Listen. The most successful women I know are single. And don't want men. The women I knew that need men have little to no education. The most successful men I know can't keep women off of them. So I think it balances out. Become successful (read successful. Not rich) and you'll need to build a fence to keep women away lol
This Take was not written because I'm sad about not having a girlfriend. It was written because the entire idea of relationships is losing it's appeal and the idea of women as romantic partners seems too risky too.
If what you say is true and women with money don't want men while women without desperately want rich ones, then, in my opinion, that makes women look worse than most of what I wrote.
So what about a genius-IQ computer programmer who dabbles in psychology and linguistics for her hobbies, and needs a man for his companionship and the void he fills in her life?
The most successful women being single and not wanting men has to do with them wanting to foster a relationship with their career, and get their love, support, and admiration from friends, family, and the many who look up to them. They avoid it because having kids means they'll have to be responsible for them, letting their career die.
These aren't the dark ages though. A woman can be intelligent and productive, and have a husband and kids. She can be a genius and still need a man for reasons well beyond his wallet. That's an incredibly shallow perspective to think only uneducated bimbos need men.
Interestingly , Norah Vincent actually ended up sticking up for us guys in a big way & stated that guys get bashed a lot by " society " & have many crosses to bear , she also stated " I feel privileged to have been born female " , also the experience took it's toll on her mentally & she booked herself into mental health treatment for severe depression !!
Yeah everyone's seen that now - though she always had an opt out clause when she wanted it and she didn't have to endure having your emotional 'guts' ripped out as a child/teenager part. It was about as far from actually understanding a man as a woman could get and she still felt like shit after it, but you'll never hear a woman admit that.
BelfastBoy not everybody has seen this video yet. I wish EVERY WOMAN on GAG (ESPECIALLY the feminists) took 10 minutes to watch this. I wish every progressive sociology course in college put this on for their students. It's also funny because Norah calls herself a "conservative lesbian". I never thought there was such a thing... but this proves it's very possible.
It seems like everyone is yelling "im more oppressed than you!" Nuh uh! Is this the oppression Olympics? There are all kinds of people out there that like all sorts of different stuff. Maybe find a girl that doesn't act this way?
Lets be fair , there are also huge numbers of women that really hate & detest men with real venom... the amount of radical feminazis that want to kill all male humans is shocking !! I know pissed of guys bash women out of frustration & that's pretty sad , but not to this extent !!
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Unfortunately this is nothing new. You gotta play by the rules of the game if you want to win, and the rules can change. Some people don't like it, some people do. Either way you have to adapt if you want to get anywhere with someone. The bitterness and resentfulness comes from not wanting to/being unable to adapt to the rules.
I say this as one of those people who is failing at the game.
I am bitter and resentful. More because alcohol keeps rising, but also because I was always the reasons for my failed relationships and didn't see it back in the day. I was a nice guy and some real hotties went for me, I just didn't know what to do and my mind collapsed. So I always lost them. So I hate myself, nobody else. I actually love anyone who is cool, men, women and those beautiful angels that are alcohol producers.
Well yeah I think you've been able to sum up all the worst case senarios and outcomes of all these things. While I think you're right on many key points, and I think it's good to shine light on this subject matter for why modern men may veer away from women because of mixed expectations brought on by feminism, law, social media, and double standards. I'd say this take is too hyperbolic regarding catastrophic outcomes of courtship and marriage.
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I know what you mean; I can be a glass half empty kind of guy.
I was hoping for more women to comment so I could discuss it with them and I'm trying to be open minded but...
You def hit the good and bad as far as relationships go. Nothing is perfect. I can't really say too much though because I have a bit of a feminist opinion on everything (yes real feminism not that oh baby me crap)
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Chivalry is always so strange because you have to guess"should i be chivalrous or should i be equalist" It bugs me because it's just like, if i was actually being chivalrous i would be running you through with a sword in a duel but clearly this is the wrong choice.
this is something i blame my parents for but since i'm a guy, and especially after a certain age, we are not supposed to blame anyone else for what happend or how we are in our lives, it seems for us guys, we are dealt with the card of responsibility for everything, as in more often than not, it's a mans fault, not a womans fault, if something is going wrong in the persons life, it's always a mans fault never a womans, i wish i was psychologically drilled into my brain that Life is NOT Fair, although i've known that for a while, i feel it was not drilled deeply enough in me, although i know our past does not dictate our future, it only does if we let it, i've been consumed by depressed feelings of regret for a while now in which it has made me unmotivated because i feel too damn behind compared to most other people around my age.
Well let's see not giving a chance to someone that doesn't fit in a checklist or wishlist that some women have. Seriously do all women think men are creeps by approaching them, or intiating contact? I don't know you and you don't know me, it's common courtesy and human nature to pursue an interest, you should deny. You're not dead lol
I have seen just as many of the opposite things happen to women, dude, so don't talk about "see the problem". There are women who have guys who can pay child support NOT paying child support because the courts ruled in favor for the guys.
Pretty much nailed it, I've never had a relationship because women have never really shown any inclination twords me, however these points are all still spot on, solid post
I feel like these are not legitimate concerns. Maybe you shouldn't be so afraid, these are all fears of possible conclusions. I mean, why worry so much about what could happen vs what is actually happening?
Everybody here who has a dick or a half dick dont worry. WE ARE MEN. 1. Dont fall in love 2. Cheat 3. Fuck fuck fuck until ur dick chops END OF THE STORY. thats the way to live a happy life nowadays and remember WE ARE FUCKING , so as a wise man said "FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY"
Ill tell you exactly why, women are more picky than men, they require more of a man to be attracted to him, a man has to do while a women just has to be in the dating world.
Just read some of the female questions and answers on here if you don't understand why guys are bitter. I mean there are some sleazy guys too but man some of these women belong on Jerry Springer.
Ya, I'm super shy, I can only get up the nerve to talk to women every once in a while and then its usually awkward anyways. And then I'm always wondering if I am a creep. Seriously huge f'in headache.
Some have bad social skills. But for those that don't, either the girls don't truly know or understand what confidence is or guys have taken to understand girls to be very difficult to deal with, which I believe is true 85% of the time.
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Listen. The most successful women I know are single. And don't want men. The women I knew that need men have little to no education. The most successful men I know can't keep women off of them. So I think it balances out. Become successful (read successful. Not rich) and you'll need to build a fence to keep women away lol
In other words they are gold diggers.
This Take was not written because I'm sad about not having a girlfriend. It was written because the entire idea of relationships is losing it's appeal and the idea of women as romantic partners seems too risky too.
If what you say is true and women with money don't want men while women without desperately want rich ones, then, in my opinion, that makes women look worse than most of what I wrote.
People who dont neex other people are narcissistic, antisocial, and have delusions of granduer. They are not "independant" or sucsessful.
Feels like you are saying to me that I am an awful person for being female. Thanks a lot :( :'(
@genuinelysensitive there are exceptions to that. But I respect that you feel that way lol
So what about a genius-IQ computer programmer who dabbles in psychology and linguistics for her hobbies, and needs a man for his companionship and the void he fills in her life?
The most successful women being single and not wanting men has to do with them wanting to foster a relationship with their career, and get their love, support, and admiration from friends, family, and the many who look up to them. They avoid it because having kids means they'll have to be responsible for them, letting their career die.
These aren't the dark ages though. A woman can be intelligent and productive, and have a husband and kids. She can be a genius and still need a man for reasons well beyond his wallet. That's an incredibly shallow perspective to think only uneducated bimbos need men.
I said from the people I know lol
This lady, who lived as a man to see what it was like and wrote a book about it, has some good insight into the subject.
https://youtu.be/Ip7kP_dd6LU?t=9m17sThe part about dating starts at 9:17 ish, linked it like that but not sure if it's working properly.
Interestingly , Norah Vincent actually ended up sticking up for us guys in a big way & stated that guys get bashed a lot by " society " & have many crosses to bear , she also stated " I feel privileged to have been born female " , also the experience took it's toll on her mentally & she booked herself into mental health treatment for severe depression !!
i take it you saw the take i did on this, haha
Yeah everyone's seen that now - though she always had an opt out clause when she wanted it and she didn't have to endure having your emotional 'guts' ripped out as a child/teenager part. It was about as far from actually understanding a man as a woman could get and she still felt like shit after it, but you'll never hear a woman admit that.
BelfastBoy not everybody has seen this video yet. I wish EVERY WOMAN on GAG (ESPECIALLY the feminists) took 10 minutes to watch this. I wish every progressive sociology course in college put this on for their students. It's also funny because Norah calls herself a "conservative lesbian". I never thought there was such a thing... but this proves it's very possible.
Damn great video
It seems like everyone is yelling "im more oppressed than you!" Nuh uh!
Is this the oppression Olympics?
There are all kinds of people out there that like all sorts of different stuff.
Maybe find a girl that doesn't act this way?
we do live in a society of victims.
"Maybe find a girl that doesn't act this way?" People that act badly are rarely open about it.
Besides, that's easier said than done.
Lets be fair , there are also huge numbers of women that really hate & detest men with real venom... the amount of radical feminazis that want to kill all male humans is shocking !! I know pissed of guys bash women out of frustration & that's pretty sad , but not to this extent !!
Unfortunately this is nothing new. You gotta play by the rules of the game if you want to win, and the rules can change. Some people don't like it, some people do. Either way you have to adapt if you want to get anywhere with someone. The bitterness and resentfulness comes from not wanting to/being unable to adapt to the rules.
I say this as one of those people who is failing at the game.
I am bitter and resentful. More because alcohol keeps rising, but also because I was always the reasons for my failed relationships and didn't see it back in the day. I was a nice guy and some real hotties went for me, I just didn't know what to do and my mind collapsed. So I always lost them. So I hate myself, nobody else. I actually love anyone who is cool, men, women and those beautiful angels that are alcohol producers.
Well yeah I think you've been able to sum up all the worst case senarios and outcomes of all these things. While I think you're right on many key points, and I think it's good to shine light on this subject matter for why modern men may veer away from women because of mixed expectations brought on by feminism, law, social media, and double standards. I'd say this take is too hyperbolic regarding catastrophic outcomes of courtship and marriage.
I know what you mean; I can be a glass half empty kind of guy.
I was hoping for more women to comment so I could discuss it with them and I'm trying to be open minded but...
You def hit the good and bad as far as relationships go. Nothing is perfect. I can't really say too much though because I have a bit of a feminist opinion on everything (yes real feminism not that oh baby me crap)
Chivalry is always so strange because you have to guess"should i be chivalrous or should i be equalist"
It bugs me because it's just like, if i was actually being chivalrous i would be running you through with a sword in a duel but clearly this is the wrong choice.
bitches be complainin' when not being treated with chivalry
bitched be complainin' when i get mah mace
this is something i blame my parents for but since i'm a guy, and especially after a certain age, we are not supposed to blame anyone else for what happend or how we are in our lives, it seems for us guys, we are dealt with the card of responsibility for everything, as in more often than not, it's a mans fault, not a womans fault, if something is going wrong in the persons life, it's always a mans fault never a womans, i wish i was psychologically drilled into my brain that Life is NOT Fair, although i've known that for a while, i feel it was not drilled deeply enough in me, although i know our past does not dictate our future, it only does if we let it, i've been consumed by depressed feelings of regret for a while now in which it has made me unmotivated because i feel too damn behind compared to most other people around my age.
Well let's see not giving a chance to someone that doesn't fit in a checklist or wishlist that some women have. Seriously do all women think men are creeps by approaching them, or intiating contact? I don't know you and you don't know me, it's common courtesy and human nature to pursue an interest, you should deny. You're not dead lol
Your thought process is, "All the things that could go wrong". What about thinking, "All the things that could go right"
or be realistic and say "som things will go wrong along the path."
now, re-read the take with that attitude.
See the problem?
The guys that turn away from women, as far as I can see, aren't very optimistic when it comes to relationships.
I have seen just as many of the opposite things happen to women, dude, so don't talk about "see the problem". There are women who have guys who can pay child support NOT paying child support because the courts ruled in favor for the guys.
Pretty much nailed it, I've never had a relationship because women have never really shown any inclination twords me, however these points are all still spot on, solid post
I feel like these are not legitimate concerns. Maybe you shouldn't be so afraid, these are all fears of possible conclusions. I mean, why worry so much about what could happen vs what is actually happening?
Divorce court is not imaginary, it is 100% real and 100% life destroying bullshit.
Right, okay. That is a possible conclusion to a marriage, does that mean you should be bitter towards women on the internet? No.
Everybody here who has a dick or a half dick dont worry. WE ARE MEN.
1. Dont fall in love
2. Cheat
3. Fuck fuck fuck until ur dick chops
END OF THE STORY. thats the way to live a happy life nowadays and remember WE ARE FUCKING , so as a wise man said "FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY"
Wtf, does no one believe in love, commitment and marriage anymore? What gives...
Cool story bro!
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Women are WAY pickier online than they are in person, so I dont take the internet dating thing to heart at all. ✌
Really? I've heard it's the opposite if anything.
I find it to be the same.
Ill tell you exactly why, women are more picky than men, they require more of a man to be attracted to him, a man has to do while a women just has to be in the dating world.
Just read some of the female questions and answers on here if you don't understand why guys are bitter. I mean there are some sleazy guys too but man some of these women belong on Jerry Springer.
Ya, I'm super shy, I can only get up the nerve to talk to women every once in a while and then its usually awkward anyways. And then I'm always wondering if I am a creep. Seriously huge f'in headache.
Some have bad social skills. But for those that don't, either the girls don't truly know or understand what confidence is or guys have taken to understand girls to be very difficult to deal with, which I believe is true 85% of the time.