Chris rock once said “ Only Women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provides something.
This is facts, nobody cares about men’s struggles, a man can’t cry without being called weak or soft. Nobody cares about men’s struggles. That’s why they’re self deleting at a rate 4, now it’s only 3 times as many. 75% men to 25% women) times that of women. Men don’t dare open up or show vulnerability to a partner because most women either use it as ammunition against them later, or in the best case scenario they subconsciously see it as weakness and lose attraction for him leading to the relationship ending. People brush that off as redpill nonsense, but it’s true in my own case as well as many others I’ve seen. Never be vulnerable with a woman you’re romantically involved with or the relationship will take a nose dive. I don’t believe this dynamic will ever change in my lifetime or even several generations more.
Even if SOME women are accepting enough to support a man in his vulnerability, it will take tremendous trust for him to really know for sure that she actually is such a woman. If he’s EVER gotten burned in the past, he likely will never open up again.
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If women are so horrible, what is the point of men wanting to be with them? I need an explanation.
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I honestly highly advise men to stay away from women. And, if you’re already in a relationship, end it now.
If this is true, why do men still want relationships? And why are many men still in one?
There is truth to his statement. I think you have to chose the right person. My girlfriend is also autistic like me and she accepts me the way I am (we have one political issue where she's stubborn and we disagree but otherwise she accepts me) and I can do things with her that I'm not good at and she won't use it against me.
I think in life it comes down to your filter. How do you filter people? When it comes to filtering people based on how positively or negatively they affect my mental health I'm very good at that. An expert you could say.
But since most people are not incentivized to prioritize mental health as much as me, they don't focus on that as much when they're chosing partners. That can have really negative consequences. I want to help people focus on their mental health more but I'm also limited. We'll see how it goes in the future.
I'm kind of working on the opposite. I'm trying to have more friendships and accept that some people will hurt me but not take it too personally I'm trying to open up more you could say. And it's gonna be quite a challenge. But because I have so much experience in protecting myself and I have this stable base if things get too much I can always put my foot down and come back to where I started.
I have a lot of practice ending relationships, withdrawing from people just making sure they won't be in my life anymore if they affect me negatively so I can always reach back to that if I need it. I think it gives me a lot of security and people can feel I won't accept bad treatment from them.
However I don't want to be too avoidant and miss out on good things because I'm overreacting to things or something that's why I'm working on these things.
I think the term "loved unconditionally" is an abused and incorrectly used term most of the time. If loving unconditionally means despite anything than that someone will continue to love you no matter what you did, e. g. Well, I had a few too many drinks last night and this guy picked me up & took me back to his apartment where we had the best sex I've ever had? Would Mr. Right still love you. What if you gained 200 #? Unconditional means through all of that and more. I'm not singling out you for using the term incorrectly; I just think it is used w/o really think of what that means many times. If there is any possibility of unconditional love I would believe that it might be possible in a spiritual sense but I don't know of any mortal capable of doing it. Mother and child relationship is maybe the closest thing as mortals but if child starts coming home to shoot heroin or sets the house on fore or joins a cult dedicated to genocide is enough to keep even that from being unconditional- sorry for being a a know-it-all dipshit but someone has to do it
The crazy thing is that a lot of men will go out of their way to choose a woman based off their sexual preferences like a damn build your own sex bot type of shit then except those women to love them for more than just money. They are asking for unconditional love but then devaluing women into sex objects not giving them any unconditional love in return.
Take a look at half these questions on this site most of them have men bitching in the comments about they'd never get with a fat girl or a girl with a high body count. Those men are not worthy of unconditional love when they aren't willing to give it back or even be nice to women. They've dug their own grave and their stuck in it.
What grave? Noone is bitching. They just state their preferences. Like women can state theirs. Guys just say they dont want women with high bodycount. What is weird women get butthurt about it. - Well you gonna say you aren't. Well it seems you are since you brought it up. And why would you want someone who dont want you the way you are.
@JesseP1nk if they have preferences like that then they cannot unconditionally love a woman. Many men don't even see women as people. There is no point for a woman to unconditionally love a man when he doesn't even see her as a human
Aww. Actually that was part of a comedy skit and should be taken with a grain of salt, not 100% literally.
I wouldn’t say no one cares about men — that’s rather extreme. It’s just that too many people ONLY care about themselves today… and that’s the root of all our problems on and off the G@G circuit.
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This was from Facebook and you should’ve seen the comments from men.
@pizzabandit Oooh... deep. I think the quote is taken out of context, so it's invalidated based on flawed logic, in which case it's neither life nor art, just a pile of words taken out of their intended space.
I see your point. I was looking at it as maybe he drew inspiration from the experiences in his own marriage or past marriages (I don't know his status)
A true story. I was traveling cross country with a girlfriend and her young daughter. She was from a small town in VA. I'm from San Francisco, but was living in Texas at the time. I had lost my ID and couldn't get it reissued until we reached the Bay Area. At the AZ/CA border in Blythe we were nearly out of gas and parked at a truck stop, a major one. We only had a few dollars at that point. However, we'd packed everything, and I had a bunch of good stuff I'd accrued. New team pullovers, short and long sleeve, electronic goods, etc. I went walking around the truck stop with a box full of brand new stuff of mine... stuff I'd ordered online, in some cases never worn. I explained we were out of gas, only needed the tank filled. Wasn't even asking for cash. Just take some of my goods and fill the tank. I must've asked 40 people. 3/4 brushed me off without even listening. 1/4 did listen, but wouldn't buy. I went back to the car, told her to go try... it wasn't going to happen for me. She was dressed conservatively, 30 years old. She didn't even have any goods to sell at all. So she went out and asked. She was only gone 10 mins. She was convinced we were screwed... but I knew we weren't. She's from a small town... nice... but naive. She came back 10 mins later and sat in the driver's seat and just stared ahead. Didn't even look at me. She unfurled her right hand. Out fell $118. Men have it easier huh? Ooookkkayyy🤣🤣🤣🤣
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How men are treated by society is why Men Going Their Own Way came into existence (it was birthed in the mid to early 2000's by two men who go by the on-line aliases of Solaris and Ragna), is not as most Feminists think an organisation, it is more of a philosophy. The men who have decided to follow this philosophy do not hate women, they just do not wish to have a close personal relationship at this particular moment, this is not set in stone it depends if they meet someone they feel they are compatible with, all these men have done is performed a risk/benefit analysis and decided that marriage/family life is not for them.
It is True that some but not the majority of the men in MGTOW have had bad experiences through divorce and the family court where everything they worked to build in their lives their homes children have been ripped from them, by a system that is biased in favour of women, which sees the as nothing more than an ambulatory wallet that is disposable and should not be given the same amount of parental time with any children of the marriage as the mother.
This reminds me of "if girls didn't have pussies, we'd throw rocks at them." The reality is that the sexes have things to offer each other. It's a balance. That's what sexual dimorphism is. And I love it. I want a woman that's nothing like a man. And women won't admit it, but they want men that are nothing like women. We compliment each other's energies. If you can't accept that, you'll be perpetually miserable.
Let's see: Human connection A higher purpose Tribal instincts Self preservation and procreation
I can go on and on listing
But ultimately it comes down to this: normal people who aren't chronically online getting brainwashed by loser "influencers" into radicalized views on a non-existent gender wars, are actually people who do enjoy eachother's company.
There are things in life that are better when shared with loved ones and normal people thrive to have those things.
I don't know who it was that hurt you so bad but advocating for celibacy is not the answer
Most men are good! The problem is that the ladies are more often than not distracted by the bad boy arrogant type of men and that usually leads to abusive relationships. A lot of good men have bad social anxiety from horrible experiences and fear of rejection. I totally understand that. If you are a man reading this I can assure you that your special lady will find you some day. Don’t give up! Also you have every right to search for love on a global level as it’s very unlikely that your person will be in a close radius to you especially if you don’t live in a big city.
A guy isn't fully committed unless he gives you a ring. A lot of you women are having a harder time than ever in history to get a ring. Why? Because the average woman is more self-centered & useless than ever before. Also having a good woman used to motivate men to work harder (to provide) and without that motivation the percentage of guys who are content just having fun without women is sky rocketing.
I disagree with the idea that men should look for/want/need emotional support from women tho. Women are not wired to give that to men & men aren't supposed to be wired to need it from women but a lot of people were brainwashed into thinking it's normal.
Women have changed and adapted to massive changes in society. They no longer “need” a man and can live independently and support themselves. They can be strong OR they can be weak. Anytime they want, they can outsource their challenges. When they do choose to outsource their challenges - be they home repairs, to car maintenance, to safety, to financial support - there is no detrimental consequence in how they are perceived.
Men, we still are expected to be protectors, providers, and suppliers. We are expected to fix problems - both our own and those around us - without exception. Tired, worn down, discouraged…no matter. Suck it up, Buttercup. Get to work and get it done. Men intuitively know this and as a result bury deep their weaknesses, fears, and doubts, and learn to put on the happy face and carry on.
Thank you for giving respect to us men though I think it is a bit… Skewed, just a little.
Yes I had an aid that while I was crying she barked at me, “stop crying, boys don’t cry” which made me cry more…
Anyways, I think women & girls & etc. haven’t given men the support they deserve while also there are sexist toxic men who take these points and make it ‘anti-woman’ showcasing how women are awful, terrible, evil people who only want to put you down to promote themselves which hurts us good men more since more women hear these awful things and label the group as a whole.
Shut up and let us all join hands in respecting & loving one another. I love all my female friends, all the women of the world, etc. Yes I grew up with awful women in my life however that doesn’t justify labeling the group as a whole. Women are amazing, same as men. Stop fighting and start hugging, God Bless You all!
I don't see where Chris rock said women are horrible in the above statements.
The summary of the whole narration is that more preference and priority is given to women than men.
People are kinder to females than males on large scale there are reasons as why so one of the main reasons is they are not considered as harmful or threat but they are capable of being so.
There are only few instances where women marry men earning lesser than them or if they do they aren't valued it would be same they might cheat insult etc etc same as what some men do, but still they would have more choices than any average men would have.
Also the society expects more from men than women.
There are plenty of reasons men are undervalued and their rights are ignored.
Now why do men want to be in relationship because they have responsibilty for human kind to make it prosperous and progressful.
I do think it's about the quality of the woman you choose. And in turn you have to respect and value yourself. Because women will use you if you allow them to.
All I would say, in addition to what you're saying, is there is this whole feminist notion that men are the oppressors and have it easy. In reality, women have a lot of privelege. A lot. Both genders have it hard in their own way.
I completely agree with this. Society really does place so much pressure on gender roles. Men face a lot of that and they can’t just look cute and get away with it. Men are often seen as providers to the relationship and it really shouldn’t always be seen that way. There are plenty of women who can provide for themselves and their loved ones too and men are absolutely capable of being stay at home dads. Which is a whole different discussion on it’s own.
Because there are good women out there. They are just in the vast minority. Problems is, it takes men some time to understand what makes a woman a good quality woman and avoid all the landmines out there. Generally speaking most good women are married off by 25. This is why I'll recommend to any guy that will listen if you haven't nailed a quality woman down by then, take your time. Because the risks are far too high at that point, and the rewards far too low.
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What about women who didn’t get married at age 25?
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What about them?
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Does that mean they’re not good?
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Not necessarily. I've broken this down before. I'm just saying the best women want to be married and actively work to that end. They find a man and nail him down. Women after 25 still have potential but the might still need to learn that marriage requires sacrifice. I'm simply saying that a man is taking a much bigger gamble after 25 because most of the women who say they want to be married after 25 mean "solely on her terms". That's a recipe for disaster. No self respecting guy entertains that woman.
Honey, bestie, sweetheart, what do you gain from telling people how much you hate women? Genuinely curious here 😍 You're either a troll or a deeply sad individual if you're out here convincing men to dump their partners
I don't understand this talk of being vulnerable though, I don't know what he means even. I guess I've never felt this urge to cry or have a breakdown or whatever. I've never had any problem saying what I think or feel either, so I don't get it.
Uhh because we are human beings duh. Your question doesn’t really make sense. Thats like saying this person down like urinating.. so then why do they do it? … because thats how the body works you can't help it
Sure, there are exceptions, but a majority of dudes are dumb-dumbs. So many believe lies told by grifters like Donald Trump. The only thing more vile than a woman is a dude. :(
I've never had those problems. I'm able to be vulnerable around women without negative consequence or judgment. Also men are not deleting themselves at a rate of 75%.. Seems like madeup nonsense.
Get off of the internet and get a life. Please. I don’t know what your issues are, but you need counseling. All of of your posts are negative and pessimistic.
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the people who disagree with Chris Rock can't even give a proper reason as to why they disagree with him other than slander and insult him
and those slandering you are only proving his point even more
I actually think only children come close to being loved unconditionally. And as I like to say, a good or great relationship is better than being single, but a bad or mediocre relationship is worse than being single.
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Sex and intimacy. A lot of men like being fathers and husbands the problems come with the fact that 50% of marraiges end in divorce and 85% are instigated by women usually for little real justification.
What else is a man that want children of his own supposed to do? He has no choice but to take a big fat bite out of that sandwich and hope it's not a shit one.
This is the problem… people listen to others on social media or wherever and let others think for them instead of being their own person and having their own ideals….
Of course, because we have feelings and it's perfectly valid to think that while in a relationship. Life is a total b! tch, but you do what you gotta do to get through life and not go insane
I was in a relationship once when I was 5. It was gay. Lol. Women aren't made for live or relationships. They are made for having babies and draining resources.
I've been single for a decade and only stumbled ass backwards into the ones I had before then and spent most of my life single and not looking to mingle
The post and photo I got from Facebook. You should’ve seen the comments from men saying how it’s true. And all I can think is, “Then why are y’all in relationships with women?”
People forget he's a comedian. You know who made the women and children first rule? Men lol. We volunteered to be gentle.. hence the creation of the world gentleman. Ok I can't say if that is the origin of the word gentleman BUT... It's as good as any made up answer is going to get.
@Friendlybro79 Sure he’s a comedian but he’s a man just like you. I found this on Facebook and you should’ve seen the comments from men saying it’s true.
Well you shouldn't take Facebook as a good source of anything. I'm a man and I'm saying I don't feel like a victim to this. I feel like most women respect me and value you, the ones that know me of course, and I feel the same for them. I don't think life is nearly as bad as Facebook makes it.
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