Do you believe girls mature faster?

[_Maya_]

I am not talking physically. We all know that in general girls develop physically earlier than guys do. I mean the mental matureness.

Yes.

No.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Not really. Socially, yea girls are way smarter and more mature. I don't know about much else. I think so much less is expected from them that it makes them seem more mature. Both genders do stupid things for sure but at least the guys seem to at least understand when they're being reckless.

A good example which I think illustrates my point would be some of the car trouble kids I went to school with had.

There were dudes getting into trouble crashing their cars trying to drive too fast or show off. Which is fairly immature for sure. But what about all the ladies who got into car accidents which almost always involved another car, rarely included speeding or peer pressure or anything other than just not paying attention to the task at hand.

2 girls I went to school with flipped their jeeps over and knowing them, I have no doubt that one was on FaceTime and the other I know for a fact had been drinking that night, was listening to loud music and wasn't listening to her friends telling her to slow down when the tires started lifting off.

If you ask me, there's a big difference in terms of maturity between getting hurt from something stupid that you were peer pressured into or you felt like you had to, and getting hurt doing something stupid because you just weren't thinking about anything.

And the biggest difference to me is that the guys would at least be embarrassed after. They'd say it was their fault, they would talk to their friends about what they're going to do next time. " oh, I guess I can't go that fast" "he had a nicer car, I really shouldn't have gunned it through that bend" and they'll know deep down that they should probably just not put themselves in that situation or at least learn more about cars so the chances of that happening again are lower.

What did the girls do when something like that happened? They blamed it on anything they could. "well, the tires were bald and that's why it flipped over" "she was rushing me" "my boyfriend pissed me off" "I don't know cars like that"

I remember thinking to myself: so you can get my dick in your vagina in reverse cowgirl no problem, but you don't get the concept that when the car is leaning all the way over, maybe something is wrong?

And then they would get babied and you know what adults would do if you asked why we all went so easy on them? They'd shrug and smile as if to say "what do you expect" which I don't really disagree, but to sit there and say they're more mature because they know how to present themselves better at a young age is just silly to me.

[ShellyB]

Were there THAT many car crashes among your circle of friends in HS and you had conversations w all of them about it? I think way more than half of fatal teen car crash deaths are boys? And is there any non car stuff that would go with your point, I don't know about other people, but I spend v. little time thinking about cars. JMO!

[strateguy632]

wsy smarter? just by a bit the average girls is a bit higher.

[SwiftyForever]

Science disagrees with you. It's been proven girls mature at least a year older than boys.

This seems to be your personal experience

[ShellyB]

@SwiftyForever What confuses me is that it sounds like, I don't know 20 or 30 kids crashed and they all talked about it personally and in detail w him and he hung out and saw how all of their families reacted and stuff like that, when I would say, this is probably comparing one situation w a guy vs one situation w a girl and then generalizing that like it's universal.

I will say, I totaled my first car crashing into a small decorative tree in my neighborhood bc I was trying to open my water bottle and not paying attention to steering, I walked back home crying and I was prob. babied. Although for the rest of my life to now I get teased about it as well. However I will also mention that nobody was hurt including me, this is a small decorative tree. And, my brother also hit a tree a year later and as far as I remember he was treated about the same (sympathy at first and later teasing, although I also got teased bc it reminded people of my tree incident and they lumped us together). So, that is my personal story for what it is worth, really though all I care about w cars if it it's reliable, gets good gas mileage and holds whatever I need it to hold which isn't much. I drive a Subaru, I don't even remember the model, this is just not a big focus for me.

[SwiftyForever]

@ShellyB yes he generalises a lot by his personal experience.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@SwiftyForever @ShellyB

Yea it's a generalization but when it can be used to essentially predict the future then what do you expect me to do, ignore it?

And people throw the word science around like they did more than read a headline on buzzfeed. No, 30 kids didn't get into car crashes in my school (even though if we use buzz feed math that would probably be the expected number) , but I did go to highschool for 4 years and most of the kids in my town were driving by 16. And yea, when you live in a small town everyone knows about everyone's situation. It only takes a common class to either overhear the person talking about it to their friends or to ask yourself. Like this right here is another example of a lack in maturity to me. Not necessarily one separated by gender, but c'mon, you took what I said and tried to act like it's this proposterous idea that I knew basic details about people I basically grew up with.

And like I said, the story was only meant to illustrate the type of thing that has moved my opinion on this topic in the direction it's leaning toward.

I don't want to sound like an ass, maybe there's a better way if saying the same thing but personal experience is all we can base anything on. That concept alone is arguably the ground modern science stands on right now. I mean, even chat gpt and all these ai shit is just looking at statistics which are fed to it by a person and coming up with a probabilistic answer, that's basically what a generalization is.

And about science saying girls mature faster than boys do, is another one where it really depends on you're definition of mature. In the context of what we're talking about here, there's a lot of conflicting evidence and weak arguments from both sides.

[SwiftyForever]

There are actual studies done by scientists that tell us a clearer picture of the maturity of boys and girls.

Good you acknowledge your views is just your opinion, because personal experience is very flawed way of looking at things because its subjective. It can't be used as evidence unless lot of people have the same experience.

Judging by the respondents here, vast majority are against your personal experience.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

A different example I might pick is getting drunk at a young age. Or how about just watching a few episodes of cops and if you subtract the drug addicts and people who obviously came from extremely broken families. And obviously all that is extremely circumstantial at best and we could go in circles talking about that kind of ancidotal stuff all day but I think the bigger point that's more productive to talk about is, we all have control over our own maturity.

One of Egypts best rulers was like 13. We like to assume that animals with bigger brains are smarter because generally that's a true statement but science proves it's not the case as often as it may seem.

Maybe woman's heads really do gro much faster than men's and there are more neurons at a younger age and there's more activity between them. Last time I read about this, which was probably about 6 or 7 years ago, all that was true. But what are those extra neurons actually doing and at this particular age range, is it doing anything to help with critical thinking skills, is it increasing capacity for processing emotions in a helpful way and is it actually being taken advantage of or are our societal beliefs holding that power back. These are the type of questions neuroscience is trying to figure out how to study right now. It's very difficult to quantify these things.

So yea, generalizations and shared experiences are the best we got right until we have the ability to simulate a human brain.

Fun fact, we can just barely simulate the brain of a worm as of around 3 years ago 😂

[SwiftyForever]

Right but the vast majority of shared experiences here go against your experience.

[Taylorbb]

@SwiftyForever

Are you saying his experience is considered invalid or not of value because there is a lot more people with different experiences than him?

[SwiftyForever]

@Taylorbb no I am just saying it's in the minority.

[Taylorbb]

@SwiftyForever Ok last question,

Are you saying experiences, in the minority, make them intrinsically less important simply because they're a smaller group of them happening?

[Rykaray]

@Taylorbb men tend to aleays perceive situations that paint them in a positive light and any otherism they've created in a negative light. Now THAT has been proven by science.

[SwiftyForever]

@Rykaray Great point!

[SwiftyForever]

@Taylorbb no but its a problem if the person think they are the most important

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@SwiftyForever Lmao

Talking to you feels like watching CNN sometimes. After letting more comments come into this page, it doesn't seem like I'm in the minority. It seems like it's pretty much 50/50 and a lot of people who agree with me brought up very similar points to mine.

So what? We all came to the same conclusion because we all just think we're so much better than everyone else? In a way, you could say that pretty much counts as a large source of different accounts on the topic

It's not that I think mine is the most important, it's that I can use my generalizations to accurately predict the future. That's (loosely) the definition of proving a theory.

[SwiftyForever]

Oh okay. I wasn't talking about you though. I am using the poll results too

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@SwiftyForever OK, in that case even better because you can't really count the girls votes in the poll can you?

[SwiftyForever]

I am counting overall, gender doesn't matter

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@SwiftyForever of course it does. Especially when there's such a huge discrepancy between the male and female votes

[SwiftyForever]

I see now. Yes.

[Taylorbb]

@Rykaray Women do the same.

[Taylorbb]

@SwiftyForever As long as you know that minority experience is just as important and valuable. That's all that matters.

[MrOracle]

They used to - not so much anymore.

The main reason anyone matures is by accepting responsibility, and in the past, both boys and girls had more responsibilities at a much younger age than is typical today, but it could be argued that girls often had responsibilities at younger ages than boys.

Today, there is, on average, less expectation on most teens to grow up and take on full responsibility for themselves A lot of women and also plenty of men spend most of their 20s avoiding responsibilities, and that's retarding growth and delaying success in life significantly, as well as having a devastating effect on families (in many cases, there isn't one).

Fot women specifically, the Pill and other BC, welfare and Child Support have also vastly lowered the bar of responsibility with very negative results. Those come out of the 1960s, but didn't become widespread until the 70s, so my generation (GenX) is really the first to feel the full impact of it, and it hasn't been good.

Anyway, I think the statement was probably true for a long time, but I don't think it's true any longer, generally. You can always find individual exceptions, but I'm talking about the majority.

[SwiftyForever]

Science disagrees with you

[MrOracle]

@SwiftyForever Great. Please post the related articles and studies. I'd be interested to read them.

[MrNameless]

In regards to BC, it's a bit of a two-way street and agreed upon between man and woman (in a hetero-consensual relationship). Also women are given more sexual freedom and divorces aren't as looked down upon. I'll also be a feminist and say that sure. nobody likes wearing condoms. But that's the only real BC for men, while women have to shove things in their vagina (IUDs) for extended periods of time, and/or they have to take pills that affect their hormones

[silyt_ghoest]

I don’t think they do naturally. We cannot deny that we live, less so then in the past, but we live in a patriarchal society. And we still use what happened when it was much much worse for women as ideals now. not only that, but a lot of the time girls are sexualized from a young age and more is expected of them when it comes to more adult things. This isn’t really an everyone thing, there are lots of guys who were sexualized and expected to be mature too young and lots of girls who weren’t. I also think society just expects girls to be more mature, especially when you look at the way elementary school teachers act when a girl acts up vs a boy. I don’t know, I’ve never felt we naturally do, I’ve always felt it was due to the fact that for most of human history it’s been sort of forced upon us.

[MrNameless]

I agree that it's true that boys get away with more stuff in regard to certain behavior, while girls are raised to be modest, more mindful, and team-oriented. We all hear "Boys will be boys." This includes how they treat people and being held accountable for specific responsibilities such as chores.

[bingbongbangbung]

we stopped living in the patriarchy (in the West) since the 1960s

[silyt_ghoest]

@bingbongbangbung yeah but we still have things we’ve carried from the patriarchy is what i meant. like repressive gender double standards.

[CubsterShura]

Girls don't mature faster, they are simply held accountable for their actions more than boys.

It's not like as soon as my period started I no longer had anymore childlike traits. I still wanted to play and get care and attention from my family and need everything that a child needs. Yet I was pretty much forced to stop playing with the children in my neighborhood. Meanwhile, here's a real conversation I had with my mother:

Mom: Ah leave, it, he (my brother) is just a kid.

Me: MOM HE'S 27 🤦‍♀️

[AmeerX]

For moms children never grow uo

[turnpost]

The fact your quoting childhood when your an adult shows your immaturity. I would say its equal.

Women really really overestimate there intelligence in this current time like they can't be wrong, there sole ego is based off of this intelligence.

[_Maya_]

We overestimate intelligence and you can't get there and their right. The irony.

[_Maya_]

Not to mention you have done it not once, but twice.

[turnpost]

Its a keyboard, there are typos there my fault lol.

Lets focus on the argument instead of deflecting to typos.

I am saying women are equal to men.

[turnpost]

And I care? bye now

[_Maya_]

@turnpost deflecting? Lmao you talk of intelligence. I would hope an intelligent person would check THEIR spelling. Guess not.

[CubsterShura]

@AmeerX then why did I have to grow up fast? I was a child too, I have a mother too.

Yes children will always be children to their parents in the sense that the parents will always love and take care of their child and the child is always safe with the parents, but not in the sense that you never acknowledge that your child has grown up.

[CubsterShura]

@turnpost "The fact your quoting childhood when your an adult shows your immaturity."

How so? Where does it say that mature people cannot talk about their childhood?

[AmeerX]

@CubsterShura I think it has a lot to do with you being younger perhaps.
You see my brother is elder and so are my sisters but I get the most heat. And they are off the hook most times.
One day I asked my parents and they said I am the fire extinguisher of the hose o that's why I got the most heat at work

[MrNameless]

Girls and boys are held accountable in different ways. But it also matters on who is holding them responsible or not. If the parents aren't holding boys accountable for the same things as girls or vice versa like chores, treating people with respect, etc they failed them.

Boys typically get away with more stuff growing up in regard to domestic housework. They're also given more freedom.

Society/law/workforce also gives more leeway to women in certain aspects as well just for being women. Men are always seen as perps, while women as victims. So guess who's gonna be believed more in a he vs she said thing in a court of law? As well as child custody. Women get away with more shit for committing the same crime as a man. It could be molesting, killing somebody or whatever. Women aren't required to do some of the same stuff as guys do in jobs such as lifting things, and most women wouldn't want to do blue-collar jobs

You also have social media making feel women empowered (which is fine), but also entitled in certain ways. We constantly here from movies, shows, relationship advice sound bits from badtiktok/Instagram and other social media sources that men are somehow always wrong in relationships, and women aren't. So who do you think holds themselves accountable more? Not a specific set of women who take said advice seriously and don't ever apologize for their actions while demanding their partner to grovel beneath their feet.

[MrNameless]

Everyone needs to be held responsible. It's definitely a failure of society and how parents raise their kids.

[grega239]

In what world are women held more accountable?

[CubsterShura]

@grega239 right on planet earth.

[CubsterShura]

@MrNameless only age-appropriately. Children are not supposed to be responsible for their parents emotions growing up. However, they can be taught agency and independence from an early age by letting them clean up after themselves, put their own stuff away etc. It is not an older child's responsibility to take the caretaker role for their younger siblings unless the older sibling is an adult and the younger siblings are missing primary caretakers for some reason.

[CubsterShura]

@MrNameless "Women get away with more shit for committing the same crime as a man." Whose fault is it? Patriarchy taught people that women are the fairer sex to excuse men's degenerate behavior but at the same time shame women for doing the same things with double standards around matters such as smoking, promiscuous behavior, but when that results in women being punished less harshly you want to complain?

"Women aren't required to do some of the same stuff as guys do in jobs such as lifting things, and most women wouldn't want to do blue-collar jobs" that can be easily debunked by just traveling to places where women have more equality in those workspaces. Women don't do those jobs because they would rather not, but moreso because of the barriers to enter those jobs to begin with and the harassment that women face. There is an entire Wikipedia page featuring women who sneaked out or disguised as men to join wars, and if you look up the statistics of women in the military and how often they get sexually harassed it should be crystal clear why many women would like to avoid it. India as well as most of South Asia is quite conservative in a sense that women aren't seen doing much a lot of blue collar jobs, especially drivers, you hardly ever see female cab or autorickshaw drivers. However, if you go to Kerela which is one of the most educated cities in India and has an impressive amount of gender equality, you will see female drivers everywhere, when the rest of the subcontinent cannot even imagine that. Bear in mind that drivers have a much lower social status in South Asia and the culture is very different from that of North America.

Y'all can come up with a bunch of hypothetical concepts but can't bother to look outside once and see that there are real things happening out there completing debunking your theories.

[CubsterShura]

@AmeerX "You see my brother is elder and so are my sisters but I get the most heat. And they are off the hook most times."

My sister is the oldest and she always got the most heat, but I got more heat than my brother.

[grega239]

You either have different standards or you're full of shit because women do less time for the same crime.

Abortion is another way women dodge accountability.

I could go on

[bingbongbangbung]

lol not in today's society where women have the rights of a man but the accountability of children; even a decade ago, it wasn't even this bad

[AmeerX]

Oh lol, my eldest sister and I get most heat too but middle one's not so much

[turnpost]

Its equal, omg. Screw your typos lol. I am surprised by the responses on this one.

[coachTanthony]

Yes because guys always have that child inside them wanting to play games

[MrNameless]

I do. But I think a really big factor is how the individual is raised, including the responsibilities they were given and who they hang out with (which goes hand in hand with nurture). Men and women are usually raised very differently.

Women are/were taught very early on as girls to be mindful, polite (on the outside), organized, help with the chores more, and overall be more cooperative. Guys as boys are generally given a lot more leeway when it comes to housework to the above stuff and have more freedom (this partially has to do with protecting girls). Guys have more freedom to do stupid shit as growing up, while parents are usually more protective of their daughters.

Women also have better role models than men growing up, but not having a father or father figure around will mess with girls too.

As a society, we need to raise women to be more independent ( a lot of them are now), and men to be more in tune with their emotions--as well as be more mindful and help out with house stuff.

[FunkyMonkee]

They, kinda, have to. They have to deal with growing tits, having periods, taking better care of their bodies, worrying about getting pregnant. Boys of that same age group are still playing with toy trucks and cars, playing War, collecting baseball cards, having fun, etc..

[_Maya_]

Very true and great opinion.

[AmazonChick171]

That is a good point. It makes sense because girls we have to do a lot of those things earlier and stop playing with toys and acting like little girls.

[FunkyMonkee]

Thank you!

[FunkyMonkee]

@AmazonChick171 Exactly! Being a girl kinda forces you to take on more responsibilities in your life earlier than boys would. And, if you DO get pregnant, you have to be able to deal with those first 9 months responsibly and then raise that kid the rest of your life if you choose to have it.

[AmazonChick171]

Yep. That’s the truth. I know some girls and women still like dolls but it’s time to grow up. That’s probably why parents are stricter and tougher on girls I guess. I have a cousin that had a baby at 16 and she had to take care of it on her own. Her parents didn’t helped her and made her find her own way. Her good for nothing ex boyfriend ran off and partied with his boys. Boys aren’t stuck with the baby, the girls always are unless the girl leaves but she can’t. Boys and men have it so lucky.

[FunkyMonkee]

@AmazonChick171 Well, there's nothing wrong with maintaining your love for your toys. Every few years, or so, I feel like whipping out my Hot Wheels cars and tracks and playing with that for a few hours.
I don't know if boys are so lucky. If they're man enough to stick by her, they have to grow up and get a job to support the baby and potential wife and that's not exactly easy, either.

[Honest-Matt]

People mature based on how they grow up. You can have someone who's 60 and never really took on hard challenges in their life that develop someone into an exemplary adult. The coin can be flipped the other way and people very early have to go through hardships and decisions that make them mature fast. It's not based on sex, it's based on life.

[_Maya_]

Good answer

[Honest-Matt]

Thank you ^_^

[BlackBeauty90]

@_Maya_ - have you read some of the posts & responses to comments on this forum?

There's a LOT of users who identify themselves as "men" in their 30s or 40s or older and yet they act worse than a toddler experiencing the terrible 2s. And they continue with such even if other users post websites / valid information refuting their claims.

[_Maya_]

I have so noticed. Some that do nothing but log on here to complain about this or that.

[DarkWinterNights]

I think my view may be a little controversial. I think girls start maturing a lot earlier and faster than boys. Usually around 12 or 13, but they hit a plateau around 16-18, where they stay until their late 20’s. Where they kind of go through another type of puberty. Whereas boys start maturing at 15-16, and continue at a slower pace until their 30’s. Obviously not everyone fits this mold, but so many girls I knew in school I met later on in my 20’s and seemingly hadn’t changed mentally or emotionally since high school with a lot of very naive perspectives on life.

[Unit1]

No.

There are immature 60-something year olds still stuck on the whole "alpha male" bullshit.

And there are adult women putting high emphasis on social media. To the point they act like I do not exist if I do not have an instagram account.

And then there are 16 year olds, who speak as if they've lived through life before. Like they have wisdom from a previous life, which was not subscribing to the "alpha male" bullshit or social media's takeover over human lives.

Maturity is relative to each individual.

[worldscolide]

In my personal experience, maturity is subjective. Physically, yeah girls mature faster. From my personal experiences some women mature faster mentally, while others remain behaving as if they are still in high school at the age of 30, and barely understand the concept of taking care of one's self.

I was on my own at the age of 16. I had to grow up fast. Most women I knew when I was in my early 20's who were between the ages of 20 and 30 were still living with parents and would not have survived what I went through.. Hell now that I'm in my 40's the issue has gotten worse not better.. And I see a person's ability to survive on their own as a massive indicator of maturity.

[Anonymous]

in my experience i think girls are expected to deal with more from a younger age and there are more longstanding socialised expectations of girls having to be more mature compared to boys, from parents and schools it's like boys can be boys but girls are meant to be a certain way, then we grow up and there are even more expectations from family, work/school, media - obviously i think this is more determined by circumstances and environment, a rich girl from a happy home life probably won't mature as fast as a girl growing up in poverty looking after her family or any other circumstance etc

[bingbongbangbung]

that only applies to socially conservative households and societies

[silyt_ghoest]

@bingbongbangbung america is socially conservative (assuming you live there) but if not I don't know look up the rates in your country

[ShellyB]

I think so, I could try to guess or explain why, but I would say a lot of the same things as other people. But as an example when I was 14, I was often taking care of small kids with no adults around, when. my brother was 14, he was playing Xbox and I would look out the back window when he was supposed to be mowing the yard and see him sword fighting with tree branches w people who were not there.

[Lynx122]

It's not a question of believing it's proven. Girls are almost 2 years ahead of boys in high school with brain development. And that also affects maturity. It's funny cause girls caught up to boys in school in the 90s (in Europe and NA) and ever since then there's been an imbalance. But people don't seem to care about that. Of course there's also other factors that favor girls but developing faster is definitely a big edge.

[bingbongbangbung]

what does education have to do with maturity?

[Siri137]

Well, I'm over 30 now, and I still haven't matured, so... :D

[_Maya_]

Lol great answer 😆

[Constatine]

🥰 " evig ungdom " or in English : " eternal youth " 👍

[KostasKouvalis]

You're not normal though 😂

[Siri137]

@KostasKouvalis That's true, LOL :D

[McLlovin]

What’s your definition of mature? For me mentally mature is being a responsible adult. Playing video games isn’t immature it’s a difference in interest. But society says, yes I know. I’m not a sheep. I think showing yourself nude on onlyfans is immature. Because your sacrificing your dignity for money which is just a digital version of a hooker.

being irresponsible in anyway is my only definition of being immature, because at that point what’s the difference between you and a child… age?

[_Maya_]

Well I certainly have your definition of mature.

[OfMiceandMen]

I would say girls mature (mentally) in certain areas faster than guys but not all round. For example, girls mature faster with respect to relationships and finances because they put more time and effort into thinking about them early on. Whereas, guys mature more quickly when it comes to areas that require more confidence like being out on their own sooner than girls. They have no problem picking up and leaving for a job across the country, at an early age, etc.

[bingbongbangbung]

aren't women statistically more in debt and with more expenses than men?

[OfMiceandMen]

@bingbongbangbung I understand where you are coming from... Perhaps younger women, but women my age were typically really good with their money growing up. I don't hang with women your age so they could very well have lots of debt. Good point.

[Kayla45]

Biologically women have to, throughout early history women were absolutely essential to produce offspring. Not saying they're not nowadays but during the early early years of humanity it was essential that they had as many babies as she could handle.

This is likely one of the theoretical possibilities as to why women develop faster at a younger age then men. It's all a biological cycle, hard coded into our genetics. ❤️

[strateguy632]

the question specified not that type.

[Daviddd5412]

Hmm probably. I give music lessons to kids and I've noticed every single one of the boys have trouble concentrating and practicing on their own. On the other hand, every girl student I've had has been very attentive and they always seem like they care what I'm talking about. I think their social skills are more advanced than the boys too. The boys do have a lot of energy though, I just don't know how to get them to direct that energy towards practicing.

[monorprise]

Yes in general girls can be years ahead of guys in terms of maturity.
This is most likely due to women having to become mothers at ever earlier ages and the lower relative level developmental demands upon them to fulfill this role.

Men by contrast historically had more educational and learned skills and thus took more time to Finnish growing up and learning them.

[bingbongbangbung]

that only applies to socially conservative societies and/or households, and even then, once males catch up they typically surpass females anyways

[Losalt]

Yes and no.
Girls reach the point where the hormones calm down a bit more earlier then we men do.
And maturity really takes a break during puberty.
But at the same time it takes experience to reach real maturity.
And while it varies how fast we gain those it tends to take time to accumulate much experience...

[Flatmanlewis]

The question seems kind of open ended but I’d say they may mature at a younger age than some males but that’s no measure of actual maturity. Seems to me there are plenty of immature young women and men out there.

[_Maya_]

It's open ended for a reason. It's so you can give an opinion based on your experience which everyone's is going to be different.

[Flatmanlewis]

Fair enough. I think women tend to mature mentally more than men at a younger age. Yet emotionally there are various factors for men & women so it’s a toss up. I think in my experience most of the women I’ve been with in my life since about 30 have all been several years younger than me and I’ve heard from their perspective that they often felt a need to date above their age to avoid the silly games.

[Constatine]

No... i know so..

Girls are why why more mature on say 16 then boys.. boys wanna play.. boys just wanna have fun ( oh crap does where the girls.. sorry ) . You can see it clearly when they ask presents for their birthday.

Boys often ask games and other playable ( 😱 ) things.

" most " girls are asking more mature things.. because they are already thinking of their future.