[latinabutterfly96]

@LonelyGuy87 Actually, they do get used by girls. Probably even more so than “normal” men. Fuckboys have low self esteem and desperately seek validation from females. Some females are evil enough that they take advantage of that.

You have the facts completely reversed.

[latinabutterfly96]

It’s like saying black is white and white is black. Crazy.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 how do fuckboys get used? That makes no damn sense.

[latinabutterfly96]

Um, yes it does. Where do you think they got the term “fuckboy” from? It replaced boytoy. It’s a guy that is only there for sex. Period. Nothing more. He gets treated accordingly and women don’t think about his personality and don’t care what his mind can contain.

You have extremely low self respect if you want to be a fuckboy. LOL

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 but dating a girl... spending money on her... giving her my time & effort... and then getting some sex... and then she breaks up/cheats... that's somehow having self respect?

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 you enjoy abusing and insulting me but when I ask for a bit of help you just ignore me.

[latinabutterfly96]

I’m ignoring you because why do u expect me to help you if I’m part of the group you hate. Lmao gtfo

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 I don't hate you or women. Please don't assume I do.

[latinabutterfly96]

Totally, that’s why you say all women cheat, use, manipulate and lie.

You obviously love women.
Probably an in-denial gay man.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 Not all of them. I never said all just women in general. Sorry if I offended you.

[latinabutterfly96]

*Waits for the next amusing, crazy psycho question to notify me*

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 stop being mean!

[latinabutterfly96]

I’m just saying that a one night stand is meaningless. Girls don’t give a shit about some sexy stranger they meet at a bar. THAT is why. We don’t care about the guy we’re fucking. You don’t seem to get it.

Imagine this. What if you met a sexy girl with a tiny waist, big boobs and a cute face. You don’t care about HER, but I’m sure you’d like to have sex with her right? If she lets you, why the fuck not?

It’s the same for women. Most of us heterosexual, we’re attracted to DICKS and HOT GUYS just like you’re attracted to boobs and pussy! It doesn’t mean you care about her! You just wanna have some fun, WELL GIRLS FUNCTION EXACTLY THE SAME.

But when you find someone not only attractive but also YOU KNOW THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE, then you might treat her with more respect. SAME WITH WOMEN. We treat men with more respect if we LIKE them; we want more from them.

Get it?

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 well then dating is dead then.

[latinabutterfly96]

@LonelyGuy87 Most guys seem to disagree with you. And most girls too. Dating isn’t dead, because people still are doing it. I doubt that you’ve never had a crush on a girl? I mean, have you felt positive warm fuzzy emotions when around her? That’s what you get when you like someone and not just because of her looks. And that is why dating isn’t dead; people know what love is and people still want to be with someone for not only friendship but also romance, support, doing activities together etc.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 no it’s dead because people just act like animals.

[LonelyGuy87]

People have no value for emotions or for sex.

[latinabutterfly96]

@LonelyGuy87 Ok then. Begone

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 women and their obsession for casual sex has killed dating. Fact.

[latinabutterfly96]

😂😂😂😂

[Ellie-V]

You are mistaken. Waiting for sex isn’t a damn punishment. And being a nice guy doesn’t make you entitled to getting laid sweetheart. There’s a difference between a one night stand and a relationship. In a relationship you have to earn those privileges. If you can’t understand that then just stick to jerking off.

[LonelyGuy87]

Wait wait wait. So sex is a privilage in a relaitonships but it isn't when she gets brought home by a random guy? So the random guy deserves sex right away but the guy who wants to date isn't? This ain't adding up.

[Ellie-V]

A random hookup isn’t about who deserves it or not

[LonelyGuy87]

Howcome random guys are good enough to get sex but like a guy who is willing to take her out, speding money & time on her is NOT good enough for sex? That's so unfair. The random guy gert special treatment. I swear girls are so fucked up these days - no wonder less and less guys wanna date.

[Ellie-V]

Okay. Wonderful for you. MGTOW will welcome you with open arms.

[LonelyGuy87]

I don't understand why you're making me the bad guy for pointing out how bad women are...

[Ellie-V]

No one said you were bad.

[latinabutterfly96]

He doesn’t understand the fact that girls function in this way: If he’s hot enough, but you’re not interested in dating him, you’ll fuck him. Why the hell not?
But if you’re also interested in him, it’s more serious, so you’ll behave in a more formal way because you actually have respect for him.

[Ellie-V]

Oh my lord, someone who makes sense 😅

[latinabutterfly96]

It’s different when you only want someone to “relieve yourself” with, than to think about him 24/7 and fall in love with his looks and personality.

That doesn’t him you less valuable in the least! Au contraire. It makes him more valuable than the rest.

[latinabutterfly96]

Doesn’t make him less valuable*

[Ellie-V]

Preach

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 so you give it up to the guy you don't like? So girls lie and act classy to guys they wanna date? So you're all liars then? This confirms that dating is dead.

[LonelyGuy87]

"Why not?" is how girls view sex. So what's the point in dating?

[latinabutterfly96]

@LonelyGuy87 No. we do like them in that moment, when his looks is the only important thing about him.

The guys we fall for are both things. We fall for them in a long term basis.

You need help man.

[latinabutterfly96]

@LonelyGuy87 Are you implying that sex is the only reason why you’d have a serious relationship with a girl?

That explains why you’re lonely

[Ellie-V]

This is exactly why I told you in the other question that you are DELUSIONAL BY CHOICE. Like do you ever take a moment to just reread out lout and hear yourself?

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 what else do girls bring to the table? Why date a girl who's been through 50 other fuckboys? It's like girls only use the good guys to settle with when they are done having their fun with fuckboys... it's fucking sick.

[latinabutterfly96]

@LonelyGuy87 Lmao. You are sick and need help. At this point the only reason why I pay attention to you is bc it’s amusing

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 How am I sick? Tell me what girls bring to the table then - other than cheating on you...

[latinabutterfly96]

That’s because you date manipulative girls. And guys cheat too.

A special girl in your life can bring happiness, joy, someone to share your feelings with. Someone to share your dreams with. Someone that encourages you and helps you through good and bad. Someone to have kids with. Someone to spend the rest of your life with.

It’s a partner. You make a team for life.

How is that remotely compared to having a one night stand? Please tell me

[latinabutterfly96]

You can learn from her. You teach each other things. You do stuff together. You support each other.

That is a team

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 but why do girls make the "partner" guy work for sex and stuff but give it to other guys willy nilly? That's what I don't understand. Girls should reward the good guys, not the bad ones... can we just PM?

[latinabutterfly96]

Meaningless sex isn’t a reward. Lol. Because we view meaningless sex as a one-time thing and we don’t care about the guy we’re doing it with.

That is why.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 I don't understand. Help me to understand. PM me! You said you would help me w/ anxiety as well and you haven't PM me yet...

[Ellie-V]

You need help 😂😂😂😂

[Ellie-V]

Like professional help

[LonelyGuy87]

I just don't understand. None of this makes sense to me at all.

[Ellie-V]

It’s okay that you don’t understand. So you just run along and join the MGTOW, jerk off (or be gay), and be happy 😃

[LonelyGuy87]

I am sorry if I offended any of you. If you could please PM me to help me out, I would aprreciate it. Sorry.

[Ellie-V]

You didn’t offend me. I was dead serious tho

[LonelyGuy87]

@Ellie-V There is no need to insult me and make me feel worthless. What is wrong with you?

[Ellie-V]

Where did I insult you👀

[LonelyGuy87]

Saying I need help and that I should fuck off to MGTOW or become Gay.

[Ellie-V]

Those weren’t insults. Those were serious suggestions 😂

[LonelyGuy87]

Why are you suggesting that?

[Ellie-V]

You have a problem, I’m giving you solutions. How you’re butthurt about that, I don't know. But take it for what it is. No need in getting emotional about it. No one is attacking you

[LonelyGuy87]

Could you help me out though?

[latinabutterfly96]

No ones going to help you out. It’s like bashing gay people and expecting them to talk to you. Tf.

[latinabutterfly96]

How the fuck do u expect girls to help you if they’re the people u hate. You make no sense at all man

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 I am willing to bury my opinions and be open mided about this. I haven't insulted people though.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 I don't hate women. I never said that!

[latinabutterfly96]

You’re willing to be open minded about this yet you’ve asked at least 50 questions in the past week (to which I was invited) with the same issue, despite all the attempts from people (men and women) that explain how illogical your pattern of thinking is.

You call that open minded?

[latinabutterfly96]

The only way I can explain your odd, miserable questions is that you have one of the weirdest fetishes. Getting women angry perhaps? Insulting us, or thinking that we all cheat.

That’s the only way I can explain it. Because not even trolls get this far.

[latinabutterfly96]

And obsessive.

[Ellie-V]

You won’t find it in you to actively listen to what other people have to say because you don’t really want help. You just want your speculations confirmed. You want to continue to be set in one frame of mind. If you didn’t you would actually take in what people have to say. Whenever someone presents you with real logic (on this subject) you just result to I DONT UNDERSTAND as if it’s some sort of defense mechanism. People have broken down their points of view already (including myself) and you still clam up with the same dumb line “I don’t understand”. You just want to be right 😂 therefore nobody wants to help you because you’re wrong and you’re too stubborn to see it.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 That's not true. I am scared of women and sad at the way they act - that's all it is. Please can we not just talk for a few mins? I promise and listen and keep an open mind. I'm sorry for the rash questions. That is my anxiety and low self esteem talking... I'm sorry.

[LonelyGuy87]

Please can you help me? I promise I'll listen... please.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 Why are you so mean to me? Seriously I am asking for you to be kind and maybe help me out, help me to change and understand women. Why won't you? I already said sorry, I already said I will listen and be open minded. I want to understand. And PM is easier and more direct and I would feel more calm and open minded. Why are you insluting me for trying to change and become a better person?

[latinabutterfly96]

“Oh no, help me. I need help. I’m the victim here. Sure, I said women are evil and manipulative and I hate them, BUT that’s not my fault, I just need help. I’ve insulted 3.5 billion people in the world but I still feel like I DESERVE help, oh my gawd why U so Mean?”
-LonelyGuy87

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 no, no, no. That's not how I intended it. Please just help me, I promise I will change. I will write a MyTake apologizing or update all of my questions apologizing. I don't hate women.

[Ellie-V]

Are you really 17?

[LonelyGuy87]

No. I turned 18 2 days ago. Why?

[Ellie-V]

That just makes this whole thing all the more sad and hilarious. You poor infant.

[latinabutterfly96]

Do the following steps first

1. Do the MyTake
2. Put a link to it in every one of your questions as an update
3. Don’t delete it for a week.

4. And then we’ll see if I PM you

[latinabutterfly96]

Lol!! Yeah, you’re miserable

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 are you serious? You will Pm me? The two of you are much older than me (women are also more mature, right?) so you two should help me rather than insult me.

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 wow you're not a nice person are you...

[latinabutterfly96]

Why would I be nice to a complete psycho on the internet? LOL!

[LonelyGuy87]

@latinabutterfly96 "why not"

[latinabutterfly96]

Because you’re a psycho on the internet.

[latinabutterfly96]

😂 !!

[latinabutterfly96]

LMAO. I touched a nerve 🤔🤣😝

[Nxtawm]

Hmm... this confuses the heck out of me too. I, myself, am not planning on have sex unless I'm married so no idea what those girls are thinking. I think it's cause if it's a guy they're not interested in, they'll have sex with because they're not interested, they don't think as deeply about it. While towards a guy they like, they might think that if they sleep with you early you'll think they are easy or that they don't look at you as a potential partner since they're willing to have sex with you when they barely know you. They just don't want you to have a bad opinion of them and think they sleep around because they care about your opinion of them. But for the other guys, they don't care about what those guys think so they don't hold back. It's really just over thinking. Though it's not only girls, some guys are like this too, they will sleep with random girls but when they fall in love. They want to treat the girl well and care about her opinions, they try to take it slow to not scare the girl and to show that they care about the girl. Again over thinking. But really if you love her, you shouldn't care that much about the sex. The sex isn't the reward, sex doesn't always evolve emotions, it's just a primal instinct, the actual reward is her love.

Not sure if I explained it well since I don't truly understand what's going on in their head and I'm not good at explaining, this is the best I can do. Though I agree with you, it's super confusing why they do that. Honestly I think girls should treasure their bodies more and at least enter a relationship before having sex. Same with guys too but we're all human, just stuff we do. Everyone has different views on this.

[jennifer_bloom]

I've never slept with anybody. I don't believe in sex before marriage and for the longest time I didn't even want to get married.

[LonelyGuy87]

OK. I'm just referring to most girls here. Sorry if I offended you.

[DaChillCookie]

Because, with guys I don't give a fuck about and know that they don't give a fuck about me, I skip all the love and shit to fuck and ditch em'. When it's someone I'm generally interested in, I don't fuck them after at least a year. I need to know that they want me for more than just my body, I want them to know how much I care. So I don't give it up.

[LonelyGuy87]

So you sleep with the guy who DOESN’T value you but make the guy who DOES wait? This is NOT adding up.

[DaChillCookie]

The guy who doesn't value me, can have what he wants and fuck off. The guy who values me needs to wait because he's not gonna leave me right away like the guys I fuck weekly. I need to ease into it so I can tell him about my problems (sleeping around and being an alcoholic and masochist). I just can't let him see the bruises on my body while not letting him really know me

[simplyaramdomgirl]

Because that is what establishes the difference between casual sex / hookups and a serious relationship. Not that the sex really marks anything, there are many people in serious relationships who put out in the first or second date. Most people wait to make sure that the other person is someone that they want to spend a rather long time with.

[hiimemily]

There are a lot of girls like that, and it's because they think either they're too good for a relationship, they don't want a serious thing, or they're scared. Usually one of the first two. I know that I have like a -16640074567472 self esteem or whatever, so i really do value a guy for personality. It honestly just depends on the kind of girl she is.

[latinabutterfly96]

We don’t make them wait.
A girl will have sex with a guy whenever she pleases. That’s why.

[LonelyGuy87]

You do make them wait. So let me get this straight - guys who take the time to take a girl out, spend money on her and put in effort is NOT good enough for sex. BUT a random guy from the club is good enough? So there is no point in dating girls then.

[latinabutterfly96]

You’re implying that you’d only take a girl out on a date in order to have sex with her. Which makes you as bad or worse as the bitches who use men for sex. Which means, girls can see through that. There’s your answer.

[LonelyGuy87]

Girls just use guys for sex and use good guys for relationships. So...

[latinabutterfly96]

And to you, relationships are bad?

[latinabutterfly96]

They use guys for sex and they reward good guys with relationships. We actually have respect for the good guys. The other ones are only meant for one night stands and some liquor

[LonelyGuy87]

What? That makes no sense. Good guys are "rewarded" with relationships... yeah... AFTER she's had her fun with 47 other guys - how do you see nothing wrong with that?

[latinabutterfly96]

Because there’s a reason why it’s called “meaningless” sex. BECAUSE IT IS MEANINGLESS. Relationships aren’t.

[latinabutterfly96]

Fuckboys are only seen as toys. How can you not see anything wrong with THAT?

[LonelyGuy87]

So girls have zero respect or value for men and sex? That's what you're saying right now.

[latinabutterfly96]

No I didn’t. Lmao. Fuckboys? Yes. We have zero respect for them.

MEN? Not at all.

[AquaBoo]

Most girls don't do that...

[LonelyGuy87]

Most girls don't do what?

[blackandmint]

I don’t do this. I can’t relate.

[LonelyGuy87]

Fair enough.

[bente2]

Because having sex early on is a tell-tale sign of not serious.

[Anonymous]

eh I've done both but it had nothing to do with the guy. I went through a phase where I just did not give a fuck and messed around with guys for the hell of it but I quickly grew out of it.

[Julie102]

I wouldn't make a black man to wait. He has such a enormous dick

[Anonymous]

Most girls don’t do that... that’s really mostly a movie stereotype...

[LonelyGuy87]

So what do most girls do then?

[Opinion Owner]

Tbh, most girls I know get into a relationship with someone they don’t realize is a player and then he breaks up after she gives him sex... or, they don’t get up to any of it at all

[LonelyGuy87]

Good for them. Modern women deserve that. No offense.

[Opinion Owner]

Why do you say that? I’m afraid, I do find that kinda offensive.

[LonelyGuy87]

Because they treat good guys like shit and they sleep around worse than guys.

[Opinion Owner]

Man... dude, I really do think you need to get some help... While I admit there are a few who are rude to some guys, it’s our right to reject or accept a guy. If she doesn’t like the guy, she doesn’t have to flipping date him. This does not mean she deserves to be used. That’s as backwards as “oh she’s a sex worker so she deserves it when she gets raped.” No one deserves anything—not the good, not the bad. My mum was pressured to marry both my bio and step dad and she did nothing but worship God and take care of us kids, trying so hard to make ends meet, be obiedient, and fix the stupid problems both men created. know what happened? She got physically and emotionally abused. Know what else happened? My bio dad left her for a fourteen year old girl. She stayed with him for seven flipping years trying to be a good wife to the idiot of a man and he initiated divorce after beating her and cheating on her with every woman that passed by so he really get it on with a 14 year old.

[Opinion Owner]

I’m done taking stupidity from men. Yeah, I am sorry you feel the way you do. But I’m not sorry for being a feminist. You treat a girl like you deserve her respect, she deserves the right to do you dirty. So, some girls make mistakes about what a guy is really like. That ain’t her problem—that’s y’alls problem. Guys, step up to the plate and be better men. I’ve literally come to the point in my life where I’d rather live the life of a nun with a golden retriever than put up with any of the trash men dish out.

[Opinion Owner]

While I agree with most of what I said, Please forgive anything that seems aimed at you... I didn’t mean this as a personal rant at you—it’s been a stressful day.

[mishanw_1071]

You’re forgetting that there’s a difference between a relationship and a quick fuck

[LonelyGuy87]

Yeah I know - why do women have less respect for the relationship guy?

[mishanw_1071]

They don’t have less respect, they just want to make sure you don’t just want sex and not a relationship. by the way you sound like you are bitter cuz you can’t get laid...

[LonelyGuy87]

Not bitter at all. I am just never gonna date a woman. I have respect for myself.

[mishanw_1071]

Mkay, have fun dating men or non-binary

[LonelyGuy87]

"dating"? Who dates? LOL. Girls will fuck right away so I can just go around fucking hundreds of girls... thank you very much!!!

[mishanw_1071]

goodluck

[Jessgem]

Maybe she doesn't want a relationship based on sex

[Pink2000]

I dont do that