Sorry if this is late, but why are you upset about it? I'm not upset about it, it just seals the deal if she offers her meal cost, because then I know she's serious abiit dating, or she doesn't want a second date🤔😕 Anyways I don't mind paying.
Some of these things have truth to them, women are often seen as less desirable after 23, and sluts aren't attractive to men, but men sleeping around isn't as detrimental. This stuff didn't just pop out of thin air.
If women are seen less desirable after 23? Why am I constantly hit on day in and day out, and mistaken for a woman in her early 20s? It all has to do with whether the person takes care of their exterior or not, how desirable they are to others. An age, is just an age. I've seen very young women who look like crap. "Sluts aren't attractive to men" that's true. But I can't tell you how many men are sluts themselves and degrade women for doing the very same thing. There's a doubt standard. There's also men, who can't get laid (wish they could live that life) and degrade women as well which I also find very contradicting.
I said less desirable, not completely undesirable. You're missing the point. You're more desirable now than you will be in another 10 years. It's a gradual thing. And in terms of the slut things, there's double standards for everything. That's just one thing women will always have to look at.
Its not a double standard, its rooted in biology, men have higher sex drives due to having unlimited sperm and being more expendable, women having the ability to become pregnant has made it important to be careful with who she sleeps with, to make sure he will help her take care of the baby if she gets pregnant. So because of this its way easier for women to get laid than it is for men, and thats why men who sleep with many women are impressive but women who sleep with many men are easy and usually not relationship material.
Awesome! My buddy asked if I want to grab some wings after work on Monday, now I can leave my wallet at home!!! Other than that I can see what you're saying.
It's about having some class, and I think there is a huge gap between the generations in understanding what being a "man" in the traditional sense really means.
1. Why can't we fucking pay for what we ordered? Why do we have to pay for the whole meal? 2. I'm not gonna bless someone because their immune system decides to spit out snot.
Yeah... Guess my bitterness isn't from the shit women have done to me but it's my lack of success with women.
But hey, women can't do wrong can they? There can't be repercussions for their actions as their actions hold no weight unless they're positive because women don't intentionally hurt their partners on a somewhat regular basis (statistically verified as either doing so, willing to do so, or having a plan for when [not if] when they do so).
Eh, I keep myself distracted. Play guitar 3-4 hours a day and working on getting a business setup. Eventually something will fall into my lap but I need more free time and the ability to be happy and not feel like my job could be taken away at any second.
@Gommers Well, yeah, that would help. I think one thing a lot of women don't quite get is that a lot of guys need to feel stable in OTHER aspects of their lives, before they can really give themselves to a relationship. That's the way it is with me, anyway.
But there are lots of unbelievably supportive women out there, too, and sometimes they're the catalysts for a guy's life switching around. :) Me, though, I need to take care of sh** myself, feel like I'm worth something, feel like I've got something to offer, before I go for the love.
Fuck dude, yeah, it's all fucking retarded right now with the way western civilization is treating the workers. In the big lebowski Jeff Lebowski says "The bums lost sir, get a job!"
I'm pretty sure in the end it's going to be us bums that end up winning; peace and comfort will be our reward. I'm no man's cog to burn up.
I simply dont ask girls that expect me to pay for all the expenses out on a date.
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nope nope nope... EQUALITY NOW... i'm not going back to the old days. This is what women wanted... no man is going backwards now. Sucks doesn't it girls? Well tough luck
It's funny that you assume someone thinks they are unequal because they expect you to pay for a date, all because you asked them out. This has nothing to do with equality... it has to do with simple manners and thoughtfulness as a human-being. Those that sum up a man paying for their date and you viewing them as unequal, are those who think pretty much EVERYTHING a man does is an injustice towards women (example----pulling their chair out for them to sit, or holding a door open for them). There's true feminism then there's ridiculous arguments.
this is why i'm staying away from women. I got my career and all the stuff i need for a happy life. I'm so done with women. I just want women to get away from me. Like leave me alone
If you're on your phone the entire date, or clearly don't want to be there, you can pay for your own meal. No point in impressing a girl that I don't plan on dating
Right, so I have to pay your bills to be a "decent person". And what "common courtesy" and "kindness" you are going to show ME then? Or does this only apply in your case, mrs cherished snowflake?
Pay my bills? What are you talking about? You somehow think someones ten dollar meal is the same as a 300 dollar bill or 1,000 dollars they may pay for rent? Pathetic!
That doesn't answer my question. What courtesy are you going to show me so I know you are a decent person? How about you offer to pay my bill then, to show me some courtesy? Or is it just you thinking "courtesy" is things people have to do for YOU?
Whoever asks out , should pay. The guy is usually the initiator so he should in that case. When the guy becomes my boyfriend there's many times I treat him or cover my own bill. If a guys huge concern is money I'd say his priorities aren't right. He also should take the girl on a affordable place if he's so concerned about the money.
Yeah just totally fly by the fact that the article title stated that I am speaking about "Some GAG Men". Also ignore that towards the end, I mention there's great men on this site and not all are like that. READ before speaking.
You're right sorry I don't know why I jumped the gun I misread the title and went craze I apologise for being rash after you've seen this I wil remove my original comment, again sorry
Thanks for the compliment. I'll do a future mytake about women on GAG. If you have any observations or examples of how they act that you want me to put in just pm me.
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I am really REALLLLLLLY getting irritable at this same-nonstop argument of men paying on the first date.
Sorry if this is late, but why are you upset about it? I'm not upset about it, it just seals the deal if she offers her meal cost, because then I know she's serious abiit dating, or she doesn't want a second date🤔😕 Anyways I don't mind paying.
Some of these things have truth to them, women are often seen as less desirable after 23, and sluts aren't attractive to men, but men sleeping around isn't as detrimental. This stuff didn't just pop out of thin air.
If women are seen less desirable after 23? Why am I constantly hit on day in and day out, and mistaken for a woman in her early 20s? It all has to do with whether the person takes care of their exterior or not, how desirable they are to others. An age, is just an age. I've seen very young women who look like crap.
"Sluts aren't attractive to men" that's true. But I can't tell you how many men are sluts themselves and degrade women for doing the very same thing. There's a doubt standard.
There's also men, who can't get laid (wish they could live that life) and degrade women as well which I also find very contradicting.
*double standard
I said less desirable, not completely undesirable. You're missing the point. You're more desirable now than you will be in another 10 years. It's a gradual thing. And in terms of the slut things, there's double standards for everything. That's just one thing women will always have to look at.
Its not a double standard, its rooted in biology, men have higher sex drives due to having unlimited sperm and being more expendable, women having the ability to become pregnant has made it important to be careful with who she sleeps with, to make sure he will help her take care of the baby if she gets pregnant. So because of this its way easier for women to get laid than it is for men, and thats why men who sleep with many women are impressive but women who sleep with many men are easy and usually not relationship material.
Mmmm... I doubt you like me. I don't fit any of these categories. Am I in my own league or is there something else? Like megolamaniac pricks 😂
Well there is one category called ProsituteWorshipperRegularWomenHatingOfABeast :)
Never hated regular women, just never had access to them;) every one of my posts have nothing to do with hating on anybody (except religion...)
I hope you wrote this stuff from the kitchen. Coz I wouldn't wanna see you outside it.
Girl makes post insisting that men should buy her shit, all the ladies pile in and applaud her.
Boy wonders how that's equal? All the ladies pile in and mock his masculinity.
A woman talking about insecurity lmao. I dare you to not wear makeup for a month. Only then will i respect an ounce of what you have to say
I just did a take about not wearing make up: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30969-no-make-up-that-s-okay .
It's great that you assume all women do.
I dont buy it.
You don't need to.
Ever thought that maybe this attitude is what causes some guys to act like this?
Awesome! My buddy asked if I want to grab some wings after work on Monday, now I can leave my wallet at home!!! Other than that I can see what you're saying.
It's about having some class, and I think there is a huge gap between the generations in understanding what being a "man" in the traditional sense really means.
1. Why can't we fucking pay for what we ordered? Why do we have to pay for the whole meal?
2. I'm not gonna bless someone because their immune system decides to spit out snot.
Women are MORE desirable after 23 in my opinion. And even 23 is a low digit. More like 28 or 29.
Guess I don't qualify as a GaG guy then. :P
Yeah... Guess my bitterness isn't from the shit women have done to me but it's my lack of success with women.
But hey, women can't do wrong can they? There can't be repercussions for their actions as their actions hold no weight unless they're positive because women don't intentionally hurt their partners on a somewhat regular basis (statistically verified as either doing so, willing to do so, or having a plan for when [not if] when they do so).
@Gommers Okay, well... remember bitterness is kinda like an insidious disease. Don't let it eat you alive. :)
Eh, I keep myself distracted. Play guitar 3-4 hours a day and working on getting a business setup. Eventually something will fall into my lap but I need more free time and the ability to be happy and not feel like my job could be taken away at any second.
@Gommers Well, yeah, that would help. I think one thing a lot of women don't quite get is that a lot of guys need to feel stable in OTHER aspects of their lives, before they can really give themselves to a relationship. That's the way it is with me, anyway.
But there are lots of unbelievably supportive women out there, too, and sometimes they're the catalysts for a guy's life switching around. :) Me, though, I need to take care of sh** myself, feel like I'm worth something, feel like I've got something to offer, before I go for the love.
Fuck dude, yeah, it's all fucking retarded right now with the way western civilization is treating the workers. In the big lebowski Jeff Lebowski says "The bums lost sir, get a job!"
I'm pretty sure in the end it's going to be us bums that end up winning; peace and comfort will be our reward. I'm no man's cog to burn up.
But that's a good thing! xD
I simply dont ask girls that expect me to pay for all the expenses out on a date.
nope nope nope... EQUALITY NOW... i'm not going back to the old days. This is what women wanted... no man is going backwards now. Sucks doesn't it girls? Well tough luck
It's funny that you assume someone thinks they are unequal because they expect you to pay for a date, all because you asked them out.
This has nothing to do with equality... it has to do with simple manners and thoughtfulness as a human-being.
Those that sum up a man paying for their date and you viewing them as unequal, are those who think pretty much EVERYTHING a man does is an injustice towards women (example----pulling their chair out for them to sit, or holding a door open for them).
There's true feminism then there's ridiculous arguments.
this is why i'm staying away from women. I got my career and all the stuff i need for a happy life. I'm so done with women. I just want women to get away from me. Like leave me alone
If you're on your phone the entire date, or clearly don't want to be there, you can pay for your own meal. No point in impressing a girl that I don't plan on dating
I hope one of them men are me
that are refreshing to see that is
Yes, you are definitely a breath of fresh air. I remember how first interaction.
*I remember our first interaction.
well I'm glad that I am
Right, so I have to pay your bills to be a "decent person".
And what "common courtesy" and "kindness" you are going to show ME then?
Or does this only apply in your case, mrs cherished snowflake?
Pay my bills?
What are you talking about? You somehow think someones ten dollar meal is the same as a 300 dollar bill or 1,000 dollars they may pay for rent? Pathetic!
That doesn't answer my question.
What courtesy are you going to show me so I know you are a decent person?
How about you offer to pay my bill then, to show me some courtesy?
Or is it just you thinking "courtesy" is things people have to do for YOU?
Whoever asks out , should pay.
The guy is usually the initiator so he should in that case.
When the guy becomes my boyfriend there's many times I treat him or cover my own bill.
If a guys huge concern is money I'd say his priorities aren't right. He also should take the girl on a affordable place if he's so concerned about the money.
Well you know what they say, if she's not in the kitchen, she's on vacation!
Good Job on generalising a whole community of people, makes you great
Yeah just totally fly by the fact that the article title stated that I am speaking about "Some GAG Men".
Also ignore that towards the end, I mention there's great men on this site and not all are like that.
READ before speaking.
You're right sorry I don't know why I jumped the gun I misread the title and went craze I apologise for being rash after you've seen this I wil remove my original comment, again sorry
It's okay. Generalizations irritate me too. I try my best to stay away from them.
*patiently waits for the Take for women*
You can write it instead of waiting :)
I could, but I like how you write and feel it would be better if you did so.
Thanks for the compliment. I'll do a future mytake about women on GAG. If you have any observations or examples of how they act that you want me to put in just pm me.
Oh, cool. :)