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7 Things I Wish Girls Knew About Masculine Men (Page 2)
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The last two points is the most important ones for sure. It's a fucking pain dealing with girls who don't understand that.
A little simplistic, but true. The adventure part is... meh. It doesn't have to be high paced like you keep saying. The adventure is finding the rght woman and sharing my adventure with her.
Everyone has their own idea of what the adventure is. You may just like a crazy fun adventure with a woman :)
Respect and freedom are extremely important for me as well. Does this mean I am a masculine woman?
Nope!
This seemed very broad and general. Like a deeper spectrum wasn't considered.
This was supposed to be broad. I didn't need to go into the details. This is about a specific type of guy too. The "man's man," alpha-male, masculine stereotype. The above is true though. I've studied under relationship coaches and what I wrote was a summary of what they teach.
i don't know if YOU really understand masculine men. this sounds super pedestrian. like someone who's never used a computer trying to explain hacking
Lol ohhhhhhhhhhh trust me... I do. I have studied under male relationship coaches. This is a BASIC outline, brah. Chill.
its pretty clear she does , and very well done
Relationship coaches are wannabes, nobody fucking coaches you in being a man
Look I spent a good portion of my life in prison and fighting for my life to survive, the rest of it was spent achieving on passion and talent alone where I had no help, no support network, no woman, no money, you learn it by living it, not by being coached. Like I said, you sound pedestrian. Like you watched a movie on it, directed by someone who's only ever read a book on it. You think you know what you're talking about but you couldn't possibly empathize. THIS is a basic outline youtube. com/watch? v=8nSSIBQcMGA
Yours is no more informed than telling someone to "hack into the mainframe"
youtube. com/watch? t=1&v=Hcywf9mwF5U
You're reading waaaaayyyyyyyyy too much into things bro, lighten up. This was supposed to be a fun outline (and the coaches are men themselves brah). Just cool it and don't take things so seriously.
Like I said. It's as much of a fun outline as telling someone to "hack into the mainframe" is
You obviously don't understand what "basic" and "general outline" is. I'm not saying this is what makes a man a man, I'm saying these are basic things an alpha man wants.
And I'm saying you know about as much of "what an Alpha man wants", as you would someone who thinks "hacking into the mainframe" is what I hacker does
What about this metaphor is not registering for you?
you don't know me and have no idea the things I know, so how about keeping your false judgements of me to yourself.
Oh I'm sorry. I apologize for interrupting. Go back to living your life as a man-- sorry, an **Alpha** man
*shake my head* so rude
I think you're mistaking rude for not putting up with your shit
That's just your rude oppinon. Didn't your parents ever tell you that if you have nothing kind to say to shut your damn mouth?
See this is how I know you never interacted with an "Alpha" man before, you never even interacted with a man who can maintain his own opinions without cravenly conceding to yours. The very word itself is offensive, have you never heard that Bob Dylan song " how many roads must a man walk down", it's clear you don't even get it, there's no Alpha, there's no Beta, there's men who have courage, men with unwavering character, with distinction and integrity, and unshakable belief, the man who built his house on a bed of rock instead of a bed of sand, that's the kind of man you're thinking of, and it's not a man who would ever choose to associate with you
Again, that's sp not true it's hilarious hahahaha. You don't know me, and if you did, you would never be saying any of this lol
You're a woman telling a man, what it's like to be a man. Again, you're like someone who's never touched a computer in their life trying to tell a hacker that you know better than them how to hack a computer
The answer is no you don't know me or MY life and I'm not the running writing articles claim to know everything about what it's like to be a REAL woman and arguing with women when they disagree
That was obviously not the title of my take. It is for girls who don't know the bare basics. I'm telling you other MEN have taught me these things.
Then obviously something was lost in translation
That or they were just telling you what you want to hear, which is probably the case because men do that for pussy
But certainly not the kind of "Alpha" man you were thinking of
Or perhaps... perhaps... you actually DON'T speak for all men.
Because he honestly doesn't give a crap enough about your pussy to blow smoke up your ass
I speak better for all man then you ever will, and if you look at the rest of your answers you'll see it's the truth.
The point is I'm giving them inside perspective right now and you're ignoring it because is not what you want to hear, but what you have repeated is exactly what you want to hear, which is probably why they told it to you
Conspiracy theorist.
Hmmm, and now you call me a bitch. What a nice guy, I'm sure you get all the ladies lol
yeah, its called a pretty accurate observation
What about the masculine men who want men as their source of beauty?
This is what I wish GIRLS knew about masculine men. Not what guys knew about masculine gay men.
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filler filler filler :)
You must be really wrong at reading people...
I was thinking the same thing. If only computer screens had facial expressions and tone.
Not half bad. Though we're not as emotional as women.
Most of these apply to ALL men, not just masculine men.
And out of curiosity, what is exactly your definition of a "masculine man"?
No character trait applies to ALL of anyone
I said "masculine" because some men these days are super feminine and would rather their clothes me on point than what I mentioned above.
Yeah, guess manly men don't have many good qualities, at least in my book.
Indeed most of them are big on the respect thing and feel they have to prove themselves physically because they lack in other aspects. Oh well, some other slipper will fit.
I beg to differ. Manly men are the one with great qualities!
To each their own.
The question is, how does one become a "high value" man if you:
1.) were not talented or born with it,
2.) did not become one in your youth and are now an adult without the benefit of time,
3.) without having a cocky douchebag personality?
Value yourself, be a man of character, have a good work-ethic, and treat others with kindness.
Thanks. This is something I have struggled with all my life. I have never been muscular (though not fat either), popular, talented, and did not come from money. Growing up I was told I had above-average intelligence, but I wasn't a genius. I have had some dreams, but was afraid to pursue them out of worrying that I'll never get good at them because of a lack of genetics or natural talent. I've never felt gifted at all. I figured if I was gifted, then things would come to me easily. But nothing ever did. I've never felt powerful in my life. And as you can guess, my dating life has been completely unsuccessful.
I want to change the path I'm on, but not sure what I can do about it.
It's all your mindset. Realize your value doesn't come from how you look or what you do. And also realize you can do anything you set your mind to. Join a gym and workout, learn a new skill, work at things. It may come easier for some, but they still have to work at it.
#3 is a touchy thing dude, and what I mean by that is it's very hard to determine what is cocky and what isn't.
Someone who is confident in his abilities will seem like a cocky douchebag to an insecure person, so it's really heavily based on perspective. Confidence and being a prick are two very different things, and so is valuing yourself and mistreating others. Telling someone 'no' and refusing to go down to the store to pick up tampons (for example) is a lot different than putting someone down and refusing to get them medicine when they're sick.
Also, all you got to do to gain confidence is do things. Seriously, that's it; Some men are born low inhibition so it comes easier to them, but really all you need to do is get good at your own interests, and you'll automatically apply the principles to everything in life. Confidence can be attained 'easily' (in that you can change your attitude).
Masculinity has many faces.
1.) Are you born male? Yes? Then, you are. Who told you aren't?
2.) It's never too late. Some don't come into their prime until later in life.
3.) Who cares? They do not eat for you, or pay your bills. Hell, they're not even fucking you. Their opinion means nothing.
Hope that helps.
@GreatnessPersonified yeah, it helps. I guess I care about the 3rd part, because I want to be successful without becoming cocky, without becoming a douche. I'm a nicer, more sensitive, thinking person. I'm not loud, I'm not macho, and I don't brag or make a big show of myself. In addition to just not liking cocky people, I've always figured, you never know when problems will strike, even when it seems like you've got it made - so being cocky never made sense to me, when everything could be taken away tomorrow.
Also, it seems like more douches are successful than non-douches, not because of their attitude, but because they are aggressive, and usually aggressive and douche go hand in hand. They also seem to have a way of getting lots of dumb luck (easy but well-paying jobs, very attractive, smart, and cool girls falling out of the sky into their lap, etc).
So I want to be successful but I don't want to become that which I despise. I don't want to join them, I want to just beat them.
I love this take :)
Thanks for giving me a better understanding of masculine men.
I really enjoyed this mytake. Not because it was particulary well written while lacking an introduction, but because you got quite a few people seriously butthurt.
Not every man wants a beautiful woman. Some want a handsome man
This is what I wish GIRLS knew about masculine men. Not what guys knew about masculine gay men.
Looks like you misunderstood me. You said every man wants a beautiful woman. Chill.
don't tell me to chill lol
CHILL.
Go on, try to make me mad -,-
im a feminine guy and some of these apply to feminine guys too. some.
So you're a woman?
no im a feminine guy... its like how a boyish girl is called a tomboy @stallion87
So your 3/4 woman?
@Stallion87 @PromiseIllBeNice
You guys need to come to terms with your latent homosexuality. Handling it the way you do is not healthy.
@MaskedSanity haha none of the gay guys I've met would use girl as an insult. I think they're just very very lost people. :p
im not gay. I am just feminine. No it doesn't mean I like dolls and that stuff it just means that I could care less for some things that guys do and would rather be hanging with girls
thats not being feminine thats just having different interests, i dont like a lot of things most guys like either, but i consider myself to be far more of a man than most
why is a woman writing a thread about what they think they know about men?
SMH
I've studied this under male relationship coaches brah
How many guys have to tell this to you before you believe us
@aliencreature Guys who actually are smart and aren't assholes.
See, when you define "smart" as thinking like you, and "assholes" as people who disagree with you, you are destined never to meet the former and always to meet the latter
@aliencreature That was YOUR definition... not mine
by chance, have you ever had your iq tested?
@aliencreature Yes and it was 145. Don't you DARE start insulting my intellegence. I received two bachlors degrees in 3 years with a 3.5 GPA. So... no... again your assesment of me is false.
suuuuuuure it was
you know if you're going to lie at least lie within reason
whats your major
@aliencreature That was no lie. Journalism and History
right. name the axis powers
who created the first domestic violence shelter
who reigned during the year of the 5 emperors
what major event led to hitlers rise to power
why did the han dynasty collapse?
name the 5 major media organizations
@aliencreature My area of history wasn't modern History, it was Ancient Histpory. think Ancient Rome and Greece.
*History
perfect i've been studying both
name the 3 orders
what mystery cult was prevalent among slaves around 100AD?
@aliencreature There are eight orders, not three
what gnostic sect believed the demiurge was a blundering idiot?
what sect believed jeshua was a false prophet who distorted the teachings of john the baptist
there are 3. corinthian, doric and ionic
the romans believed the corinthian order was the highest order even though it was rarely used by the greeks, thats why its on the highest rung of the collosseum above ionic and doric
@aliencreature No there are three main ones, but you forgot the sub-designs. Dude... do you think I actually have this stuff memorized at
college you memorize it for the tests, but only remember what you find intersting.
*interesting
i do
I actually work in marketing, which has very little to do what I went for. I have also been out of college for a few years now.
look man all of this stuff is just stuff i'm spitballing off the top of my head, its all relevant to me
you'd think with a 145 iq you'd be able to keep up with someone who didn't even major in it
great who runs PR for tucker max? and name a major marketing stunt he pulled
Not to me. What does "CAESAR NON SUPRA GRAMMATICOS" mean? Who was the third emperor of Ancient Rome? What is the story of Alexander the Great and his horse? Who was the Emperor of Babylon during the time of the Jewish exile?
That's me spit-balling.
which ad company is responsible for doing the first old spice campaign with tom kuntz
@aliencreature I didn't go to college for marketing. I only do it as a job bro.
well given most of my latin comes from french and italian and what i've gleamed from history, i'd have to say caesar is not the greatest/highest ______--authority maybe? i know greatest = optimus because optimus princeps was what trajan was called so i may be off base at that
@aliencreature That wasn't written in correct English
as far as the third, do you mean rome as a dictatorship or a republic, because there were many different forms of government, are we talking the etruscans, the 3rd after romulus and remus or the third after julius?
i'm typing with a broken keyboard, give me a break. at least i bothered to take up your challenges
you get the point though right? you say i dont know shit about what you do, but clearly i do, i know a whole lot about it (the answer to my previous challenges are valentinians, ryan holiday, weiden+kennedy by the way, but how dare you call yourself a marketing major if you dont at least know saatchi and saatchi) you say my assessment of you is false but i remember more shit about your chosen fields of study than you do, i'm guessing you're still in school, you lied about your iq and you're trying to keep up but a rank amatuer keeps besting you at what you do, so my point is, how the fuck are you going to tell me better about what its like to be me with some offhand comments you "studied" from your male friends when you can't even play trivia with what you study for real?
@aliencreature My major was Journalism.. NOT marketing. Get your facts straight, Bravo, you remember a lot of useless crap. I graduated in Spring 2014. And what I studied wasn't from male friends. I'll link you up.
Like I said, it's all relevant. And my point is if you work in marketing as you should know who the players are, it doesn't matter what you studied. I know them from proximity, because as a designer I have to work with ad companies on occasion and it helps not to look like a total idiot, which ironically is exactly what you look like
Here are some of the things I have studied to write this.
https://www.deida.info/
everythinggirlyandpink.files.wordpress.com/.../why-men-love-bitches.pdf
https://theartofcharm.com/?s=masculinity
I'm guessing by "marketing" you mean promoting things with your tits on Facebook because very few women who say they work in marketing actually know anything about it, and you seem to think that knowing the biggest marketing firms in the world is "useless information" to someone who--I don't know--does that for a fucking living? But that's not my point here, my point isn't to show you everything I know, it's to show you that I know everything you claim to know, more fluently then you claim to know it, and that ultimately your supposed understanding of men takes a backseat to the knowledge that I've already bested you at
partially just to prove how full of shit you are with the 145 iq thing, but also partially because you're too dumb to realize that having a penis better qualifies me to speak about what its like to be a man than just "knowing some dudes who said some things", so i had to go off on this whole irrelevent tangent to prove that if you're overestimating your intelligence on the bigger issues pertinent your life maybe you shouldn't be telling me how to feel about the little issues pertinent to mine and you especially shouldn't be telling other women how to feel about it
sort yourself out before you go telling other women how to sort men out
@aliencreature You obviiously didn't look at my links dumbass and no I don't market my body for marketing. How ibsulting and sexist. Again, you don't know me or you would never be saying these things.
And things are misspelled and I realize it and don't care.
look you're as good as your words and your words are a load of crap
@aliencreature Says the asshole who doesn't like to backup his shit
wooooowww i just checked out your links and i have to say, god what a bunch of pandering bullcrap
@aliencreature yeah come back when you make hundreds of thousands of dollars and change people's lives.
i've backed up my shit plenty. sure i was a little off on the "Caesar is not superior to the grammarians" translation but sue me, i think i did alright for someone who never studied latin
@aliencreature No, you really didn't. I studied Latin two years. I had a classical education in high school and graduated at age 17.
how are you this full of yourself when you have absolutely zero practical knowledge? what do you even do at your marketing firm? cause i KNOW you're not in customer service, there's no way someone like you can ever close a deal or negotiate your way out of anything
i graduated at 17 too, you wanna flex nuts or you wanna nut up?
@aliencreature I never talk this way to anyone. You just hit a very very bad nerve. I don't like you at all, probably the first person I've talked to whom I didn't like.
i'm the first person thats ever challenged you to actually think, thats why you dont like me. i hope it dawns on you just how little practical knowledge you've actually gained
@aliencreature No, you're not. I've been in plenty of debates in college. Most of my friends are men and we always challenge each other. The difference between them and you is you are disrespectful, they disagree with kindness,
you hate me cause i made you feel like that prick in good will hunting who recited some trite bullshit and got his ass handed to him, only you dont have the common douchebaggery to plagiarize textbooks so you plagiarize pandering self help books called "why men love bitches"
@aliencreature Sorry... again.. don't know me. How do you like THEM apples?
i dont disagree with kindness because what is that worth? you told me you know what its like to live in my shoes better than me because you read it in a book. i'm not going to be kind to someone like that. i'm going to reem her the fuck out
@aliencreature I never freaking said those words! *facepalm*
I said other men teach this stuff. I'm not speaking my own words, but their's paraphrased.
then why the fuck do you defend it tooth and nail like its your firstborn child?
did you ever ask yourself what their motivation is? you never thought that maybe dudes like that write those books to pander to the whims of those bitchy girls who want to reaffirm to themselves that its ok to be bitches because "hey, thats what men like"? or that maybe this idea of "men want a challenge" you've got inside your head is just the polar negative space surrounding the unconscious realization that you yourself are a challenging person to even tolerate and that maybe just maybe, men HAVE to want a challenge to ever want to put up with you, and the reason you're clinging so hard to this belief is because you're afraid if men DONT want a challenge that means ultimately you will never be loved?
but hey, like you said, i dont know you. i just know the kinds of girls who read those books and why they need to, and i know you're the kind of girl that needs to.
wow that was like a cheap article from cosmopolitan... .
It's supposed to be short and broad brah
And we like to rescue princesses from a castle guarded by a giant turtle.
Masculine guy: Eat, sleep, fuck.
That's all you had to say lmao.
Most of this is BS.
Men do not like the chase. Women like being chased.
hmmmmm, you are wrong.
@homper87 why do you think girls pretty much never make the first move? And why do you think so many men are turning away from approaching women entirely? They're tired of being stringed along.
Yes, because women are playing games.
Wow, spot on, very spot on, well done, mate