Fetuses can feel pain at 18 weeks. Many states allow for abortion up to week 25, others have no limit. Here’s an abortion Dr describing the process of a 2nd trimester fetus. Understand that many fetus feel the pain of this experience.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/OZXQBhTszpUOf course. Some morons don't get protected because you can always kill a baby and they do it without any regrets. Multiple times. Sad that you in the West are such immoral.
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I've never been pregnant, don't plan to get pregnant and would never want to ever have to make this decision but I imagine termination of pregnancy is really hard. We shouldn't judge. You can have personal opinions but don't make others feel bad. We don't know why someone terminates and it's not a black and white scenario either. Free contraceptives to all, mandatory comprehensive sex education, better wages and employment stability, free childcare, lower cost of living and universal healthcare and more paid parental leave are going to be significantly more helpful in reducing abortion rates rather than just shaming people that get them anyway. Regardless of opinion, termination of pregnancy should always be safe and legal. By making it not so, you remove the option of a safe abortion and people go to great lengths to get them illegally. I live in a country where it's completely legal and available to those that seek it. I certainly don't like to think about the idea of termination but I do support people having that decision accessible to them.
I am reading several posts complaining about how horrible it is to be a child within a foster care system. Guess what? Those kids may end up butt raped in those homes Monday through Friday of every week in the year. They may end up as run aways and on the street; selling their ass. But, Jesus already died for our sins and we are all new in Christ. There are many stories of people saving themselves from these horrible situation and rise up in their lives. There are many stories of people forgiving their parents for abandoning them and grateful to their mother for putting them into the foster care system versus aborting them. Just brutally killing children because it will make your life too difficult is an unacceptable call. In my mind, it is murder, plain and simple. If your mom had not had mercy in her heart for you, you would not EXIST to be on social media today... attempting to normalize abortion and to convince women that killing babies is acceptable.
Hey, if my mum didn't want me that would have been fine. I'm out here working 2 jobs to survive. Not being brought in to consciousness would have been fine by me lol.
Fair enough. But, that's you. Others yet to be born do not have to assume your attitude about their fate.
And neither do pregnant people who wish to terminate. As I said, you're free to have your opinion, but everyone is still able to make different choices.
Okay.
If you want to make a worthwhile difference, start campaigning for free birth control to all, free healthcare globally, free childcare and paid maternity leave, etc. That's what will make a difference. I never ever plan to ever have kids, I also never want to get pregnant. Women should also be able to access sterilisation services if they want to. Have your opinion, but also actually try and find helpful solutions to curb the demand for abortion. Removing safe access abortions only makes people do botched back alley ones instead. It doesn't actually remove the reasons why many people do get them. End of the day, you are as much entitled to have your opinion as other people are to have theirs and make these decisions.
The joys of posting this stuff Anon, it does not say what country you are in.
Have a look at your country, county, state etc and see how many people are in the foster / care system.
Now have you kids?
if not is it not selfish that you personally have not adopted a child.
If you have kids, it’s obviously also selfish that you have not adopted another child.
If you have kids, why did you as a couple not adopt a child from the care system, surely that’s selfish as you knew there care system in your country is struggling.
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Why have you not adopted a child, you are being selfish
I won't say why someone chooses to do it the first time is selfish or not, we never know their reasons. If they are using it as a form of birth control, then yes. I say that is selfish, those women who have had multiple abortions cause they are too lazy to get a IUD or use BC or make him wear a condom, etc...
Truth is though, most do not use it repeatedly over and over as a form of birth control.
I understand what you are saying though, there is a huge waiting list, give or take of 2 to 3 years in the US to adopt newborns. No one is ever forced to raise a child they do not want.
There is nothing new under the Sun as the Old Testament tribes and people groups killed there babies too…as offering to their god
-Is there any other explanation except we are a fallen, sinful, and totally depraved people group focused totally on what’s best for Self in this world.-that we are our own god…Self is god.
-Without apology and in the name of personal liberty, boy/girl create life, torture life, and kill life. There are numerous cases, even after baby was aborted, where baby continued to thrive/live. And these reports are from nurses in abortion clinics…mostly former abortive staff members.
-Personal choice is secondary to murder. Because one doesn’t like their situation or Person DOES NOT GIVE ONE CIVIL LIBERTY TO KILL‼️
/we all now innately given an intelligently designed Morality that abortion is wrong. Murder is wrong no matter how you want to classify so that one can do or support abortion.
I don’t give two shits if a woman aborts simply cuz she doesn’t want a kid. It doesn’t affect you. Everytime a woman gets an abortion do you know? No. Because why? You don’t know them. Doesn’t affect you.
Seems rather short-sighted to serve The Devil and end human lives randomly and at a whim just because you can. Some of these people you're killing might have provided a cure to cancer or to other horrors that humankind currently faces. Sort of like throwing away what you consider to be a pail of dirt when, in actuality, that "dirt" is chock full of diamonds.
Do you foster? Have you adopted children? Do you vote for policies against free child care? Do you donate to mothers in need? Do you donate to charity? Do you feed the homeless? If you don’t, shut the fuck up. You don’t care about the fucking bAbIeS you care about control. I don’t give a fuck if she wanna kill it, too bad so sad
Yes I do, actually. To all of the pro-life causes that you've mentioned. You don't know me. Why don't you shut the fuck up and get off of this question, troll?
Godless baby killers like you deserve a super hot place in Hell for all eternity.
Why don’t you shut the fuck up? You asked I answered. I don’t care. If the “baby” cannot breathe on its own it isn’t a baby. If you feel this way for religious reasons it’s also dumb. God was the most pro life person of all. He forced women to abort their babies if it was proven they cheated. He literally fled the world which I’m sure there was children and unborn children on it and got his son nailed to a fuckin cross. If a woman cannot have a baby for whatever reason, that is her choice. If it was murder, it would be illegal. It isn’t. It’s a woman’s right.
So you a dumb fuck sky daddy worshipper is like the least people I respect. I hope any woman who doesn’t want a little snot filled shit baby they don’t have one :(
Too bad your Mom didn't view abortion like you.
Actually, you don’t know my life. I wish your mom aborted the fuck out of you. World would be a BETTER place. Next time read the Bible you’ll see how shit your logic is
I wish your mom took out the trash and flushed you down the toilet bowl.
Awe did a get a Christian mad? I’m so sad
Hindsight being 20/20, some people "don't" need to be here.
Yay! So you are pro choice!
Hitler, Jeffery Dahmer, you...
I am pro-Choice if it can be proven conclusively that the individual will turn out to be a POS creature like you who spends their worthless life advocating for the murder of countless innocent babies.
Look pro lifey you asked a question don’t get pissy that people don’t agree. Your opinion doesn’t matter. A woman will get one anyway with or without medical help
So like I said. I don’t give a fuck if you think I’m a piece of shit for not making women give up their bodies. If you care so much go to the police and report it, oh wait it’s not illegal
Now, go report me and my responses to you, itch. Snitch to the mods how I told you that your mom should have aborted you when that's all you've been banging your drum about... indiscriminate abortion. Snitch to the mods about how I told you to shut the fuck up after you told me this. GTFO my question, troll.
Girl no one cares if a anonymous cunt told me my mom should’ve aborted me and then protests that abortion is wrong like girl get a life
You’re the troll. Fetuses die every fucking day. It’s life. It’s sad. But it’s true. You can’t stop it.
Like you’re the butt hurt bitch boo boo crying anonymously
Bitch please. Just because you snagged some random picture off The Internet does not mean jack to anyone with a brain. Is "babybunny06" your legal name? POFS
Girl you want my legal name? And it’s Not a random picture you white bitch it’s a singer. Talk to me about uneducated LOL
What is your real name?
All I know is you’re a sad bitch who probably is infertile and can’t have kids and wanna force others to cuz ya can’t. So I don’t really care. Abortions will not stop cuz anonymous “Asker” said for them to or doesn’t like them
Whats yours love?
Post your real picture versus the picture of a celebrity. Stupid bitch. Calling other people trolls because they don't post pictures of dead Latin American popstars as their profile picture. LOL. You are so fucking dumb. Did I tell you my race? No, stupid.
Don’t be anonymous girly. If you want my face why don’t you show yours? Like someone’s really mad they can’t see my cute ass face. Sounds like a fan
All I know is I’m awesome, you’re an infertile old bitch, and again, I’m awesome. Oh and abortion will never stop
Keeps me going! You have a awesome night, Lydia. I’m going to call you Lydia
I have to go because I have things to do tomorrow cuz I wasn’t aborted
Well? Everyone is waiting for you, Your Highness, to post your real picture and your real name for all to see. Until you do that, you are a fucking hypocrite and a fucking dumb troll.
Yes. I am whatever you want me to be. I love this so much
If you’re mad you’re infertile that’s okay, just adopt :)! I hope you have a great night my love
Running away, you anonymous bitch? Got too real for you? Don't come for me unless you can go all the way.
No love. Unlike some of us, we aren’t chronically online and have to go ni ni cuz we got our REAL lives to live you know? Gotta be up at 4 for my run then going out. Sorry I can’t talk tonight but def Can continue when I’m not busy. Sorry my life isn’t online but will get back def when I can. Like I apologize you can’t have kids so your life is real empty but I got friends and commitments. Please try to make some for yourself!
Who started this shit, you dumb bitch? LOL
The next time you post on my questions, have your real picture and your real name displayed, troll.
Yes but Atlas I sadly have to end it for the night. Doing my night time tea routine and then hitting then can cuz I’m on a strict schedule. I really wish I could stay and chat, but you give me nothing like I don't know substantial? Like you’re mad that you don’t have a genuine argument so you feel as tho since you’re mad you can throw insults, which you know nothing about me. My life is just beginning yours has probably ended. So I can’t stay and chat because I have a lot of life to live and only have 1 hr of free time especially with my debate team and stuff. I am sorry you’re mad that I am young and can have babies but choose not to! I generally hope you find some happiness love cuz you seem real bitter but I don’t want to be bitter cuz I got a lot of love in my life, so you girly just keep pushing! Promises it gets better! It’s almost 8:30 so I gotta get ready , good night love and get some sleep! (You need the beauty rest)
Next time you have a question use your real profile! I am obvi going to answer any anonymous’ bitches question lol that’s what the app is for!
We can go forever, bitch. Saving the lives of innocent babies from demons like you is worth it, you fucking creature.
Slither back into the bowels of Hell from whence you came, you abortion monster.
Yeah no I’m definitely good. Us arguing isn’t going to save innocent “babies” cuz bitch if a woman want an abortion she gonna have one. Hanger or stairs choose your pick. I don’t have forever cuz again (I got ten minutes until 8:30 cuz I have a LIFE) and you? That’s sad you can go forever I feel genuinely bad. Goodnight
Tomorrow I’m going to take 6 friends to suck the babie parts from her uterus
Busy day, gotta go, but seriously please get a life. This whole “go forever thing” sad. This will be my last reply until next time probably Tuesday night is when I marked down my free time!
LOL... You could be 90 years old, you dumb bitch. Who knows? You haven't posted your real picture or your real name.
It ran away XD
Have fun at the Bingo tournament at the senior citizen's center, you dumb old bitch, and stay off of The Internets granny. LOL
Why it still posting? Thought it had such a busy and vibrant life to live?
DUMB OLD BITCH TROLL... loooooooooool
"Tomorrow I’m going to take 6 friends to suck the babie parts from her uterus"
YEP. CUZ THAT'S WHAT OLD WITCH HAGS DO WHEN THEY WORSHIP SATAN.
Get a better life, you old, dumb bitch. LOL
@babybunny06 But it shouldn't be her entitlement to have the government (other's tax money) pay for her abortion.
yea lots of stupid selfish young girls in our generation. i blame bad parenting. no moral education. all "me me me" all the time
Exactly. As a female, I wonder about the sanity of MANY women... how they can have this amoral disconnect from the act of abortion as if they are just getting their teeth cleaned. If they are using it as a form of birth control, they should be brought up on murder charges. However, if they "must" do it for some medical reason involving themselves or the child I can understand. Or, if they are doing it because they have been sexually assaulted, I can more readily support and sympathize with their decision to end their child's life. However, I do not believe in late stage abortions if the child is healthy, regardless of how that child was created.
a 2008 paper by princeton called "the paradoxical decline in female happiness" showed that the more women get into the modern workforce the less happy they are.
the more they get with feminism. the sadder they become
Because there are enough children in the foster care system that already need to be adopted, then don't need more.. That can't even keep the kids that are already in the system safe.
One could argue that it is selfish not to adopt...
Here's another related question:
At which point in its existence is a human being no longer viewed as a "thing" without rights which can be killed at the druthers of it's mother?
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Apparently not even as an adult because in a lot of places an ectopic pregnancy which is essentially a death sentence for the woman and the fetus, and they made it illegal to terminate an ectopic pregnancy which doesn't even have the ability grow to full term. What about the life of a 12 year old girl who was raped and impregnated by a family member? What about the risk that poses to her life?
Every year across the world 287,000 women die in pregnancy and childbirth. That’s one woman dying every 2 minutes, 800 each day. What about their lives?
To be clear: "I" am not pushing the notion that abortions are questionable in "every"' circumstance. My original question implied that some women are using abortions as a form of birth control because they are too lazy, stupid, evil, and/or selfish to prevent their pregnancy in the first place. This is 2022 and there are a plethora of excellent contraception options available to every woman on the planet regardless of their socioeconomic status.
This country (the United States of America) does not make children a priority... especially children of color. There are more abortion clinics in black neighborhoods than anywhere else. That's not an accident. Our country could easily build and finance the infrastructure to safeguard and to properly raise more American children who are orphans. It just doesn't have the political wil to do so, for some weird reason. I am sure that the abortion lobby is involved in stonewalling any agenda to save the lives of these children.
*political will
Normally people don't just get pregnant on purpose to have an abortion. I unintentionally got pregnant when I was 19 years old because contraception failed. The truth is that sex education in this country is horrific, and there are a lot of teenagers who don't even have a good understanding of how their own bodies work let alone the opposite gender. For the people who are pro life, and want to be activists for it, they should focus on the core issue and not the symptom. Make conception birth control free for those who want it. Doctors should stop putting up road blocks making it extremely difficult for young women to get their tubes tied if they want to. Men who don't want to sire children should always wear a condom, or they should get their tubes tied. In a lot of places, there are not easy or affordable options for contraception, and employers are able to deny birth control on the heath insurance that they provide because of moral reasons. A lot of parents peach abstinence instead of actually educating their children about sexual and reproductive heath and science.
I agree with everything you just said except for the scarcity of contraception products. There are free clinics in most states in the U. S. that provide these to the public for, well, free. If you are in some place that is inaccessible from a nearby city, you can order free condoms online here:
https://www.heyitsfree.net/free-condoms/
Then there is the plethora of issues that come along with hormonal contraception like, an increased risk for stroke, blood clots, heart attack, menstrual irregularities, spotting, weight gain, depression, nausea, certain cancers, UTIs, mood swings, yeast infections, tumors, hypertension, gall bladder disease, irreversible osteoporosis, head aches, worsened cramps and breast tenderness, acne, and a drop in libido.
Acne is and a drop in one's libido is hardly life-threatening. You seem to want ZERO problems for sexually active women who are prescribed various forms of contraception. There is one way to stop having these dreadful symptoms... KEEP. YOUR. LEGS. CLOSED.
*side-effects
Less than 1% of abortions have anything to do with the "rape and incest" argument, at least in the United States; it is almost ENTIRELY about irresponsibility and selfishness.
Yup.
I notice too that a lot of pro-abortion people will try to remark that being pregnant is some dangerous condition, like as if we're in the 1800's or something.
Planned Parenthood disguising themselves in an ice cream truck (complete with ice cream truck music).
There’s over 400k kids in foster care. How bout you worry about them instead of judging someone for doing what they feel is right for themselves.
doing what they feel is right "for themselves".
Hence... abortions for selfish reasons...
Why don't you dumb females use proper contraception and stop adding to the surplus population versus advocating to murder the innocent children that you carelessly create? How about that?
like I said. Worry about yourself.
Damn your foster children must love you so much 😂
Why don't you take your own damn advice and stop preaching to people who want to protect children from monsters like you? Worry about your own string of abortions (murders).
https://dictionary.cambridge.org › us › dictionary › English › monster
monster noun [ C ] us / ˈmɑn·stər / monster noun [C] (CREATURE) any imaginary frightening creature, esp. one that is large and strange monster noun
[C] (EVIL PERSON) a person who does very cruel and evil acts: To the whole world, he was a monster.
monster adjective [ not gradable ] us / ˈmɑn·stər / monster adjective [not gradable] (BIG)
Probably because pregnancy and childbirth is difficult and giving a child up for adoption isn’t nearly as easy as people try to make it seem.
We are over 8billion humans, and you call people not having kids selfish? isn't it the opposite? We keep overpopulating this world. Now that sounds selfish to me. Logical speaking.
You proved the contention, Selfish. What’s irrational and nonsensical is choosing Population over Murder. If I shot you, your kid, or parent dead, in the name of overpopulation (China and Russia), THEN by your logic I’m justified. I bet you would cry Foul…characterize what I did as “wrong or not good”. To the contrary killing off your family was a “good deed” as it reduced the global population. You are no different than oligarch or Putin in that you keep the RICHES OF LIFE to yourself. Hey Putin is lowering world population right now SO obviously following your self-described logical thinking you are a Putin supporter…. of the same cloth as Putin and Xi,
Liberals in the US think its under populated, they want to pay people to have kids. If it is truly over populated there would be no tax credits or deductions for kids and a flat tax. You have kids at your own cost, not subsidized by tax payers.
@Guy13 Nobody is shooting nobody. Wtf? I said logical, not my logics. Destroying this planet for our own selfish reasons, is selfish. And you don't even know anything about the person's life that's doing the abortion. And it takes about 2 weeks before it has a heart beat. Then by "your logic" masterbation is killing millions and billions of babies every day..
@Cubus since I was born we went from 4billion to 8 billion. and next generation will be at what 16 billion people? Yes done of these countries overpopulate more than others. But people were born to breed before,. Now we have a choice. No need to follow these religious crap if you do not want to. It's called freedom. We need less , or else this planet wil. End up not being able to supply our selfish demands.
Contraception can thin the herd as well as abortion can. Why not use some contraception to prevent some unwanted pregnancies (unwanted people) versus unnnecessarily slaughtering children?
THIS, is my whole point.
Does it honestly matter? Those who are against abortions will think any reason is selfish. They can do what they like for whatever reason.
Yes. It honestly does matter. If your mommy had snatched you out of her womb with a wire clothes hook, you wouldn't be smarting off now about how someone else's life doesn't really matter.
@SnakeBoop Einstein... This post was list in the Girl's Behavior section of GAG. That means that I am interested in the feedback of females. If you feel attacked, its because you are insecure about your responses to my questions.
Just because you don't care about your own life doesn't give you carte blanche to take out the unborn.
Wow. What an ugly, demonic generation! After y'all kill up all the babies, what will your futures look like?
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This has been awarded accordingly.
@Agape93 Is that a Free Mason's symbol?
Pagan shit... lol
pitiful
Explains why you've got problems...
Then why not adopt the hundreds of thousands of kids still in foster care or adoption agencies who want a loving home first or do we stop caring once they are no longer babies?
The point is that once a someone becomes a "person", others (including the parents) do not get to decide to kill it. Sexual intercourse is serious business. It's how people are made. LOL Some people just can't wrap their heads around this fact. If you don't want to create another person and have to make tough decisions, take strong precautions not to conceive.
Many straight men and women just like to fucking without consequences more than saving any life babies that they create. I would strongly urge these type of people to get fixed temporarily or permanently.
*just like to fuck
Girls Ask Guys add a damn edit feature to these post! DAMN.
Buh---buh--boolshit. If your mom came for you with a clothes hanger hook, you wouldn't have appreciated that, would you? Now that you've been here a number of years and you consider yourself a real person, you are going to now stand at the portal of life and try to influence who gets to come in. Sad and unaware.
Again, I am on the side that isn't ok with, but I am not standing in the way of those who are. If you are not only standing in the way, but trying to legislate it too, then you are self righteous and think you know better than others, but your opinion on the matter is just that, an opinion.
That's your opinion. Have a nice day, love.
@The1Girl
Here's another related question:
At which point in its existence is a human being no longer viewed as a "thing" without rights which can be killed at the druthers of it's mother?
I will answer for myself on that question and The1Girl can answer as well.
When the baby can survive on it's own outside the womb without a dependency on the mother's body. Roughly about 22 weeks in. Before that, it is part of the mother's body and her decision on what she wants to do with it. After that, she had her chance to do what she wanted and abortions should then be limited to emergency medical need only.
No, any reason is valid. Because it is her choice. This world abuses children so much, still considers abortion a crime. Stop the hipocresy
Depends on how many women have abortions for unselfish reasons 🤷♂️
Horseshit. There are tons of kids in foster care waiting to be adopted.
If anything too many people are having kids for the wrong reasons. There are thousands of kids in adoption agencies waiting.
Here's another related question:
At which point in its existence is a human being no longer viewed as a "thing" without rights which can be killed at the druthers of it's mother?
That is true, the real problem is there is a huge waiting list (2 to 3 years) for newborns, cause people do not want to adopt a teenager or older child who came from a broken home. Too many give birth, try to raise a child, fail and give it up later, or have it taken away. When they should of given it up for adoption at birth.
I would never say that people should adopt a child they don't think they can handle. I think it is a good thing that people are not adopting the ones currently in foster care out for that reason. They know they cannot handle them. That would be worse for the children than what they've already been through.
no. they can have an abortion if that's what they want.
Here's another related question:
At which point in its existence is a human being no longer viewed as a "thing" without rights which can be killed at the druthers of it's mother?
*its
All abortion are selfish reasons
Isn't every reason a selfish reason?
ANY deliberate abortion is a selfish act.
Yeah
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