technically they don't like getting mistreated but feminists have lied to women for so long about every guy being an abusive asshole that it's almost expected that he is an abusive asshole. she'll consistently go for these abusive assholes believing that it's the normal thing to do and is ever rarely shocked by this. on the flip side, if he's not an abusive asshole, she'll either dump him or she'll cause a scene that tries to get him to become an abusive asshole, she'll do this by emasculating him, openly flirting with other guys, use his emotions against him, cheat on him etc. anything to piss him until he becomes that abusive asshole
@melanieeeB "real feminists" haven't existed since the end of 2nd wave feminism. the most current and numerous iteration of feminists are 3rd and 4th wave feminists, you know the ones who defend trans athletes competing in women's sports, trans people entering women's bathrooms? the ones who are marching for fat acceptance, slut walk and free the nipple?
if there are "real feminists" out there (if you believe someone like Christina Hoff Sommers is a real feminist), they aren't doing a great job at making themselves known.
But some people (also men) had awful childhoods and find themselves in old comfort zones, plus not nothing that this isn't love... they might stuck in an awful "relationship" and it's hard for them to get out but not impossible... is it all tho? Hell no, thankfully not but with everything in life we hear more about the bad things, cause the ones who are happy don't have to complain loudly.
No one wants to be mistreated. Having low self worth, growing up watching dysfunction etc distorts what you think you deserve and what you’re willing to tolerate
But it’s not just what they tolerate…it’s what they seek. And a damaged person like this, if you treat them too well, they actually will be pushed away. I’m serious, I’ve seen it
Yes unhealed people self sabotage but I’m talking about deep down no one wants that. As sad as it is for a lot of people dysfunction is their comfortable state if that’s all they’ve known and healthy relations are uncomfortable. You learn how to love by how your parents loved you and the adults relationships you were exposed to, if those relationships are filled with betrayal, emotional abuse, neglect etc you need to re-learn how to love and most people don’t do that so they continue in a cycle of hurting themselves and others
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technically they don't like getting mistreated but feminists have lied to women for so long about every guy being an abusive asshole that it's almost expected that he is an abusive asshole. she'll consistently go for these abusive assholes believing that it's the normal thing to do and is ever rarely shocked by this. on the flip side, if he's not an abusive asshole, she'll either dump him or she'll cause a scene that tries to get him to become an abusive asshole, she'll do this by emasculating him, openly flirting with other guys, use his emotions against him, cheat on him etc. anything to piss him until he becomes that abusive asshole
Nah you're talking about pseudo feminists or fake feminists and there I agree but not the real feminists.
@melanieeeB "real feminists" haven't existed since the end of 2nd wave feminism. the most current and numerous iteration of feminists are 3rd and 4th wave feminists, you know the ones who defend trans athletes competing in women's sports, trans people entering women's bathrooms? the ones who are marching for fat acceptance, slut walk and free the nipple?
if there are "real feminists" out there (if you believe someone like Christina Hoff Sommers is a real feminist), they aren't doing a great job at making themselves known.
We don't, who likes being disrespected?
But some people (also men) had awful childhoods and find themselves in old comfort zones, plus not nothing that this isn't love... they might stuck in an awful "relationship" and it's hard for them to get out but not impossible... is it all tho? Hell no, thankfully not but with everything in life we hear more about the bad things, cause the ones who are happy don't have to complain loudly.
No one wants to be mistreated. Having low self worth, growing up watching dysfunction etc distorts what you think you deserve and what you’re willing to tolerate
i dont know I've met a lot of girls that wanted me to mistreat them so I've left them.
But it’s not just what they tolerate…it’s what they seek. And a damaged person like this, if you treat them too well, they actually will be pushed away. I’m serious, I’ve seen it
@Shamalien true. I've seen it a lot. its actually disturbing.
Yes unhealed people self sabotage but I’m talking about deep down no one wants that. As sad as it is for a lot of people dysfunction is their comfortable state if that’s all they’ve known and healthy relations are uncomfortable. You learn how to love by how your parents loved you and the adults relationships you were exposed to, if those relationships are filled with betrayal, emotional abuse, neglect etc you need to re-learn how to love and most people don’t do that so they continue in a cycle of hurting themselves and others
“I’m talking about deep down no one wants that.”
True. That’s why I leave.
Good on you it’s not your job to fix others if they aren’t willing to put the work in themselves. But to say they want it is foolishness
Well if they ask for it? What else am I supposed to say?
@smashleyy want it may be the wrong word, but they do seek it out, and you won’t tell me they don’t