Just an observation I've made?

[jeffiner]

I have been reading questions and responses throughout this platform and one thing that I have noticed is that men are just as supportive of other men as women are of women with one MAJOR difference..
Women support women by attacking men as a whole. The amount of anger and hurt from past rejections and heartaches shines through stronger than the support that they are trying to give. Almost every single response is compared to a past experience of theirs, therefore, [in her head] it validates that all men are the same so the advice that she is giving is sound, just and relevant.
Men however support other men by boosting self-confidence. They don't generalize women as all being b****** or gold diggers or power hungry and mean. They actually support by boosting confidence! 💜 they reassure each other that they are good looking and they don't bullshit either, if they feel like somebody needs to lose some weight, then they say that but they say it and then give a compliment!! 🤓 so they'll say "maybe you are a little overweight but you're super handsome. just lose those couple pounds of fat and, man, every woman will be all over you! You're made up of what's considered a hunk."
That is being supportive!
If women could support other women by giving them a compliment for every constructive criticism that they have, and more importantly could support women and not bash men while doing so, then women would probably be happy like men, in general, are.
Women wouldn't walk around with these attitudes of 'all men are pigs', 'all of them will cheat', 'none of them can tell the truth', 'none of them can keep their eyes to themselves'etc., if instead they stopped blaming men as though women never have anything to do with the problem and actually focused on uplifting the woman's confidence.

[NamerOfStars]

You're not wrong. There are two main reasons for it: the biological, and the cultural. Now, the nature of everything in the world is either determined by the metarealities surrounding it, or determined by will and simply vastly *influenced* by the metarealities surrounding it- you can't escape your origins completely, and so there's not a firm dividing line between biology and culture, as different as they can be.

What sets humans apart from the other great apes, from a social perspective, is that our adult males work together to a degree unimaginable in those species. We posture and bluster, but it's rare for struggles of dominance to end in violence, and even rarer for it to be lethal. And when it's over, it's OVER. By contrast, women don't openly struggle against each other- but they gossip and snipe and sabotage. Look at a story- any of the stories- about a woman who gets fed up with men in the office and starts a company staffed entirely by women, thinking that'll solve all the problems. Someone tries this every few years, and it always ends the same way. It turns out that women are just as human as men are (gosh, who would've thought?), and no more abstractly ideal in behavior.

The other aspect is a fundamental social division: men get respect, women get empathy. While this, like most instinctive thought patterns, can be overcome on an individual level, you can't change it in a society, and need to work around or compensate for it. See, usually it's just an annoyance, but sometime's it's actively detrimental- no shortage of mental health damage on either side- and sometimes it's immediately harmful: the primary reason domestic violence is so horrifyingly high among lesbian couples and vanishingly rare among gay guys is that women being violent isn't taken seriously; they're not respected even as criminals.

Add to this a society that sees women typically failing to achieve all that their male counterparts do, and so disadvantages men to give the women a leg up, and it's not to predict what happens. I've said it before and I'll say it again: too many princesses, not enough philosopher queens.

[jeffiner]

Beautifully said! 👏. I was going to make some of the same points (though not spoken as well lol) but thought they were deeper than I was trying to go with my observation. Thank you 💜

[NamerOfStars]

You're welcome. Just remember that it's not going to be a POPULAR thing to say; most people nowadays either want to hear that men and women are functionally identical (which is obviously not true) or so radically different that we should just "stay in our respective lanes" (which, while a matter of opinion, is also something I'd argue against). The best way to view these roles and the associated stereotypes is as being DEscriptive, not PROscriptive.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Woah... I just had flashbacks of every time I've butted heads with the angry feminist types. Obviously, I'm more of the troll type, so I'll say something that's a little off and then they'll all pile in trying to take a jab at me... the usual shit, like calling me a fag or I can't get laid or whatever nonsense. I talk trash to a dude and the dude himself is probably going to make a joke about it and laugh it off. Shit most of the time dudes just own it. Chicks do too... but oh damn, when the femdom brigade starts... it's noticeable. The chicks fly in to call me a super fag that can't get laid. It's retarded because I'll point out that they obviously hate gays and then they'll get all supportive of gays all of a sudden. It's like "hey retard, you were just calling me that as a slure... wtf?"

But I'm a troll... you know I love it.

[jeffiner]

I thought that being a troll implied getting attacked because of doing some attacking? Don't they just go hand in hand?
So unless you are being facetious in answering the way that you did, I'm not quite sure that I am understanding the reasoning behind your comment..
Are you agreeing that women seem to blame men for things that go wrong but missing my point of it being the wrong way too support other women?
Are you just listing an example of women blaming men all while forgetting but I was talking about women doing that in support of other women?
Were you being facetious and that you give an example of women doing it even though you "as a troll" initiated it?
I'm not disagreeing with your comment I'm just trying to understand the point of it in relation to my observation..

[D_Bone_Steak]

I had no point... just agreed with you, and with a mini-example of me dealing with it.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Notice I couldn't answer each question directly... they're all loaded. Loaded questions... like, agreeing with one thing means accepting guilt or blame of something else and fuck that. I'm just pointing that out... those loaded questions are very womanish of you.

[D_Bone_Steak]

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[jeffiner]

Lolol womanish of me? .. I like that.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Thank you. This is proof that dealing with a troll either ends in laughs and giggles or... the bullshit I was talking about.

[Anonymous]

I would not agree that men don't generalize women as all being bitches and gold diggers or power hungry and mean. If you spend any time on GAG you know some do.

I would also not agree that men are all about building up other men. Some men are very derogatory to other men.

But I will agree that a lot of women tend to generalize and blame all men for their problems. I see it a lot actually, and it's always the ones who complain about men generalizing women. Hypocrite much?

[jeffiner]

I can agree that a lot of guys are in fact derogatory towards other men and I can agree that there are men out there that generalize women as being gold diggers and bit©he's. My point I guess wasn't made as clear as I thought. ..
As I stated in my OP, while looking around here, on GAG, I have seen more posts where men are expressing concerns involving self confidence and the comments from other men are supportive in nature. They reassure one another with a sincere compliment and at the same time point out

[jeffiner]

something that can be done to help boost confidence. I'm not seeing comments that are blaming women or accusing all of them of being shallow and or gold diggers so they need to ignore the women who are rejecting them. (And usually men will say 'some' women when they do refer to them as gold diggers, bit©he's etc.)
Women on the other hand leave comments blaming 'all' men and telling her that she's better off without him because she's perfect just the way she is. Or that it's typical of men to not do this or always do that.
That's NOT supportive for women to say that to other women. How you ask? Because it's not encouraging her to be more confident, it's encouraging her to have a negative outlook on relationships and men, in turn, that only builds more self- pity and that is what keeps women down. They look in the mirror and feel one way, but then listen to women say that they are perfect when, in fact, they don't feel like they are. That's not supportive.
You are a woman, does it REALLY make you feel better when your girlfriend's tell you it's all HIS fault because he's a man so he will never understand? And if you answer yes to that, then my next question is, how has every relationship afterward been for you? Were they all the same in the end?
Women hold onto all of their past heartbreaks bringing all of it to the next relationship for the new guy to have to try and mend. They do that because women are constantly telling each other that all men are the same.
With guys they feel like there's a fine line between what they can and can't say in order to not make it uncomfy for everyone involved. But they know that, so they respect that.

[Guy13]

Lovely. You’re hired. Extraordinary intuition, depth of thought, and clear expressions. Wish I could right like that…

And no spelling mistrikes 💪…. “Get it” misstrikes

[jeffiner]

Thank you Guy13. Would you say that you agree with my observation and or my advice or would you say that you disagree with my observation and or disagree with my advice?

[Guy13]

I think some of the women are simply angry as it relates to topic of Respect. Today, I had one adult (30 plus) respond to a post with, “that makes no fucking sense.” It does NOT bother BUT it confirms:

Women are more emotional and every time they over sexualize themselves, over attack/verbalize, overthink and judge they become easier to dismiss. That’s the Actuals…. It does not gain Respect

There are better ways…

[HighValue]

The media, social media, TV, and movies constantly tell women that all men are bad too. It is a constant theme almost every day. The ones that fall for the lies end up wasting their time instead of trying to find a good one. Such a shame.

[Anonymous]

"Women support women by attacking men as a whole"

"... if instead they stopped blaming men as though women never have anything to do with the problem and actually focused on uplifting the woman's confidence"

Sooooooo true!

[KittyBox]

The whole cheating aspect, lies, and inability to listen isn't just a male thing, it's something people will do, both men and women, it just depends on their integrity as a person.

[MrCommodore]

Great observation, really good post.

[jeffiner]

Thank you MrCommodore

[TrillXHippy]

Right on 🥹💯

[jeffiner]

Thank you TrillXHippy

[TrillXHippy]

You’re welcome @jeffiner